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The Big Board / Re: Ways Price is Right could handle their time crunch
« Last post by BillCullen1 on June 15, 2025, 09:28:39 AM »
They could do what was done on Doug Davidson's version. Ditch the IUFBs and just have the players come up on stage when their name is called.
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The Big Board / Ways Price is Right could handle their time crunch
« Last post by wdm1219inpenna on June 15, 2025, 07:01:07 AM »
Once upon a midnight dreary, Price is Right had 44 minutes of actual air time and 16 minutes of commercials.

As of 2025 I believe it is now 36 minutes of Price and 24 minutes of commercials which to me is criminal.  I realize and recognize that commercials are necessary to help finance the budget for the show, most especially since the show no longer receives payment from companies for fee items such as the ones used in grocery item games and small prize games (e.g. Shell Game, Plinko, Cliff Hangers, etc.).

These are some ideas I would implement if I were in charge of the show...and many of these I realize will be criticized and I'm okay with that.

I know one thing the show has already done is at times at least, they will edit out any overbids in contestants' row.  It would be both amusing and frustrating at the same time when that would happen 3 or 4 times in a row.  I recall once where after the third overbid Bob asked the players "Do you even remember what the prize is?" and I don't think any of them did!  So now with the time crunch the show editing out overbids is understandably necessary.

Often I have felt quite badly for the 9th and final contestant who is called to come on down.  They get only 1 chance to bid while others could in theory have had as many as 6 chances to bid.  To speed up the show and to make things fairer, I would say after the first one bid round and first pricing game, have just the remaining 3 players bid on the next item, rather than taking the time to call somebody else down.  This also would save time as it would require one less bid.  After pricing game #2 the remaining 2 players would bid on the next item and play pricing game #3.  The last remaining player in contestants row would become one of 2 "Contestants not appearing on stage".  After the first showcase showdown, have 4 new contestants called down to start the 4th One Bid round, etc.  So instead of 9 contestants per show, you'd still have 8, and all 4 contestants in each half would have 3 chances maximum to win a prize and get up on stage.

Showcase Showdown - I know the big wheel is iconic.  I know this suggestion is nothing short of sacrilegious but to save time on wheel spins, especially those that do not go all the way around, replace it with a Press Your Luck style board with the flashing lights (no repeating patterns so it would be Larsen proof).  Have all 20 numbers up there from one nickel to $1.00.  The players would still get two "spins" maximum to get as close to a dollar as possible.  I realize the suspense of the wheel slowing down especially during a bonus spin can be quite exciting, but it has become a rather time-eating process.  Furthermore, after 18 years of "Would you like to say hi to anybody?", I could do without that too.  It's still the same mechanism to determine who gets to play in the showcase, but just a heck of a lot faster.

Two showcases has always been the norm.  I would recommend for both time saving measures and cost saving measures to have just one showcase instead.  Perhaps make it one showcase with 4 or 5 prizes instead of 2 showcases with 3 or more prizes each.  This would cut back on time needed to announce each showcase.  Bids would be written down in secret by each player (think Final Jeopardy! style), and after the final commercial, both bids would be revealed along with the actual retail price of the showcase.  If both went over, it would be lost.  If both wrote down the same exact bid, it would also be lost.  If the player who comes closest to the actual retail price without going over is within $250 of the ARP, they would win the cash equivalent of the showcase amount, or perhaps a smaller cash prize to save on budget (e.g. $20,000, since pretty much most of the showcases today are at minimum $20K).

Certain pricing games could be sped up too.  Pocket Change is a prime example of this.  Rather than have the contestant walk over and pick an envelope off the board after each number is filled into the car price, just have them select the 4 envelopes off the board at the start of the game!

Ten Chances - Rather than have the player take forever to write down a price, show a list of possible prices for each prize and the player simply must choose which they think is right.  Have 4 choices for the 2 digit prize, 6 for the 3 digit prize and 8 for the automobile.

Three Strikes - First, go back to 1 strike in the bag.  Second, whenever a player draws a number, give them two chances to place the number instead of just one.  The only time the player would not get to do this is if there are only 2 spaces remaining in the car price to be filled in.

One Away - Instead of the "Ladies do I have X numbers right?" spiel, just have the car horn sound right away to indicate how many numbers are right, or have an eggcrate display that lights up much the same way as used in games like Switcheroo and Line 'Em Up.

These are some ideas I have had as far as both time saving and cost saving measures for the show.  I'm curious to hear your feedback about it and other ideas you might have.
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The Big Board / Re: The Luckiest Man in America on DVD?
« Last post by wdm1219inpenna on June 15, 2025, 06:27:29 AM »
Folks, last Friday the 13th (ironically enough), my Mrs. as part of an early Father's Day gift to me rented this movie through youtube.  My son and I both watched it, and while it was an amusing film, there were so many inaccuracies and it left me feeling rather disappointed.  It was like I was having a fever dream.

I will say the casting of all 3 contestants was VERY well done.  The actor portraying Peter Tomarken was meh and rather phony sounding to me.  The voice of Rod Roddy sounded nothing at all like Rod.  I realize movie creators take on some artistically based licenses but this movie was just way out.

And while we have spent $6.99 in far worse ways in our life, we have also spent $6.99 in far better ways too.  I felt like this movie was a real dud as they got so many things wrong as far as what actually happened.  Too many scenes where the viewer was expected to suspend all disbelief.  I would not recommend this film at all.  Save your money and your time!
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The Big Board / Re: Stupid Topic: Bad New Rules for Old Shows
« Last post by wdm1219inpenna on June 15, 2025, 06:22:17 AM »
Dream House - You cannot be on the show unless you are in a deep REM cycle of sleep.  That would be one way to save a lot on the prize budget!


The Supermarket Sweep idea with the broom!!!  CLASSIC!


Headline Chasers - Members of the staff dress up as giant newspapers and the contestants must chase them around the set throughout the entire episode.


Blank Check - Nobody will ever know what the check writer's numbers are as the pen used has invisible ink, hence BLANK Check.


Catch Phrase - Phrases are written down on cue cards and tossed at the contestants who must catch them wearing oven mitts.

All Pyramid iterations...if you conquer the Winner's Circle, instead of winning cash, you win an all expense paid trip to Egypt to visit the real Great Pyramid.


Pass the Buck - Contestants keep passing a sedated male deer (a buck) until each contestant becomes too exhausted to do so, the last player standing gets to take home the buck as a pet.
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The Big Board / Re: Bad fits for established hosts/announcers
« Last post by wdm1219inpenna on June 15, 2025, 06:09:50 AM »
WOW to reading all of these posts.  I never knew the story about Bob Hilton saving Rod Roddy from choking?!?!?!  That's truly amazing...Bob Hilton an unsung hero.  Bob tried his very best with the 1990 Let's Make A Deal but he did seem like a fish out of water.  He definitely was a handsome man but his announcing voice was by far his best quality.

I also do not recall seeing that episode (or group of episodes) where Allen Ludden became so terse.  That sadly surprised me, but as the poster indicated, Allen may have been dealing with health issues more by that time.  Lord knows I've been going through my own set of physical ailments from my eyes to my feet and some parts in between, and at times it has caused me to be not as gracious at my workplace as I could have been and should have been.

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The Big Board / Re: Bad fits for established hosts/announcers
« Last post by TLEberle on June 15, 2025, 12:35:58 AM »
Quick update after a chat with Jeremy Nelson, who I don't think has turned down a prompt from me yet and thus earns a Cool Friend point from me:

Listening to the show my summer stock counselor was on Password Plus in July of 1980, the partners are Betty and Bill. For the life of me I could not get away with upbraiding my wife (may it happen someday) the way Allen did. There's persnickety and wanting to move things along but Allen started to snap at his guests. Let Uncle Bill fire off a pun--he either did or will do the show a solid and he's possibly the best male celebrity partner you'll find.

I still find Bert Convy to be a bit..squirrely isn't the right word, and neither is flake because obviously he got work, but I watched SP on BUZZR this week and it seemed like he was guest hosting to my perception. It's weird to say that Mr. Password wasn't the right fit of his own show in the eighties, but the password was martinet, and unless Allen was dealing with his stomach issue by then I do not know why the production staff didn't grab him by the collar and say "straighten up, be a mensch and let your guest stars have a bit of fun for the love of Greg."
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The Big Board / Re: Match Game 1990-91 thoughts
« Last post by TLEberle on June 15, 2025, 12:26:48 AM »
I've had a browser tab on BUZZR for a while now (caught some of the TPIR mini-marathon) and happened upon MG '90. I wouldn't say that it's a home run but I think it's a solid double into the gap in the outfield.

Ross knows the beats and does not hail from genus Grumpasaurus Rex, so that's a win. I think as the series wore on he would be better at either reining in his charges or taking a signal from production to move on with it. I thought Jimmie Walker was funny almost uproarious, and didn't feel like he was getting in the way at all. "From the Simpsons, Marcia Wallace!" was certainly a trip. I don't know if MGP set aside the notion of regulars other than Charles, but I think a comedian in the five-hole would have been good. Given that a livestream doesn't allow you to skip forward I don't think there were a ton of twiddle thumbs moments or wishing I could move ahead

That said, Match Game needs a speed round like I need a $19,000 wine cooler. I hate that contestants get to speak all of twice and their fate is in the hands of stars who may or may not have drank their lunch. I think something like allowing each player the chance to play Match-up with all six celebrities and matching blank phrases instead of the 50/50 shot would have been an improvement.

KOMO carried the show but I think at 11 am--I don't recall having to choose between it an TPIR, so the newscast or preemption was never an issue here. I wonder if this is a case where being able to get a renewal into 1992 would help the show find its footing, add a bit of prestige and maybe last a few more years. I don't think a straight transfusion from 1973 was going to do it, but what we got obviously didn't stick the landing either.
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The Big Board / Re: Bad fits for established hosts/announcers
« Last post by Casey Buck on June 14, 2025, 07:17:01 PM »
another early episode apparently had Kline in an ape outfit making an entrance instead of Gene, but then Kline wanted a more serious tone

The cognitive dissonance here is off the charts.
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The Big Board / Re: Bad fits for established hosts/announcers
« Last post by whewfan on June 14, 2025, 07:00:37 PM »
Seconded on Gene Wood/TPIR.

When Johnny O died, G-T needed an announcer to get the shows in the can, so that was a temp job and I suspect Gene knew that. As for my takes on bad fits on hosts:

Louie Anderson for Family Feud
John Davidson for Pyramid and Hollywood Squares - he was okay on Time Machine
Patrick Wayne on Tic Tac Dough
Mike Darow on The $128,000 Question
Rolf B on Wheel of Fortune
Billy Bush on Let's Make a Deal
JD Roberto on Shop Till You Drop

Louie to me was inconsistent... some shows, I thought he was funny... other shows, he looks tired and wants to go home. Billy Bush had the same problems that Bob Hilton had on LMAD... he was trying to follow someone that was to LMAD as Bob Barker was to TPIR, and when Monty came on Bush's show to host a deal, Billy Bush couldn't help but look astonished at how easy and how much better Monty was. Never mind their attempts to make the show edgier... yeah it was distracting, but it took another 7 years or so for Wayne to finally find a way to make the show shine and not make anyone miss Monty.

JD Roberto wasn't really the problem with Shop Till You Drop... the mistake was getting rid of the stunts in favor of much less exciting and not in any way physical games that were just... boring. The bonus game was basically the same, but it lost a lot with its one level layout, and becoming some sort of Costco type store instead of a mall.

I guess I'll comment on Gene and Break the Bank. If you watch the first week of shows, Gene did seem to find moments to goof off and joke around in the prize vault, and another early episode apparently had Kline in an ape outfit making an entrance instead of Gene, but then Kline wanted a more serious tone, something Gene doesn't do. Gene struggled, and at one point didn't even seem to care, so they got Joe Farago, and honestly, I didn't think he was any better, and the show got much worse when they took out the stunts completely. Interestingly enough, Pat Finn mentioned with the TJW tryout that in another pilot, he was joking around more with the players, and Kline advised him not to do that. Finn was better with STYD, and didn't have to wear glasses like Kline insisted he wear on TJW, even though Pat didn't need glasses or wear them otherwise.
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The Big Board / Re: Bad fits for established hosts/announcers
« Last post by whewfan on June 14, 2025, 06:41:53 PM »
I was REALLY hoping the Barker Era streaming channel would drop a new batch of 1986 episodes as I really want to see Bob Hilton's run at announcing in its entirety. The couple episodes I have from his audition, I'd have hired him on the spot. I know "Bob and Bob" would probably pivot between confusing, frustrating, and funny - but I really liked what I heard.
I have heard several reasons why Bob was not hired for the role, from him hosting a TTTT knockoff pilot and turning it down to Barker having a fear of being upstaged... what's the real story?

Bob Hilton told us years ago at a GSC that Bob Barker thought Hilton was too good looking. Roger gave another interesting reason, Barker didn't want TWO Bobs. Hilton told us another interesting story... he saved Rod Roddy's life. One time, shortly after Rod became the permanent announcer, Rod was in a car accident en route to the studio, and while he was okay, he didn't think he was going to make the taping on time, so Hilton was called in to substitute. Well, Hilton arrived, and as it turned out, Rod made it before the taping was to start. So, Bob decided to stick around anyway. Well, at the CBS commissary, Rod Roddy and Bob Hilton were at different tables eating, when Rod starts choking... Bob immediately got up and ran to Rod and gave him the Heimlich maneuver... it saved his life.
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