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BrandonFG:
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--- Quote from: JMFabiano on October 22, 2019, 07:34:39 PM ---/Yet they keep the Liz Taylor questions, go fig.
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This touches upon my thoughts on the entire thing: the whole of old game shows are tonally different from where we are today. Censoring or not censoring doesn't inherently bother me, but to target one thing over the other feels a bit arbitrary.
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I'm seeing this apply more and more to pop culture in general. I've seen several articles that complain about (insert TV show/movie from 30+ years ago) being offensive or "problematic" one way or another. I'm not saying the dialogue is appropriate, and I know it's hard to watch a 1980s TV show through 1980s eyes, but a lot of it should be seen through a different lens, even if it comes across as cringeworthy today*.
It's great that we have these discussions in 2019, and I don't have an issue with censoring or not censoring either. But I do feel some things are a stretch.
*Nothing discussed on this thread
Fedya:
--- Quote ---Why the need/desperation to hear words that you already know are there but will hurt others if they do air?
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Why the need/desperation to control what other people hear?
JakeT:
--- Quote from: Fedya on October 26, 2019, 08:38:48 AM ---
--- Quote ---Why the need/desperation to hear words that you already know are there but will hurt others if they do air?
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Why the need/desperation to control what other people hear?
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It has nothing to do with "controlling" what other people hear...it has EVERYTHING to do with recognizing that society has evolved over time...it has been recognized that certain actions, attitudes and language, which were somehow considered "acceptable" at the time, were, in fact, bigoted and harmful to not only individuals but to society as a whole...it has been determined that educated people understand that hate speech/slurs against various races, genders, sexual orientations and other marginalized groups simply aren't acceptable in a society that claims to embrace freedom, equality and decency towards our fellow man...
This is, by no means, a concept that is hard to understand...at least, it shouldn't be...the only ones that seem invested in these aberrations of our history are the ones who still enjoy using them to harm others today...
JakeT
Fedya:
--- Quote ---It has nothing to do with "controlling" what other people hear
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Yes it does. Consider a word like "retard", which gained currency in part because the words that had been used in the past, such as "moron" and "imbecile" were perceived to have become pejoratives. It didn't take long for the bansturbators to decide that "retard" was a pejorative too. And then the next word is going to be declared a pejorative, and the one after that.
Frankly, "little people" sounds to my ear far more insulting than does "midget".
--- Quote ---This is, by no means, a concept that is hard to understand...at least, it shouldn't be...the only ones that seem invested in these aberrations of our history are the ones who still enjoy using them to harm others today...
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The projection is strong here. Note the assuming of other people's intentions (and that they're always perceived to be bad), and the arrogation of the moral high ground to oneself here. So much of so-called "social justice" seems to be about deliberately being nasty to other people and then claiming one is really doing it to be "virtuous" and for the victim's own good. 35 years ago when the smoking bans were beginning to take off there were people saying that the next thing you know, they'd be telling you what you can and cannot eat. They were pooh-poohed, but of course turned out to be right. If you want some good examples, the UK Guardian's "Comment is Free" is full of them, with one of my favorites being the war on... cupcakes.
Or do a search on "woke knitting" if you want to go down a different rabbit hole.
Dbacksfan12:
+1 to all of what Ted said.
The last time someone called me a midget, I kicked them in their knee.
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