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Here's something for you to chew on: Which 'black & white' game show do you think GSN SHOULD do for their 'Saturday Night Classics?' And which B&W game show do you think GSN WILL do?
Cordially,
Tammy Warner--the 'Marjorie Wallace of the Big Board!'
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[quote name=\'Winkfan\' date=\'May 6 2005, 06:18 PM\']Here's something for you to chew on: Which 'black & white' game show do you think GSN SHOULD do for their 'Saturday Night Classics?' And which B&W game show do you think GSN WILL do?
Cordially,
Tammy Warner--the 'Marjorie Wallace of the Big Board!'
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Would be nice to see them do at least one quintet of B&W shows. Do I think they'll do one, not likely, but we've been surprised before.
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[quote name=\'Winkfan\' date=\'May 6 2005, 06:18 PM\']Here's something for you to chew on: Which 'black & white' game show do you think GSN SHOULD do for their 'Saturday Night Classics?' And which B&W game show do you think GSN WILL do?
Cordially,
Tammy Warner--the 'Marjorie Wallace of the Big Board!'
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The ratings may plunge in the toilet. Many people find B&W shows a turn-off. A good compromize would be to show game shows that were during both the B&W and colour era and mix it up. Password or TTTT would be a good one to do.
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Why would ratings go down or people be turned off just because shows are in B&W? Last I checked, reruns of "I Love Lucy" and other B&W sitcoms were still pretty durned popular...
That said, I can't see GSN giving a black and white show a Saturday night marathon. If I'm wrong, and they do...I hope it's TTTT, myself.
--Sam
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[quote name=\'SamJ93\' date=\'May 6 2005, 07:35 PM\']Why would ratings go down or people be turned off just because shows are in B&W? Last I checked, reruns of "I Love Lucy" and other B&W sitcoms were still pretty durned popular...
That said, I can't see GSN giving a black and white show a Saturday night marathon. If I'm wrong, and they do...I hope it's TTTT, myself.
--Sam
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I think all of the color choices will be used up by July. New, second runs of 'Dodgeball' may be running on Saturday nights by then like last summer.
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[quote name=\'PaulD\' date=\'May 7 2005, 09:36 AM\']I think all of the color choices will be used up by July. New, second runs of 'Dodgeball' may be running on Saturday nights by then like last summer.
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What a complete unfounded hypothesis.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'May 7 2005, 09:59 AM\'][quote name=\'PaulD\' date=\'May 7 2005, 09:36 AM\']I think all of the color choices will be used up by July. New, second runs of 'Dodgeball' may be running on Saturday nights by then like last summer.
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What a complete unfounded hypothesis.
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Recenty in the daily paper here there was a local story about dodgeball leagues. Ian Valentine was quoted that 'Extreme Dodgeball II' is comming to GSN in July.
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[quote name=\'PaulD\' date=\'May 7 2005, 11:11 AM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'May 7 2005, 09:59 AM\'][quote name=\'PaulD\' date=\'May 7 2005, 09:36 AM\']I think all of the color choices will be used up by July. New, second runs of 'Dodgeball' may be running on Saturday nights by then like last summer.
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What a complete unfounded hypothesis.
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Recenty in the daily paper here there was a local story about dodgeball leagues. Ian Valentine was quoted that 'Extreme Dodgeball II' is comming to GSN in July.
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They taped the shows this past week with the Championship being taped today.
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[quote name=\'PaulD\' date=\'May 7 2005, 09:36 AM\']I think all of the color choices will be used up by July. New, second runs of 'Dodgeball' may be running on Saturday nights by then like last summer.
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I didn't know GSN had such a small library. :)
*just joking*
I'm sure that all of us on this board can rhyme off 20 colour game shows that GSN could show on Game Show Saturday Night without even breaking a sweat. Heck, many of us could write down 52 different classic colour game shows that would keep that Saturday night busy for at least 1 year (although many of them would be different versions of the same game show and many of them would be one that GSN problably could air but haven't in a long time).
I guess if they can show a FF 94 Dawson ep at Halloween, anything is possible :)
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GSN could also air Saturday night marathons of the same shows again, but with different episodes. But I think it would be cool to see some shows that aren't already somewhere on the current GSN schedule.
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[quote name=\'michaellinn\' date=\'May 7 2005, 10:13 PM\']GSN could also air Saturday night marathons of the same shows again, but with different episodes. But I think it would be cool to see some shows that aren't already somewhere on the current GSN schedule.
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Ohhh, like another MG marathon with a "Burns and cuts" episode thrown in? It would be nice to see but I'm sure GSN has enough game shows in their massive library to not have to repeat different shows of the same series for months at a time.
Just look at Treasure Hunt. It's been 2-3 years since the last TH marathon on GSN.
It's been a while since Hot tsssss Potato was run into the ground as well. Rating would problably go higher if they could lease TPIR and FF94 eps for a one night stand. Oh right... GSN is trying to save $$$. Well, let's enjoy what we have then :)
Saussage
Vanna White having a bad day turns into the letter puncher :)
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[quote name=\'saussage\' date=\'May 8 2005, 12:10 AM\']Just look at Treasure Hunt. It's been 2-3 years since the last TH marathon on GSN.
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4 years actually. Last aired in April 2001.
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'May 8 2005, 05:54 AM\'][quote name=\'saussage\' date=\'May 8 2005, 12:10 AM\']Just look at Treasure Hunt. It's been 2-3 years since the last TH marathon on GSN.
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4 years actually. Last aired in April 2001.
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I feel old all of a sudden :)
Wow. It doesn't feel like it was that long ago.
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4 years actually. Last aired in April 2001
If GSN's worried about ratings for some of these older shows, they could lease a few episodes for a Saturday night block and see how the ratings hold up - that could lead to such shows as "Joker's Wild" returning to the schedule if the ratings are decent.
Just a thought...
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[quote name=\'saussage\' date=\'May 7 2005, 11:10 PM\'][quote name=\'michaellinn\' date=\'May 7 2005, 10:13 PM\']GSN could also air Saturday night marathons of the same shows again, but with different episodes. But I think it would be cool to see some shows that aren't already somewhere on the current GSN schedule.
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Ohhh, like another MG marathon with a "Burns and cuts" episode thrown in? It would be nice to see but I'm sure GSN has enough game shows in their massive library to not have to repeat different shows of the same series for months at a time.
Just look at Treasure Hunt. It's been 2-3 years since the last TH marathon on GSN.
It's been a while since Hot tsssss Potato was run into the ground as well. Rating would problably go higher if they could lease TPIR and FF94 eps for a one night stand. Oh right... GSN is trying to save $$$. Well, let's enjoy what we have then :)
Saussage
Vanna White having a bad day turns into the letter puncher :)
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Yes! I didn't have GSN during the "Hot Potato" and "Treasure Hunt" days (although I watched those when they had originally aired way back when). Bring 'em on! :)
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[quote name=\'saussage\' date=\'May 7 2005, 11:10 PM\']Just look at Treasure Hunt. It's been 2-3 years since the last TH marathon on GSN.
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They haven't asked me about my Game Shows '75 (http://\"http://www.curtalliaume.com/gameshow.html\")salute: The Joker's Wild, Now You See It, Match Game '75, Tattletales, The $10,000 Pyramid, To Tell the Truth, What's My Line?, and whatever usable rarities and single-use lease episodes they can dig up. You've got 7-1/2 months to do this, guys - I'm happy to host for airfare.
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As someone whose cable system didn't get GSN (or, as it was formerly known, the Game Show Network) until a few years ago, I yearn to see some of the super-rarities that have been talked about in forums like these.
I'd love to see that lone surviving episode of "Eye Guess" known to exist.
Not to mention that rare videotaped episode of the original edition of "The Match Game."
And how about those one or two episodes of the original "Jeopardy!" with Art Fleming that escaped NBC's destruction?
Now THAT would make for a memorable Saturday evening.
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[quote name=\'saussage\' date=\'May 7 2005, 11:10 PM\']Rating would problably go higher if they could lease TPIR and FF94 eps for a one night stand.[/quote]
I'm just curious...what is so great about Family Feud's '94 syndie edition? I doubt the ratings would jump at all.
and whatever usable rarities and single-use lease episodes they can dig up.
Lest we forget about "The Diamond Head Game".
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They haven't asked me about my Game Shows '75salute: The Joker's Wild, Now You See It, Match Game '75, Tattletales, The $10,000 Pyramid, To Tell the Truth, What's My Line?, and whatever usable rarities and single-use lease episodes they can dig up
It's all possible, in theory. At least one episode of all of those shows exists.
--Jamie
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They haven't asked me about my Game Shows '75 salute: The Joker's Wild, Now You See It, Match Game '75, Tattletales, The $10,000 Pyramid, To Tell the Truth, What's My Line?, and whatever usable rarities and single-use lease episodes they can dig up
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That's why I picked those, and I forgot all about The Diamond Head Game. GSN has run all of these over the last few years except Diamond Head.
Others (correct me if I'm wrong):
GSN Has Rights, But Little or Nothing to Show: Blank Check, Dealer's Choice, Gambit, High Rollers, Jackpot, Jeopardy, The Magnificent Marble Machine, The New Treasure Hunt, Password All-Stars/Password, Showoffs, Wheel of Fortune, Winning Streak. Note this refers to the shows of that era; it's not like GSN's lacking in current eps of WoF.
GSN Would Have to Lease Rights for an Episode: Concentration, Don Adams' Screen Test, Hollywood Squares, Let's Make a Deal, Masquerade Party, The Price Is Right, Split Second, Sports Challenge, Three for the Money. I'm operating under the assumption that Hatos-Hall has episodes of all their programs available, which may not be the case.
No Rights, and Probably No Episodes Either: Almost Anything Goes, The Big Showdown, Celebrity Bowling, Celebrity Sweepstakes, Cross-Wits, Give-n-Take, The Money Maze, Musical Chairs, Name That Tune, The Neighbors, Rhyme and Reason, Spin-Off, Truth or Consequences, You Don't Say.
I was inspired by something TV Land did a few years back, running ABC's Friday night lineup of The Brady Bunch, The Partridge Family, The Odd Couple, Room 222, and Love American Style, and I believe they had to clear some rights themselves. (Locally, a Chicago station running nothin' but reruns has a CBS Saturday night lineup of All in the Family, The Jeffersons, The Mary Tyler Moore Show, The Bob Newhart Show, and The Carol Burnett Show running seven nights a week.)
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What?!?? No Blankety Blanks? A salute to 75 would be cool. I wonder if anybody has asked Dick Cavett about "The Money Maze." During the election, CSPAN was running a mid-70's ABC "Dick Cavett Show" with John Kerry as guest. The tape was in great condition, so maybe MM might still be in a vault somewhere. At any rate, Andy Warhol found it worth taping. Guess Andy didn't find TBS as interesting. This marathon is doable, maybe as a co-production with the Museum of Broadcasting.
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[quote name=\'calliaume\' date=\'May 10 2005, 09:05 AM\']
GSN Has Rights, But Little or Nothing to Show: Blank Check, Dealer's Choice, Gambit, High Rollers, Jackpot, Jeopardy, The Magnificent Marble Machine, The New Treasure Hunt, Password All-Stars/Password, Showoffs, Wheel of Fortune, Winning Streak. Note this refers to the shows of that era; it's not like GSN's lacking in current eps of WoF.
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I don't think they'd have the rights to the Heatter-Quigley shows on this list.
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Admittedly obscure -- but when I first received GSN, they had "The Diamond Head Game" on their schedule. So, why not a Saturday night of five eps of "Dealer's Choice" from the same producers?
Using Matt Vasgersian's terminology, "casino-themed programming" is increasing across the cable dial and WSoBJ, "Poker Royale", et al, are among GSN's best originals over the last year or so.
Also, with J!'s UToC heading into the homestretch, how about a marathon of one of Alex Trebek's pre-J! shows -- "Double Dare"? Images of Alex's 'fro fit nicely into those "Saturday Night Classics" promo templates with the funky music and mirror ball.
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I don't think they'd have the rights to the Heatter-Quigley shows on this list.
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There were talks of a Sony-MGM merger to take effect April 1, did that not happen?
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'May 10 2005, 10:20 AM\'][quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'May 10 2005, 10:01 AM\']
I don't think they'd have the rights to the Heatter-Quigley shows on this list.
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I'm not sure whether that happened or not. Even then, would GSN even think about airing the game shows that might be acquired in the Sony-MGM deal?
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'May 10 2005, 10:20 AM\'][quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'May 10 2005, 10:01 AM\']
I don't think they'd have the rights to the Heatter-Quigley shows on this list.
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There were talks of a Sony-MGM merger to take effect April 1, did that not happen?
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Yes, it did happen. (http://\"http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/4448449.stm\") Don't know if they'd be able to find any airable episodes, however.
And I just plain missed Blankety Blanks - not that there are many episodes of it, anyway.
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I don't think they'd have the rights to the Heatter-Quigley shows on this list.
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"The Amityville Horror" was technically the final MGM release. (I assume that the United Artists art house nameplate will continue, unless they're going to merge it into Screen Gems or Sony Classics.) Would've-been-MGM releases "Madison" and "Jiminy Glick in Lalawood" were released with the MGM logo edited out of the front titles and "distributed by MGM Distribution" cut off the end titles. (It's still in small print in the ads, along with the MGM web site URL.)
In addition, Sony now has control of "American Gladiators," which I still think might have a good chance to be seen on GSN.
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[quote name=\'michaellinn\' date=\'May 8 2005, 10:19 PM\'][quote name=\'saussage\' date=\'May 7 2005, 11:10 PM\'][quote name=\'michaellinn\' date=\'May 7 2005, 10:13 PM\']GSN could also air Saturday night marathons of the same shows again, but with different episodes. But I think it would be cool to see some shows that aren't already somewhere on the current GSN schedule.
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Ohhh, like another MG marathon with a "Burns and cuts" episode thrown in? It would be nice to see but I'm sure GSN has enough game shows in their massive library to not have to repeat different shows of the same series for months at a time.
Just look at Treasure Hunt. It's been 2-3 years since the last TH marathon on GSN.
It's been a while since Hot tsssss Potato was run into the ground as well. Rating would problably go higher if they could lease TPIR and FF94 eps for a one night stand. Oh right... GSN is trying to save $$$. Well, let's enjoy what we have then :)
Saussage
Vanna White having a bad day turns into the letter puncher :)
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Yes! I didn't have GSN during the "Hot Potato" and "Treasure Hunt" days (although I watched those when they had originally aired way back when). Bring 'em on! :)
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I didn't get GSN until 2002 and hopefully that more of the classics will air now and so far after more than a month since the classics returned, so far, so good!!
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I'm suspicious of the story that this series was totally destroyed. In fact, I'm suspicious about the total destruction of most '60s and '70s series', period.
I mean geez, if even a second episode of Number Please exists, anything's possible!
As far as CS, from what I've seen, this could be considered in the "they would have to lease rights for an episode" category.
I believe it's the Museum of TV & Radio that has one episode, two pilots exist in UCLA's holdings, and then there's 1976 broadcast quality final episode,
:cheap plug: which is to be featured on Page O' Clips starting Sunday! :end cheap plug:
Given the quality, the master tape certainly exists. Perhaps a stash of episodes are sitting in a vault somewhere. Who knows.
Spin-Off
Wasn't this series found along with CBS TJW?
--Jamie
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Fiono Coyne\' date=\'May 10 2005, 09:50 PM\']Wasn't this series found along with CBS TJW?
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I seem to recall it was, but there was little to no interest in it at the time.
Heck, probably still, no interest.
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No Rights, and Probably No Episodes Either: Celebrity Sweepstakes
I'm suspicious of the story that this series was totally destroyed. In fact, I'm suspicious about the total destruction of most '60s and '70s series', period.
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I've been lucky enough to have occasional contact with Jim MacKrell, Ralph Andrews, and a representative of Burt Sugarman over the years. MacKrell had just one episode from 1975, and Andrews and Sugarman didn't seem to have anything.
You're right, of course; they could be around. But it's a big country, and that stash will be tough to find. (I know they're not in my apartment, if that's any help.)
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Fiono Coyne\' date=\'May 10 2005, 09:50 PM\']No Rights, and Probably No Episodes Either: Celebrity Sweepstakes
I believe it's the Museum of TV & Radio that has one episode, two pilots exist in UCLA's holdings, and then there's 1976 broadcast quality final episode,
:cheap plug: which is to be featured on Page O' Clips starting Sunday! :end cheap plug:
Given the quality, the master tape certainly exists. Perhaps a stash of episodes are sitting in a vault somewhere. Who knows.
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I believe the Museum is now up to three Celebrity Sweepstakes episodes.
--Mike