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toddyo

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« Reply #30 on: November 19, 2012, 10:49:51 AM »
I'm not sure if it's the format, but any show that is heavily edited rates a kill button. Unless there was a technical reason to edit, programs should be live to tape with minimal stopdown. It shows poor directing skills or a poor format - i.e. drawing suspense by overkilled needless closeups. This isn't $64,000 Question with an overhead Kliegl and an isolation booth.

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« Reply #31 on: November 19, 2012, 10:57:08 AM »
I'm not sure if it's the format, but any show that is heavily edited rates a kill button. Unless there was a technical reason to edit, programs should be live to tape with minimal stopdown. It shows poor directing skills or a poor format - i.e. drawing suspense by overkilled needless closeups.
Or just poor producing. Taking 7 hours to tape a one-hour show is ridiculous, considering how most solid producers used to tape close to a week's worth of shows in that amount of time.
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« Reply #32 on: November 19, 2012, 11:06:40 AM »
The Gong Show CAN be fun, but I think towards the end, it was obvious Chuck was trying to kill his own show, and he couldn't have been happier to end the show at the finale.

Except he didn't.  While NBC cancelled the show, Chuck did produce two more seasons of nighttime syndie episodes (and they weren't all done in one fell swoop--the 1979-80 season they migrated from NBC to Sunset Gower).  Granted, that's not the grind of churning out a weekday series, but if he was really tired of doing the show, he wouldn't have even done the two extra seasons.

I know Barris has said that he wanted to stop because he was having "a midlife crisis on national TV" in interviews.  Personally, I think that's a denial move.
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« Reply #33 on: November 19, 2012, 01:48:15 PM »
21 Cards. It was a local show that aired in Minnesota on WUCW 23, filmed at Mystic Lake Casino. They tried way too hard to mimic Deal or No Deal. The format, the models, the execution, it was boring as hell.

It would take over 4 hours to shoot three 24-minute episodes. The audience was just bored to tears.

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« Reply #34 on: November 19, 2012, 11:20:46 PM »
For the most part, I can't stand relationship shows.  I'll watch TNG now and then.

Notable exception: "Bzzzz!!!"  Energetic format and Annie Wood was (and still is) easy on the eyes.

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« Reply #35 on: November 20, 2012, 08:31:06 AM »
Love Experts was good.
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« Reply #36 on: November 23, 2012, 02:44:23 PM »
I'm not sure if it's the format, but any show that is heavily edited rates a kill button. Unless there was a technical reason to edit, programs should be live to tape with minimal stopdown. It shows poor directing skills or a poor format - i.e. drawing suspense by overkilled needless closeups. This isn't $64,000 Question with an overhead Kliegl and an isolation booth.

This is one of the things that's stopping me from going back to watching The Price is Right full time. I know it has to do more with my background in broadcasting (and the fact that I saw one of Barker's last episodes live), but I can tell where a stopdown took place (the most glaring being the segue from pricing game 1 to IUFB 2) or where ADR was inserted. That really disrupts the flow of the show and adversely affects my viewing experience, in my honest opinion.

On another technical standpoint, I dislike time constraints. I miss the days when hosts can "shoot the s**t" for a few minutes or where errors that don't affect the outcome of gameplay are kept in for laughs. It's more natural for a show to come off that way than looking like the show was sterilized by George Lucas.

As for actual game formats, count me in as one who loathed dating shows. Strangely enough, the show I liked the most was Bzzz! I also had a soft spot for Freakin' Studs.

Outside of Millionaire, shows that offer $1,000,000 prizes, regardless of format, get a dislike from me, as well.

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« Reply #37 on: November 23, 2012, 03:07:13 PM »
Outside of Millionaire, shows that offer $1,000,000 prizes, regardless of format, get a dislike from me, as well.

This makes no damned sense whatsoever, and this is coming from the guy who coined the phrase "Mo' Money Syndrome."
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« Reply #38 on: November 23, 2012, 03:34:28 PM »
Really? I understood him completely. I don't agree with him, but I understood him.
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« Reply #39 on: November 23, 2012, 03:41:04 PM »
Really? I understood him completely. I don't agree with him, but I understood him.
And you think it makes sense to instantly dislike a series because of the top prize, regardless of format?

It makes no more sense than it does to dismiss one because it doesn't pay out enough.
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« Reply #40 on: November 23, 2012, 04:31:36 PM »
And you think it makes sense to instantly dislike a series because of the top prize, regardless of format?
That's why I said understand what he's saying, and I disagree.
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« Reply #41 on: November 23, 2012, 11:11:10 PM »
That's why I said understand what he's saying, and I disagree.

Fine, then in response to your original question: Yes, really.
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« Reply #42 on: November 24, 2012, 01:09:06 AM »
To clarify:

First, I apologize for wording this incorrectly. The recent glut of shows that offered a seven-digit payday made me a jaded person, and I put my thoughts on the screen the wrong way.

Millionaire (in its purest form) presented a solid format that rewarded astute players who can answer increasingly difficult questions. However, look at what other million-dollar shows that came after consisted of: a money ladder, help to move the contestant along (lifelines), increased difficulty, and properly inserted commercial breaks done to death. The only difference was that most shows offered a small twist to keep it from looking like a completely aped format (Greed, Weakest Link), offered a decent twist to the formula (Duel), or used a lot of style to hide the lack of substance (Deal or No Deal, Set for Life). Wheel of Fortune doesn't make a big deal out of it every single show, and we did lambaste The Price is Right's efforts to offer the big prize, both in Barker's (guaranteed spin on TV) and Carey's (MDPG and larger-than-necessary showcase bid conditions) versions.

To me, I'd rather have a format that rewards a contestant for being skilled (and equally as lucky), than have a show who uses the cash prize to hide the fact that the format is fatally flawed (Million Dollar Money Drop). So, that latter part of the previous sentence is what I should have said, and I messed up. I'm sorry.

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EDIT: I can't take credit for coining the phrase "Mo' Money Syndrome." I'd like to, but I did get it from someone else on this board. :)
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« Reply #43 on: November 24, 2012, 07:44:01 PM »
I never got into panel shows outside of 2/3rds of the Big Three; namely, WML? and TTTT.  And even then I leaned more towards the latter.  A friend from Florida got me interested in WML? again, though, and I wish the aborted DVD set came out.  

I'm not sure if I'll have to hand in my hardcore fan card for this one...
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« Reply #44 on: November 24, 2012, 08:09:00 PM »
I don't see why: at various times I've liked or not cared for What's My Line, To Tell the Truth and I've Got a Secretion.
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