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Allstar87:
--- Quote from: jjman920 on October 22, 2019, 07:58:18 PM ---That was an instance where they realized it was wrong back then. Prompting Allen to make an apology on a later episode, correct?
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Correct! :) I don't recall the exact date of the later episode, but it was about a month or two later.
EDIT: The apology aired on September 10, 1979.
JMFabiano:
--- Quote from: jjman920 on October 22, 2019, 07:58:18 PM ---
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--- Quote from: Bryce L. on October 20, 2019, 11:48:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: jjman920 on October 20, 2019, 09:46:03 PM ---I understand the tide is turning finally and the word is being considered a slur, but I believe that it should just be left in as a product of the time. I've felt that in seeing the Censored Eleven cartoons (and others with racial insensitivity) and the sitcoms of the 70's with uses of the N-word. It's a disservice to teaching why we shouldn't go back to what was normal. Air with a disclaimer if there's fear of major backlash.
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Or, if that's not enough, maybe skip that one for the network, but upload it (uncensored) to the YouTube page (like they did with the Jim Hess episode of PYL).
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Doesn't Buzzr skip the "Sicilian" episode of Password Plus for this reason? Despite the muting/blacking out that NBC or GSN applied to the segment?
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If they had, I don't think they did most recently. I'm pretty sure that came up a few weeks ago and I was confused for like a minute before I remember it already being censored before Buzzr aired it. I thought my stream had frozen because the shot was on the whole desk with no word on the front and no audio.
That was an instance where they realized it was wrong back then. Prompting Allen to make an apology on a later episode, correct?
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Yes, which is why I think NBC or G-T itself may have done the censoring, and that's how GSN and Buzzr received the episode. Master tapes have been cut up before...think this is what MTV did with the Beavis and Butt-head masters after the "fire incident." To a lesser extent, the edited version of "It's Your First Kiss, Charlie Brown" is pretty much the "official" one after its first broadcast.
A game show episode YouTube channel did post the PW+ episode and claimed Buzzr skips it.
tvmitch:
--- Quote from: JMFabiano on October 22, 2019, 07:34:39 PM ---I also heard speculation that this is why we haven't seen the premiere of MG/HS yet. As two MG questions have punchlines that don't age well (one about a son who wants to grow up to be a girl, the other is the typical "tough" school question and leads to the punchline about kids playing with guns there).
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It's not just the first episode though. In watching these MG/HS shows, I'm really surprised at how poorly these punchlines and topics have aged and how the show comes off as mean-spirited - to me, at least. There's at least one offensive question or comment in each show. I can't say I've watched a ton of late syndie MG over the years but I certainly don't recall MG relying so heavily on that type of humor.
SuperMatch93:
--- Quote from: tvmitch on October 22, 2019, 08:21:58 PM ---I can't say I've watched a ton of late syndie MG over the years but I certainly don't recall MG relying so heavily on that type of humor.
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To be fair, there are a few episodes of '73 that don't air anymore because some panelists (Brett I think, but there may have been others) would write "fag" as an answer. It's lazy writing, to be honest.
JasonA1:
--- Quote from: JMFabiano on October 22, 2019, 07:34:39 PM ---/Yet they keep the Liz Taylor questions, go fig.
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This touches upon my thoughts on the entire thing: the whole of old game shows are tonally different from where we are today. Censoring or not censoring doesn't inherently bother me, but to target one thing over the other feels a bit arbitrary.
For instance, a large swath of Card Sharks questions played upon stereotypes. From my observation, the early Perry writing put forth a generally understood stereotype in the question (i.e. We asked 100 New York cab drivers: do you think that a woman could become a good cab driver?), but a lot of the talk-out and results showed the times were changing (answer to this one: 70 said yes).
That's a bit far apart from some of the words we're discussing here, but it does make me think. Match Game is always going to be full of things that wouldn't be said today, and all of the series they air have episodes with then-innocuous chatter that feel a mile away from the norms of 2019.
-Jason
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