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The Big Board / Re: Ways Price is Right could handle their time crunch
« Last post by MikeK on June 16, 2025, 12:19:20 PM »
I think the easiest way to save time is one showcase with both players locking in secret bids.  That would save four or five minutes, at least.  Editing out/down the hemming and hawing while listening to 180 different bids from 180 audience members saves time too.  Within $250 doesn't win both showcases, obviously, so the bonus could be $25,000, a car, or some combination of cash and transport.
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The Big Board / Re: Ways Price is Right could handle their time crunch
« Last post by Chelsea Thrasher on June 16, 2025, 07:57:01 AM »
I will expand on this point and say that the 10am feed is only really used in the Eastern time zone and not much of anywhere else in the country... who tend to use the afternoon feed. It's not practical to attempt such a radical thing as a 45/75 split.

Not entirely true. Seattle uses the before-Price slot to great effect - the two hour block was consistently one of their most viewed time periods when I was there (honestly, seeing the numbers I'm surprised more affiliates don't try it).

Also, the actual content time number for Price is generally anywhere from 37:15 to 38:00 (minor daily variations). Slightly better than the 36 quoted.  There are minor variations between the CBS and streaming versions timing due to the 2x :10 closed captioning ads (and :5 bumps before them) that don't air on streaming/off-net reruns, and due to CBS replacing the real credit roll for a promo and their own network-designed CGI credits, but that's the ballpark. Also worth noting:  That's been the standard since 2009 at this point. Price has produced to the same time for sixteen years. (For what it's worth, primetime episodes are timed out to 42:30 and I fully believe that is a major reason why they're some of my favorite episodes with Drew).

Because of certain complications with the ownership and controlling interest (I've heard that CBS has at least some degree of stake in TPIR?), what I'd do in this situation isn't really feasible, but I enjoy the idea of it far more than taking the butcher's knife mindlessly to the show.

When the contract is up for renewal, and in a world where there's no potential ownership tie, I simply let CBS know "Price in daytime is more popular than most of your primetime shows at this point, which get 21/42. 40 minutes is the floor (but I'm going in aiming for the full 42), or we'll walk the show. ABC, NBC, streaming, you name it. If some of your sponsors want to buy placements and prize sponsorships in the show to recoup costs, we can talk about profit-sharing." Affiliates can keep their same local time, and the network can eat 2:30. Price is one of CBS's best rated shows in any daypart in most markets as well as nationally, time to act like it.  Since the show's among the most popular things CBS airs, it should honestly be able to get slightly more cash for the reduced # of availabilities too. 

And if they call my bluff, I walk.

I'm not changing the show (especially not when the network hasn't cut time since Obama's first year in office), and changing the show to fit just signals that I'm potentially willing to lose more time if they go that route. 22:30 of ads is one of the reason no one under 30 watches non-sports linear TV, and no one having the guts to say "this is idiotic and needs to stop" is one of the reasons we got here. I would literally move the show to Amazon or Hulu if need be (similar to how Wheel and J! are starting down that road), I do not care.
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The Big Board / Re: Ways Price is Right could handle their time crunch
« Last post by NickintheATL on June 15, 2025, 10:13:17 PM »
They could also take fifteen mins off LMAD and given them to TPIR.
Great for markets where the two air back to back in the morning. 

Not so great for markets like mine, where we run "Live" at 10am and take the 3pm feed of LMAD.
I will expand on this point and say that the 10am feed is only really used in the Eastern time zone and not much of anywhere else in the country... who tend to use the afternoon feed. It's not practical to attempt such a radical thing as a 45/75 split.
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The Big Board / Re: Ways Price is Right could handle their time crunch
« Last post by Joe Mello on June 15, 2025, 09:46:56 PM »
The increase of commercial time is partially due to the fact that they aren't getting nearly as much money from promoting groceries, small items and the like.
I don't think it's even that. Wheel and 25WOL look to be under 20 minutes now. Price at 38 (and Price at Night at 43) sounds like it's just the Way Things Are. All carriers want more ad revenue and the way they get that is with more ads. I'm guessing a couple ads are going to be more lucrative than even a 6-grocery game show.

I'm also curious as to what we want to save large chunks of time for. I think after all this time, it's pretty clear that Drew isn't going to full stop the show like Bob did and make someone daytime TV famous. I also don't think Showcase skits are ever going to come back, either.

That being said, two ways to save time are in the Showcase round. They do have two-prize Showcases on occasion and could probably do more of them. Also, despite the lack of skits every Showcase has a theme, even though probably 40% of peak-Barker Era showcases didn't. You can probably save a chunk of time by having more Showcases just be something like "This showcase starts with a trip to fabulous [PLACE]...and you can head to and from the airport in your brand new SUV!..."
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The Big Board / Re: Stupid Topic: Bad New Rules for Old Shows
« Last post by BrandonFG on June 15, 2025, 06:07:38 PM »
You were not a house in a rural area unless you had either the Ray Stevens "best of" or his full length movie Ray Stevens Get Serious!.

/Funny when I was 11.
//Now, not so much.
What's going on?  I was getting Ethel a snow cone.

Since The Streak was brought up, I saw the video on Ray Stevens' YouTube channel.  It did provide a chuckle; however, I notice one of the words has been censored.  The word that got censored was........

mooned
Youtube is weird about censorship. I watched Cheech and Chong’s Up in Smoke (don’t judge me) and they censored nudity…of a Playboy centerfold that was plastered on the bathroom stall. IIRC they also censored the language so I immediately turned it off and went to Prime.
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The Big Board / Re: Stupid Topic: Bad New Rules for Old Shows
« Last post by The Ol' Guy on June 15, 2025, 05:33:19 PM »
Beat The Clock - all stunts must be performed within 3 seconds.

High Rollers - answer questions, toss dice from the top of the Empire State Building to the table below.

You Bet Your Life - the "no wrong answers" quiz

I'm Telling - sisters answer questions to earn cash to bribe little brothers with found diaries.

Family Feud - Irish mobs vs. Italian mobs.
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The Big Board / Re: Stupid Topic: Bad New Rules for Old Shows
« Last post by SRIV94 on June 15, 2025, 05:04:00 PM »
You were not a house in a rural area unless you had either the Ray Stevens "best of" or his full length movie Ray Stevens Get Serious!.

/Funny when I was 11.
//Now, not so much.
What's going on?  I was getting Ethel a snow cone.

I hope you told Ethel not to look.
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The Big Board / Re: Stupid Topic: Bad New Rules for Old Shows
« Last post by rebelwrest on June 15, 2025, 03:35:06 PM »
You were not a house in a rural area unless you had either the Ray Stevens "best of" or his full length movie Ray Stevens Get Serious!.

/Funny when I was 11.
//Now, not so much.
What's going on?  I was getting Ethel a snow cone.

Since The Streak was brought up, I saw the video on Ray Stevens' YouTube channel.  It did provide a chuckle; however, I notice one of the words has been censored.  The word that got censored was........

mooned

Yes, you read that right.  The word that got censored was

mooned

I tried to find why it was so offensive now, but I couldn't find a thing.  So you're telling me that Ray Stevens' audience is so sensitive that the particular word would send them into conniptions........actually seeing his other videos would make you think that.

/HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA they had to censor mooned!
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The Big Board / Re: Ways Price is Right could handle their time crunch
« Last post by TLEberle on June 15, 2025, 02:27:37 PM »
Once upon a midnight dreary, Price is Right had 44 minutes of actual air time and 16 minutes of commercials.
Certain pricing games could be sped up too.  Pocket Change is a prime example of this.  Rather than have the contestant walk over and pick an envelope off the board after each number is filled into the car price, just have them select the 4 envelopes off the board at the start of the game!
You've mentioned this and I think it underlines a fundamental misunderstanding of what a game show or indeed a TV show is about. Pocket Change is timed out to have a certain amount of time allotted to that segment and saving the twenty seconds isn't worth the idea of "you got the number right, your reward is getting to go to the board and playing with the prop.

If Pocket Change can be reduced to a single trip to the board, why not build a lectern station near home base and the contestant plays the games from there? Or heck, let the contestant stay standing at contestants row which the shlubs have to sit down and Drew sidles over to the winner and the models carry out directives for the player by proxy?

The increase of commercial time is partially due to the fact that they aren't getting nearly as much money from promoting groceries, small items and the like.
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The Big Board / Re: Ways Price is Right could handle their time crunch
« Last post by TLEberle on June 15, 2025, 02:18:10 PM »
Better yet, how about a 5-person "Showcase Showdown" with only the winner advancing, and the "Showcase" round done like on the late-1990's UK Bruce's Price is Right, with a randomizer to determine how close the person's bid must be (between $1000 - $5000), without going over, to win?
We aren't Britain? We've had the two player showcase for fifty some years? One in five isn't quite as good as one in four plus the top winner getting a pass which might mean some maneuvering in the later games?
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