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The Big Board / Re: "People Puzzler" coming to syndication
« Last post by snowpeck on December 08, 2022, 05:08:09 PM »
I'm not sure the point trying to be made here. Isn't the strategy to see if they can replicate the show's success on GSN in a broader arena? I recall one of the articles about GSN's overall slate touting how much day-to-day engagement they get with their strategy of leaning into 5-a-week shows. Did I miss what you were driving at?

I think the point is : doesn't a station want to air successful shows that get higher ratings so that they can charge more money and turn a bigger profit?

Airing 2 year old reruns of a cable game show isn't going to accomplish that. And instead,  the local tv station becomes a little more homogenized (and irrelevant) in a 5000 channel universe.

Call me curmudgeonly, but I can't imagine the producers are thinking that People Puzzler is going to be a cash cow. Instead , they're going to make a little money on syndie rights and then next year, the next batch of cheap programming will be slotted. Or, the 6th double run of the day of Feud on that channel.
I mean let's call it what it is, or is going to be -- cheap programming to fill time slots with low ad rates.
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The Big Board / Re: "People Puzzler" coming to syndication
« Last post by tvwxman on December 08, 2022, 04:24:36 PM »
I'm not sure the point trying to be made here. Isn't the strategy to see if they can replicate the show's success on GSN in a broader arena? I recall one of the articles about GSN's overall slate touting how much day-to-day engagement they get with their strategy of leaning into 5-a-week shows. Did I miss what you were driving at?

I think the point is : doesn't a station want to air successful shows that get higher ratings so that they can charge more money and turn a bigger profit?

Airing 2 year old reruns of a cable game show isn't going to accomplish that. And instead,  the local tv station becomes a little more homogenized (and irrelevant) in a 5000 channel universe.

Call me curmudgeonly, but I can't imagine the producers are thinking that People Puzzler is going to be a cash cow. Instead , they're going to make a little money on syndie rights and then next year, the next batch of cheap programming will be slotted. Or, the 6th double run of the day of Feud on that channel.
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Game Show Channels & Networks / Re: GSN to revive Split Second
« Last post by Joe Mello on December 08, 2022, 01:45:01 PM »
Split Second seems a good fit for GSN. It's a 3-player game where values are doubled in round 2, the 3rd round is more or less on the clock, and it has room for a bonus round. All that's needed is to eliminate a player in round 2 and they're all set.
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Game Show Channels & Networks / Re: GSN to revive Split Second
« Last post by Allstar87 on December 08, 2022, 11:45:19 AM »
Can Your First Impression, Chain Letter 3 for the Money or It's Anybody's Guess be revived for low stakes?

Of the four, I could see 3 For The Money working best on GSN; a solid trivia game that I feel didn't get a fair shake in '75. If you want to keep the same-players-all-week angle, swap the car out for a trip and you're good to go.
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The Big Board / Re: Holiday PYL on ABC 12/6
« Last post by BillCullen1 on December 08, 2022, 11:04:28 AM »
For me the Pyramid decorations were a bit of a surprise as I don't recall them decorating the set as much as they did here. I agree that PYL wins the prize for the best decorations.
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The Big Board / Re: Holiday PYL on ABC 12/6
« Last post by Clay Zambo on December 08, 2022, 10:25:58 AM »
I thought the Pyramid was a lot of fun, if not spectacularly so. Set decoration was tasteful.

I haven't watched Wheel beyond the first few moments to see their decor, which was as I expected lovely.

PYL wins the prize, though, for going the extra mile and remixing the theme music to include lots of bells and strings. Totally charming. (And a good episode, too.)
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The Big Board / Re: Game Show Mount Rushmore
« Last post by jjman920 on December 07, 2022, 10:05:59 PM »
The Price is Right
Wheel of Fortune
Jeopardy!
The $100,000 Pyramid

There's a lot of jockeying for the 4th spot (WML, TTTT, Millionaire, Password), but I think the first three are pretty solid. TPIR's theme song is the synonymous with winning. Wheel of Fortune ranks as one of the most watched television programs (not just game show) of *all-time.* I think it can be missed now how popular Wheel was when it first debuted in syndication. Jeopardy is the gold standard of quizzer here in America, even if it doesn't hold up around the world. It's mix of knowledge and presentation skyrocketed to a class of prestige. Pyramid's Winner's Circle is the best bonus round in game shows, in my opinion. It doesn't resonate like phrases from the first three, which is why it could be swapped out with a number of shows, but "For $(x)xx,000, here is your first subject. Go!" is just one of those phases where your focus is on a tense 60 seconds where you're equally paying attention and formulating clues in your head yourself. It's almost perfect in my eyes.


This was discussed on SiriusXM NASCAR Radio “The Morning Drive” this morning.  One of the hosts relayed a story about Price staffers holding up huge cards with people’s names on them for “come on down” purposes, as the studio is too loud.

I’ve never heard this before…is there any truth to this?

I was at a taping in the fall of 2019 with my wife, my brother and my sister, and I can confirm the contestants' names were being shown as they were called to come on down.
I had been to numerous tapings from 2017-2020 and to one this year since the pandemic started and I can double confirm that they still put everyone's name on a cue card instead of just the first four because unlike the Barker Era, where the audience would be quiet as Bob threw to the announcer, they have the audience cheering as the show comes back from every break. Not only is it useful for the purposes of avoiding mishearing/not hearing at all, it also makes for a nice souvenir for every contestant, especially the ones who didn't get up on stage.
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The Big Board / Re: "People Puzzler" coming to syndication
« Last post by JasonA1 on December 07, 2022, 06:29:45 PM »
The counterpoint is : People search out hit shows that have millions of viewers and have hit the 100 ep mark to be brought into syndication.  People remember plots, jokes, set ups, storylines. Game shows don't bring that to the table.

(Most) game shows are not like that. With the exception of Wheel and Jep, there aren't many game shows that have reached "appointment television" over the years.

I'm not sure the point trying to be made here. Isn't the strategy to see if they can replicate the show's success on GSN in a broader arena? I recall one of the articles about GSN's overall slate touting how much day-to-day engagement they get with their strategy of leaning into 5-a-week shows. Did I miss what you were driving at?

-Jason
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The Big Board / Re: "People Puzzler" coming to syndication
« Last post by BrandonFG on December 07, 2022, 05:37:54 PM »
I see both sides of the coin. It's been a decade since I worked in TV so I know things have changed a lot. Case in point: the wall-to-wall newscasts, which as Matt points out, are more lucrative than buying whatever syndicated show.

However, I see this being a show that the indie or "My Network" affiliates pick up, or said sister stations from my example. Our MNTV station aired America Says reruns at 10:30 am, and I think the national ratings were no better than what 25 Words or Funny You Should Ask pulls, give or take a tenth of a point. For this experiment to work, I imagine you have to do more than the middle-of-the-pack first-run shows already serving as background noise. If you're not pulling much higher than what GSN sees, it's a bit of a wash, IMO.

If the other stations are like my local MNTV affiliate, this might become a surprise hit but I wouldn't expect it to set the world on fire ratings-wise.
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The Big Board / Re: "People Puzzler" coming to syndication
« Last post by tvwxman on December 07, 2022, 04:32:51 PM »
reruns of PP are not going to light up the airway, esp since there's a chance someone has already seen the show.
Perhaps I’m extrapolating more than I should out of thus comment, but couldn’t that be said for any rerun?  Furthermore, how many people besides a diehard will remember that Megan from Topeka won $2500 on episode 19?
It's a good point. The counterpoint is : People search out hit shows that have millions of viewers and have hit the 100 ep mark to be brought into syndication.  People remember plots, jokes, set ups, storylines. Game shows don't bring that to the table.

(Most) game shows are not like that. With the exception of Wheel and Jep, there aren't many game shows that have reached "appointment television" over the years. And sorry, Price fans, it's no longer appt tv. And neither are the prime time shows. Their ratings are good but not good enough, and the problem with them is their airings are too sporatic and not set in stone (like Wheel and Jep).
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