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Bryce L.:

--- Quote from: jjman920 on October 20, 2019, 09:46:03 PM ---I understand the tide is turning finally and the word is being considered a slur, but I believe that it should just be left in as a product of the time. I've felt that in seeing the Censored Eleven cartoons (and others with racial insensitivity) and the sitcoms of the 70's with uses of the N-word. It's a disservice to teaching why we shouldn't go back to what was normal. Air with a disclaimer if there's fear of major backlash.

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Or, if that's not enough, maybe skip that one for the network, but upload it (uncensored) to the YouTube page (like they did with the Jim Hess episode of PYL).

JakeT:

--- Quote from: jjman920 on October 20, 2019, 09:46:03 PM ---I understand the tide is turning finally and the word is being considered a slur, but I believe that it should just be left in as a product of the time. I've felt that in seeing the Censored Eleven cartoons (and others with racial insensitivity) and the sitcoms of the 70's with uses of the N-word. It's a disservice to teaching why we shouldn't go back to what was normal. Air with a disclaimer if there's fear of major backlash.

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The answer is quite simple...

What WAS once normal no longer IS normal...there is much in our history that was once considered "normal" but that, by no means, suggests we should embrace it or celebrate it now...if you don't get how the insensitivity and bigotry of the past can still harm people in the present, that's on you...

JakeT

JakeT:

--- Quote from: Bryce L. on October 20, 2019, 11:48:01 PM ---Or, if that's not enough, maybe skip that one for the network, but upload it (uncensored) to the YouTube page (like they did with the Jim Hess episode of PYL).

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Why the need/desperation to hear words that you already know are there but will hurt others if they do air? 

JakeT

Allstar87:

--- Quote from: JakeT on October 21, 2019, 06:58:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Bryce L. on October 20, 2019, 11:48:01 PM ---Or, if that's not enough, maybe skip that one for the network, but upload it (uncensored) to the YouTube page (like they did with the Jim Hess episode of PYL).

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Why the need/desperation to hear words that you already know are there but will hurt others if they do air? 

JakeT

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Some people like seeing the shows as they originally aired, warts and all. It's not embracing or celebrating awfulness; it's simply acknowledging that it was there.

Warner Brothers handles the issue pretty elegantly with the disclaimer on some of their cartoon DVDs. Adding something like that to the internet uploads would be a decent solution; the original is online for people who want to see it, and the edited version is on TV for those who don't. (Or if it can't be edited without disrupting the game, it stays online-only.)

Different viewers have different sensitivities, there's nothing bad about that. By making edited and unedited versions available in some form, both parties can be satisfied.

JakeT:

--- Quote from: Allstar87 on October 21, 2019, 08:21:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: JakeT on October 21, 2019, 06:58:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Bryce L. on October 20, 2019, 11:48:01 PM ---Or, if that's not enough, maybe skip that one for the network, but upload it (uncensored) to the YouTube page (like they did with the Jim Hess episode of PYL).

--- End quote ---

Why the need/desperation to hear words that you already know are there but will hurt others if they do air? 

JakeT

--- End quote ---

Some people like seeing the shows as they originally aired, warts and all. It's not embracing or celebrating awfulness; it's simply acknowledging that it was there.

Warner Brothers handles the issue pretty elegantly with the disclaimer on some of their cartoon DVDs. Adding something like that to the internet uploads would be a decent solution; the original is online for people who want to see it, and the edited version is on TV for those who don't. (Or if it can't be edited without disrupting the game, it stays online-only.)

Different viewers have different sensitivities, there's nothing bad about that. By making edited and unedited versions available in some form, both parties can be satisfied.

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At the risk of having to repeat myself, "if you don't get how the insensitivity and bigotry of the past can still harm people in the present, that's on you..."

This isn't about "different sensitivities"...this is just one in a slew of examples of the bigoted history in our nation and you, among others, are eager to sweep this under the rug and accuse decent-minded people who want to see the end of such prejudices of being overly-sensitive...

There is a simple principle that all humans are expected to live by: right vs. wrong...when you refuse to acknowledge this and are willing to condone the sins of the past for the sake of your own personal entertainment, it's time for you to perhaps take a moment for some personal reflection...

JakeT

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