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Buzzr aspect ratio
chris319:
--- Quote from: MSTieScott on April 22, 2022, 02:15:46 AM ---Recently (in the past few months or so), I've noticed more artifacts when the video has a lot of elements changing at once, like the bandwidth has gotten lower. Supermarket Sweep has always had its rough patches on that front, but now it's sometimes happening even on relatively static shows like Classic Concentration. I compared my antenna feed to the feed directly on Buzzr's website -- the artifacting isn't happening on buzzrtv.com, so it must be my affiliate.
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I can tell you these subordinate programming services are very highly compressed.
snowpeck:
--- Quote from: chris319 on June 13, 2022, 12:04:15 AM ---If you are watching a TERRESTRIAL, OVER-THE-AIR BROADCAST feed of Buzzer, take note of the Buzzr logo in the lower right of the screen. If it looks perfectly circular to you then that casts suspicion on the KCOP.2 broadcast. If it looks narrow, it could be leaving Buzzr that way. In either case, please report here the logo's appearance along with the station's call letters, subchannel number and the station's city of license.
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I normally watch the stream, but we get it here on WAGA 5.3 OTA and on cable as well. Just checked that feed and the aspect ratio looks perfectly fine to me. Round Buzzr logo and appropriately sized black bars on the side of the screen.
chris319:
--- Quote from: snowpeck on June 13, 2022, 02:13:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: chris319 on June 13, 2022, 12:04:15 AM ---If you are watching a TERRESTRIAL, OVER-THE-AIR BROADCAST feed of Buzzer, take note of the Buzzr logo in the lower right of the screen. If it looks perfectly circular to you then that casts suspicion on the KCOP.2 broadcast. If it looks narrow, it could be leaving Buzzr that way. In either case, please report here the logo's appearance along with the station's call letters, subchannel number and the station's city of license.
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I normally watch the stream, but we get it here on WAGA 5.3 OTA and on cable as well. Just checked that feed and the aspect ratio looks perfectly fine to me. Round Buzzr logo and appropriately sized black bars on the side of the screen.
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How is your receiver set up? Some receivers elongate 4:3 content to 16:9 so everything would appear normal if that is the case.
I watched some '70s TTTT last night on Buzzr OTA. My TV set is configured to NOT elongate 4:3 content to 16:9. The Buzzr logo was egg shaped, compressed horizontally, with excessively wide horizontal blanking on the left and right. The commercials were reduced to a 16:9 postage stamp in the center of the screen with excessive horizontal and vertical blanking.
These problems did not exist about a year ago.
snowpeck:
--- Quote from: chris319 on June 13, 2022, 08:08:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: snowpeck on June 13, 2022, 02:13:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: chris319 on June 13, 2022, 12:04:15 AM ---If you are watching a TERRESTRIAL, OVER-THE-AIR BROADCAST feed of Buzzer, take note of the Buzzr logo in the lower right of the screen. If it looks perfectly circular to you then that casts suspicion on the KCOP.2 broadcast. If it looks narrow, it could be leaving Buzzr that way. In either case, please report here the logo's appearance along with the station's call letters, subchannel number and the station's city of license.
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I normally watch the stream, but we get it here on WAGA 5.3 OTA and on cable as well. Just checked that feed and the aspect ratio looks perfectly fine to me. Round Buzzr logo and appropriately sized black bars on the side of the screen.
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How is your receiver set up? Some receivers elongate 4:3 content to 16:9 so everything would appear normal if that is the case.
I watched some '70s TTTT last night on Buzzr OTA. My TV set is configured to NOT elongate 4:3 content to 16:9. The Buzzr logo was egg shaped, compressed horizontally, with excessively wide horizontal blanking on the left and right. The commercials were reduced to a 16:9 postage stamp in the center of the screen with excessive horizontal and vertical blanking.
These problems did not exist about a year ago.
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The small TV I have in my home office doesn't have any settings to adjust aspect ratio (just a useless zoom option) so I was seeing it as it was being provided.
Pyramid80:
--- Quote from: chris319 on June 13, 2022, 12:04:15 AM ---I watch Buzzr on KCOP channel 13.2 via Spectrum cable. Since I've retired from Rupert's evil empire I can't check the Buzzr downlink. Since some time in late 2021 the aspect ratio on Buzzr has been messed up. The logo in the lower right is supposed to be perfectly circular. It used to be perfect but since late last year it's been too narrow.
I have my TV set so that a show produced in 4:3 is displayed in 4:3 rather than being artificially stretched to 16:9. I want to see FF just as Paul Alter saw it. Buzzr is weird because so many shows are 4:3 but many commercials are produced in 16:9. I have a feeling somebody violated the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" rule and tried to "fix" something that wasn't broke and messed it up in the process. The challenge is to find out where in the chain the picture is being distorted; whether it's leaving the Buzzr plant that way or whether the problem is occurring on the receiving end.
If you are watching a TERRESTRIAL, OVER-THE-AIR BROADCAST feed of Buzzer, take note of the Buzzr logo in the lower right of the screen. If it looks perfectly circular to you then that casts suspicion on the KCOP.2 broadcast. If it looks narrow, it could be leaving Buzzr that way. In either case, please report here the logo's appearance along with the station's call letters, subchannel number and the station's city of license.
N.B. If you are watching a satellite or Internet feed of Buzzr, that is not a terrestrial over-the-air broadcast feed. If you are watching an OTA feed via cable, that counts as an OTA feed.
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I sent you a PM, but passing this along, in case you didn’t see it.
I get Buzzr via xfinity cable through one of my local TV stations. My TV is set to the 16:9 ratio, but when I go to the Buzzr channel, I see everything in the correct aspect ratio with black bars in the left and right. No one is stretched out or anything and the Buzzr logo is perfectly round. I have seen Buzzr itself actually goof on the ratio with Match Game Hollywood Squares being stretched to fit my entire screen without any black bars on the sides, but I knew that was Buzzr’s fault since the preceding and following shows were back to the correct aspect ratio. That was a Buzzr goof though. I hope this helps.
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