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Title: DWTS Coming Back to GSN?
Post by: daveromanjr on May 18, 2012, 12:38:23 PM
Every week the TV section of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette has a Q&A section where readers submit questions and the (sometimes abnormally cocky) editor for the media/TV portion answers.  Check it out here (http://"http://communityvoices.sites.post-gazette.com/index.php/arts-entertainment-living/tuned-in-journal/33009-tv-qaa-the-killing-dancing-with-the-stars-and-the-mentalist")

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Q: It appears the Game Show Network has pulled its rebroadcasting of previous seasons of “Dancing with the Stars” after airing just two seasons. Would the contestants have had a say in allowing this to air in the first place? Do you have any insight?
- Nancy, 59, Baldwin Boro
Rob: GSN is not airing “DWTS” now but plans to air reruns again in the future. As for the stars, they have no say. When actors agree to be on a TV show, they sign away rights for reruns to be shown at a later date. Actors on scripted shows usually get some compensation for these reruns but I’m not sure about “reality” show stars.
Title: DWTS Coming Back to GSN?
Post by: Bryce L. on May 18, 2012, 05:54:26 PM
Every week the TV section of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette has a Q&A section where readers submit questions and the (sometimes abnormally cocky) editor for the media/TV portion answers.  Check it out here (http://"http://communityvoices.sites.post-gazette.com/index.php/arts-entertainment-living/tuned-in-journal/33009-tv-qaa-the-killing-dancing-with-the-stars-and-the-mentalist")

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Q: It appears the Game Show Network has pulled its rebroadcasting of previous seasons of “Dancing with the Stars” after airing just two seasons. Would the contestants have had a say in allowing this to air in the first place? Do you have any insight?
- Nancy, 59, Baldwin Boro
Rob: GSN is not airing “DWTS” now but plans to air reruns again in the future. As for the stars, they have no say. When actors agree to be on a TV show, they sign away rights for reruns to be shown at a later date. Actors on scripted shows usually get some compensation for these reruns but I’m not sure about “reality” show stars.
I call Shenanigans on at least part of "Rob's" reply... haven't there been known cases where GSN has had to skip an episode (or sometimes a full week of shows!) of Match Game '7x/PM when such-and-such celebrity refused to give clearances for their episodes to air?
Title: DWTS Coming Back to GSN?
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on May 18, 2012, 06:20:11 PM
Yes. Ian Wallis, back when GSN was first established, got a message from David Schwartz, stating that celebrities, who were on game shows after 1973, must have their appearances cleared in order for them to air on that channel. Here's a list of all the stars who have said no to reruns on GSN:

Adam Arkin (Match Game '77, Match Game PM)
Anitra Ford (Match Game '76)
Betty Thomas (Password Plus, Body Language)
Fern Fitzgerald (Body Language)
James B. Sikking (Password)
Jay Leno (Tattletales)
Steve Kanaly (Match Game syndie -- though his two PM episodes did air at least once apiece on GSN, as did his week of All-Star Beat The Clock)
Valerie Bertinelli (Match Game '78, Match Game PM -- though three of her $20,000 Pyramid episodes did air on GSN)
David Leisure (Super Password)
Title: DWTS Coming Back to GSN?
Post by: clemon79 on May 18, 2012, 06:29:54 PM
Yes. Ian Wallis, back when GSN was first established, got a message from David Schwartz, stating that celebrities, who were on game shows after 1973, must have their appearances cleared in order for them to air on that channel.
Already I question this premise, David Schwartz or no David Schwartz...

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Here's a list of all the stars who have said no to reruns on GSN:
...and this list is nowhere close to complete, based on other omissions we have seen, so you might not want to use the word "all" next time you repeat utter hearsay as fact.
Title: DWTS Coming Back to GSN?
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on May 18, 2012, 06:36:29 PM
I can prove Ian Wallis said that:

http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=18390&st=0&p=220555&hl=+david%20+schwartz&fromsearch=1&#entry220555
Title: DWTS Coming Back to GSN?
Post by: J.R. on May 18, 2012, 06:40:59 PM
I can prove Ian Wallis said that:

http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=18390&st=0&p=220555&hl=+david%20+schwartz&fromsearch=1&#entry220555
Well gee, Inspector Clouseau, that was some genius detective work. Totally using a letter written last century sure is evidence enough.

Don't ever change.
Title: DWTS Coming Back to GSN?
Post by: clemon79 on May 18, 2012, 06:41:25 PM
I can prove Ian Wallis said that:
Oh, God.
Title: DWTS Coming Back to GSN?
Post by: BrandonFG on May 18, 2012, 07:08:17 PM
Cue him playing the victim role in 3, 2, 1...
Title: DWTS Coming Back to GSN?
Post by: TLEberle on May 18, 2012, 07:12:19 PM
Cue him playing the victim role in 3, 2, 1...
Somehow this ends up being my fault. Mark my words.
Title: DWTS Coming Back to GSN?
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on May 18, 2012, 07:26:38 PM
Cue him playing the victim role in 3, 2, 1...

Which I'm not gonna do.
Title: DWTS Coming Back to GSN?
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on May 18, 2012, 07:40:57 PM
stating that celebrities, who were on game shows after 1973
DWTS is a game show?
Title: DWTS Coming Back to GSN?
Post by: clemon79 on May 18, 2012, 08:04:32 PM
DWTS is a game show?
Of all of the worthless information in that post, this was about the least worthy of nitpicking. It's a show being aired on GSN, therefore they seem to think (and I emphasize *seem to think*) they need to clear appearances. Whether you or anyone else thinks it fits the definition of a "game show" is utterly immaterial.
Title: DWTS Coming Back to GSN?
Post by: mmb5 on May 18, 2012, 10:07:28 PM
I would think in an era when everything and everything is rerun into the ground, having rerun clauses in any contract has become a standard.
Title: DWTS Coming Back to GSN?
Post by: Matt Ottinger on May 18, 2012, 10:30:54 PM
I would think in an era when everything and everything is rerun into the ground, having rerun clauses in any contract has become a standard.
That's exactly where I am.  Since game show reruns were an almost unheard-of concept in the 70s and even 80s, there were probably no provisions for them in the standard contracts the artists signed back then.  I doubt very seriously that DWTS or any modern show has this problem.
Title: DWTS Coming Back to GSN?
Post by: PYLdude on May 18, 2012, 11:27:35 PM
Cue him playing the victim role in 3, 2, 1...

Which I'm not gonna do.

Because having righteous indignation is so much better.
Title: DWTS Coming Back to GSN?
Post by: dale_grass on May 19, 2012, 12:15:52 AM
Anitra Ford (Match Game '76)

I don't count this as much of a loss, seeing as how you couldn't see her legs anyway.
Title: DWTS Coming Back to GSN?
Post by: Jimmy Owen on May 21, 2012, 04:35:41 PM
Anitra Ford (Match Game '76)

I don't count this as much of a loss, seeing as how you couldn't see her legs anyway.
As long as "Invasion of the Bee Girls" can still be seen uncut, I am happy.
Title: DWTS Coming Back to GSN?
Post by: TimK2003 on May 21, 2012, 06:20:13 PM

As long as "Invasion of the Bee Girls" can still be seen uncut, I am happy.


FWIW, Netflix carries the Bee Girls as an instant streaming movie.
Title: DWTS Coming Back to GSN?
Post by: SRIV94 on July 03, 2012, 10:37:33 AM
Getting back to the topic at hand, DWTS has replaced most of the daytime lineup yesterday, today and tomorrow.  The regular daytime lineup returns Thursday.
Title: DWTS Coming Back to GSN?
Post by: Jay Temple on July 03, 2012, 12:33:13 PM
And for us Pyramid fans, the 2 a.m. showing of the 25K is still running.
Title: DWTS Coming Back to GSN?
Post by: aaron sica on July 03, 2012, 02:12:23 PM
Getting back to the topic at hand, DWTS has replaced most of the daytime lineup yesterday, today and tomorrow.  The regular daytime lineup returns Thursday.

Which left me greatly disappointed when I had a rare chance to watch GSN in the morning, expecting "Card Sharks" (which also shows how out of the loop I am).