Two TPiR games retired

[chris319]

[quote name=\'cmjb13\' post=\'183714\' date=\'Apr 10 2008, 04:24 AM\']
The reason I've been told is 1 word.

Boring.
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There may be two other words in there:

"No Barker".

[Robert Hutchinson]

As much as I enjoyed Poker Game for having a unique way to use prices, it's certainly a game that inflation has slowly drained the skill out of over the years. Not that it was loaded with skill to begin with (is that washing machine $499 or $500?), but differences of a few hundred dollars are much harder to spot today than they were 30 years ago.

[JasonA1]

[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'183747\' date=\'Apr 10 2008, 02:00 PM\']
differences of a few hundred dollars are much harder to spot today than they were 30 years ago.
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Which is exactly why I think Range Game should go to a $500 rangefinder on a $2,000 scale. They let inflation hit the car games, the grocery games, Check Game...why does this one have to sit and be so antiquated? It might make it an exercise in pricing again versus a game of "just hit the button after a few seconds."

-Jason

[pyramid100]

[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'183753\' date=\'Apr 10 2008, 02:09 PM\']
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'183747\' date=\'Apr 10 2008, 02:00 PM\']
differences of a few hundred dollars are much harder to spot today than they were 30 years ago.
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Which is exactly why I think Range Game should go to a $500 rangefinder on a $2,000 scale. They let inflation hit the car games, the grocery games, Check Game...why does this one have to sit and be so antiquated? It might make it an exercise in pricing again versus a game of "just hit the button after a few seconds."

-Jason
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wouldn't that be the same difficulty? right now isn't it a $150 range on a $600 scale ? the range covers 25% of the scale at any point in time, even with the new rules added

[Robert Hutchinson]

[quote name=\'pyramid100\' post=\'183823\' date=\'Apr 11 2008, 04:07 PM\']wouldn't that be the same difficulty? right now isn't it a $150 range on a $600 scale ? the range covers 25% of the scale at any point in time, even with the new rules added[/quote]
It's the same blind odds--if you close your eyes and hit the button randomly, your chances of winning are the same. But that's not the same thing as actual difficulty.

Imagine that we expand it further (and make it too easy), with a $5,000 range on a $20,000 scale. Which are you going to have more confidence about: that the car is between $13,000 and $18,000, or (as the game currently works) between $15,500 and $15,650?

[eday_2010]

[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'183606\' date=\'Apr 9 2008, 10:39 AM\']

They haven't taken down the "Barker" from the "Bargain Bar" sign yet, have they?  (Yeah, I know that Barker's Markers is now Make Your Mark.)  Perhaps when Drew has run out of ancient man names to use.
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Hasn't he already? I think he ran out after "Ezekiel Barker".

[Mr. Armadillo]

Nah...he's used "Bill Cullen" on at least one occasion.  And, believe it or not, "Bob Barker".  

Of course, Ezekiel Barker could be the new 37 hours...a very lame joke designed to give you at least ONE reason to care about an otherwise lame game.

[wiseguy182]

I would imagine that Joker was retired because it was one of those games that you could play perfectly and still lose: even if you get all 4 prizes right, and discard 4 cards, there was still a chance that the 5th card could be the joker. Annoying, but fixable. There are a couple other games like this, the dreaded Secret X comes to mind. I recently saw an ep from the early 80's and the woman placed her free x in the third column, won an x and placed it in the same column. D'oh. Bob Barker: "that's not where I would have put that." she failed to get third x and obviously lost.

i kind of liked poker game.

[DoorNumberFour]

[quote name=\'wiseguy182\' post=\'185095\' date=\'Apr 30 2008, 05:26 AM\']
I would imagine that Joker was retired because it was one of those games that you could play perfectly and still lose: even if you get all 4 prizes right, and discard 4 cards, there was still a chance that the 5th card could be the joker. Annoying, but fixable.
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So is Five Price Tags, but that game's been in the rotation for at least 30 years.

I don't think it's annoying. Your odds are dependent upon how much you know about the small prizes they present to you, in both 5PT and Joker. It wouldn't be as entertaining if a complete shutout was possible, spoiling any drama behind the price/Joker reveal.

[Neumms]

[quote name=\'DoorNumberFour\' post=\'185101\' date=\'Apr 30 2008, 08:34 AM\']
So is Five Price Tags, but that game's been in the rotation for at least 30 years.

I don't think it's annoying. Your odds are dependent upon how much you know about the small prizes they present to you, in both 5PT and Joker. It wouldn't be as entertaining if a complete shutout was possible, spoiling any drama behind the price/Joker reveal.
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In Five Price Tags, you are selecting car prices, however, so it isn't all luck. (Or at least there's the TPIR illusion of skill.)

Secret X annoys me more than than Joker or even 1/2 Off. If they'd let you do the three-in-a-row up and down (taking the risk with your first earned X that you'll bag the second one) you could rise or fall on your own pricing acumen. Then again, it's kind of an odd, boring game to begin with.

[Mr. Armadillo]

Five Price Tags also has the "Loyal Friend and True" trick that the last digit is never anything other than 0 or 5 in this game...therefore, you can usually eliminate a couple tags off the top.

I think what did Joker in was being (virtually) strictly harder than Shell Game for no real payoff.  When you add Bonus Game to the mix, they really didn't need three games that played out pretty much identically.