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jjman920:
So, do you suggest we ignore history? There's a saying about what that leads to. It has in the past and is currently doing so now.
I never said that it should be celebrated nor embraced. And no one is saying "WATCH BUZZR FOR THE USE OF THESE BANNED WORDS." Buzzr's not airing a promo saying, "We're airing these words you can't say anymore." No one is getting off because they can finally hear these words on a game show. I'm saying that it shouldn't be ignored or erased from history.
--- Quote from: JakeT on October 21, 2019, 06:56:36 PM ---What WAS once normal no longer IS normal...there is much in our history that was once considered "normal" but that, by no means, suggests we should embrace it or celebrate it now...if you don't get how the insensitivity and bigotry of the past can still harm people in the present, that's on you...
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History *is* painful. A lot of people did a lot of bad things and there's going to be pain in confronting those bad things. But confronting those things is important to keep them from happening again. It has hurt me to read about the things that have been done in the past, but it's also made me a better person for learning about them.
You mention "sweeping under the rug", well what do you think not mentioning or acknowledging it is doing?
Also, people don't know what the words are that are already there. Most people aren't us who recognize that these shows have already aired and can go back to see what they are. And most aren't going to look it up. So in the case of this instance on Price and the MG prompt on MGHS, people are simply left in the dark for an entire segment. And in the case of MGHS, it literally affects following along with the game.
This censoring may not seem important, and it mostly isn't in this context, but television is just as much of a record for history as film, music, literature or textbooks. And these gems airing certainly do count among those.
JakeT:
--- Quote from: jjman920 on October 21, 2019, 10:43:52 PM ---So, do you suggest we ignore history? There's a saying about what that leads to. It has in the past and is currently doing so now.
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This censoring may not seem important, and it mostly isn't in this context, but television is just as much of a record for history as film, music, literature or textbooks. And these gems airing certainly do count among those.
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Removing offensive material is NOT "ignoring history" and that has been one of the most bullshit arguments used by those determined to keep the celebration of bigotry alive in this country...
And, please...don't insult my or the intelligence of others by trying to treat a 30+ year old game show rerun like it's some masterpiece like the Mona Lisa or "Citizen Kane"...
JakeT
Bryce L.:
People who look for reasons to be offended, will find them every damn time. And if they choose to see it that way, it's their own problem.
PPatters:
--- Quote from: Bryce L. on October 21, 2019, 11:49:56 PM ---People who look for reasons to be offended, will find them every damn time. And if they choose to see it that way, it's their own problem.
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I know Little People, though, who hear that word and feel very attacked by it. This is a word that has been hurled at them to dehumanize them, to compare them to circus sideshows, and it’s hurtful because it’s a word meant to hurt. I don’t think disliking this word and hearing it on national television means that they’ll find a reason to be offended “every damn time,” nor do I see that as their problem. To feel a physical reaction, to be gutted by that word, I understand why someone would not want to hear it.
JakeT:
--- Quote from: Bryce L. on October 21, 2019, 11:49:56 PM ---People who look for reasons to be offended, will find them every damn time. And if they choose to see it that way, it's their own problem.
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Spoken like the typical American racist/bigot...nice job...
JakeT
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