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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: snowpeck on August 24, 2015, 08:08:44 PM
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Figured this was worthy of a new thread. I've gotten a list of at least some of the pilots set to be included in the marathon:
FEATURED FAILED PILOT DESCRIPTIONS:
ON A ROLL
ON A ROLL features two contestants attempting to solve a word puzzle by means of rolling a pair of dice. This 1986 game show, hosted by David Sparks, was never picked up for series.
STAR WORDS
Comedian and popular game show personality Nipsey Russell hosts this 1983 game show in which teams of two, each consisting of a contestant and celebrity guest, have to agree on a common association between words. STAR WORDS was never picked up as a series.
TKO
Game show veteran Peter Tomarken hosts TKO, the game show in which contestants attempt to solve trivia question after being given the initials of the answer. Players have the option to "knock-out" others in hopes of being the last player standing. TKO was created in 1989, but was never developed into a series.
BODY TALK
Vicky Lawrence hosts this game of charades featuring two teams of three, each with one contestant and two celebrity guests. Teams have the option to act out various words in pairs while the third member of each team tries to guess the word. This 1990 show never went to series.
FAMILY FEUD (specific for hour-long version)
Following the success of the traditional Family Feud, this Ray Combs-hosted version features FOUR families in this all-new, hour-long format. With the addition of the BULLSEYE round, families compete to see how money much they can add to their BANK by getting one shot to guess the top answer to survey questions. The four families then proceed to battle it out in this bracket-style format until one family comes out the winner. That family then gets to compete for their BANK in the FAST MONEY round. Although the regular 30 minute game continued to air, this special hour-long format was never picked up.
FAMILY FEUD (specific for hour-long version… but different format than above)
Following the success of the traditional Family Feud, this Ray Combs-hosted version features THREE families in this all-new, hour-long format. With the addition of the BULLSEYE round, families compete to see how money much they can add to their BANK by getting one shot to guess the top answer to survey questions. Two families then face off in the BULLSEYE round, then continue to battle in traditional FAMILY FEUD style all the way through FAST MONEY. The winner of FAST MONEY then takes on the challenge of competing against the returning champion... starting again with a BULLSEYE round. Although the regular 30 minute game continued to air, this special hour-long format was never picked up.
ADDITIONAL FEATURED PILOT DESCRIPTIONS:
BEAT THE CLOCK
BEAT THE CLOCK features two teams of two attempting to complete wacky and challenging physical obstacles before the "clock" runs out of time. In between seasons of hosting LET’S MAKE A DEAL, Monty Hall brings us this 1979 revival of the original 1950s game show.
BODY LANGUAGE
Hosted by Tom Kennedy from 1984-1986, Body Language features two teams, each consisting of a contestant and a celebrity guest, as they compete in a game of charades to guess clue words for a puzzle. In each turn, one teammate serves as the “actor,” and is responsible for pantomiming a selection of words or phrases, while the other teammate acts as the “guesser,” and has 60 seconds to guess as many words as possible.
CHILD’S PLAY
Following his hosting gig on Blockbuster, Bill Cullen took the stage for Mark Goodson’s Child’s Play, the game show featuring two contestants as they attempt to correctly guess words based on definitions given by children ages five to nine. Notable celebrities that appeared on the show prior to becoming famous include, Jeff Cohen, Breckin Meyer, Tara Reid and Masi Oka.
DOUBLE DARE
Before Jeopardy, Alex Trebek introduced us to DOUBLE DARE - a trivia game where you aren't betting on your success, you're betting on the failure of your opponent. Originally running from 1976-1977, this game show features two contestants, each trying to predict whether or not the other will correctly answer a trivia question. The winning contestant moves on to compete against "the spoilers" - an expert panel that they must stump.
FAMILY FEUD
Created by Mark Goodson, Family Feud is the American game show in which two families, each composed of five members, compete against each other to guess the most popular answers to a series of survey questions posted to 100 people. The original and first syndicated versions of the show were hosted by the legendary Richard Dawson.
LET’S MAKE A DEAL
This television game show was a daytime series that originally premiered in 1963 and was created, produced and presented by Monty Hall. Let’s Make a Deal is based around a number of deals offered to contestants, who must then attempt to trade items and/or “make a deal” for prizes with the possibility of winning something more valuable or a worthless piece of junk called a "Zonk."
MATCH GAME (original description)
Hosted by Gene Rayburn, Match Game is the American television panel game show, which features two contestants as they attempt to match the answers of six celebrities in a game of fill-in the missing blank. While the show originally premiered in 1962, it has been revived across five runs on American television.
MATCH GAME (specific for 1962)
In this ORIGINAL season of the beloved MATCH GAME, host Gene Rayburn guides two teams of three (each featuring two contestants and one celebrity guest) through a game of QUESTION AND ANSWER, as teammates try to match each other's answers. This 1962 series features Rayburn without his iconic "skinny mic".
NOW YOU SEE IT
NOW YOU SEE IT, hosted by Jack Narz, is a game show in which the answers are given to you… you just have to find them! Two contestants face off to answer a series of trivia questions while hunting for the answers in a word-search type game board. NOW YOU SEE IT originally ran from 1974-1975 with a revival in 1989.
ON A ROLL
ON A ROLL features two contestants attempting to solve a word puzzle by means of rolling a pair of dice. This 1986 game show, hosted by David Sparks, was never picked up for series.
PLAY FOR KEEPS
In this 1955 game show, two contestants face off answering trivia questions from a category of their choice. Each question presents a new opportunity for contestants to wager their earnings. PLAY FOR KEEPS, hosted by Sonny Fox, never went to series.
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FAMILY FEUD (specific for hour-long version… but different format than above)
Following the success of the traditional Family Feud, this Ray Combs-hosted version features THREE families in this all-new, hour-long format. With the addition of the BULLSEYE round, families compete to see how money much they can add to their BANK by getting one shot to guess the top answer to survey questions. Two families then face off in the BULLSEYE round, then continue to battle in traditional FAMILY FEUD style all the way through FAST MONEY. The winner of FAST MONEY then takes on the challenge of competing against the returning champion... starting again with a BULLSEYE round. Although the regular 30 minute game continued to air, this special hour-long format was never picked up.
Uh... Pretty sure it was. Isn't that exactly how Family Feud Challenge worked?
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FAMILY FEUD (specific for hour-long version… but different format than above)
Following the success of the traditional Family Feud, this Ray Combs-hosted version features THREE families in this all-new, hour-long format. With the addition of the BULLSEYE round, families compete to see how money much they can add to their BANK by getting one shot to guess the top answer to survey questions. Two families then face off in the BULLSEYE round, then continue to battle in traditional FAMILY FEUD style all the way through FAST MONEY. The winner of FAST MONEY then takes on the challenge of competing against the returning champion... starting again with a BULLSEYE round. Although the regular 30 minute game continued to air, this special hour-long format was never picked up.
Uh... Pretty sure it was. Isn't that exactly how Family Feud Challenge worked?
I was just gonna say the same thing, lol. This does look like it will be a pretty good marathon though!
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FAMILY FEUD (specific for hour-long version… but different format than above)
Following the success of the traditional Family Feud, this Ray Combs-hosted version features THREE families in this all-new, hour-long format. With the addition of the BULLSEYE round, families compete to see how money much they can add to their BANK by getting one shot to guess the top answer to survey questions. Two families then face off in the BULLSEYE round, then continue to battle in traditional FAMILY FEUD style all the way through FAST MONEY. The winner of FAST MONEY then takes on the challenge of competing against the returning champion... starting again with a BULLSEYE round. Although the regular 30 minute game continued to air, this special hour-long format was never picked up.
Uh... Pretty sure it was. Isn't that exactly how Family Feud Challenge worked?
It was also pretty much the format of Dawson's 1994 return also, was it not?
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It was also pretty much the format of Dawson's 1994 return also, was it not?
Not quite. Replace "defending champion" with "former contestant families from the original Dawson Feud" and you've got it.
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It was also pretty much the format of Dawson's 1994 return also, was it not?
Not quite. Replace "defending champion" with "former contestant families from the original Dawson Feud" and you've got it.
The defending champion rule was eventually reinstated.
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The defending champion rule was eventually reinstated.
Was it? I sit corrected then.
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The defending champion rule was eventually reinstated.
Was it? I sit corrected then.
Don't know precisely when, but they went back to it at some point before midseason if I remember correctly.
They kept bringing the original Dawson families back, though- from what I gathered, when they had special weeks like American Gladiators week the first half of the show featured a match between two of the returning families played for the same potential $7,000 in Fast Money.
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Don't know precisely when, but they went back to it at some point before midseason if I remember correctly.
It was definitely by about mid-October '94, based on Robair's ATGS recaps.
They kept bringing the original Dawson families back, though- from what I gathered, when they had special weeks like American Gladiators week the first half of the show featured a match between two of the returning families played for the same potential $7,000 in Fast Money.
This is what happened, yeah.
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Sunday, September 13, is still TBD.
(http://i.imgur.com/qlP1tim.png)
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Something exciting, at least for me, on that schedule there. Buzzr will be airing a 1969 episode of LMAD! To my knowledge that would now be the earliest episode of LMAD, outside of the pilot, that has been repeated!
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Sunday, September 13, is still TBD.
And their knowledge of the difference between EST and EDT is MIA.
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Sunday, September 13, is still TBD.
And their knowledge of the difference between EST and EDT is MIA.
QFT
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Perhaps the Family Feud pilots will show us why they added another digit to the bank above the board. I don't ever recall it going to $1,000 or more during the regular run.
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Perhaps the Family Feud pilots will show us why they added another digit to the bank above the board. I don't ever recall it going to $1,000 or more during the regular run.
Wasn't that for showing how much the Bullseye question was worth to everybody outside the camera shot?
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The Bullseye flat covered up the bank display. (http://s209.photobucket.com/user/tnawrestlingfan/media/Bullseye_28Combs29_1.jpg.html)
-Jason
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Perhaps the Family Feud pilots will show us why they added another digit to the bank above the board. I don't ever recall it going to $1,000 or more during the regular run.
Wasn't that for showing how much the Bullseye question was worth to everybody outside the camera shot?
There was a screen in the middle of the Bullseye display that actually displayed how much the question was worth. That wasn't chroma/green screen, the audience/contestants could see that.
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So now I'm curious...when Dawson returned in 1994, they used the Ferranti-Packer board for the entire game, and superimposed the survey graphics for the viewers at home (I do remember once seeing a wide shot of the set where they didn't have the CG board; it pretty much looked like the Fast Money setup).
Anyway, IIRC, they used similar computer graphics for the "Bankroll" round that replaced Bullseye. I'm guessing for the folks in studio, they simply displayed the Bankroll dollar amount/#1 answer on the Ferranti-Packer board?
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I'm guessing for the folks in studio, they simply displayed the Bankroll dollar amount/#1 answer on the Ferranti-Packer board?
The screenshot below from a Feud E! True Hollywood Story seems to show it was only the answer, not even the value.
(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/gameshows/images/b/b5/13_feud94_setshot.jpg)
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I'm guessing for the folks in studio, they simply displayed the Bankroll dollar amount/#1 answer on the Ferranti-Packer board?
The screenshot below from a Feud E! True Hollywood Story seems to show it was only the answer, not even the value.
(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/gameshows/images/b/b5/13_feud94_setshot.jpg)
Nice find...thanks!
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Here's a different thought: Maybe they were going to increase the payout if a family didn't get 200 points in Fast Money to $10/point. In that case, they would need four digits as 100 points would equal $1,000.
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To the original subject of this thread -- if anyone out there can record this marathon for me in its entirety, you will be handsomely rewarded with DVDs, board games, whatever you want. Contact me privately for details. ottinger@acd.net
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I will note that YouTube account BuzzrPlus+ (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuo4U_rxFO1yl2-eJtzBPaQ) is likely to get some to all of this up on its channel over the coming days.
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Here's a different thought: Maybe they were going to increase the payout if a family didn't get 200 points in Fast Money to $10/point. In that case, they would need four digits as 100 points would equal $1,000.
That was my initial thought as well. And after they commissioned the fourth digit, they decided to just go status quo.
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Has Buzzr themeselves may have given a clue to what the 4 digit bank might've been all about. You be the judge!
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1632231923660263&substory_index=0&id=1594990200717769&ref=content_filter
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I always thought it was because they may have had other plans for the execution of Bullseye before the backdrop was made and that the fourth digit was added to show the value of the question to everyone in studio.
A teaser pic that Buzzr uploaded earlier today shows a pilot Bullseye format that uses a graphic overlay with the contestant at the family podium. So, when they were using that, the four digit scoreboard may have been utilized for the reason of keeping track of question values. When they got the kinks worked out, and made the prop, it was no longer needed but they kept it. Just a guess.
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I remember watching it during its original airing, seeing the 4-digit bank, and figuring it was for $10/point in Fast Money during the second half. After all, with the jackpot stakes doubled from the first game, why wouldn't that be? That blank fourth space really annoyed me. It would make sense that it was originally intended for the Bullseye display, though, now that I've read how that sort of evolved from testing to airing.
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I remember watching it during its original airing, seeing the 4-digit bank, and figuring it was for $10/point in Fast Money during the second half...
That was one of TWO ideas I had in mind back then.
The second idea I'd had was that since the numbers in the main game were representing points (instead of dollars), maybe the fourth digit would be a leading "$" and still award $5/per point in "Fast Money." Remember, the bankroll displays showed a "$", so that was where my thought came. That wasn't the reason after all.
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Rechecking the "Lost & Found" schedule that snowpeck posted, I take it the Take Your Choice pilot, despite being in the promo, didn't make the final cut?
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Well caught the first night of this- had already seen the four Match Game eps, so the two pilots were the main draw to me.
Holy cow were they bad.
Play For Keeps- considering the time it was made, G/T just seemed to throw something together to try and cash in on the big money shows- Sonny Fox was ill-suited as a host, for the stakes they were proposing the games were too short (this was supposed to be a daytime show), and the entire set looked cheezy (you can tell this was a pilot because the bell and buzzer logo had the word SPONSOR on it).
Star Words- Poor Nipsey- he tried, but he was always a better panelist than a host. The game had some good ideas behind it, but needed a lot of tweaking (maybe if they turned it into a Q&A-type game it would work better; the endgame was pretty interesting). It looks like they were expecting the players to be a lot better than they actually were- I counted a total of three right answers in the frontgame.
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I will note that YouTube account BuzzrPlus+ (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuo4U_rxFO1yl2-eJtzBPaQ) is likely to get some to all of this up on its channel over the coming days.
Thought this was an official account until the WTXF ID popped up. I'm amazed this is still up.
As for Star Words, you can tell Goodson didn't fake an outcome for the pilot; so there's that. Is this the offspring of Snap Judgment and Tattletales?
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Play For Keeps- considering the time it was made, G/T just seemed to throw something together to try and cash in on the big money shows- Sonny Fox was ill-suited as a host, for the stakes they were proposing the games were too short (this was supposed to be a daytime show), and the entire set looked cheezy (you can tell this was a pilot because the bell and buzzer logo had the word SPONSOR on it).
To be clear, this isn't something they just threw together. It is simply a high-stakes version of their first hit, Winner Take All. So even in the 1950s, G-T was cannibalizing its own earlier successes.
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Years ago, when GSN first aired the "Let's Make a Deal" pilot, it was preceded by a title card (which I presume was created by GSN) stating that since it was a pilot, certain game outcomes may have been predetermined. I don't know whether that was actually true of the LMaD pilot, but I've noticed that Buzzr has not run any similar disclaimers.
My question for discussion: Does it matter? For example, if Buzzr chooses to air the "Card Sharks" pilot in which the full $28,800 is won, should they disclaim that it wasn't a real episode of the show, and the outcome (likely) didn't legitimately happen? Or to use "Star Words" as an example: While I dearly hope that that gameplay wasn't predetermined, I assume that since it was just a pilot, the winning contestant didn't actually receive the prize money. Should that be disclaimed?
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Well, we got our answer on the 4-digit display tonight. Seems like the Family Feud '92 pilot was testing about four potential rulesets at once in this pilot. It's a fascinating watch.
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Well, we got our answer on the 4-digit display tonight. Seems like the Family Feud '92 pilot was testing about four potential rulesets at once in this pilot. It's a fascinating watch.
Like, such as? I'm curious because really how much can you do with Family Feud. The only paradigm shift in the last twenty years has been the one-strike Triple round.
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Quick rundown of the pilot format (and seriously, you'll see how kitchen-sink this was as we go along):
- Each family given an initial bank of $2000.
- Bullseye questions aren't faceoffs; Ray goes down the line to each family member, asks a Bullseye question, and the top answer adds $1000 to the bank. There are also monitors labeled "$500" and "$250", presumably for the #2 and #3 answers, but no mention is ever made of these, so that idea must have been scratched very close to taping.
- Regular FF time, 1x-2x-3x, 300 dollars (not points) wins the game
- Standard Fast Money
Now, here comes the second half hour, with the first half's winner taking on the defending champs.
- No Bullseye leading off this time; now it's "high-stakes" Feud, with rounds played at 10x-20x-30x, and winnings deposited directly into a family's Fast Money Bank. There's no target score to win here; whichever team finishes the game with the bigger bank gets to play for it in Fast Money. The "steal answers add to the bank" rule gets added in here, as well.
- After those three rounds, now it's time for Bullseye. Trailing team goes first, and each #1 answer is worth $3000. No runners-up on the monitors this time.
- Even if the family that goes second clinches the win early, all five family members still play Bullseye to build their bank.
- Standard Fast Money
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The $500 and $250 monitors might have been used in one or both of the preceding pilots (this was labelled as #3 on the grid Buzzr sent me.)
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Just got the chance to watch TKO for the first (and last) time. Aside from the dated set, this was a pretty solid pilot. What network was this for? Too bad they didn't pick it up; I could see it having been potentially pretty successful.
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Just got the chance to watch TKO for the first (and last) time. Aside from the dated set, this was a pretty solid pilot. What network was this for? Too bad they didn't pick it up; I could see it having been potentially pretty successful.
ABC. They apparently passed on it in favor of Match Game.
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Just got the chance to watch TKO for the first (and last) time. Aside from the dated set, this was a pretty solid pilot. What network was this for? Too bad they didn't pick it up; I could see it having been potentially pretty successful.
ABC. They apparently passed on it in favor of Match Game.
Gee, what a problem to have. Two really good pilots and only 1 time slot available to fill.
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Just got the chance to watch TKO for the first (and last) time. Aside from the dated set, this was a pretty solid pilot. What network was this for? Too bad they didn't pick it up; I could see it having been potentially pretty successful.
ABC. They apparently passed on it in favor of Match Game.
Gee, what a problem to have. Two really good pilots and only 1 time slot available to fill.
"Keynotes" from Reg Grundy and "The Name Game" from Edwards/Billett were also contenders for that slot.
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So the mystery of the four-digit FF scoreboard is finally solved...frankly what they ended up with was better than what they tried here- it flowed a lot better.
And E-Bay as a contestant's name? I chuckled considering it pre-dated the website by 3-4 years...
TKO- I really liked this pilot. It could have used a little tweaking here or there (maybe shorten the first two rounds to 12 questions instead of 15 with no KO's 100-400 in Rd 1, 250-1000 in Rd 2, keep the third round the same but play it until two are out or a time limit where the one with the most money left wins, and add an endgame- maybe reformat the Gold Run from BB with a 4x4 board and they can win with a row, a column, or a diagonal with a 45 second time limit for $250 each or $10K for a row), but the general style of the game really worked (other than the set...what was the designer on when he came up with that?).
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During the "Family Feud Challenge" pilot, I was wishing for a rule that would result in both teams being disqualified. Exasperating game show contestants aren't a recent development.
Kind of a weird choice to jump from one half of a themed week of regular programming (the soap opera competition) to the second half of a different themed week (celebrity lookalikes). I don't know when that celebrity lookalike week originally aired, but am I safe in assuming that it was near the end of the show's run, when they were trying to goose their ratings in any way imaginable? I hope?
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Yeah, the flash on that "TKO" lettering would have triggered more seizures than Mary Hart's voice. Fun game, though, and the two-stage answering process really guarantees the playalong factor. It seems like it's just a few tweaks or refinements away from being really, really good. Seems like bad timing killed it more than anything.
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So the big difference between the Double Dare pilot and the series (other than the lack of some sound effects) is during the Spoilers round. The contestant has ten clues to choose from and has to get five past at least one of the spoilers, and consequently has five passes. For the series that was trimmed to eight clues (four gives/four passes).
It probably is very difficult to get one spoiler to balk five times, that and it eats up extra time and drags the show down to keep playing the round for longer than it should run.
Overall, a great pilot that was very entertaining.
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Looks like the Now You See It pilot may actually just be a test of the revised format, if not just a later series episode and not a pilot at all.
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Watching NYSI for the first time in a long time really drives home what a fun idea this game was, buried in an absolutely terrible format.
EDIT: Holy cow, they changed the rules for Round 3 after one episode. Who was minding the store back then?
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Looks like the Now You See It pilot may actually just be a test of the revised format, if not just a later series episode and not a pilot at all.
Having access to many of the episodes during the period of the revised format (except for the last few weeks of the series that GSN never got to before bailing out), this did not air. (The revised format took effect with the 12/23/74 episode.)
Am I the only one a little stymied by that decision to run the revised format test run and then running the first two actual episodes, which didn't really resemble what aired before them?
ETA: Although Mike makes a good point--is it possible NYSI didn't do an initial pilot, thus leading to changes on-air between episodes 1 and 2?
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ETA: Although Mike makes a good point--is it possible NYSI didn't do an initial pilot, thus leading to changes on-air between episodes 1 and 2?
There is a promo out there that shows six contestants on the staircase, so there must have been one. Though I can't come up with an idea of how the show would have worked with six contestants.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8mjwRP2j74
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In that case, I withdraw the question.
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Also, checking the Television City website turns up a NYSI taping in October 1973 (Studio 33), I'd assume that was the initial pilot.
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I too once thought I had received the Jack Narz pilots only to find they were three mid-run test shows of the straddling format before it got implemented on the air. Buzzr must have aired one of those instead. The only real difference I can recall between the three of them was trying to work in the pre-written bonus answer in different ways.
-Jason
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I too once thought I had received the Jack Narz pilots only to find they were three mid-run test shows of the straddling format before it got implemented on the air. Buzzr must have aired one of those instead. The only real difference I can recall between the three of them was trying to work in the pre-written bonus answer in different ways.
And then they ended up scrapping it entirely when the straddling format went to air.
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So the 1969 LMAD is a kinescope (not bad quality, though).
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Aww, got excited for an instant at the end of Beat the Clock when Jack Narz said "Stay tuned for Whew! next over most of these CBS stations."
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So the 1969 LMAD is a kinescope (not bad quality, though).
Considering it's the earliest series episode to ever be repeated, I'll take it.
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Did Wolpert give Whew to Fremantle? Semi OT I hope the currently airing LMAD makes it to buzzerplay... that $2 margin yo!
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Did Wolpert give Whew to Fremantle? Semi OT I hope the currently airing LMAD makes it to buzzerplay... that $2 margin yo!
It's not Wolpert's property, last I heard.
/finally got Buzzr
//I don't care what anybody says, I enjoyed me some Beat the Clock circa 1979
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Did Wolpert give Whew to Fremantle? Semi OT I hope the currently airing LMAD makes it to buzzerplay... that $2 margin yo!
It's not Wolpert's property, last I heard.
It still belongs to Sugarman doesn't it?
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Watching NYSI for the first time in a long time really drives home what a fun idea this game was, buried in an absolutely terrible format.
EDIT: Holy cow, they changed the rules for Round 3 after one episode. Who was minding the store back then?
I felt they fixed the format problem with the Chuck Henry version, which ironically tanked after 13 weeks IIRC. Thanks to everyone who put the pilots on here so "Buzzr-less" people like me could watch them. I was hoping for the "Spell Binders" pilot that I saw in La-La Land back in '78 with Bill Anderson hosting. But I'm happy with what I got to see. Never saw "Star Words" or "Body Talk" before.
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I was hoping for the "Spell Binders" pilot that I saw in La-La Land back in '78 with Bill Anderson hosting.
This leads to a curious question : What other pilots did they miss from the G/T files? I could only think of Match Game 2 w/ Charlene Tilton. Any others?
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I was hoping for the "Spell Binders" pilot that I saw in La-La Land back in '78 with Bill Anderson hosting.
This leads to a curious question : What other pilots did they miss from the G/T files? I could only think of Match Game 2 w/ Charlene Tilton. Any others?
Card Sharks from around the same time period, hosted by a guy by the name of Tom Green. Not that Tom Green; this one was a Denver sports anchor. Also the Jack Clark Now You See It pilot from 1985.
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I was hoping for the "Spell Binders" pilot that I saw in La-La Land back in '78 with Bill Anderson hosting.
This leads to a curious question : What other pilots did they miss from the G/T files? I could only think of Match Game 2 w/ Charlene Tilton. Any others?
Unless I missed it, NYSI '86 wasn't shown, nor was Oddball.
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There's Puzzlers & Call My Bluff has two run-through episodes that I know of.
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This leads to a curious question : What other pilots did they miss from the G/T files? I could only think of Match Game 2 w/ Charlene Tilton. Any others?
MG90 (six pilots)
Card Sharks '78
2008 MG (Andy Daly)
It's Predictable (1970, Gene Rayburn): This is likely the show that Jack Barry tried to rig. This game is very proto-Better Sex.
He Said, She Said
Family Feud (Dawson)
To Tell The Truth 1980 (Ward)
To Tell The Truth 1990 (Kline)
Price Is Right 1993 (Davidson)
Blockbusters (Cullen): Has a bonus mini-game
Password Plus
Showoffs (with Larry Blyden)
Mindreaders
Split Personality (1959)
Rate Your Mate (1951)
Take Your Choice (1954)
Say When (1960)
Missing Links
Get the Message
Better Sex
Play Your Hunch
Nothing But the Truth (1956, became TTTT)
Concentration (1985 with Orson Bean)
These are the G-T pilots I know about. Some of these may only be extant at the UCLA archive, G/T in the late 70s had a deal with NBC to produce a pilot a quarter, the BB, P+ and MR pilots are really test shows since they already had the format down and might as well have the network pay for your rehearsal. So some of these pilots may no longer exist, or they might not be in an air-worthy form.
Buzzr could have also aired any other Hatos-Hall pilot (there's at least a dozen, UCLA has them). May even Carruthers (some 70s stuff plus PYL) and Grundy as well.
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It's fun and trippy to see some of the trading circuit stuff in its best quality (Match Game pilot, etc.), but the real story that came out of Lost & Found for me was the potential for all sorts of near-pilots. The Family Feud thing was a fascinating find. We've seen the Classic Concentration test show and Now You See It mid-run pilots - who knows what else is around?
Add in the 1975 Mindreaders with Jack Clark, which was an entirely different game from the Dick Martin show. I'm sure the full Cash Tornado with Jim Perry would be fun. The Eubanks Card Sharks pilot had no appreciable differences I could remember, and not recalling the tape date ofhand, it might very well be one of the "not-really-pilots" Mike describes. Bob Hilton announced, the contestant answer displays weren't color-coded, etc.
-Jason
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This leads to a curious question : What other pilots did they miss from the G/T files? I could only think of Match Game 2 w/ Charlene Tilton. Any others?
MG90 (six pilots)
Card Sharks '78
2008 MG (Andy Daly)
It's Predictable (1970, Gene Rayburn): This is likely the show that Jack Barry tried to rig. This game is very proto-Better Sex.
He Said, She Said
Family Feud (Dawson)
To Tell The Truth 1980 (Ward)
To Tell The Truth 1990 (Kline)
Price Is Right 1993 (Davidson)
Blockbusters (Cullen): Has a bonus mini-game
Password Plus
Showoffs (with Larry Blyden)
Mindreaders
Split Personality (1959)
Rate Your Mate (1951)
Take Your Choice (1954)
Say When (1960)
Missing Links
Get the Message
Better Sex
Play Your Hunch
Nothing But the Truth (1956, became TTTT)
Concentration (1985 with Orson Bean)
These are the G-T pilots I know about. Some of these may only be extant at the UCLA archive, G/T in the late 70s had a deal with NBC to produce a pilot a quarter, the BB, P+ and MR pilots are really test shows since they already had the format down and might as well have the network pay for your rehearsal. So some of these pilots may no longer exist, or they might not be in an air-worthy form.
Buzzr could have also aired any other Hatos-Hall pilot (there's at least a dozen, UCLA has them). May even Carruthers (some 70s stuff plus PYL) and Grundy as well.
Burger OUT! <drops mike>
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There's also the Ray Combs syndie Feud pilots from 1987. Evidently, Take Your Choice very nearly made the cut based on the promos.
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Does the episode of It's News to Me aired two months before the general run started count as a pilot?
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would have loved to see What the Blank?
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This leads to a curious question : What other pilots did they miss from the G/T files? I could only think of Match Game 2 w/ Charlene Tilton. Any others?
What the Blank? w/ Fred Willard (MG revival from...2-3 yrs ago?)
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Just got the chance to watch TKO for the first (and last) time. Aside from the dated set, this was a pretty solid pilot. What network was this for? Too bad they didn't pick it up; I could see it having been potentially pretty successful.
ABC. They apparently passed on it in favor of Match Game.
Gee, what a problem to have. Two really good pilots and only 1 time slot available to fill.
If you remember correctly, ABC was planinng on cancelling The Home Show and replacing it with two game shows along with MG90.
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This leads to a curious question : What other pilots did they miss from the G/T files? I could only think of Match Game 2 w/ Charlene Tilton. Any others?
What the Blank? w/ Fred Willard (MG revival from...2-3 yrs ago?)
yes shot in 2004.
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And never seen, though notable in that it was about to be seen.
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Bumping from ancient times because I found my info on the Jack Narz mid-run pilots, of which Buzzr aired the third. They all taped on November 27, 1974. The only differences in format between them was that the first pilot did not award $100 to the player who reached 50 points first. Naturally, as they were done to test the straddling format, the games straddled between the three pilots.
Having never seen a bonus answer actually come up on a regular episode, I was tickled that the players wrote their answers on color-coded cards that looked just like Match Game (green for the left player, blue for the right) featuring a monochrome version of the neon NYSI logo on the back.
-Jason
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The bonus answer is one of those cases where it's a thing that I like because it adds a wrinkle to an otherwise straight-forward game, but in practice it falls flat.