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Jimmy Owen · « **Reply #105 on:** September 15, 2009, 01:27:57 PM »

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'226065\' date=\'Sep 15 2009, 01:15 PM\'][quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'226061\' date=\'Sep 15 2009, 10:09 AM\']/And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't "Deep Throat" divulge all that insider info and still live out his life without ever being outed?[/quote]
Actually, no, he outed himself four years ago.

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Yes, and everybody said "Who?" and yawned.

pentellit · « **Reply #106 on:** September 15, 2009, 01:27:58 PM »

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'226065\' date=\'Sep 15 2009, 10:15 AM\'][quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'226061\' date=\'Sep 15 2009, 10:09 AM\']/And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't "Deep Throat" divulge all that insider info and still live out his life without ever being outed?[/quote]
Actually, no, he outed himself four years ago.

/don't think I wasn't curious to see what a basic Wiki search on "deep throat" would turn up
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So he did live out his life without ever being outed by persons other than himself?

clemon79 · « **Reply #107 on:** September 15, 2009, 01:52:19 PM »

[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'226069\' date=\'Sep 15 2009, 10:27 AM\']So he did live out his life without ever being outed by persons other than himself?[/quote]
1) If so, he couldn't have outed himself, because he'd already be out.

2) Once he did out himself, it's temporally impossible for anyone else to out him.

pentellit · « **Reply #108 on:** September 15, 2009, 02:19:22 PM »

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'226075\' date=\'Sep 15 2009, 10:52 AM\'][quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'226069\' date=\'Sep 15 2009, 10:27 AM\']So he did live out his life without ever being outed by persons other than himself?[/quote]
1) If so, he couldn't have outed himself, because he'd already be out.

2) Once he did out himself, it's temporally impossible for anyone else to out him.
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So he was not outed by persons other than himself before he died?

Mr. Armadillo · « **Reply #109 on:** September 15, 2009, 02:52:28 PM »

Are you really not capable of reading those two lines and making the conclusion yourself?

That is correct, he was not outted by any other person before he died.

pentellit · « **Reply #110 on:** September 15, 2009, 03:43:08 PM »

[quote name=\'Mr. Armadillo\' post=\'226083\' date=\'Sep 15 2009, 11:52 AM\']Are you really not capable of reading those two lines and making the conclusion yourself?[/quote]
My original statement was "...didn't "Deep Throat" divulge all that insider info and live out his life without ever being outed?" Mr. Armadillo, what conclusion did I miss?
[quote name=\'Mr. Armadillo\' post=\'226083\' date=\'Sep 15 2009, 11:52 AM\']That is correct, he was not outted by any other person before he died.[/quote]
Thank you.

Matt Ottinger · « **Reply #111 on:** September 15, 2009, 03:59:36 PM »

[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'226093\' date=\'Sep 15 2009, 03:43 PM\']without ever being outed?"[/quote]
If I may, I think I see where we're having a problem. I believe that the point pentellit is making is that Deep Throat's identity was successfully protected by the people who promised to protect it for years and years and years and years, and that ultimately, the only reason his identity became known is because he (along with his family) divulged it himself. In other words, when she said "without ever being outed" she specifically and pointedly meant "without ever being outed by somebody else". Several people (myself included, at first) saw the original post to mean that his identity remained secret his entire life, which of course was not the case.

davemackey · « **Reply #112 on:** September 15, 2009, 04:03:56 PM »

[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'226061\' date=\'Sep 15 2009, 01:09 PM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'226034\' date=\'Sep 14 2009, 11:30 PM\']A source who is "outed" stops being a source. See Plame, Valerie and Throat, Deep.

Scott does not leak information on game show boards. He values his job.[/quote]
Today's TPIR is not like it was during The Barker years. The staff and crew no longer have to live in fear and dread like they did during the Barker-Dobkowitz regime. This is no longer the "Barker Inquisition".
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The WGMC will see you in his throne room after the show, Miss... Miss... Tellit?

SRIV94 · « **Reply #113 on:** September 15, 2009, 04:04:20 PM »

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'226094\' date=\'Sep 15 2009, 02:59 PM\'][quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'226093\' date=\'Sep 15 2009, 03:43 PM\']without ever being outed?"[/quote]
If I may, I think I see where we're having a problem. I believe that the point pentellit is making is that Deep Throat's identity was successfully protected by the people who promised to protect it for years and years and years and years, and that ultimately, the only reason his identity became known is because he (along with his family) divulged it himself. In other words, when she said "without ever being outed" she specifically and pointedly meant "without ever being outed by somebody else". Several people (myself included, at first) saw the original post to mean that his identity remained secret his entire life, which of course was not the case.
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And that concludes today's episode of Words Have Meanings. Next week, our panelists will be Ruta Lee and Robert Mandan.

Mr. Armadillo · « **Reply #114 on:** September 15, 2009, 04:46:13 PM »

[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'226093\' date=\'Sep 15 2009, 02:43 PM\'][quote name=\'Mr. Armadillo\' post=\'226083\' date=\'Sep 15 2009, 11:52 AM\']Are you really not capable of reading those two lines and making the conclusion yourself?[/quote]
My original statement was "...didn't "Deep Throat" divulge all that insider info and live out his life without ever being outed?" Mr. Armadillo, what conclusion did I miss?[/quote]

Chris L. stated this:

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1) If <someone else had outed him>, he couldn't have outed himself, because he'd already be out.

Since we had already established that he did, in fact, successfully out himself, the conclusion that he could NOT have been outed by anyone else logically follows.

chris319 · « **Reply #115 on:** September 15, 2009, 05:04:20 PM »

The point is that if Woodward and Bernstein had divulged Deep Throat's identity during the Watergate era when he was leaking all of that info, W & B could have kissed their source of info goodbye. See my post about Lipschitz, Charley.

Twentington · « **Reply #116 on:** September 15, 2009, 05:35:00 PM »

This is why I love this forum. We can go from TPIR to Deep Throat in no time flat.

NickS · « **Reply #117 on:** September 15, 2009, 09:36:10 PM »

[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'226108\' date=\'Sep 15 2009, 04:35 PM\']This is why I love this forum. We can go from TPIR to Deep Throat in no time flat.[/quote]

There has to be some connection between the 70's TPiR and Linda Lovelace.

/Oh... THAT "Deep Throat."
//Use as directed.

SRIV94 · « **Reply #118 on:** September 15, 2009, 09:39:19 PM »

[quote name=\'TeppanYaki\' post=\'226133\' date=\'Sep 15 2009, 08:36 PM\']/Oh... THAT "Deep Throat."[/quote]
There's another one--the (in)famous one from Welcome Back Kotter.

/"I must go home. . .and gargle."

Steve Gavazzi · « **Reply #119 on:** September 15, 2009, 11:07:00 PM »

[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'226096\' date=\'Sep 15 2009, 04:04 PM\']And that concludes today's episode of Words Have Meanings. Next week, our panelists will be Ruta Lee and Robert Mandan.[/quote]
After yesterday's Pyramid, I'm not sure Robert Mandan's words do have meanings. :-)