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Caught a quick commercial. Interviews with Susan and Merv.
I'm sure what scandals they can dig up here, but I'm sure they'll go over Vanna's boyfriends death.
Next Sunday at 8pm.
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Jan 16 2005, 08:49 PM\']Caught a quick commercial. Interviews with Susan and Merv.
I'm sure what scandals they can dig up here, but I'm sure they'll go over Vanna's boyfriends death.
Next Sunday at 8pm.
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They could talk about the rift between Woolery and Griffin. There's also Jack Clark's painful cancer struggle and subsequent death.
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Per the TiVo, the E!THS on "Family Feud" and "The Price is Right" will be running the same day, the former at 5 pm and the latter at 7 pm.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jan 16 2005, 08:58 PM\'][quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Jan 16 2005, 08:49 PM\']Caught a quick commercial. Interviews with Susan and Merv.
I'm sure what scandals they can dig up here, but I'm sure they'll go over Vanna's boyfriends death.
Next Sunday at 8pm.
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They could talk about the rift between Woolery and Griffin. There's also Jack Clark's painful cancer struggle and subsequent death.
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If Jack is mentioned, he'll probably just be glossed over. No doubt they'll get their E! rocks off on The Chucker's resignation because it reeks of controversy, drama and uncomfortable backstage dealings.
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Wonder if they'll churn out any rare footage for it...
Chuck Donegan (The Optimistic "Chuckie Baby")
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I wonder if they'll cover the litigation-happy guy from a short while back who said he was injured when Sajak started wrestling him.
("After the break: The Rolf Years Months.")
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I wonder how many of the same still photos will be shown over and over and over.
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I wonder what stories will be rehashed unnecessarily, kinda like Janice's missing husband on TPiR.
Mind you, I'm happy to have a game show related THS, but I also know THS is pretty crappy with their execution, esp. writing.
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From TVguide:
"The chronicle includes insights from the show's creator, Merv Griffin; the show's original producer Nancy Jones; Susan Stafford and Rolf Benirschke, who hosted one season of the series."
This will be 2 hours.
And to think Price's was only 1 hour.
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Jan 17 2005, 06:29 AM\']and Rolf Benirschke, who hosted one season of the series."
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Will Joe Raygor be making a cameo along side?
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Jan 17 2005, 12:07 AM\']I wonder if they'll cover the litigation-happy guy from a short while back who said he was injured when Sajak started wrestling him.
("After the break: The Rolf Years Months.")
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Wasn't there a lawsuit against Raymond Taylor, a three-time champion on the syndie WOF in the early 90s. He had apparently made an unappreciated cameo or two on the Sony lot a few years later.
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Will Joe Raygor be making a cameo along side?
LOL...in all seriousness, I could see Joe offering some commentary on the Rolf era, much like Marc Green did on the TPiR THS. :-)
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Jan 17 2005, 08:45 PM\']
Will Joe Raygor be making a cameo along side?
LOL...in all seriousness, I could see Joe offering some commentary on the Rolf era, much like Marc Green did on the TPiR THS. :-)
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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So could I, Chuck, so could I. He's quite an expert on the "Rolf Years". :)
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A question I have to ask..with all the hosts they could have gotten for WOF in the first revival, why Rolf Benirschke? This may have been gone over in the ATGS days but I never saw a WOF with him as host.
Tim Lones
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[quote name=\'Tim L\' date=\'Jan 17 2005, 11:14 PM\']A question I have to ask..with all the hosts they could have gotten for WOF in the first revival, why Rolf Benirschke? This may have been gone over in the ATGS days but I never saw a WOF with him as host.
Tim Lones
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We think he has pictures of Merv Griffin with a moose.
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[quote name=\'Tim L\' date=\'Jan 18 2005, 01:14 AM\']A question I have to ask..with all the hosts they could have gotten for WOF in the first revival, why Rolf Benirschke? [/quote]
They were thinking ahead, and realized they needed at least one host that would later be willing to appear on an E! True Hollywood Story.
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I guess they'll mention Bob Goen in passing.
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[quote name=\'Tim L\' date=\'Jan 18 2005, 02:14 AM\']A question I have to ask..with all the hosts they could have gotten for WOF in the first revival, why Rolf Benirschke? This may have been gone over in the ATGS days but I never saw a WOF with him as host.[/quote]
The more-or-less serious answer is that Merv Griffin was fond of hiring unknowns, and he thought he had a knack for it. Truth is, sometimes he got lucky but more often he crapped out.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jan 18 2005, 09:49 AM\'][quote name=\'Tim L\' date=\'Jan 18 2005, 02:14 AM\']A question I have to ask..with all the hosts they could have gotten for WOF in the first revival, why Rolf Benirschke? This may have been gone over in the ATGS days but I never saw a WOF with him as host.[/quote]
The more-or-less serious answer is that Merv Griffin was fond of hiring unknowns, and he thought he had a knack for it. Truth is, sometimes he got lucky but more often he crapped out.
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Trebek seems to be the one big exception, and Harry Eisenberg reported in his book Jeff McGregor(I assume the same guy from the 80s Dating Game) was originally under consideration to host the J! revival.
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Jan 18 2005, 12:55 AM\'][quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Jan 17 2005, 08:45 PM\']
Will Joe Raygor be making a cameo along side?
LOL...in all seriousness, I could see Joe offering some commentary on the Rolf era, much like Marc Green did on the TPiR THS. :-)
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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So could I, Chuck, so could I. He's quite an expert on the "Rolf Years". :)
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You will all be hearing my attorney very shortly... :)
-Joe R.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jan 18 2005, 09:49 AM\'][quote name=\'Tim L\' date=\'Jan 18 2005, 02:14 AM\']A question I have to ask..with all the hosts they could have gotten for WOF in the first revival, why Rolf Benirschke? This may have been gone over in the ATGS days but I never saw a WOF with him as host.[/quote]
The more-or-less serious answer is that Merv Griffin was fond of hiring unknowns, and he thought he had a knack for it. Truth is, sometimes he got lucky but more often he crapped out.
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Benirschke.....
Reilly......
Martindale (oh no wait! Good host, bad show........)
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[quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'Jan 18 2005, 04:56 PM\']Benirschke.....
Reilly......
Martindale (oh no wait! Good host, bad show........)
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Merv had nothing to do with Martindale or Headline Chasers; Wink created that himself, but since Merv and King World had an previous agreement, Merv's company was forced into helping with the production. In fact, according to some previous posts, Merv hated HC, Wink in turn hated Merv, and they fell out.
A similar situation supposedly happened with Monopoly, but that's another story.
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Forgett 'Desperate Housewife's' this week. I am really looking forward to it.
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My predictions on what will be covered on Sunday's Wheel THS:
Vanna's miscarriage, and her birth two years later to Nicholas, and three years later to Giovanna.
Vanna having to break the news about her fiancee John's death to his parents.
Vanna and George getting a divorce, after George is forced to sleep in the guestroom (from a National Enquirer headline).
Vanna possibly leaving Wheel when her contract expires in a few years.
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[quote name=\'tyshaun1\' date=\'Jan 18 2005, 07:16 PM\']Merv had nothing to do with Martindale or Headline Chasers; Wink created that himself, but since Merv and King World had an previous agreement, Merv's company was forced into helping with the production. In fact, according to some previous posts, Merv hated HC, Wink in turn hated Merv, and they fell out.[/quote]
It should surprise precisely no one that the story comes out differently in Wink's autobiography. He tells of having to get Merv's "final say" in order to work with KingWorld, and tells of their first meeting:
"Literally two minutes into the presentation, Merv got up, moved to the arm of my chair and said to me, 'Wink, this isn't just another game show -- this is a very important game show!' "
Wink also credits Merv for changing the name from his original The Front Page. One paragraph later, Wink and his short-attention-span style of writing has moved past HC's cancellation and on to the next show.
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I feel it's worth throwing out since I haven't heard much of the book in these circles: some of Bob Eubanks' book is the same way. I absolutely loved it, from the radio stuff to concert promotion, but it's obvious what Bob wanted to talk about more. Some game shows get little ink surprisingly, but it's probably due to Bob's choice of wanting "good stories" for each show. For some, I guess there weren't too many distinct memories.
-Jason
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[quote name=\'JasonA1\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 12:11 AM\']I feel it's worth throwing out since I haven't heard much of the book in these circles: some of Bob Eubanks' book is the same way. I absolutely loved it, from the radio stuff to concert promotion, but it's obvious what Bob wanted to talk about more. Some game shows get little ink surprisingly, but it's probably due to Bob's choice of wanting "good stories" for each show. For some, I guess there weren't too many distinct memories.[/quote]
We're drifting further and further from the original topic, but since this comment probably doesn't deserve a thread of its own and relates to the recent turn, I'll stick it in here.
I'd heard that Dick Enberg's new autobiography Oh, My! was going to have a chapter devoted to his game show exploits. Not true, sports fans. Like so many others who've had game shows in their past, Dick glosses over his game show resume. He barely even has a page about Sports Challenge, a show he did on and off for a decade and which featured some of the greatest sports legends of all time. Seems like there ought to have been some stories there. And the only specific thing he has to say about any of his traditional games is that he got to keep some of his wardrobe from Baffle.
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Not many people knew who Chuck Woolery was either when he was hired to do Wheel.
I would dare say that Amazing Jonathan was an obscurity when Merv hired him to host Ruckus. (clears throat)
I'll bet they'll get Chuck to do some commentary on the show, and there's plenty of interview footage. Chuck has never said an ill word about Wheel, at least in public.
Veering a little off topic, would anyone here still like to see Chuck hosting Wheel for one special week, or at least for the April Fools show? I mean, it probably will NEVER happen (then again, who ever thought Peter would host Squares again, even if it was for one show, and who ever thought Monty would still surface on the LMAD revival).
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[quote name=\'whewfan\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 10:19 AM\']Not many people knew who Chuck Woolery was either when he was hired to do Wheel.
I would dare say that Amazing Jonathan was an obscurity when Merv hired him to host Ruckus. (clears throat)
I'll bet they'll get Chuck to do some commentary on the show, and there's plenty of interview footage. Chuck has never said an ill word about Wheel, at least in public.
Veering a little off topic, would anyone here still like to see Chuck hosting Wheel for one special week, or at least for the April Fools show? I mean, it probably will NEVER happen (then again, who ever thought Peter would host Squares again, even if it was for one show, and who ever thought Monty would still surface on the LMAD revival).
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Not so much a matter of being unknown..Woolery at least had a few TV appearances before WOF..and Trebek was already known as a Game Show Host in Canada brfore Wizard of Odds. but Benirschke was a San Diego Chargers Kicker with NO previous TV experience. According to the ImDB (which at times is known for inaccuracy) The only other time Rolf appears on TV is on ESPN's "SportsCentury"talking about the 1981 Dolphins-Chargers playoff game.
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E!'s description:
http://www.eonline.com/On/Holly/Shows/Whee...tune/index.html (http://\"http://www.eonline.com/On/Holly/Shows/WheelofFortune/index.html\")
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[quote name=\'whewfan\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 08:19 AM\']I would dare say that Amazing Jonathan was an obscurity when Merv hired him to host Ruckus. (clears throat)
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As a television personality? Sure. I was certainly familiar with his act as a magician/comedian well before Ruckus, though.
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 12:11 PM\']E!'s description:
http://www.eonline.com/On/Holly/Shows/Whee...tune/index.html (http://\"http://www.eonline.com/On/Holly/Shows/WheelofFortune/index.html\")
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I only got eight out of ten on the quiz. BTW, "a number of shaky starts" suggests that we might get clips from the pilots. It would be very, very easy for them to find some hilariously bad moments from them!
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Regarding one question on the quiz. I find that interesting, but wonder if they could've found an alternative method, esp. since J! used pull-cards for the previous 11 years. Either that or a Ferranti-style board.
Oh yeah and 8-2 on the quiz.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 12:07 PM\']Oh yeah and 8-2 on the quiz.
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I only got 7, but, hey--at least I got a trip to Hawaii!
Oh, I don't really get to go? :-(
Doug
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[quote name=\'Tim L\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 11:53 AM\']Not so much a matter of being unknown..Woolery at least had a few TV appearances before WOF..and Trebek was already known as a Game Show Host in Canada brfore Wizard of Odds.
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Which brings up an interesting question:
Should you call a high school quiz bowl a game show?
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Didn't the Shopper's Bazaar pilot actually use something similiar to the pull card method used on Jeopardy? I heard it mentioned on here last year sometime.
David
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[quote name=\'whewfan\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 10:19 AM\']Not many people knew who Chuck Woolery was either when he was hired to do Wheel.
I would dare say that Amazing Jonathan was an obscurity when Merv hired him to host Ruckus. (clears throat)
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Was Art Fleming that well known before he was picked to the original J!? The only thing I know about him pre-J! is that he was once a radio air talent in Akron, OH.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 09:50 AM\']And the only specific thing he has to say about any of his traditional games is that he got to keep some of his wardrobe from Baffle.
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Man -- he got hosed. When will he ever need those sport jackets again?
Was Art Fleming that well known before he was picked to the original J!? The only thing I know about him pre-J! is that he was once a radio air talent in Akron, OH.
He did two TV series as an actor; both were probably syndicated (which means even less people saw them than would watch a syndicated drama now). Merv (or his wife, can't remember which) spotted him doing WNBC's late news.
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I got 4 right and I won 6,000....eh points. But one question was How long did Chuck Woolery host Wheel. Didn't he host it for 6 years, not 7?
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[quote name=\'Stevek83\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 09:07 PM\']I got 4 right and I won 6,000....eh points. But one question was How long did Chuck Woolery host Wheel. Didn't he host it for 6 years, not 7?
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Started 1/75, finished 12/81. It's close enough to 7 years.
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[quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 09:14 PM\'][quote name=\'Stevek83\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 09:07 PM\']I got 4 right and I won 6,000....eh points. But one question was How long did Chuck Woolery host Wheel. Didn't he host it for 6 years, not 7?
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Started 1/75, finished 12/81. It's close enough to 7 years.
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Ahhh Okay. I thought Wheel debuted in Sept.
Thanks
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Just a reminder to everyone that this airs tonight!
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Nice to see Chuck and Susie, among many others, appear on E!THS, as well as the woman who almost got Vanna's job, Vicki McCarty Iovine. I Googled and found out that, yes, Vicki's husband is record producer and executive, Jimmy Iovine.
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[quote name=\'byrd62\' date=\'Jan 23 2005, 08:54 PM\']Nice to see Chuck and Susie, among many others, appear on E!THS, as well as the woman who almost got Vanna's job, Vicki McCarty Iovine. I Googled and found out that, yes, Vicki's husband is record producer and executive, Jimmy Iovine.
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Not to mention.....say it with me.....ANOTHER PLAYBOY PLAYMATE......
ObGS: "Price" is notorious for Playmates starting with the Queen Playmate.
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Looks like the 1st episode (among some others) still exists.
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Line of the day comes from Merv Griffin.
Knock, knock...
Who's there?
Goen...
Goen who?
Go and hmmm yourself.
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There were a few things that surprised me in the show:
For starters, the footage and stills from the pilots and early years of the were a real treat.
But the thing that really surprised me was that Mark Goodson tried to "steal" Susan Stafford away from the show. Let's suppose for a moment that Susan did make the jump to TPIR, then I assume Holly Holstrom never would have been hired.
Also, A GUY UNDER THE WHEEL!? I can't believe Standards & Practices let them get away with that. Anyone care to explain that one?
-Sam
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Good show tonight. Lots of stuff I didn't know. That bit about Goodson and Price surprised me, too. But Susan's no dummy.
So, which would you take?
PRICE: No billing, little interaction with the host, mostly just stand there and point at stuff and look cute...
or WHEEL: Host introduces you, walk through a curtain to applause (OK, partially the canned NBC variety), on camera about half the time, get to drive the car out (and toot the horn), and get to chum it up with the host, and you get billing.
Makes the Price job attractive, doesn't it?
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[quote name=\'joe_capitano\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 03:33 AM\']So, which would you take?
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PRICE: Audience of 350
WHEEL: Audience of 8
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I agree, Susan's no dummy. No one in their right mind would have made that jump. That's what's so surprising about it: that Goodson even offered.
If the siutation were reversed, with Merv trying to woo a Barker Beauty to "Wheel", I could see it.
Just add this one to the "what might have been" file, along with Jimmy Connors and Joe Namath being game show hosts!
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 03:55 AM\'][PRICE: Audience of 350
WHEEL: Audience of 8
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You're right, Mark. I'd still take Wheel. Co-billing, on camera just as much as the host, the only model on the show. Plus, you're going by Peter Marshall's word on Wheel's audience, and he still seems bitter over Wheel geting spared over HS. Also, TPIR's audiences weren't at capacity every show until the 90's.
Best GS-themed E!THS they've done, tho. And how ugly was the original Chuck Woolery Shopper's Bazaar pilot? Contestants sat down, the puzzle board looked awful, and prizes were obscured all over the set. Yech.
Tyshaun
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[quote name=\'calliaume\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 09:07 PM\'][quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 09:50 AM\']And the only specific thing he has to say about any of his traditional games is that he got to keep some of his wardrobe from Baffle.
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Man -- he got hosed. When will he ever need those sport jackets again?
Was Art Fleming that well known before he was picked to the original J!? The only thing I know about him pre-J! is that he was once a radio air talent in Akron, OH.
He did two TV series as an actor; both were probably syndicated (which means even less people saw them than would watch a syndicated drama now). Merv (or his wife, can't remember which) spotted him doing WNBC's late news.
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Art Fleming was also one of the assistants on Dr. I.Q. Where he and several others went into the audience, selecting a member to answer a question asked by the "Dr." He and the other assistants would, when called upon, say "I have a gentleman/lady, doctor!"
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[quote name=\'gsgalaxy82\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 11:51 AM\']Didn't the Shopper's Bazaar pilot actually use something similiar to the pull card method used on Jeopardy? I heard it mentioned on here last year sometime.
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For the reveal of letters on what later became the puzzle board.
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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[quote name=\'tyshaun1\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 11:04 AM\']Best GS-themed E!THS they've done, tho. And how ugly was the original Chuck Woolery Shopper's Bazaar pilot? Contestants sat down, the puzzle board board looked awful, and prizes were obscured all over the set. Yech.
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I enjoyed it as well, and I thought they spent a good portion on the Chuck/Susan years (what I really wanted to see). Who knew Susan was a party girl in her former life?
I loved seeing the "new" clips as well (the first episode), Susan's final ep., and the rare still shots, esp. that Shopper's Bazaar pilot.
BTW, anyone who can remember that far back, was the "GOOD BYE SUSAN" message an actual puzzle (like the "VANNA'S PREGNANT" thing), or just something done as a tribute?
Finally, when did she actually leave...I just know Vanna debuted in Dec. 1982 and there were several weeks of on-air auditions.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 11:30 AM\'][quote name=\'tyshaun1\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 11:04 AM\']Best GS-themed E!THS they've done, tho. And how ugly was the original Chuck Woolery Shopper's Bazaar pilot? Contestants sat down, the puzzle board board looked awful, and prizes were obscured all over the set. Yech.
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BTW, anyone who can remember that far back, was the "GOOD BYE SUSAN" message an actual puzzle (like the "VANNA'S PREGNANT" thing), or just something done as a tribute?
Finally, when did she actually leave...I just know Vanna debuted in Dec. 1982 and there were several weeks of on-air auditions.
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It was a goodbye segment. We had a contestant on Susan's final episode(aired on 10/22/82) visit this board last year and tell about his experience. She got a goodbye segment at the end of the show. The on-air tryouts, including Vicki Mccarty Iovine, Summer Bartholomew, and Vanna, aired between 10/25/82-12/10/82.
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I thought the portion about the pilot was interesting, in a behind the scenes way. Hearing about how director Marty Pasetta always kept switching cameras between [IIRC] the wheel, contestant, board, audience, etc...plus we got to actually see the set genius that is Ed Flesh.
Sure, they spent a lot of time talking about Vanna's personal crises, but this is one of the better THS's they've done.
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[quote name=\'Chief-O\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 11:08 AM\']plus we got to actually see the set genius that is Ed Flesh.
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Speaking of Ed Flesh, what shows did Ed create sets for?
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A better question would be what shows did he NOT create a set for ;-)
Here's a partial list, yeah it's from the IMDB, but this time it's a decent list. (http://\"http://imdb.com/name/nm0281901/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxzZz0xfGxtPTIwMHx0dD1vbnxwbj0wfHE9RWQgRmxlc2h8aHRtbD0xfG5tPW9u;fc=2;ft=21;fm=1\")
Some missing:
-Scrabble 93
-Scattergories
-Caesar's Challenge
-Newlywed Game 85
-Jeopardy! ("checkerboard" set)
-80s Pyramid
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 09:17 AM\']A better question would be what shows did he NOT create a set for ;-)
Here's a partial list, yeah it's from the IMDB, but this time it's a decent list. (http://\"http://imdb.com/name/nm0281901/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxzZz0xfGxtPTIwMHx0dD1vbnxwbj0wfHE9RWQgRmxlc2h8aHRtbD0xfG5tPW9u;fc=2;ft=21;fm=1\")
Some missing:
-Scrabble 93
-Scattergories
-Caesar's Challenge
-Newlywed Game 85
-Jeopardy! ("checkerboard" set)
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Good lord, don't forget "Pyramid"!
And add to the lengthy list a few especially innovative sets Ed created:
The elegant 2-story set for SOTC in New York
The monster set with dozens of slide projectors for PYL
Supermarket Sweep (my fave ;-)
And he has a story for each and every one of the shows he worked on!
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 12:24 PM\'][quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 09:17 AM\']A better question would be what shows did he NOT create a set for ;-)
Here's a partial list, yeah it's from the IMDB, but this time it's a decent list. (http://\"http://imdb.com/name/nm0281901/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxzZz0xfGxtPTIwMHx0dD1vbnxwbj0wfHE9RWQgRmxlc2h8aHRtbD0xfG5tPW9u;fc=2;ft=21;fm=1\")
Some missing:
-Scrabble 93
-Scattergories
-Caesar's Challenge
-Newlywed Game 85
-Jeopardy! ("checkerboard" set)
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Other than the "checkerboard" J! set, one of his best works. He took the cramped (and somewhat tacky) 70s set and made it far more elegant.
And add to the lengthy list a few especially innovative sets Ed created:
The elegant 2-story set for SOTC in New York
The monster set with dozens of slide projectors for PYL
Supermarket Sweep (my fave ;-)
And he has a story for each and every one of the shows he worked on!
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Randy, is there any way you could get Ed to this board? When I was younger, I seriously wanted to get into set design, and always closely checked out Ed's work (among others such as Bente Christensen and John Mula). I'd love to see his stories. :-)
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 09:32 AM\']Randy, is there any way you could get Ed to this board? When I was younger, I seriously wanted to get into set design, and always closely checked out Ed's work (among others such as Bente Christensen and John Mula). I'd love to see his stories. :-)
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Ed lives on a remote ranch (with actual animals!) out in the middle of nowhere, and I really don't know if he even has internet access at home. Sorry. I can only suggest that you shoot me an e-mail when things calm down on TPiR-Live in a couple of months. I'll let you know if Ed and my paths are crossing again.
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 12:32 PM\']always closely checked out Ed's work (among others such as Bente Christensen)
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Stupid question, but is it going to be rerun any time in the near future to anyone's knowledge?
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[quote name=\'catnap1972\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 02:13 PM\']Stupid question, but is it going to be rerun any time in the near future to anyone's knowledge?
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zap2it.com has it listed for a number of times this week. (http://\"http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/program.asp?prog_id=2793384&series_id=351347&partner_id=national\")
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 02:17 PM\'][quote name=\'catnap1972\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 02:13 PM\']Stupid question, but is it going to be rerun any time in the near future to anyone's knowledge?
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zap2it.com has it listed for a number of times this week. (http://\"http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/program.asp?prog_id=2793384&series_id=351347&partner_id=national\")
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Thanks!
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Twas a well-done show. I was pleasantly surprised. Nothing about Jack Clark, but that was expected. I thought the short-lived expansion to an hour might have been mentioned. Rolf is a good sport. There was a goof I caught when it was mentioned that CBS dropped the daytime show in September 1991, when in fact the game had moved back to NBC by then. But there was so much right about the documentary (as opposed to other E! THS offerings) I can overlook it.
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They also mentioned he sold his stake of Wheel, I think, in 1986.
Wasn't it a bit later than that?
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I thought it was pretty good. We finally got to see what the elusive "Buy a Vowel" space looked like! (And a $25 space on the Wheel!)
As for a very brief Rolf segment: I thought the show gave as much information as they could on such a short era. Rolf seemed rather diplomatic talking about the show, not as bitter as I thought. He seems to have aged very well.
I thought all the Goen segments were rather rushed. (Why was Goen a no-show?)
-Joe R.
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Knock, knock...
Who's there?
Goen...
Goen who?
Go and hmmm yourself.
I thought a better line would have been "Goen to CBS!"
-Greg
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Anyone notice how Pat actually spells his last name?
In the copies they show of Pat's marriage license, and later in the show, his divorce papers, his signature reads "Patrick Sadjak"
I imagine it's still pronounced the same way, but for some reason Pat dropped the "d".
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[quote name=\'whewfan\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 04:18 PM\']Anyone notice how Pat actually spells his last name?
In the copies they show of Pat's marriage license, and later in the show, his divorce papers, his signature reads "Patrick Sadjak"
I imagine it's still pronounced the same way, but for some reason Pat dropped the "d".
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Could be legal reasons. Most people in show business have an actual different spelling to their name or have a stage name for that matter.
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[quote name=\'14gameshows\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 02:28 PM\']Could be legal reasons. Most people in show business have an actual different spelling to their name or have a stage name for that matter.
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Exactly. Not uncommon at all, ESPECIALLY in radio, where Pat built up much of his career. To this day, in fact, I am surprised that I've used my real name for the majority of my radio career.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 04:54 PM\'][quote name=\'14gameshows\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 02:28 PM\']Could be legal reasons. Most people in show business have an actual different spelling to their name or have a stage name for that matter.
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Exactly. Not uncommon at all, ESPECIALLY in radio, where Pat built up much of his career. To this day, in fact, I am surprised that I've used my real name for the majority of my radio career.
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Has anybody ever noticed the connection? Dave Letterman, former weatherman(I think WISH in Indy, but in Indy for sure), TALK SHOW HOST. Pat Sajak, former weatherman(KNBC), GAME SHOW HOST. Rich Fields, weatherman in Palm Springs, PRICE IS RIGHT ANNOUNCER!
Hey Randy, get your degree in meteorology and you can have Charlie O's or Johnny G's jobs after they retire!
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 03:54 PM\']I am surprised that I've used my real name for the majority of my radio career.
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[quote name=\'WhammyPower\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 05:12 PM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 03:54 PM\']I am surprised that I've used my real name for the majority of my radio career.
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I agree. If you had my last name, Chris, you'd change it in a heartbeat!
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[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 03:27 PM\']I agree. If you had my last name, Chris, you'd change it in a heartbeat!
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Everyone tells me that, and I point out, y'all aren't named after fruit. :)
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[quote name=\'passwordplus\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 04:00 PM\']Has anybody ever noticed the connection? Dave Letterman, former weatherman(I think WISH in Indy, but in Indy for sure)
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Right market, wrong station. It was what is now NBC affiliate WTHR-Channel 13 (when Dave worked there, it was WLWI and an ABC affil).
I guess Connecti-Matt has a leg up on all of us in that regard. Speaking of which, when are you on, Matt? I have some relatives in Connecticut (not a lot, but maybe they watch--you never know).
Doug -- and the countdown to 1000 continues
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 05:59 PM\'][quote name=\'passwordplus\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 04:00 PM\']Has anybody ever noticed the connection? Dave Letterman, former weatherman(I think WISH in Indy, but in Indy for sure)
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Right market, wrong station. It was what is now NBC affiliate WTHR-Channel 13 (when Dave worked there, it was WLWI and an ABC affil).
I guess Connecti-Matt has a leg up on all of us in that regard. Speaking of which, when are you on, Matt? I have some relatives in Connecticut (not a lot, but maybe they watch--you never know).
Doug -- and the countdown to 1000 continues
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Yeah...i'm hoping...but as you all know, gs aren't the daytime dominant format anymore...and being a local news jock doesn't get you to the big leagues as often...(Goen did sports in Palm Springs....Chris Harrison did sports in Ok City, but those are the last two recent ones)...Still, I hope for the best...I smirked when I saw that Goen was 34 when he was hired to do WOF...i'm getting close!
But enough about me, let's talk about me!
I co-host "Good Morning Connecticut" on the weekends...2 hours from 6-8am...it's the best combination of news, weather, entertainment, and awkward silence you'll find on local tv!
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 06:32 PM\']I co-host "Good Morning Connecticut" on the weekends...2 hours from 6-8am...it's the best combination of news, weather, entertainment, and awkward silence you'll find on local tv!
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Do they stream or archive their shows at all? Would be neat to see another "of our own" ....
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 06:33 PM\'][quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 06:32 PM\']I co-host "Good Morning Connecticut" on the weekends...2 hours from 6-8am...it's the best combination of news, weather, entertainment, and awkward silence you'll find on local tv!
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Do they stream or archive their shows at all? Would be neat to see another "of our own" ....
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They do post weather reports after we're done...if you go today to WTNH.com and look for the blizzard coverage, you'll find me in there a lot...
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[quote name=\'byrd62\' date=\'Jan 23 2005, 09:54 PM\']I Googled and found out that, yes, Vicki's husband is record producer and executive, Jimmy Iovine.
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In a semi-related topic, Rock and roll manager Irving Azoff's wife(at least in February 1982 she was), Shelli, was part of the family pair on this past weekend's airing of Blockbusters.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 04:57 PM\']In a semi-related topic,
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"In a pathetic attempt to draw attention back to me in a discussion I'm not involved in..."
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That's Line Of The Day material right there, folk.
Doug -- and the countdown to 1000 continues
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 05:22 PM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 06:25 PM\'][quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 04:57 PM\']In a semi-related topic,
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"In a pathetic attempt to draw attention back to me in a discussion I'm not involved in..."
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That's Line Of The Day material right there, folk.
Doug -- and the countdown to 1000 continues
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Chris, you really need to write a book filled with your anecdotes. I think a lot of people would appreciate your dry wit.
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[quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 08:28 PM\']Chris, you really need to write a book filled with your anecdotes. I think a lot of people would appreciate your dry wit.
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As I may have said before, I actually get a bit excited when I see Chris has posted - I love his dry wit. :)
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But I'm a hateful, hateful bastard! Evil personified! The Great Satan of this forum!
Seriously, guys, thanks for the nice words. Makes a guy feel pretty good to know someone's actually reading.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 09:13 PM\']But I'm a hateful, hateful bastard! Evil personified! The Great Satan of this forum!
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Damn, I said "JERK AND A-HOLE" (holds up blue MG card)
Seriously, you and Don Howard should start a little comedy duo. ;-)
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 08:27 PM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 09:13 PM\']But I'm a hateful, hateful bastard! Evil personified! The Great Satan of this forum!
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BZZZZZZZZ!!
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 24 2005, 09:13 PM\']But I'm a hateful, hateful bastard! Evil personified! The Great Satan of this forum!
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Ahhh....So you work for Clear Channel, eh? <ducking>
;-p
(I'm sorry, I just can't help bashing that monopolistic corporate group of a-holes whenever possible).
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Back to the topic now...
Unlike the Family Feud THS, the Wheel one didn't even mention the contestants' stupid guesses to puzzles, like:
"Armadillo and Laredo, Texas" (Amarillo and Laredo, Texas)
"Miners & Hoes" (Fingers & Toes)
"Done with One Hand" (Gone With The Wind)
And what is definitely WOF's version of Feud's "September"...
"A Group of Pill-Pushers" (A Group of Well-Wishers) with Pat screaming "This is Wheel of Fortune, Joe!!" to the contestant.
And Jimmy Connors almost becoming host of the daytime show before Rolf?? Didn't Merv learn from how Joe Namath was all set to do Family Feud until they looked at Ray Combs?
Jonathan Allen
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I remember watching once where a lady said, "I'd like to buy a vowel." Pat said, "O.k." She said, "I'd like a 'C' please." And Pat had to explain that 'C' isn't a vowel.
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I had the dry wit once.
Went to the doctor... and he cleared it right up.
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[quote name=\'bossjock967\' date=\'Jan 27 2005, 07:46 AM\']I had the dry wit once.
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I wonder if this doctor can do anything for my chriteria (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=3862&st=0&#entry37288\").
Schocastic process matrices, chriteria, dry wit...a lot of strange conditions reported on this forum!
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[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' date=\'Jan 27 2005, 02:48 PM\'][quote name=\'bossjock967\' date=\'Jan 27 2005, 07:46 AM\']I had the dry wit once.
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I wonder if this doctor can do anything for my chriteria (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=3862&st=0&#entry37288\").
Schocastic process matrices, chriteria, dry wit...a lot of strange conditions reported on this forum![/quote]As long as you don't get Jim Caldwell's analys, you'll be OK.
Maybe Dr. Chuck has the cure for those ills. C-H-U-C-K!
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Saw the "THS" last night. What I found interesting is that Vicki McCarty Iovine didn't hold and doesn't hold a grudge against Vanna for beating her out of the job and supposedly is friends with her. That's what I call a secure ego.
Can I assume that the "Iovine" in her name is as in Jimmy Iovine, the record company executive?
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Jan 27 2005, 05:38 PM\']Saw the "THS" last night. What I found interesting is that Vicki McCarty Iovine didn't hold and doesn't hold a grudge against Vanna for beating her out of the job and supposedly is friends with her. That's what I call a secure ego.
Can I assume that the "Iovine" in her name is as in Jimmy Iovine, the record company executive?
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Look at the first message on page 7
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Jan 27 2005, 05:53 PM\'][quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Jan 27 2005, 05:38 PM\']Saw the "THS" last night. What I found interesting is that Vicki McCarty Iovine didn't hold and doesn't hold a grudge against Vanna for beating her out of the job and supposedly is friends with her. That's what I call a secure ego.
Can I assume that the "Iovine" in her name is as in Jimmy Iovine, the record company executive?
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That's what happens when these threads get too damn long. :)
And let me say that if I were Merv, I probably would've picked Vicki because I prefer sassy--she and Sajak could've been able to really play off each other. But, of course, "Wheel" may not've become what it's become, for good or bad, so who knows?
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As long as you don't get Jim Caldwell's analys, you'll be OK.
I hear it's more a prob that should be dealt with by chiropracty. :-D
Chuck Donegan (The Caldwell-Quoting "Chuckie Baby")