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Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: dizzy on May 04, 2005, 01:33:15 AM
It's difficult to be a Game Show fan and not like The Price Is Right. However I just found a photo which made me think back to when the show was truly at it's best. Take a look at the following link and lets all reminisce together.

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Dizzy
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on May 04, 2005, 02:47:46 AM
[quote name=\'dizzy\' date=\'May 4 2005, 12:33 AM\']Take a look at the following link and lets all reminisce together.
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And then, why don't we make a circle, hold hands, make smores, and sing campfire songs?

"Together" implies that everyone agrees with you when the best "era" was for Price.
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It's difficult to be a Game Show fan and not like The Price Is Right.
And why not?  That's like saying it's difficult to be a baseball fan, and not like the Yankees--because they have longevity.
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: dizzy on May 04, 2005, 03:24:49 AM
"Together" implies that everyone agrees with you when the best "era" was for Price.
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  No sorry Charlie, you are wrong. "TOGETHER" means let's all look at the PICTURE. How you twisted that into meaning that everyone had to agree with it being the best era is beyond me. Although I do think many here would agree that it was.

  Why don't you tell us your favorite era while you are here. I would love to hear about your favorite Doug Davidson moment.  Don't forget to bring the smores! ;-)



Dizzy
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: Craig Karlberg on May 04, 2005, 04:23:33 AM
That photo looked like it was taken sometime around 1976 when Barker had black haair.  Boy, those models sure looked pretty back then.

Since dizzy brought up favoritte eras for Price, mine would be the nid-late 80's when Barker would often chat with his Beauties after the 4th pricing game.  You never know what kind of discussion was afoot when they got together & it usually lasted about a minute or two.  Great stuff that was.
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: Jimmy Owen on May 04, 2005, 07:12:07 AM
For me, the best era was the Anitra era.
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: Ian Wallis on May 04, 2005, 09:03:39 AM
I'll say the '70s.  That's when we were introduced to all the pricing games, had it expand to an hour, and it was still young and fresh.  I really enjoy watching old episodes from that time.
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: SamJ93 on May 04, 2005, 09:40:00 AM
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'May 4 2005, 02:47 AM\'][quote name=\'dizzy\' date=\'May 4 2005, 12:33 AM\']Take a look at the following link and lets all reminisce together.
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And then, why don't we make a circle, hold hands, make smores, and sing campfire songs?

"Together" implies that everyone agrees with you when the best "era" was for Price.
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It's difficult to be a Game Show fan and not like The Price Is Right.
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It's fun to be a contrarian, it is.

I've only been around for the latter half of Price's run (completely missing Johnny O's tenure), so I'll say for me the best era (the one I reminisce about most) was the early to mid-90's.  Rod was still in top form, and even though Holly and Dian had left, Chantal made up for them, IMHO.  The show also hadn't become seriously affected by the demand for more advertising time yet--there was more time for Bob to joke around and have fun, rather than just "Hiwelcometotheshowgreattohaveyouhavehere'swhatyoucanwinnow" as happens when the show runs short on time (which is often).

--Sam
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: BrandonFG on May 04, 2005, 12:39:13 PM
[quote name=\'Craig Karlberg\' date=\'May 4 2005, 03:23 AM\']That photo looked like it was taken sometime around 1976 when Barker had black haair.  Boy, those models sure looked pretty back then.

Since dizzy brought up favoritte eras for Price, mine would be the nid-late 80's when Barker would often chat with his Beauties after the 4th pricing game.  You never know what kind of discussion was afoot when they got together & it usually lasted about a minute or two.  Great stuff that was.
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Bob's face was starting to develop wrinkles, more than he had in 1976, when he looked somewhat young. I'd say that pic is somewhere between 1982 and 1984, esp. judging by Holly's frizzy hair (I think it was stylish in the early-80s).
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: aaron sica on May 04, 2005, 12:59:48 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'May 4 2005, 12:39 PM\']
Bob's face was starting to develop wrinkles, more than he had in 1976, when he looked somewhat young. I'd say that pic is somewhere between 1982 and 1984, esp. judging by Holly's frizzy hair (I think it was stylish in the early-80s).
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Definitely frizzy in the early '80s....When GSN had its rotating Price shows (Monday was a 1975/1976 show, Tuesdays 1978/1979, Wednesdays 1981/1982, Thursdays 1986/1987, Fridays 1991/1992), Holly's hair was always frizzy on Wednesdays. :)

And with no credit crunches back then, we always got to hear Johnny say "Stay tuned for 'Search for Tomorrow', one half hour from now, on most of these CBS Stations.."

Ah, memories..
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: SRIV94 on May 04, 2005, 01:40:48 PM
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'May 4 2005, 01:47 AM\'][quote name=\'dizzy\' date=\'May 4 2005, 12:33 AM\']Take a look at the following link and lets all reminisce together.
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Just had to let you know, that line made my day.  Can't quite give it "line of the day" consideration, but I like it just the same.

Doug -- starting the countdown to 1200
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: Don Howard on May 04, 2005, 01:58:33 PM
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'May 4 2005, 11:59 AM\']And with no credit crunches back then, we always got to hear Johnny say "Stay tuned for 'Search for Tomorrow', one half hour from now, on most of these CBS Stations.."
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Gentleman that Johnny Olson was, he'd would say "Please stay tuned...". At least for that show he did. Perhaps SfT was beginning its fall from the ratings radar screen and CBS requested the "please". Or maybe I have no blessed idea why the "please" was inserted and am bluffing.
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: Ian Wallis on May 04, 2005, 02:57:46 PM
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Gentleman that Johnny Olson was, he'd would say "Please stay tuned...". At least for that show he did. Perhaps SfT was beginning its fall from the ratings radar screen and CBS requested the "please". Or maybe I have no blessed idea why the "please" was inserted and am bluffing.


My best guess for the "Please" is what the show he was plugging wasn't coming up next.  All the other shows they did that for immediately followed the show that was concluding...but "Search for Tomorrow" had the local half-hour news to go through before it came on.  Maybe they figured more people would wait the extra half-hour if he said "Please"  :)
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: chris319 on May 04, 2005, 02:58:02 PM
Holly's hair is grounds for a lawsuit.
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: dizzy on May 04, 2005, 03:05:05 PM
[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'May 4 2005, 01:58 PM\']Holly's hair is grounds for a lawsuit.
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LOL!!!  Now that should be the Line Of The Day!  :-)



Dizzy
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: SRIV94 on May 04, 2005, 03:08:31 PM
[quote name=\'dizzy\' date=\'May 4 2005, 02:05 PM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'May 4 2005, 01:58 PM\']Holly's hair is grounds for a lawsuit.
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LOL!!!  Now that should be the Line Of The Day!  :-)
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I thought mods weren't eligible.  :)

Doug -- and the countdown to 1200 continues
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: ChuckNet on May 04, 2005, 08:42:53 PM
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Gentleman that Johnny Olson was, he'd would say "Please stay tuned...". At least for that show he did. Perhaps SfT was beginning its fall from the ratings radar screen and CBS requested the "please". Or maybe I have no blessed idea why the "please" was inserted and am bluffing.

LOL...I speculated about that being the reason on ATGS way back when. :-) OTOH, when SFT first moved to 2:30, Johnny originally plugged Y&R (which took over its old 12:30 slot) during TPiR's credits for a few wks, before CBS dropped the "stay tuned for..." end-of-show plugs entirely, and it was also preceded w/"please".

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: TimK2003 on May 04, 2005, 09:18:20 PM
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'May 4 2005, 01:47 AM\'][quote name=\'dizzy\' date=\'May 4 2005, 12:33 AM\']Take a look at the following link and lets all reminisce together.
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Plin-ko-ya, my Lord, Plin-ko-ya!!!

Seriously, I'd have to go with the early 80's.  That was the era when people were beginning to forget that Price used to be only a half hour, they added the bonuses to the wheel, there was idle chat between Bob & the contestants and Bob & his beauties, the younger college-aged people were starting to make up the majority of the audience, there was a nice stable of games by then and some of the older games were starting to get overhauled to reflect $10,000+ vehicles.
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: saussage on May 04, 2005, 10:15:25 PM
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'May 4 2005, 01:47 AM\'][quote name=\'dizzy\' date=\'May 4 2005, 12:33 AM\']Take a look at the following link and lets all reminisce together.
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I like the earlier days of TPIR. The colours they used, the gfx when contestants are spinning the big wheel (triangle pointer thing with contestant's face inside :) ), and of course Barker's beauties that we all grew up with (by the way, Holly needs a haircut :) ).

Today, the colour scheme I find is pallatable at best (but at least better than the brown, gold and yellowish set from the early 70's). The beauties seem to be on a fixed time contract which renewels are never made (comparing to Holly, Janice and company, the new Barker's beauties are there for a fraction of the time or is it just me?). The thing they do with the camera on the big wheel makes me nautious when the wheel is just about ready to stop. Heck, even removing the giant calculator from check-out was disappointing to me which I though at one time was so stupid to have.

Maybe TPIR is showing its age a bit. I would rather think that maybe too much colour tinkering was done to the set and not enough tinkering is done to the pricing games (as in improving pricing games in looks or in gameplay) and to make new pricing games (or as in some cases, the return of long forgotten or lesser played pricing games).

In my opinion, 3 of the top 10 pricing games that I find are not played much or not played at all that should be in the lineup would be:

1) Now or Then (always loved it as a kid).
2) Superball (change of pace when the contestant can actually physically participate and could easily affect the outcome in a pricing game like the Race Game and Hole in one).
3) Super Saver (I know it was retired due to electronics problems or something like that but I'm sure somebody could've fixed it or revamp the pricing game on a new set).

Feel free to add to the list if you wish. (like I had to say that :) )

As a bonus question, who would be against changing the "Big Wheel"? I'm sure Bob Barker gets worried at times if someone would hit their head when the contestants spin.

Ahhh... the memories! Are you'z awake now? :)
Damn, I burnt my smores :)
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: chris319 on May 04, 2005, 10:25:51 PM
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Gentleman that Johnny Olson was, he'd would say "Please stay tuned...". At least for that show he did. Perhaps SfT was beginning its fall from the ratings radar screen and CBS requested the "please". Or maybe I have no blessed idea why the "please" was inserted and am bluffing.
Pro that Johnny Olson was, he read the copy that was placed before him -- even if it ended with "please and thank you with a cherry on top".
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: dizzy on May 04, 2005, 10:33:31 PM
Someone mentioned to much Color tinkering over the years. I tend to agree. As much as I like the color BLUE, I found the Red carpet to look much better on Television. The blue they have now is way to dark for the set. I would love to have it in my bedroom though. :-)


Dizzy
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: clemon79 on May 04, 2005, 10:35:54 PM
[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'May 4 2005, 07:25 PM\']Pro that Johnny Olson was, he read the copy that was placed before him -- even if it ended with "please and thank you with a cherry on top".
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"We've replaced Johnny Olson's ad copy with Ebonics. Let's see if he notices."

"Aaaaand if you would be a contestant on The Price Is Right, then you need to be here in our studio audience, and Johnny's gonna tell you to do that, right, Johnny?"

"Fo shizzle, Bizzle!"
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: chris319 on May 04, 2005, 10:43:23 PM
Bizzle Barker has a ring to it.
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on May 04, 2005, 11:00:04 PM
[quote name=\'saussage\' date=\'May 4 2005, 10:15 PM\']The beauties seem to be on a fixed time contract which renewels are never made (comparing to Holly, Janice and company, the new Barker's beauties are there for
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Actually, there are quite a few models who have appeared many, many times -- just not all at one stretch.

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http://golden-road.net/modules.php?name=FA...+Game+Notes#105 (http://\"http://golden-road.net/modules.php?name=FAQ&myfaq=yes&id_cat=7&categories=Pricing+Game+Notes#105\")

$uper $aver's retirement had nothing to do with its set.
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: Kevin Prather on May 04, 2005, 11:46:22 PM
*pictures a 70-some-odd year old man saying "Fo' shizzle, Bizzle."*

*dies laughing*
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: cmjb13 on May 05, 2005, 12:53:34 AM
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'May 4 2005, 11:00 PM\']$uper $aver's retirement had nothing to do with its set.
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Can't understand why you couldn't explain the reasoning here instead of providing a link, but for those who'd like to know here....

From my 10/20/03 post:

"Super Saver was retired because of technical issues and there was an issue with Game practices where Bob apparently didn't explain the game correctly and decided it wasn't worth the hassle to play it any more."
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: saussage on May 05, 2005, 09:01:52 AM
[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'May 4 2005, 11:53 PM\']"Super Saver was retired because of technical issues and there was an issue with Game practices where Bob apparently didn't explain the game correctly and decided it wasn't worth the hassle to play it any more."
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Well, I guess I didn't do enough research then. I still loved that game. I find it a bit hard to swallow though that the game was shelved due to saying the rules incorrectly. Other games could easily be retired if the rules were not all said correctly or certain parts omitted.

A perfect example would be the Dice Game. If nobody said that there are no 0's in the price of the car, the contestant could complain that they wouldn't have said lower when they rolled a 2. (an yes, under the old rules, a 0 was a valid number in the original dice game. Thank goodness that rule was changed to have only numbers that you could roll that are valid in the price).

Super saver could still make it.. have simplified rules in point form on the game itself. I'm sure if there's going to be a replacement for Bob Barker, it would not only help the contestant know what to do but as well as the host. Remembering the pricing games and the rules is no easy task. Just listen to the Tom Kennedy interview (although Tom did an excellent job under the circumstances in my opinion).

Actually, are there any pricing games with any type of rules or guidelines written on them? The only one that comes to mind would be "Hit Me" where it says "House hits on 16 and stays on 17".
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Post by: jmangin on May 05, 2005, 09:23:49 AM
That's just the point though--Bob didn't explain the rules to Super Saver completely, so the contestant didn't know they could still win had they picked the one product that was marked up instead of down.

For Dice Game, Bob always says there are no zeroes and no numbers above six.  It's not fair to compare the Super Saver debacle against Dice Game since the same issue has not happened for both games.
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Post by: SamJ93 on May 05, 2005, 10:13:40 AM
[quote name=\'saussage\' date=\'May 5 2005, 09:01 AM\']Actually, are there any pricing games with any type of rules or guidelines written on them? The only one that comes to mind would be "Hit Me" where it says "House hits on 16 and stays on 17".
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Check Game also has "At Least $5000 But Not Over $6000" inscribed just below its name.  Yet that still doesn't help clueless contestants, ostensibly...

--Sam
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Post by: zachhoran on May 05, 2005, 10:16:36 AM
[quote name=\'SamJ93\' date=\'May 5 2005, 09:13 AM\'][quote name=\'saussage\' date=\'May 5 2005, 09:01 AM\']Actually, are there any pricing games with any type of rules or guidelines written on them? The only one that comes to mind would be "Hit Me" where it says "House hits on 16 and stays on 17".
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Check Game also has "At Least $5000 But Not Over $6000" inscribed just below its name.  Yet that still doesn't help clueless contestants, ostensibly...

--Sam
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The defunct Add 'Em Up used to have the total of the digits in the car price on the gameboard. The defunct It's Optional used to have the difference between the prices of the two cars and the maximum number of options one could pick.
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Post by: TimK2003 on May 05, 2005, 10:18:20 AM
[quote name=\'saussage\' date=\'May 5 2005, 08:01 AM\']Actually, are there any pricing games with any type of rules or guidelines written on them? The only one that comes to mind would be "Hit Me" where it says "House hits on 16 and stays on 17".
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To some extent...

Range Game -- Anything within the red wins -- that was kinda self-explanatory.

Spelling Bee  -- There is a listing of how many C's, A's R's and CAR's on the board.

Punch A Bunch -- Also has a listing of all the possible $$$ amounts.

Super Ball -- Showed which hole won what, and what ball won what prize(s)


There were probably a few others as well.
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: BrandonFG on May 05, 2005, 10:24:32 AM
[quote name=\'saussage\' date=\'May 5 2005, 08:01 AM\']Actually, are there any pricing games with any type of rules or guidelines written on them? The only one that comes to mind would be "Hit Me" where it says "House hits on 16 and stays on 17".
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Pick-A-Pair and Pick A Number are pretty self-explanatory. ;-)
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Post by: CarShark on May 05, 2005, 05:26:52 PM
[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'May 4 2005, 11:53 PM\']From my 10/20/03 post:

"Super Saver was retired because of technical issues and there was an issue with Game practices where Bob apparently didn't explain the game correctly and decided it wasn't worth the hassle to play it any more."
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I guess I'm not really satisfied by either reason. 1) Why would they retire a game just because the rules were expained wrong one time? Wouldn't it be better just to make sure that he says it every time? 2) They've had mechanical problems with so many of the games, so why would Super Saver's make it not worth playing at all?
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Post by: johnnya2k3 on May 05, 2005, 05:40:16 PM
Remember when how Bob used to start the show with a brief monologue before getting to the first IUFB? That's gone and we have to settle with that "Welcome to The Price is Right; I thank you for that wonderful welcome; here's our first IUFB today!" crap we have now.

Or what about Bob's banters with Johnny (and later Rod) before the sixth pricing game? Or even Bob's chit-chats with the contestants on Contestants' Row and the models? Or how they used to give away foreign cars? They're all gone as well.

I guess TPIR was at its best in the '70s to early '90s.

Jonathan Allen
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Post by: chris319 on May 05, 2005, 06:38:51 PM
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Bob didn't explain the rules to Super Saver completely, so the contestant didn't know they could still win had they picked the one product that was marked up instead of down.
Something is amiss if they can't even get the emcee language for a new game right.
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Post by: CarShark on May 05, 2005, 06:46:33 PM
[quote name=\'johnnya2k3\' date=\'May 5 2005, 04:40 PM\']Remember when how Bob used to start the show with a brief monologue before getting to the first IUFB? That's gone and we have to settle with that "Welcome to The Price is Right; I thank you for that wonderful welcome; here's our first IUFB today!" crap we have now.

Or what about Bob's banters with Johnny (and later Rod) before the sixth pricing game? Or even Bob's chit-chats with the contestants on Contestants' Row and the models? Or how they used to give away foreign cars? They're all gone as well.
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Most of that is because they don't have as much time, but the foreign car thing was something that the TPiR staff did of their own Accord. :)
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Post by: The Pyramids on May 05, 2005, 07:08:44 PM
[quote name=\'johnnya2k3\' date=\'May 5 2005, 04:40 PM\']Remember when how Bob used to start the show with a brief monologue before getting to the first IUFB? That's gone and we have to settle with that "Welcome to The Price is Right; I thank you for that wonderful welcome; here's our first IUFB today!" crap we have now.

Or what about Bob's banters with Johnny (and later Rod) before the sixth pricing game? Or even Bob's chit-chats with the contestants on Contestants' Row and the models? Or how they used to give away foreign cars? They're all gone as well.

I guess TPIR was at its best in the '70s to early '90s.

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I suspect that is beacuse the running time for each 'TPIR' had been shaved like everthing else on tv over the last 10 years. In order to till have 6 prcing games, two showcase showdowns and finally two show cases something had to go. I really don't think any falut to lays at CBS and Freemantle. Its just the way economics are.
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Post by: dizzy on May 05, 2005, 07:13:44 PM
Does anybody here have a running tally on how much actual show time there is now compared to an episode from 1977? Exactly how much less "SHOW" is there?


Dizzy
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Post by: TLEberle on May 05, 2005, 08:28:43 PM
I think an episode of TPIR clocks in at a bit under 40 minutes of total game play.  Which is on average 7 minutes more game per half hour than Jeopardy or Wheel.
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Post by: cmjb13 on May 05, 2005, 08:34:20 PM
[quote name=\'CarShark\' date=\'May 5 2005, 05:26 PM\']I guess I'm not really satisfied by either reason.
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You don't have to be. Those are the facts.

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1) Why would they retire a game just because the rules were expained wrong one time? Wouldn't it be better just to make sure that he says it every time?
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Post by: Steve Gavazzi on May 05, 2005, 09:27:49 PM
[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'May 5 2005, 12:53 AM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'May 4 2005, 11:00 PM\']$uper $aver's retirement had nothing to do with its set.
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Can't understand why you couldn't explain the reasoning here instead of providing a link,
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Because I'd already written the explanation once when I put it on that page, and I didn't feel like doing it again.

I was going to respond to CarShark, too, but I think you've handled that quite well already. :-)
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Post by: saussage on May 05, 2005, 10:04:47 PM
[quote name=\'CarShark\' date=\'May 5 2005, 04:26 PM\'][quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'May 4 2005, 11:53 PM\']From my 10/20/03 post:

"Super Saver was retired because of technical issues and there was an issue with Game practices where Bob apparently didn't explain the game correctly and decided it wasn't worth the hassle to play it any more."
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I guess I'm not really satisfied by either reason. 1) Why would they retire a game just because the rules were expained wrong one time? Wouldn't it be better just to make sure that he says it every time? 2) They've had mechanical problems with so many of the games, so why would Super Saver's make it not worth playing at all?
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Sounds more like someone had issues with the game for a while and the rules not being said correctly as well as the mechanical problems put the nails in the $uper $aver coffin.

I'm sure if Pick-a-Pair can make a comeback due to issues, so can $uper $aver (the issue with the marry-go-round and Bob being able to see all the prices before they were revealed).

[quote name=\'jmangin\' date=\'May 5 2005, 08:23 AM\']For Dice Game, Bob always says there are no zeroes and no numbers above six.  It's not fair to compare the Super Saver debacle against Dice Game since the same issue has not happened for both games.
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Bad example or not, the Dice Game example with the 0's was one that never happened, but one that could easily happen.

Regarding about Pick-a-Pair, I loved the marry-go-round but I am very happy that the game set was revamped... the game took wayyyy too long waiting for the prizes to come up.
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Post by: Steve Gavazzi on May 05, 2005, 10:30:18 PM
[quote name=\'saussage\' date=\'May 5 2005, 10:04 PM\']I'm sure if Pick-a-Pair can make a comeback due to issues, so can $uper $aver (the issue with the marry-go-round and Bob being able to see all the prices before they were revealed).
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You obviously read my explanation of Bob screwing up the rules.  Would you care to actually pay it some attention?
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: dizzy on May 05, 2005, 10:39:13 PM
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'May 5 2005, 07:28 PM\']I think an episode of TPIR clocks in at a bit under 40 minutes of total game play.  Which is on average 7 minutes more game per half hour than Jeopardy or Wheel.
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     Yeah, but I would like to know the running time of an episode of The Price Is Right (minus commercials) in 2005 compared to an episode of The Price Is Right (minus commercials) in 1977.



Dizzy
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: aaron sica on May 05, 2005, 10:44:59 PM
[quote name=\'dizzy\' date=\'May 5 2005, 10:39 PM\']
     Yeah, but I would like to know the running time of an episode of The Price Is Right (minus commercials) in 2005 compared to an episode of The Price Is Right (minus commercials) in 1977.



Dizzy
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This sort of reminds me of something which threw me off back when GSN was airing reruns of TPiR.....I remember watching an episode from 1977 and there was NO COMMERCIAL between the showcase bids and the showcase reveal.....It left me wondering where the commercials were placed for the rest of the show...
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: zachhoran on May 05, 2005, 10:46:54 PM
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'May 5 2005, 09:44 PM\']

This sort of reminds me of something which threw me off back when GSN was airing reruns of TPiR.....I remember watching an episode from 1977 and there was NO COMMERCIAL between the showcase bids and the showcase reveal.....It left me wondering where the commercials were placed for the rest of the show...
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The other commercials during that period occur when they occur now, after each PG and SCSD.
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: saussage on May 05, 2005, 11:39:26 PM
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'May 5 2005, 09:30 PM\'][quote name=\'saussage\' date=\'May 5 2005, 10:04 PM\']I'm sure if Pick-a-Pair can make a comeback due to issues, so can $uper $aver (the issue with the marry-go-round and Bob being able to see all the prices before they were revealed).
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You obviously read my explanation of Bob screwing up the rules.  Would you care to actually pay it some attention?
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Bob screwing up the rules vs Bob screwing up the game: it's still Bob screwing up something that affected gameplay. The whole issue is whether a game should be retired because of a flaw or screw-up (or as I called it, an issue). I believe that $uper $aver given the same treatment as Pick-A-Pair would still be in circulation today. Whether it's a whoops with Bob's rules or an issue with the game, second chances should be given. I'm sure we can all agree that $uper $aver was a pretty good pricing game.

As far as proper comparisons, I do not recall any other pricing game that Bob messed up the rules with which eventually resulted in the game being out of circulation so no other proper comparison can be made. I do not want to confuse with confusing games which were retired because I'm sure people can recall many of them (Double Digits comes to mind). It wasn't much about Bob screwing around the rules but more like "How confusing do you want me to say the rules".  :) It doesn't say anywhere on the golden road web site whether Double Digits was retired due to confusion but I'm sure from the TPIR tapes we've seen of this game, I wouldn't have been suprized if it was a factor why it got retired.

Deep down inside, I'd just like to see $uper $aver back.
I'm tired NOWK :)
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: clemon79 on May 05, 2005, 11:52:52 PM
[quote name=\'saussage\' date=\'May 5 2005, 08:39 PM\']Deep down inside, I'd just like to see $uper $aver back.
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Yes. We get it. And you can keep repeating it until you turn into a pink fuzzy rabbit, but it's not going to happen.
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: saussage on May 06, 2005, 12:22:38 AM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'May 5 2005, 10:52 PM\'][quote name=\'saussage\' date=\'May 5 2005, 08:39 PM\']Deep down inside, I'd just like to see $uper $aver back.
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Yes. We get it. And you can keep repeating it until you turn into a pink fuzzy rabbit, but it's not going to happen.
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I know it's not going to happen but I love rabbits :)

Now to get back on track, what other TPIR games would you like to see come back from the grave or rarely played games just to get more air time?

Was "Give or Keep" that bad of a game? We'd all love to see BUMP again :)
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: Kevin Prather on May 06, 2005, 12:25:51 AM
Bullseye I!

*ducks*
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on May 06, 2005, 12:33:31 AM
Saussage, please try get it through your skull that $uper $aver was retired as a result of Bob explaining the rules incorrectly.  He was the one who decided he didn't want to risk doing it again, and no matter how long you try to argue that that wasn't the reason, you aren't going to get any less wrong.  For your own sake, DROP IT; otherwise, I may have to slap you.

[quote name=\'saussage\' date=\'May 5 2005, 11:39 PM\']It doesn't say anywhere on the golden road web site whether Double Digits was retired due to confusion but I'm sure from the TPIR tapes we've seen of this game, I wouldn't have been suprized if it was a factor why it got retired.
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I realize that this wasn't your purpose, but please do not try to offer me insights as to what is and isn't in Golden-Road.net's FAQ.  I wrote the damn thing.
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: DJDustman on May 06, 2005, 12:46:58 AM
When TPIR was at its best? Simple answer, TPIR is still at its best. Enjoy it while it lasts, Barker is with us, we still get new pricing games every year, the models are always cute, be happy :).
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: saussage on May 06, 2005, 12:55:54 AM
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'May 5 2005, 11:33 PM\']Saussage, please try get it through your skull that $uper $aver was retired as a result of Bob explaining the rules incorrectly. 
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All I said was that I found it a bit hard to swallow that the game was shelved due to saying the rules incorrectly. I didn't way that you were wrong, I just find it amazing how one blunder can shelve a pricing game.

I read the reason why it was shelved on the webpage, I have no reason to disagree with it. Just because I have an opinion on why something happened doesn't make me right. I wasn't here to rewrite history, I was just giving my opinion, something that I must've omitted for this conversation to occur.

Pass me some aspirin.
I feel like shoving a 0 in the Lucky Seven price :p
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: dizzy on May 06, 2005, 02:21:14 AM
quote from saussage, May 5 2005, 11:55 PM]

All I said was that I found it a bit hard to swallow that the game was shelved due to saying the rules incorrectly. I didn't way that you were wrong, I just find it amazing how one blunder can shelve a pricing game.

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 Ok... Swallow THIS saussage.  Bob screwed up. Then he feared it would happen again. Bob starting having nightmares over this. Then whenever he would pass by SuperSaver in the hall he started having Panic Attacks. Many months of therapy did not resolve this issue. Bob then ordered the game destroyed. He was once overheard muttering to himself that he would have Dian Parkinson back on stage before he would ever set foot near Super Saver again. So give poor Bob a break. Big Bad Game made bob afraid!    ;-)


Dizzy
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on May 06, 2005, 02:58:17 AM
I think someone had one too many glasses of Kool-Aid before bedtime.
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: Craig Karlberg on May 06, 2005, 04:58:27 AM
Shoving a 0 in a Lucky $even price sounds kinda harsh, but it ACTUALLY did happen many years ago.

As far as time comparisons go with 1977 & now goes, back then, the average airing time was around 45 minutes(give or take a minute) while it's only about 40 mimutes today.  I guess that's the way the economical ball bounces.
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: jmangin on May 06, 2005, 08:03:37 AM
[quote name=\'saussage\' date=\'May 5 2005, 10:04 PM\'][quote name=\'jmangin\' date=\'May 5 2005, 08:23 AM\']For Dice Game, Bob always says there are no zeroes and no numbers above six.  It's not fair to compare the Super Saver debacle against Dice Game since the same issue has not happened for both games.
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Bad example or not, the Dice Game example with the 0's was one that never happened, but one that could easily happen.
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That's still not a fair statement.  A zero in the price of Dice Game with modern rules WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: saussage on May 06, 2005, 08:23:46 AM
[quote name=\'dizzy\' date=\'May 6 2005, 01:21 AM\']quote from saussage, May 5 2005, 11:55 PM]

All I said was that I found it a bit hard to swallow that the game was shelved due to saying the rules incorrectly. I didn't way that you were wrong, I just find it amazing how one blunder can shelve a pricing game.

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 Ok... Swallow THIS saussage.  Bob screwed up. Then he feared it would happen again. Bob starting having nightmares over this. Then whenever he would pass by SuperSaver in the hall he started having Panic Attacks. Many months of therapy did not resolve this issue. Bob then ordered the game destroyed. He was once overheard muttering to himself that he would have Dian Parkinson back on stage before he would ever set foot near Super Saver again. So give poor Bob a break. Big Bad Game made bob afraid!    ;-)

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I'm giving Bob a break. I just don't want Bob with a sledgehammer every time a pricing game he screws up with gets chopped up into retirement :)
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: jmangin on May 06, 2005, 08:30:26 AM
[quote name=\'saussage\' date=\'May 6 2005, 08:23 AM\']I'm giving Bob a break. I just don't want Bob with a sledgehammer every time a pricing game he screws up with gets chopped up into retirement :)
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True--however a pricing game being retired because of Bob's poor explanation of the rules has only happened once.
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: Gromit on May 07, 2005, 04:04:09 AM
Well, put me in the Holly, Dian, and Janice camp too. Late 70's, early 80's was definitely my favourite era for the show.

Hard to really pinpoint it, but they all had personalities. You got to hear them talk, interact with Bob, and Holly could always be relied on to screw something up, which made her my favourite. Nowadays, the models are just nameless faceless barbie dolls that rotate in and out.
Title: When TPIR was at it's best
Post by: TimK2003 on May 07, 2005, 08:36:25 PM
[quote name=\'Gromit\' date=\'May 7 2005, 03:04 AM\']Hard to really pinpoint it, but they all had personalities. You got to hear them talk, interact with Bob, and Holly could always be relied on to screw something up, which made her my favourite. Nowadays, the models are just nameless faceless barbie dolls that rotate in and out.
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A lot of the overt personalities of Janice, Dian & Holly that were seen by the home & studio audiences are thanks to the creative showcases which appeared after TPIR was expanded to 1 hour.  Prior to that, they pretty much stood there showing prizes with the anonymity that was commonplace with all other game shows.

Nowadays, the combination of rotating models and the less time to do show segments & showcases due to expanded commercial breaks has pretty much put the models back to the anonymity seen in the show's 1/2 hour days.