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chris319:

--- Quote ---My TV is set to the 16:9 ratio
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That's why everything looks "normal" to you. MG and MG/HS were produced in 4:3. That your receiver is elongating the picture masks the problem Buzzr is having. Which station and digital subchannel are you watching and what market is it?


--- Quote ---The small TV I have in my home office doesn't have any settings to adjust aspect ratio (just a useless zoom option) so I was seeing it as it was being provided.
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One possibility is that the receiver is elongating the picture in spite of the fact that there are no user settings to control it.

At my former station we had a pair of "professional" Sony OLED monitors which cost $3,000 apiece. These monitors did that exact thing: they made all of the incoming video 16:9 to fill up the screen and we had no control over it. This bit us in the ass many times because if a field camera was set to 4:3, we had no way of knowing it because these monitors artificially made the picture 16:9 and thus disguised the fact that the picture was coming in at 4:3, no matter how loudly the directors and T.D.'s screamed and hollered.

Eventually these two $3,000 monitors stopped working and were removed from service. Rather than try to fix them in house or send them back to Sony, poof! The monitors disappeared in a puff of smoke. Nobody knew where they were or what happened to them. $6,000 worth of capital equipment vanished into thin air. They did not have asset tags and there was probably no record of their serial numbers.

What makes this problem difficult to trace is that monitors can disguise these maladies. I suspect there is a problem at Buzzr judging from the fact that their commercials look different compared to programming.

Pyramid80:

--- Quote from: chris319 on June 13, 2022, 10:01:48 PM ---
--- Quote ---My TV is set to the 16:9 ratio
--- End quote ---

That's why everything looks "normal" to you. MG and MG/HS were produced in 4:3. That your receiver is elongating the picture masks the problem Buzzr is having. Which station and digital subchannel are you watching and what market is it?


--- Quote ---The small TV I have in my home office doesn't have any settings to adjust aspect ratio (just a useless zoom option) so I was seeing it as it was being provided.
--- End quote ---

One possibility is that the receiver is elongating the picture in spite of the fact that there are no user settings to control it.

At my former station we had a pair of "professional" Sony OLED monitors which cost $3,000 apiece. These monitors did that exact thing: they made all of the incoming video 16:9 to fill up the screen and we had no control over it. This bit us in the ass many times because if a field camera was set to 4:3, we had no way of knowing it because these monitors artificially made the picture 16:9 and thus disguised the fact that the picture was coming in at 4:3, no matter how loudly the directors and T.D.'s screamed and hollered.

Eventually these two $3,000 monitors stopped working and were removed from service. Rather than try to fix them in house or send them back to Sony, poof! The monitors disappeared in a puff of smoke. Nobody knew where they were or what happened to them. $6,000 worth of capital equipment vanished into thin air. They did not have asset tags and there was probably no record of their serial numbers.

What makes this problem difficult to trace is that monitors can disguise these maladies. I suspect there is a problem at Buzzr judging from the fact that their commercials look different compared to programming.

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I get Buzzr via KMSP-TV4 in the Twin Cities.  I don’t know what you mean by substation, but I’m guessing you mean it’s 9.4?  The main station is KMSP or channel 9.

All the Buzzr commercials look like 16:9 formats put into the 4:3 ratio, so basically all the commercials have proper aspects but with black bars on the side, making them look extra small.

chris319:
KMSP channel 9 is divided into 4 subchannels, with Buzzr on channel 9.4.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KMSP-TV#KMSP-TV/WFTC_subchannels

How do shows like Dawson FF, Rayburn MG and Trebek CC look to you? Do you see black pillars on the sides only? Pillars are to be expected as the result of showing 4:3 content on a 16:9 display. I see pillars but they are excessively wide and the Buzzr logo is out of round. This changed some time last year. It used to be that the pillars were not as wide and the logo was perfectly round.

Pyramid80:

--- Quote from: chris319 on June 14, 2022, 01:16:28 PM ---KMSP channel 9 is divided into 4 subchannels, with Buzzr on channel 9.4.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KMSP-TV#KMSP-TV/WFTC_subchannels

How do shows like Dawson FF, Rayburn MG and Trebek CC look to you? Do you see black pillars on the sides only? Pillars are to be expected as the result of showing 4:3 content on a 16:9 display. I see pillars but they are excessively wide and the Buzzr logo is out of round. This changed some time last year. It used to be that the pillars were not as wide and the logo was perfectly round.

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I see the black side pillars on all the shows Buzzr airs.  They’re always the same size, and everything is proportioned correctly.  I sometimes see ‘postage stamps’ with black pillars on the top and bottom as well during commercials shot in the 16:9 format and then swished into the 4:3 perspective for Buzzr, but that’s the only time I see postage stamps.  I never see postage stamps during the actual program.

chris319:

--- Quote from: Pyramid80 on June 19, 2022, 12:14:31 PM ---
I see the black side pillars on all the shows Buzzr airs.  They’re always the same size, and everything is proportioned correctly.  I sometimes see ‘postage stamps’ with black pillars on the top and bottom as well during commercials shot in the 16:9 format and then swished into the 4:3 perspective for Buzzr, but that’s the only time I see postage stamps.  I never see postage stamps during the actual program.

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How does the lower-right logo look to you?

I can't think of a show running on Buzzr that was produced in 16:9, so the majority of shows can be expected to have pillars.

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