Author Topic: GSN's at it again... (Read 5776 times)

gamed121683 · « **on:** April 18, 2007, 06:03:41 PM »

They're once again trying to break out of the game show mode. Personally, I don't know WHY they keep trying but...

http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cf...p;art_aid=58881

The Pyramids · « **Reply #1 on:** April 18, 2007, 06:30:56 PM »

[quote name=\'gamed121683\' post=\'150468\' date=\'Apr 18 2007, 05:03 PM\']
They're once again trying to break out of the game show mode. Personally, I don't know WHY they keep trying but...

http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cf...p;art_aid=58881
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I look forward to the new promos. This does not sound to me like another 2004-style overhaul.

clemon79 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 18, 2007, 07:00:48 PM »

[quote name=\'PaulD\' post=\'150471\' date=\'Apr 18 2007, 03:30 PM\']
I look forward to the new promos. This does not sound to me like another 2004-style overhaul.
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I'm not sure how you got that out of that press release, which basically went out of its way to say as little as it possibly could.

Matt Ottinger · « **Reply #3 on:** April 18, 2007, 08:27:32 PM »

I've lost count of how many times they've said they want to branch out beyond game shows. Still, whatever that number happens to be, it's also the number of times they've been unsuccessful at it.

Of course they can't depend on the archive year after year after year, but it's still hard to understand why they can't see for themselves where their successes have been. They remade Lingo and Chain Reaction badly and got good results. People are willing to watch interesting 'original' games, and games are just about the cheapest form of original programming you can make. What's the problem?

Steve McClellan · « **Reply #4 on:** April 18, 2007, 08:35:30 PM »

Matt, I don't know that any post has been more worthy of your current sig. Does common sense truly disqualify one from running a network?

aaron sica · « **Reply #5 on:** April 18, 2007, 08:50:43 PM »

[quote name=\'Steve McClellan\' post=\'150497\' date=\'Apr 18 2007, 08:35 PM\'] Matt, I don't know that any post has been more worthy of your current sig. Does common sense truly disqualify one from running a network? [/quote]

Common sense disqualifies one from having an authority position in a lot of companies, unfortunately....

Dbacksfan12 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 18, 2007, 09:25:54 PM »

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'150495\' date=\'Apr 18 2007, 07:27 PM\']
What's the problem?
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Game sh0ws aren't hip 4 da--oh, screw it.

Jimmy Owen · « **Reply #7 on:** April 19, 2007, 12:18:57 PM »

Imagine if Spike TV held on to "Fandango" and "Crook and Chase" in the morning and today's primetime lineup of CSI, UFC and TNA?

I'd prefer all game shows 24/7, but if GSN wants to change, it should change completely. Right now, a lot of young people who might like the primetime sked may have programmed their remote to automatically skip the channel because they once caught a glimpse of John Charles Daly. Ergo, no young people watching at all and no old people watching GSN in prime.

uncamark · « **Reply #8 on:** April 19, 2007, 12:55:48 PM »

[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'150546\' date=\'Apr 19 2007, 11:18 AM\']
Imagine if Spike TV held on to "Fandango" and "Crook and Chase" in the morning and today's primetime lineup of CSI, UFC and TNA?

I'd prefer all game shows 24/7, but if GSN wants to change, it should change completely. Right now, a lot of young people who might like the primetime sked may have programmed their remote to automatically skip the channel because they once caught a glimpse of John Charles Daly. Ergo, no young people watching at all and no old people watching GSN in prime.
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They tried to change somewhat, if not completely, during the day (remember Arsenio "Star Search" and repeats of "AN3AC"?). It didn't work.

The thing is that for most entertainment cable channels, daytime is strictly leaving the lights on until night. Who's making any kind of effort to compete with broadcast television during the day these days, excepting Discovery's how-to shows and the kiddie channels? Is TLC's "Story" franchise still going? If we hadn't fallen into that decade-long black hole after 1990 with the genre, GSN would have enough 90s and 00s titles to fill a daytime schedule the way TNT does with "L&O," "Alias," "ER" and more "L&O."

And to be honest with you, if GSN wanted to be serious with daytime, it would probably be with low-risk call-in-and-lose shows.

Dbacksfan12 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 19, 2007, 01:51:24 PM »

[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'150546\' date=\'Apr 19 2007, 11:18 AM\']
Right now, a lot of young people who might like the primetime sked may have programmed their remote to automatically skip the channel
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And yet, I'm sure there's a good amount of "young people" that stop when they see the whammy. I don't think its fair you put it on the heads of "young people".

Jimmy Owen · « **Reply #10 on:** April 19, 2007, 02:51:16 PM »

[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'150553\' date=\'Apr 19 2007, 01:51 PM\']
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'150546\' date=\'Apr 19 2007, 11:18 AM\']
Right now, a lot of young people who might like the primetime sked may have programmed their remote to automatically skip the channel
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And yet, I'm sure there's a good amount of "young people" that stop when they see the whammy. I don't think its fair you put it on the heads of "young people".
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I just don't see the audiences for play-by-play casino shows and trad. game shows to be compatible. Either go one way or the other all day.

Joe Mello · « **Reply #11 on:** April 19, 2007, 03:02:33 PM »

[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'150557\' date=\'Apr 19 2007, 02:51 PM\']
I just don't see the audiences for play-by-play casino shows and trad. game shows to be compatible.[/quote]

Then I'm an exception to your rule. It's not like GSN is alternating game shows and telenovelas. Casino shows are adjunct enough to get people on either side of the aisle to watch the other. Whether that amount of people is large enough to continue experimenting is debatable, there is a demand.

While it's probably true, I still find Mark's comment humorous about how young people will stop at whammy.

Dbacksfan12 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 19, 2007, 03:11:14 PM »

[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'150557\' date=\'Apr 19 2007, 01:51 PM\']
I just don't see the audiences for play-by-play casino shows and trad. game shows to be compatible. Either go one way or the other all day.
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Oh, bull. I enjoy watching poker to see people take risks. For that same reason, I enjoy shows such as Jeopardy!, Press Your Luck, and Celebrity Sweepstakes for those same reasons.

By your standards, ESPN shouldn't be airing poker either, because sports fans are a different crowd. I think someone is mildly bitter that television isn't "as good" as it used to be and is simply looking for a scapegoat.

Jimmy Owen · « **Reply #13 on:** April 19, 2007, 03:17:01 PM »

I guess the question is will casino show fans tune into game shows? Myself, I'd rather see two separate channels so everyone is satisfied.

ESPN is a better fit for the casino tourneys because they normally feature longform play-by-play coverage, and the events are appealing to the same demographic as play-by-play sports.

clemon79 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 19, 2007, 03:30:12 PM »

[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'150560\' date=\'Apr 19 2007, 12:11 PM\']
I think someone is mildly bitter that television isn't "as good" as it used to be and is simply looking for a scapegoat.
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Then you, sir, are reading WAY too much into Jimmy's comments.

Author Topic: GSN's at it again... (Read 5776 times)

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