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The Big Board / Re: NBC Daytime Schedule 1980
« Last post by tyshaun1 on September 06, 2025, 08:42:09 AM »
Is there any particular reasons the tapes for Mindreaders are missing, given that G-T was generally good at archiving?

After a show is broadcast, what happens to the tape?  I'm guessing it's held by the network for a period of time but is it at the network's discretion to decide what happens to it after that, or is it up to the producer to request it for their archives?

Maybe NBC figured G-T wouldn't want it because the show wasn't a success(?)
But yet, they kept Double Dare. And Beat The Clock.

I think it may be a NBC thing, considering most of the run of Sale of the Century, Wheel of Fortune, High Rollers, and Dream House were all lost.
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The Big Board / Re: Treasure Hunt question
« Last post by jrjgames on September 06, 2025, 03:18:29 AM »
Here is what we know.

As you know Wink & I was developing a new version.

I spoke to Mike Metzger. He told me all 30 boxes had a skit. Emile would place the check in a box removing the props.

No one knew where the check was.

A player picked a box. During the break they would take a 15 minute stop down & everyone went backstage.

They'd discuss the skit. "Geoff this is the one with the Genie box. We need Steve dressed as the Genie. We need the living room set." Etc etc.

Then they'd start the show.

Mike told me the first time anyone knew the check was in the box was when Geoff peeked inside. If the box was picked that had the check, the production still did the stop down & went over the skit that would have been in that box.

Question it all you want, but that's how Mike recalled it.

Hope that clears things up.

John
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The Big Board / Re: NBC Daytime Schedule 1980
« Last post by mmb5 on September 05, 2025, 06:54:28 PM »
Although I would say that some markets bought into the curiosity factor initially.  I think of markets like Detroit and Philadelphia, which generally didn't clear whatever NBC offered at 10AM (although Philadelphia was clearing CS for a brief time in late 1979-1980, but not for most of the series), but did clear Dave at first but dumped it within a few months.
10 year old me finally has a chance to see what this David Letterman Show is about, and I'm greeted with Richard Simmons instead.
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The Big Board / Re: NBC Daytime Schedule 1980
« Last post by Ian Wallis on September 05, 2025, 06:02:36 PM »
Is there any particular reasons the tapes for Mindreaders are missing, given that G-T was generally good at archiving?

After a show is broadcast, what happens to the tape?  I'm guessing it's held by the network for a period of time but is it at the network's discretion to decide what happens to it after that, or is it up to the producer to request it for their archives?

Maybe NBC figured G-T wouldn't want it because the show wasn't a success(?)
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The Big Board / Re: The most-improved hosts/announcers
« Last post by TimK2003 on September 05, 2025, 05:43:56 PM »
Drew Carey improved a lot once Roger and co. left and he found his groove in 2010. His first few seasons were awkward because it still felt like Bob's show and he was filling in.

He has. But I still wish he wouldn't be so predictable during the SCSD.  The obligatory "Who do you wanna say hi to?" line for every contestant still sounds like he's not that interested or comfortable in emceeing the show. 
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The Big Board / Re: The most-improved hosts/announcers
« Last post by SRIV94 on September 05, 2025, 05:26:06 PM »
Were there any hosts who got years and years of experience but didn't show improvement?
Besides David Sparks?  :)
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The Big Board / Re: The most-improved hosts/announcers
« Last post by MSTieScott on September 05, 2025, 04:30:31 PM »
My primary takeaway from this thread is that if somebody works for years at a job, they get better at the job, which is fairly intuitive -- even Barker credits his experience hosting a local radio audience participation show for honing his skills prior to Truth or Consequences. Even the hosts that often get derided around here for their poor hosting abilities probably would have improved if their shows had lasted five years or so.

The only way a host gets worse at their job is if they've been doing it for so long, they've mentally checked out. Were there any hosts who got years and years of experience but didn't show improvement?
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The Big Board / Re: The most-improved hosts/announcers
« Last post by Hastin on September 05, 2025, 01:33:21 PM »
I'd give a nod to Ken Jennings, who has really grown into the role.

It's pretty amazing how much he's improved from the first guest hosting stint, but he talked about how it took a lot of personal work and training to get even to that point. Ken has gotten really good at the off-the-cuff comments from the contestant interviews during the game, adding his own comments/details, and other quips. He recently mentioned in an interview he writes all of his own intros as well. Extremely natural, and I think that it ended up being the best for Jeopardy! from a legacy perspective, as someone directly connected to the game - but he did the work to become a solid host. More enjoyable for me from a game perspective than the final few Alex years.
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The Big Board / Re: The most-improved hosts/announcers
« Last post by BrandonFG on September 05, 2025, 12:55:38 PM »
Drew Carey improved a lot once Roger and co. left and he found his groove in 2010. His first few seasons were awkward because it still felt like Bob's show and he was filling in.
I think it’s a cross between needing to carve out his own lane but also getting away from the monotony of the past 36 years. The perfect bid was probably the best thing that could’ve happened, as it forced the show to add a better variety of prizes. Could Drew have handled it better on air? Yes, but I understand his concern over a potential scandal one year into the job.

Getting away from the “Fried Chicken!”-style Showcases was a good move too. I’d argue he found his stride around 2011-12.
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The Big Board / Re: The most-improved hosts/announcers
« Last post by Jeremy Nelson on September 05, 2025, 12:48:14 PM »
Mike O'Malley was so incredibly hyper hosting Get the Picture but improved tremendously hosting GUTS/Global GUTS.
I'd argue that the jump from GTP to Guts was just the same guy in a much better vessel for his energy.

I'd give a nod to Ken Jennings, who has really grown into the role.

I've always maintained that if some other guy with a very similar name didn't become famous at about the same time, Mark L. would be much better known than he is, and it's a shame that it never happened by no fault of his own.
I dunno- it's not like Marky Mark was siphoning work away from Mark L; if anything, people saying his name likely piqued more interest in Mark L, as he jokes on Price Live.
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