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After seeing Ken's gracious exit, were there any times where an uncomfortable incident occurred (refused to leave, didn't take losing well, etc)
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 06:59 AM\']After seeing Ken's gracious exit, were there any times where an uncomfortable incident occurred (refused to leave, didn't take losing well, etc)
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We reported in ATGS about kids who cried upon losing on Runaround and on Fun House. Heatter-Quigley apparently awarded the contestant who cried on Runaround the prize anyway.
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 06:59 AM\']After seeing Ken's gracious exit, were there any times where an uncomfortable incident occurred (refused to leave, didn't take losing well, etc)
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The most uncomfortable I can recall was the man on "Friend or Foe" who cursed up a storm after he lost all the money to someone who went foe to his friend. It made it on one of the MOGSM specials, too.
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The time on Syndicated Millionaire when they showd a surprised and shocked look on Merle Glickman's face when she lost the question on Kaula Lampour (sp?). They didn't show her telling Meredith off. I was in the studio audience to see it.
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Andy Kaufman on DG. Funnee stuff.
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Felix Unger on "Password".
Oh...you mean something that WASN'T scripted! How about that lady on "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" who blew the $500,000 question on the answer "Tonga" (sorry, can't remember her name). That episode has been run on GSN. The uncomfortable part is that she was very upset, walked off the stage in a bit of a huff and didn't even want to talk to her husband.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 10:32 AM\']Felix Unger on "Password".
Oh...you mean something that WASN'T scripted! How about that lady on "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" who blew the $500,000 question on the answer "Tonga" (sorry, can't remember her name). That episode has been run on GSN. The uncomfortable part is that she was very upset, walked off the stage in a bit of a huff and didn't even want to talk to her husband.
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Her name was Kati Knudsen, the gold standard for an uncomfortable exit.
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[quote name=\'inturnaround\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 07:52 AM\'][quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 06:59 AM\']After seeing Ken's gracious exit, were there any times where an uncomfortable incident occurred (refused to leave, didn't take losing well, etc)
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The most uncomfortable I can recall was the man on "Friend or Foe" who cursed up a storm after he lost all the money to someone who went foe to his friend. It made it on one of the MOGSM specials, too.
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And if you can mention that, can we add Jim Hess too (though you'd need good ears to allow that to qualify, I suppose)?
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There was a young lady on CBS TJW named Isa that cried when she lost. Jack tried to pretend nothing was happening, other than to say "I can see you're a little upset" and reminded her she still won prizes.
There was a lady on Blockbusters, who was part of the family pair. Her answer was not accepted, because her pronunciation was WAY off, but when they said "no", she looked visibly pissed off, giving the producers an evil eye, and looked very angry when they lost.
On MG 90, during Halloween week, there was a contestant that gave the answer "lubricant", but the answer "oil" was not accepted (because lubricant was a general answer, and oil was more specific) but most of the panel said oil. He looked upset, but Ross explained they couldn't match general answers with specific ones. (Using the logic of matching "food" with any food the panel might mention)
On one ep. of TPIR, there was a guy that showed no interest at all when he was called on down, and his demeanor was no different when he lost on Hole in One, and later won the showcase.
On another TPIR, there was a 10 Chances player that cursed when she got a price wrong. Bob laughed and said "I'm glad have the mike, because I heard what you said!"
On The All New LMAD, there was a lady dressed as a clown. She was offered 500 dollars or a curtain, and sensing there was something better than 500 dollars, chose the curtain, and got zonked with 3 pigs. Monty saw she was upset and tried to console her. At the end of the show, Monty approached her and asked her 3 very simple questions about the 3 little pigs, and she ended up winning 300 dollars. She was happy after that.
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 06:59 AM\']After seeing Ken's gracious exit, were there any times where an uncomfortable incident occurred (refused to leave, didn't take losing well, etc)
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I'm not sure if it was shown on air; but apparently after a taping of Joker, Joker, Joker a kid started to cry after he lost--and Jack gave him the prizes.
Bull if you ask me, he deserved the case of Free-Z-Pops just as much as the next guy.
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Just thought of another one: Herb Stemple.
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Dawn McKellar, in the early NBC SOTC run, was going for a $99,000 jackpot, when she lost by $2. You can tell she was tearing and ready to burst crying.
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The most uncomfortable I can recall was the man on "Friend or Foe" who cursed up a storm after he lost all the money to someone who went foe to his friend. It made it on one of the MOGSM specials, too.
I was home sick yesterday and watched FoF... and the guy who got shafted out of his share of nearly $10K was not a happy camper. The guy who went Foe? The infamous "Hollywood Dave"...
Oh and I'll vouch for Fun House crying too... when I chatted to Pat Sharp (the UK host) a few years ago, he said that was about the only problem there was with the show.
Cheers,
Ryan :)
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[quote name=\'goongas\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 11:55 AM\'][quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 10:32 AM\']Felix Unger on "Password".
Oh...you mean something that WASN'T scripted! How about that lady on "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" who blew the $500,000 question on the answer "Tonga" (sorry, can't remember her name). That episode has been run on GSN. The uncomfortable part is that she was very upset, walked off the stage in a bit of a huff and didn't even want to talk to her husband.
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Her name was Kati Knudsen, the gold standard for an uncomfortable exit.
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Wasn't she the one who spent an inordinate amount of time on her decision while Regis fought with his inclination to wring her by the neck?
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On one ep. of TPIR, there was a guy that showed no interest at all when he was called on down, and his demeanor was no different when he lost on Hole in One, and later won the showcase.
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There was a man on TPIR on Columbus Day 1999 who won a Cadillac in 3 Strikes and then $11k in the SCSD and acted like he didn't know what was going on.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 02:21 PM\']Wasn't she the one who spent an inordinate amount of time on her decision while Regis fought with his inclination to wring her by the neck?
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Yep. Kati was phishing Regis for the answers. She'd start with one answer, then the next, then the next until Regis would seem to acknowledge that she was finally on the right one, and she'd go ahead.
Worked out great on a low level question where Reege actually knew the answer, and would help contestants out. Not so good at a high level where Reege had no clue.
One of my all time favourite Millionaire moments was watching her go down hard. :)
Vtown, who's the "infamous Hollywood Dave" Should I know him? Never heard of him.
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[quote name=\'Gromit\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 05:59 PM\']Vtown, who's the "infamous Hollywood Dave" Should I know him? Never heard of him.
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He's referring to "Hollywood Dave" Stann, former World Series Of Blackjack contestant and current Celebrity Blackjack dealer.
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Actually, I'm gonna SHOW you my pick.
http://www.jrjgames.com/main/promos/inn.rm (http://\"http://www.jrjgames.com/main/promos/inn.rm\")
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I'm trying to figure whether I'm thinking of the right person...did Kati have a really obvious question about Presidents that she spent about fifteen minutes on?
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Steve...
$250,000: The 18th, 19th and 20th US presidents all hailed from what state?
She finally decided on Ohio.
I dunno if I would call it obvious.
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I think I heard somewhere here that a contestant on Jeopardy broke down at her podium when she got the right answer, but failed to phrase it in form of a question, thus losing the game.
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[quote name=\'Chief-O\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 08:16 PM\']Actually, I'm gonna SHOW you my pick.
http://www.jrjgames.com/main/promos/inn.rm (http://\"http://www.jrjgames.com/main/promos/inn.rm\")
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Yeah, I was never thrilled about her behavior either.....
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[quote name=\'Chief-O\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 07:16 PM\']Actually, I'm gonna SHOW you my pick.
http://www.jrjgames.com/main/promos/inn.rm (http://\"http://www.jrjgames.com/main/promos/inn.rm\")
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Man, talk about kowtowing to pressure. Clearly she only earned $900 for that playing, as the buzzer sounded a good half-second before she said "inn." To award the $20,000 just like that was plain and simply wrong (not that I had any control over the situation anyway).
Thanks for linking the clip, Chief (and thanks to John R. for housing it).
Doug
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From what I heard, one contestant on Classic Concentration cursed after falling just short in the car game. And we have that other player who totally bombed it on purpose.
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[quote name=\'bandit_bobby\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 07:38 PM\']And we have that other player who totally bombed it on purpose.
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Someone wanna give me the details of this, preferably in such a way as to convince me that this kid isn't speaking ex-rectum yet again?
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[quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 08:29 PM\']Steve...
$250,000: The 18th, 19th and 20th US presidents all hailed from what state?
She finally decided on Ohio.
I dunno if I would call it obvious.
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Now I remember...it wasn't so much that the answer was obvious (hell, it wasn't) as that she was totally off on either who those presidents were or what years they were in office.
Yeah, I wanted to wring her neck, too.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 10:17 PM\'][quote name=\'bandit_bobby\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 07:38 PM\']And we have that other player who totally bombed it on purpose.
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Someone wanna give me the details of this, preferably in such a way as to convince me that this kid isn't speaking ex-rectum yet again?
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One guy purposely lost the bonus game and defended doing that in order to win more maingame prizes. IIRC he lost his next game afterward, and blew a free car.
I remember seeing some contestants make their bonus round matches so as to leave the car they most wanted to win for last. Those contestants virtually always ended up losing the bonus round.
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I NEVER want to see this (http://\"http://www.davidzinkin.com/moments.jpg\") on the front page again.
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I looked at the Super Password clip, and didn't the contestant was acting badly. It seemed to me like she was playing around, because she was making nice with Constance McCashin while it happened. She didn't look like she expected to be given $20,000.
One guy purposely lost the bonus game and defended doing that in order to win more maingame prizes. IIRC he lost his next game afterward, and blew a free car.
The maingame prizes must have been really good if he was willing to risk a car for them.
I remember seeing some contestants make their bonus round matches so as to leave the car they most wanted to win for last. Those contestants virtually always ended up losing the bonus round.
What kind of cars did they give away on Classic Concentration? I would understand it if they had Escorts and DeVilles on the same board. Otherwise, just take what you can get and sell it later.
By the way, didn't some guy get beat by the buzzer twice on Wheel of Fortune, once in the Speed Round, and again in the Bonus Round? I remember him being especially sore because he lost $100,000. Not fun to watch.
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[quote name=\'STYDfan\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 10:54 PM\']I looked at the Super Password clip, and didn't the contestant was acting badly. It seemed to me like she was playing around, because she was making nice with Constance McCashin while it happened. She didn't look like she expected to be given $20,000.
What kind of cars did they give away on Classic Concentration? I would understand it if they had Escorts and DeVilles on the same board. Otherwise, just take what you can get and sell it later.
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They had cars ranging from the cheapest $6K-$7K econobox(Geo, Hyundai, and even a Yugo once or twice) through Jeeps and sports cars and low end Cadillacs(Cimarrons). The TofC had the cars a tad higher end than that.
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[quote name=\'STYDfan\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 09:54 PM\']I looked at the Super Password clip, and didn't the contestant was acting badly. It seemed to me like she was playing around, because she was making nice with Constance McCashin while it happened. She didn't look like she expected to be given $20,000.
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When you glare in the producer's direction twice (including once where you say, "Check it again!") I don't think that's acting sportsmanlike at all--she didn't smile at all while addressing the judges, it was only after she turned around to face Bert and Constance that she smiled as if she was kidding (once I could live with, but twice I think was going too far). I think there's a better way to approach it (a toned down request would've scored a lot more points in my book). Or let the host make that call to recheck the tape (as Dick Clark did several times on PYRAMID)--that wasn't her place to do that.
Frankly, I thought the judges were a little pathetic in not standing their ground, as the response was very clearly after the buzzer. And this was from a little less than a year into the run, meaning you (as the producer/judge/jury) have set yourself up to have to award beaucoups de cash every time a contestant is a fraction of a second late with a response. ("You did it for someone in July 1985! Why didn't you do that for me?!")
Water under the bridge, I realize, but questionable decision in my view.
Doug
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When you glare in the producer's direction twice (including once where you say, "Check it again!") I don't think that's acting sportsmanlike at all...
It's all objective, anyways. To me, it was painfully obvious that she was kidding, playing desperate. She even asked if they would give it to her if she "smiled big." (heh heh heh)
Frankly, I thought the judges were a little pathetic in not standing their ground, as the response was very clearly after the buzzer.
That I agree with. What really stuck in my craw was that they left the fate of $20,000 in a very partial observer...Bert Convy! He even said, "Keep everything crossed. I'll do the best I can." Try your best to do what??? Be fair? Bert looked like the hero, signed off quickly, and everyone left happy. I'm very surprised S&P wasn't asking some questions later. Of course, this is the same show that let a convict play for $55,000, so I'm really not surprised.
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 11:20 PM\'][quote name=\'STYDfan\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 09:54 PM\']I looked at the Super Password clip, and didn't the contestant was acting badly. It seemed to me like she was playing around, because she was making nice with Constance McCashin while it happened. She didn't look like she expected to be given $20,000.
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When you glare in the producer's direction twice (including once where you say, "Check it again!") I don't think that's acting sportsmanlike at all--she didn't smile at all while addressing the judges, it was only after she turned around to face Bert and Constance that she smiled as if she was kidding (once I could live with, but twice I think was going too far). I think there's a better way to approach it (a toned down request would've scored a lot more points in my book). Or let the host make that call to recheck the tape (as Dick Clark did several times on PYRAMID)--that wasn't her place to do that.
Frankly, I thought the judges were a little pathetic in not standing their ground, as the response was very clearly after the buzzer. And this was from a little less than a year into the run, meaning you (as the producer/judge/jury) have set yourself up to have to award beaucoups de cash every time a contestant is a fraction of a second late with a response. ("You did it for someone in July 1985! Why didn't you do that for me?!")
Water under the bridge, I realize, but questionable decision in my view.
Doug
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I can't really agree about the contestant. It's not like she was psycho aggressive or anything; she just let her adrenalin get away from her. Hell I'm worse when my bluff is challenged off the board during a friendly game of Scrabble. Also, it wouldn't have been harmful to their budget to be lenient on the buzzer, in fact just the opposite. Due to the jackpot structure of the endgame, it cost them less money to have winners than to have losers, since they didn't have to pay out consolation money.
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[quote name=\'goongas\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 08:24 AM\']The time on Syndicated Millionaire when they showd a surprised and shocked look on Merle Glickman's face when she lost the question on Kaula Lampour (sp?). They didn't show her telling Meredith off. I was in the studio audience to see it.
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I remember seeing that on TV, and I noticed how the show quickly faded to black - she told Meredith Vieira off??? What was there to say? She was WRONG!
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[quote name=\'STYDfan\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 08:54 PM\']The maingame prizes must have been really good if he was willing to risk a car for them.
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It wasn't that so much as a lot of the cars sucked. :)
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 11:20 PM\'][quote name=\'STYDfan\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 09:54 PM\']I looked at the Super Password clip, and didn't the contestant was acting badly. It seemed to me like she was playing around, because she was making nice with Constance McCashin while it happened. She didn't look like she expected to be given $20,000.
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When you glare in the producer's direction twice (including once where you say, "Check it again!") I don't think that's acting sportsmanlike at all--she didn't smile at all while addressing the judges, it was only after she turned around to face Bert and Constance that she smiled as if she was kidding (once I could live with, but twice I think was going too far). I think there's a better way to approach it (a toned down request would've scored a lot more points in my book). Or let the host make that call to recheck the tape (as Dick Clark did several times on PYRAMID)--that wasn't her place to do that.
Frankly, I thought the judges were a little pathetic in not standing their ground, as the response was very clearly after the buzzer. And this was from a little less than a year into the run, meaning you (as the producer/judge/jury) have set yourself up to have to award beaucoups de cash every time a contestant is a fraction of a second late with a response. ("You did it for someone in July 1985! Why didn't you do that for me?!")
Water under the bridge, I realize, but questionable decision in my view.
Doug
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I just saw said clip.
Leaving any decision to the host is due to be good news for the contestant...I do not remember any instances where the otherwise occured.
Speaking of this moment setting the precendent (I am sure that Mike Klauss can back me on this, for I saw this clip through his former website), wasn't a contestant awarded $30,000 in a situation mirroring this one?
The Inquisitive One
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 09:21 PM\']Man, talk about kowtowing to pressure. Clearly she only earned $900 for that playing, as the buzzer sounded a good half-second before she said "inn." To award the $20,000 just like that was plain and simply wrong (not that I had any control over the situation anyway).
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Bullcrap if you ask me. The host who made many on air-flubbers was given the power to make that decision?
*grumbles*
It wasn't that so much as a lot of the cars sucked.
Two words: Saburau Justy
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Now, hold on a minute here...did they really let Bert make that decision, or did they just make it sound that way because they thought it "made for better television?"
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It wasn't that so much as a lot of the cars sucked.
Two words: Saburau Justy
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Don't forget CC gave away YUgos, the lowest on the car chain at the time. I think they were the only game show to offer Yugos.
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[quote name=\'STYDfan\' date=\'Dec 3 2004, 12:57 AM\']
That I agree with. What really stuck in my craw was that they left the fate of $20,000 in a very partial observer...Bert Convy! Of course, this is the same show that let a convict play for $55,000, so I'm really not surprised.
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In the case of Ketchem/Quinn, they didn't know he was a convict when he was playing on the show. Someone who recognized him on the show called MGP. Did he ever get to cash in his check after he got hauled off to jail after going to NBC Burbank to pick it up?
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>>>Clearly she only earned $900 for that playing, as the buzzer sounded a good half-second before she said "inn." To award the $20,000 just like that was plain and simply wrong (not that I had any control over the situation anyway).
Maybe they decided to give her the big bucks, because she shouted "inn" *during* the buzzer???
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Wasn't she the one who spent an inordinate amount of time on her decision while Regis fought with his inclination to wring her by the neck?
She was on two shows. In the show in which she lost, it took over 20 minutes of air time for her to get through three questions. According to reports at the time, it actually took her close to an hour of studio time just to answer one of those questions. I would have hated to be in the studio audience for that...
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Dec 3 2004, 09:47 AM\']
She was on two shows. In the show in which she lost, it took over 20 minutes of air time for her to get through three questions. According to reports at the time, it actually took her close to an hour of studio time just to answer one of those questions. I would have hated to be in the studio audience for that...
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Knudsen doesn't hold the record for the longest studio time to answer a question. I think there was a lady on Syndie Millionaire who took at least an hour to answer one question. We saw "Much Later" and "Much Much Later" graphics on the screen, unlike with Knudsen's question.
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[quote name=\'geno57\' date=\'Dec 3 2004, 08:11 AM\']Maybe they decided to give her the big bucks, because she shouted "inn" *during* the buzzer???
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Perhaps it's that I'm conditioned to watching basketball, but if a shooter still has the ball in his hands when the clock hits 0.0 and the lights go on and the buzzer sounds and then while the buzzer is sounding he heaves a desperation shot that goes in, does it count? No. Shouldn't have here, either. ("He" in this case being used colloquially, works just as well for women's basketball.)
Maybe I was a little harsh on the contestant. I'm still not fond of what she did, but I can see the opposite point of view. But the judging was very lax in my view, no matter how you slice it (and while Parliboy [sorry, don't know your real name, otherwise I'd call you by that] brings up a point about the prize budget costing them less for winners than for losers, it's still clearly money that wasn't earned but merely given--sets up a bad precedent in my eyes).
Doug
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Dec 3 2004, 12:21 PM\']Perhaps it's that I'm conditioned to watching basketball, but if a shooter still has the ball in his hands when the clock hits 0.0 and the lights go on and the buzzer sounds and then while the buzzer is sounding he heaves a desperation shot that goes in, does it count? No. Shouldn't have here, either. ("He" in this case being used colloquially, works just as well for women's basketball.)
Doug
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Different sports have different rules. For hockey and soccer it has to be in the net at the expiration of time.
Game shows also vary from show to show, whether your answer counts if it came in at the start of the buzzer, was done by the completion of the buzzer, or whatever other permutations you can come up with or in the cases of Dawson's Family Feud, the clock was there for decoration purposes only.
--Mike
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Dec 3 2004, 12:23 PM\']Game shows also vary from show to show, whether your answer counts if it came in at the start of the buzzer, was done by the completion of the buzzer, or whatever other permutations you can come up with or in the cases of Dawson's Family Feud, the clock was there for decoration purposes only.
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Good point. I'm sure that FF was a lot more stringent with the clock early on, but time grew and Dawson started allowing answers after the buzzer (and since it was done more often than not, at least Dawson was somewhat consistent in allowing it to happen). Of course, there wasn't one "right" answer to a question in Fast Money. And on a number of occasions, the fifth answer wasn't the difference between $5K/$10K and $5 a point (either they won it beforehand, or the answer wasn't going to give it to them anyway).
I'm hard-pressed to recall whether this happened on multiple occasions on SP and whether the judging was consistent each time (if it was, then at least I have less of a problem with the money being awarded). My inclination is that in most situations, if it was too late, it was too late. But if I'm wrong, so be it.
Doug
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Does slashing someone's tires in the Sony parking lot count?
Not saying that was me, Ken....
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 3 2004, 08:02 AM\'][quote name=\'STYDfan\' date=\'Dec 3 2004, 12:57 AM\']
That I agree with. What really stuck in my craw was that they left the fate of $20,000 in a very partial observer...Bert Convy! Of course, this is the same show that let a convict play for $55,000, so I'm really not surprised.
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In the case of Ketchem/Quinn, they didn't know he was a convict when he was playing on the show. Someone who recognized him on the show called MGP. Did he ever get to cash in his check after he got hauled off to jail after going to NBC Burbank to pick it up?
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It wasn't Burbank--it was the MGP offices where he got nabbed, as I recall from seeing the story on CNN--and that was an easy story to cover, since, IIRC, their LA bureau was in the same building as MGP (and Hatos-Hall).
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Dec 3 2004, 03:09 PM\']It wasn't Burbank--it was the MGP offices where he got nabbed, as I recall from seeing the story on CNN--and that was an easy story to cover, since, IIRC, their LA bureau was in the same building as MGP (and Hatos-Hall).
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Correct, according to the 1989 World Almanac...it made their "Off-Beat News Stories" section.
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Along the lines of "Super Password" discomfort, for those who have seen Carl Mueller lose the $50,000 prize by about half a second (the day before Marjorie Coster's $55,000 win with Janis Paige), did anyone else see that there was an obvious edit almost immediately after the round was over? Bert then says that they'll check the tape and see if Carl got the last answer on time. Going into the commercial, Carl says to Bert, "Bert, I'm sorry if I contradicted you." For my money, if they gave the 20K to the aforementioned Holly in 1985, then they certainly should have given the 50K to Carl, since he was closer to the buzzer than Holly was.
For uncomfortable contestant moments on "Pyramid," one time on the 100K in 1988, Lori Palmadessi (spelling?) blanked out on who Jerry Lewis was. When Dick elaborated on it after the round was over, she said, "But you don't really have to rub it in." Then Dick said, "Do you want to know what's really on my mind?" to which Lori said, "No."
Brendan
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[quote name=\'pyrfan\' date=\'Dec 4 2004, 02:16 PM\']For uncomfortable contestant moments on "Pyramid," one time on the 100K in 1988, Lori Palmadessi (spelling?) blanked out on who Jerry Lewis was. When Dick elaborated on it after the round was over, she said, "But you don't really have to rub it in." Then Dick said, "Do you want to know what's really on my mind?" to which Lori said, "No."
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That reminds of the big loss on Whammy!, when Ami lost $25,000 on the last spin. She was inconsolable after that, though Newton tried.
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In the case of Ketchem/Quinn, they didn't know he was a convict when he was playing on the show. Someone who recognized him on the show called MGP. Did he ever get to cash in his check after he got hauled off to jail after going to NBC Burbank to pick it up?
Yep...according to producer Bobby Sherman, he used it for his legal defense fund.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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One guy purposely lost the bonus game and defended doing that in order to win more maingame prizes. IIRC he lost his next game afterward, and blew a free car.
Yep...and as if that weren't enough, he'd already lost the endgame on purpose once before, on the previous day's ep...to pass up a car TWICE, especially when you've got one strike against you, is just plain stupid.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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Arte Johnson once gonged a comely contestant on The Gong Show and she promply burst into tears. Chuck Barris brought her back later in the show when she composed herself.
Mike Evans, the original Lionel Jefferson from The Jeffersons stormed off the set after losing on Password All-Stars. He was the only celebrity not on camera as they rolled the closing credits.
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[quote name=\'alfonzos\' date=\'Dec 5 2004, 07:41 PM\']Arte Johnson once gonged a comely contestant on The Gong Show and she promply burst into tears. Chuck Barris brought her back later in the show when she composed herself.
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That's nothing compared to performance artist Pearl Burnett (who about nine years later appeared on LETTERMAN). Her act consisted of cutting paper ribbons while singing a very off-key rendition of "Tie A Yellow Ribbon." Understandably, she was gonged. When pressed for the reason from Chuckie, Jaye P. Morgan responded, "She should tie that yellow ribbon around her neck." (BTW, that quote was attributed to someone else in Chuckie's book The Game Show King, but it was Jaye who actually said it.)
Burnett acted shocked and demanded that Jaye repeat what she said. Jaye repeated a slightly toned-down version of it, and Burnett furiously said to Chuckie, "I want that deleted from the show." Barris gave a little mocking face toward the camera, waved her off and threw it to commercial.
GONG had a few incidents like that, although I think Burnett's probably tops the list of least gracious exits.
Doug
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[quote name=\'alfonzos\' date=\'Dec 5 2004, 08:41 PM\']Arte Johnson once gonged a comely contestant on The Gong Show and she promply burst into tears. Chuck Barris brought her back later in the show when she composed herself.
Mike Evans, the original Lionel Jefferson from The Jeffersons stormed off the set after losing on Password All-Stars. He was the only celebrity not on camera as they rolled the closing credits.
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I don't recall if he was losing the game at that point, but Bill Shatner, for no apparent reason, left the premises midway through a mid-90s celeb episode of WOF, and was replaced with some soap actress for the rest of the game.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 5 2004, 09:08 PM\']I don't recall if he was losing the game at that point, but Bill Shatner, for no apparent reason, left the premises midway through a mid-90s celeb episode of WOF, and was replaced with some soap actress for the rest of the game.
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If Shatner were losing, he might have left because there were no chairs to throw, like there were on Pyramid. (How'd we go so long without bringing THAT up?)
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I don't recall if he was losing the game at that point, but Bill Shatner, for no apparent reason, left the premises midway through a mid-90s celeb episode of WOF, and was replaced with some soap actress for the rest of the game.
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Good thing Wheel doesn't have chairs. Maybe Scotty beamed him up?
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[quote name=\'MrBuddwing\' date=\'Dec 3 2004, 02:12 AM\'][quote name=\'goongas\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 08:24 AM\']The time on Syndicated Millionaire when they showd a surprised and shocked look on Merle Glickman's face when she lost the question on Kaula Lampour (sp?). They didn't show her telling Meredith off. I was in the studio audience to see it.
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I remember seeing that on TV, and I noticed how the show quickly faded to black - she told Meredith Vieira off??? What was there to say? She was WRONG!
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She shouted at Meredith, "why didn't you slow me down!" Meredith was stunned and didn't know what to say. They took Merle away and Meredith taped a "We will be right back" after Merle left.
Reading the official rules afterward or the next year, they state something to the effect of taking away your winnings if you are rude to any staff member of the show.
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[quote name=\'goongas\' date=\'Dec 5 2004, 07:30 PM\']Reading the official rules afterward or the next year, they state something to the effect of taking away your winnings if you are rude to any staff member of the show.
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LOL! Are you serious? IMO, It's ridiculous that they even have to have a rule like that.
Although I must say I'm a touch disappointed that Meredith didn't yell right back at her. That's just me, though.
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Dec 5 2004, 09:01 PM\'][quote name=\'alfonzos\' date=\'Dec 5 2004, 07:41 PM\']Arte Johnson once gonged a comely contestant on The Gong Show and she promply burst into tears. Chuck Barris brought her back later in the show when she composed herself.
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That's nothing compared to performance artist Pearl Burnett (who about nine years later appeared on LETTERMAN). Her act consisted of cutting paper ribbons while singing a very off-key rendition of "Tie A Yellow Ribbon." Understandably, she was gonged. When pressed for the reason from Chuckie, Jaye P. Morgan responded, "She should tie that yellow ribbon around her neck." (BTW, that quote was attributed to someone else in Chuckie's book The Game Show King, but it was Jaye who actually said it.)
Burnett acted shocked and demanded that Jaye repeat what she said. Jaye repeated a slightly toned-down version of it, and Burnett furiously said to Chuckie, "I want that deleted from the show." Barris gave a little mocking face toward the camera, waved her off and threw it to commercial.
GONG had a few incidents like that, although I think Burnett's probably tops the list of least gracious exits.
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Not really a graceless exit, but I do remember the singing contestant who kept dodging the gorilla paw that took some contestants offstage mid-number (and this was after no doubt being told in the briefing that they'd pay $200 to anyone who had the paw take them off--this was mentioned in at least one article about the show). She finished her number without the paw touching her and the judges were forced to rate her (with S&P no doubt in full stern mode). Not surprisingly, no one gonged her, probably because they wanted to see what would happen next.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Dec 7 2004, 05:58 PM\']Not really a graceless exit, but I do remember the singing contestant who kept dodging the gorilla paw that took some contestants offstage mid-number (and this was after no doubt being told in the briefing that they'd pay $200 to anyone who had the paw take them off--this was mentioned in at least one article about the show). She finished her number without the paw touching her and the judges were forced to rate her (with S&P no doubt in full stern mode). Not surprisingly, no one gonged her, probably because they wanted to see what would happen next.
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Now you've sparked something (as huge a GONG fan as I was I was unaware that "non-contestants" got a $200 appearance fee). One GONG episode (aired late March/early April 1978) featured Melvin Presar (later to appear in TheGong Show Movie), doing a medley of "How Much Is That Doggie In The Window?" (complete with musical barking) and "In The Mood" (taking Ray Stevens' chicken-clucking version and swinging it). Just as he's finishing "Doggie", the stagehand better known as Frere Jacques leads him away (meaning he was intended as non-contestant talent, and thus [probably] entitled to the appearance fee). Barris then intercedes and tells him to come back out and finish the act.
He does, and is rewarded with several "One more time!" requests by Barris (I believe he then collapses from exhaustion bakcstage in the movie). Needless to say, the three judges (the Unknown Comic, Jaye and Pat McCormick) all give him perfect scores. It should be pointed out that Presar had appeared once before on GONG about five months earlier, doing a completely different act--and Jaye and Pat were judges on that show (and the UC was in the studio to do his usual once-a-week put down of Chuckie in a subsequent taping). He got gonged.
Now, the kicker. The next act (all-girl rock band the L.A. Lacers) also wind up getting a perfect score. At the end of the program, as the audience is chanting "One more time!" at the sight of Presar (I gotta think the chants were live, not McKenzied), Barris announces, "The celebrities have decided the winner, and no matter who it is we're giving a check and a trophy to both of you!"
I wonder if S&P were in full stern mode here too--here was an act who was (probably) also supposed to be "non-contestant", but this time Barris was the one who defied them (unlike the lady who defied the gorilla paw). And I'm guessing the "tie" for the winner and the awarding of checks and trophies to both was covering Chuckie's rear end, so to speak (not saying any rigging was going on; of course, almost everything went out the window on GONG).
Granted, completely different topic--but I thought an interesting anecdote nonetheless. Carry on. :)
Doug
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[quote name=\'goongas\' date=\'Dec 5 2004, 10:30 PM\']She shouted at Meredith, "why didn't you slow me down!"
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That's what I like. Someone gets an answer wrong and opts to blame someone else. Bad karma.
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[quote name=\'goongas\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 08:24 AM\']The time on Syndicated Millionaire when they showd a surprised and shocked look on Merle Glickman's face when she lost the question on Kaula Lampour (sp?). They didn't show her telling Meredith off. I was in the studio audience to see it.
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What was the question?
And what did Merle say to Meredith?
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[quote name=\'Alex K\' date=\'Dec 8 2004, 02:38 AM\'][quote name=\'goongas\' date=\'Dec 2 2004, 08:24 AM\']The time on Syndicated Millionaire when they showd a surprised and shocked look on Merle Glickman's face when she lost the question on Kaula Lampour (sp?). They didn't show her telling Meredith off. I was in the studio audience to see it.
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What was the question?
And what did Merle say to Meredith?
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The question had to do with where the world's tallest skyscraper is located. I think the contestant said "Singapore" when the correct answer was Kuala Lumpur.
As for what the contestant said, see post #59 of this thread.
I remember how the contestant, an older woman, seemed positively giddy as she skated from one question to the next - and how, when she breezed into the incorrect answer on the skyscraper, her face fell and the show quickly faded to black.
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Although I didn't see any of her appearances, I would have to think "Jeopardy!" champ "Barbara Lowe" (or whatever her real name is) would certainly qualify under uncomfortable moments, as I understand that she challenged a judge's ruling on the air at least once. Oh, and also the fact that she was later found to be ineligible because of too many appearances on other shows and then sued "Jeopardy!" when they tried to withhold their winnings. Did anyone see any of her appearances?
Brendan
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[quote name=\'pyrfan\' date=\'Dec 8 2004, 03:43 PM\']Although I didn't see any of her appearances, I would have to think "Jeopardy!" champ "Barbara Lowe" (or whatever her real name is) would certainly qualify under uncomfortable moments, as I understand that she challenged a judge's ruling on the air at least once. Oh, and also the fact that she was later found to be ineligible because of too many appearances on other shows and then sued "Jeopardy!" when they tried to withhold their winnings. Did anyone see any of her appearances?
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I remember her appearances on Bullseye and commented about what a stuck-up (enter expletive deleted here) she was. She may think she got away with stuff, but while she's burning in the afterlife in the netherworld of all darkness and no dawning, she will then fully realize the error of her ways. But, alas, too late. Too late.
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In a 1988 episode of WOF in the bonus round, the category was place, the puzzle was NICE, ITALY. The girl had R S T L N E C D M A, I believe... She pronounced Nice like with kindness, not like the Italy city. When it was revealed (she ran out of time) Pat was like ughhh u were so close, then she goes "THATS WHAT I SAID" Pat said it's actually pronounced N-ee-ce, not N-i-ce, and she was like, but it's spelled like NICE... Pat goes... ughh, we'll have the judges talk about it and be right back with their decision after this... You could tell she was mad, and that Pat wanted to go to commercial as quickly as possible...
She didn't get it, of course, and she shouldn't have... that must have been most awkward for Pat though... she lost the $25000 if anyone was interested.
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[quote name=\'wheelloon\' date=\'Dec 8 2004, 10:00 PM\']In a 1988 episode of WOF in the bonus round, the category was place, the puzzle was NICE, ITALY. The girl had R S T L N E C D M A
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The puzzle was Milan, Italy. She didn't pronounce Milan correctly and was ruled incorrect. GSN aired this episode three times in the last few years.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 8 2004, 10:51 PM\'][quote name=\'wheelloon\' date=\'Dec 8 2004, 10:00 PM\']In a 1988 episode of WOF in the bonus round, the category was place, the puzzle was NICE, ITALY. The girl had R S T L N E C D M A
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The puzzle was Milan, Italy. She didn't pronounce Milan correctly and was ruled incorrect. GSN aired this episode three times in the last few years.
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I believe Nice is in France. I was there once. It was Nice to be there. To be there...Nice.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 8 2004, 10:51 PM\'][quote name=\'wheelloon\' date=\'Dec 8 2004, 10:00 PM\']In a 1988 episode of WOF in the bonus round, the category was place, the puzzle was NICE, ITALY. The girl had R S T L N E C D M A
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If the answer was Nice (rhymes with niece) and she said Nice (rhymes with mice), then she was correct.
She should sue over that one.
If the answer was Milan and she mispronounced Milan, then I would have to know exactly what she said.
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[quote name=\'Alex K\' date=\'Dec 9 2004, 01:53 AM\']If the answer was Nice (rhymes with niece) and she said Nice (rhymes with mice), then she was correct.
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I bet the people who live there would beg to differ.
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The puzzle was Milan, Italy. She didn't pronounce Milan correctly and was ruled incorrect. GSN aired this episode three times in the last few years.
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If the answer was Milan and she mispronounced Milan, then I would have to know exactly what she said.
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She pronounced it MILL-an IIRC, and not Mi-LAN.
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Was it milan????? I swear to god i thought it was Nice!!! Yes I remember seeing it a few times on GSN, so ur prolly right.
SORRY!!! BIG SCREW UP!!!! MY FAULT... :(
Though I do rememer sometime recently seeing the puzzle Nice, Italy on Wheel, whether it was an old one or not apparently I can't remember too well...
Either way the point was that Pat looked really uncomfortable, the girl was obviously angry (or at least from my point of view) about the puzzle, and it must have been a bit unnerving for him.
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Though I do rememer sometime recently seeing the puzzle Nice, Italy on Wheel, whether it was an old one or not apparently I can't remember too well...
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You might have seen a puzzle Nice, France, but not Nice, Italy, as Nice is in France(and since it's pronounced like Niece, it could have caused confusion in pronunciation)
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I don't know if the guy lost or not, but how about the guy from the pilot week of Jim Lange's Name That Tune who might have been the biggest jerk during Bid-A-Note I've ever seen? "I'm shaking... I'm sweating... 2 notes!"
He may not have lost (I don't remember), but he clearly made Jim and the opponent uncomfortable.
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[quote name=\'isucgv\' date=\'Dec 9 2004, 09:41 AM\']I don't know if the guy lost or not, but how about the guy from the pilot week of Jim Lange's Name That Tune who might have been the biggest jerk during Bid-A-Note I've ever seen? "I'm shaking... I'm sweating... 2 notes!"
He may not have lost (I don't remember), but he clearly made Jim and the opponent uncomfortable.
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Alfred was the man in question. As per a 1994 post in ATGS(back when Lange NTT was on FAM), he won the game but lost the Golden Medley.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Dec 8 2004, 11:45 PM\']I believe Nice is in France. I was there once. It was Nice to be there. To be there...Nice.
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To see you, its nice!
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 9 2004, 06:28 AM\'][quote name=\'Alex K\' date=\'Dec 9 2004, 01:53 AM\'][quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 8 2004, 10:51 PM\']
The puzzle was Milan, Italy. She didn't pronounce Milan correctly and was ruled incorrect. GSN aired this episode three times in the last few years.
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Wasn't there a Millionaire contestant who bombed a lower-tier question about how many wheels there are on a wheelbarrow?
She accidentally said 3, when she was going for 1. After realizing what she did, she cursed (and was censored).
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Yes, but she didn't accidentally say three, I don't think. She meant three, but perhaps mistook the two legs in the back for wheels.
(very paraphrased, but as I recall it...)
Meredith: How many wheels are usually on a wheelbarrow? One, two, three, four.
Contestant: ...C, three. Final answer.
Meredith: Oooh, no. It's not. It's one.
Contestant: What? Oh, s***! *covers mouth*
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Never mind that the wheelbarrow question was a bad question from the get-go. As I mentioned here at the time, I have a wheelbarrow with two wheels in my garage.
(To which one of the local wits replied, "Does it have three wheels outside your garage?")
Meredith said something like, "I don't blame you!" to the contestant.