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Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: Casey Buck on July 08, 2004, 08:21:54 PM: So far, Todd has only created the wide-angle shot, but so far, it looks incredible!

http://www.katymae.com/screenshots.html (http://\"http://www.katymae.com/screenshots.html\")
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: Kevin Prather on July 08, 2004, 08:45:02 PM: Wow! It's even better than the show!
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: clemon79 on July 08, 2004, 09:07:21 PM: The man's a damn wizard. The little things like the font can be fixed later...right now, excuse me while I drool... :)
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: ITSBRY on July 08, 2004, 11:31:40 PM: [quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jul 8 2004, 08:07 PM\']The man's a damn wizard. The little things like the font can be fixed later...right now, excuse me while I drool... :)[/quote]
Drool away Chris...this most definately looks drool-worthy! :-) WOW.

Can't wait to see the finished product. Keep up the great work Todd...you da man!!

ITSBRY
itsbry@juno.com
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: Brandon Brooks on July 08, 2004, 11:50:02 PM: [quote name=\'Casey Buck\' date=\'Jul 8 2004, 07:21 PM\'] So far, Todd has only created the wide-angle shot, but so far, it looks incredible!

http://www.katymae.com/screenshots.html (http://\"http://www.katymae.com/screenshots.html\") [/quote]
Holy Jesus.

Brandon Brooks
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: TLEberle on July 08, 2004, 11:58:19 PM: Quote
Whoserman said:
Wow! It's not totally accurate, but I think it's even better than the show!

You know what? I don't CARE. I can deal with the $100,000 being a different font, or the music being a bit off. If the game is half as good as the screenshot looks, I will queue up to get it just like everyone else. Feel free to make an error-free program, if you don't like it.

-Travis
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: Kevin Prather on July 09, 2004, 12:08:24 AM: Um, read my post again. I said the differences make it BETTER than the show. I was not nit-picking about anything, and I don't appreciate being slammed for no reason.
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: clemon79 on July 09, 2004, 12:16:16 AM: [quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Jul 8 2004, 09:08 PM\'] Um, read my post again. I said the differences make it BETTER than the show. I was not nit-picking about anything, and I don't appreciate being slammed for no reason. [/quote]
You might not have meant to, but when you phrase your comment the way you did: "it's not totally accurate, but", it comes off sounding like so much tactless whining.

At a minimum you are guilty of choosing your words poorly.
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: Kevin Prather on July 09, 2004, 12:23:23 AM: Ok, possibly my phrasing wasn't as good as it could've been. I've edited my post accordingly.
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: TLEberle on July 09, 2004, 12:45:29 AM: And now people are going to think I'm some kind of ogre that picks on people for no reason. Not true. I am indeed tired of the tactless whining wherein people bitch that the colors are wrong, the music change is in the wrong place, yet they still download the program.

Frankly, I do like the font better than the one used on the program. That I agree with.

-Travis
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: JasonA1 on July 09, 2004, 02:26:34 AM: Quote
I am indeed tired of the tactless whining wherein people bitch that the colors are wrong, the music change is in the wrong place, yet they still download the program

So true. Stuff as minor as "music fades here" kinda grinds on me. Agreeing here with Lemon, this is a very promising tidbit and with polish (just like FF) will be so above and beyond spectacular.

Where suggestions are allowed, IMHO, is where stuff is just plain wrong (SFX, format and the like).

-Jason
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: familyfeudfan on July 09, 2004, 02:42:06 AM: Wow, great job.
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: clemon79 on July 09, 2004, 02:45:55 AM: [quote name=\'JasonA1\' date=\'Jul 8 2004, 11:26 PM\'] Where this "whining" is allowed is where stuff is just plain wrong, such as SFX and the like.
[/quote]
No, it's never allowed. What did you pay for the software? Zippo. The lesson that needs to be learned, I will reiterate for the 47th time, is that there is a great difference between "You screwed up Feature X", and "Hey, great program, but I just thought I'd point something out about Feature X that I think can be better...what do you think?"

One is constructive criticism. The other is simply tactless. Todd knows this, and he knows the difference, but that doesn't make it right.
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: Pyramid80 on July 09, 2004, 08:17:03 AM: I know that the font looks a little off from the Clark version. But isn't that almost exact to the Davidson version?

*Excellent screenshot to say the least! I can't wait to see the finished product!
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: Particleman on July 09, 2004, 08:38:32 AM: Thanks for all the compliments, everyone. There's still some work to go: drawing chairs, lights, etc. but I thought you'd like to see at least what I had so far.

I don't want to make an issue out of the "whining" but I need to address it. Because I try to pay such close attention to detail, it's easy to pick out something that's inconsistant, no matter how small it may be. Believe me, I'm a game show fan as well and I really do want to know if there's something I can do to make my software better.

Just let me reitterate and sum up what Chris said. There's tactfulness and tactlessness. I know some of the tactless remarks aren't meant by the writer to be so critical but those of you who are coming across as "whiners" and don't mean to need to realize that in the business world, comments like that, intentional or not, can get you in a lot of trouble.
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: ITSBRY on July 09, 2004, 10:49:31 AM: [quote name=\'Particleman\' date=\'Jul 9 2004, 07:38 AM\']I don't want to make an issue out of the "whining" but I need to address it. Because I try to pay such close attention to detail, it's easy to pick out something that's inconsistant, no matter how small it may be. Believe me, I'm a game show fan as well and I really do want to know if there's something I can do to make my software better.[/quote]

I think this looks like the Davidson-era set with the Clark-era trilons on the big Pyramid. I always thought the Davidson set had a much more "finished" look and was in better overall proportion.

Great work...I am really looking forward to this! I can't wait to see how the set looks animated with lights, etc. I'm going to place a bet now that it'll beat Sierra's game.

No pressure Todd!! :-)

Can I ask...are you planning to do both the front game and WC?

ITSBRY
itsbry@juno.com
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: Particleman on July 09, 2004, 11:07:54 AM: [quote name=\'ITSBRY\' date=\'Jul 9 2004, 09:49 AM\'] [quote name=\'Particleman\' date=\'Jul 9 2004, 07:38 AM\']
Can I ask...are you planning to do both the front game and WC?

ITSBRY
itsbry@juno.com [/quote]
Oh yeah, we're going to be able to run a complete game when I'm done.
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: clemon79 on July 09, 2004, 11:27:28 AM: [quote name=\'ITSBRY\' date=\'Jul 9 2004, 07:49 AM\'] I'm going to place a bet now that it'll beat Sierra's game.
[/quote]
Taking NOTHING away from Todd's m4d sk|llz, but that's not exactly a hard bet to cover. ;)
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: cacLA8383 on July 09, 2004, 02:00:33 PM: one word...WOW
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: Kevin Prather on July 09, 2004, 02:27:38 PM: [quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jul 9 2004, 08:27 AM\'] [quote name=\'ITSBRY\' date=\'Jul 9 2004, 07:49 AM\'] I'm going to place a bet now that it'll beat Sierra's game.
[/quote]
Taking NOTHING away from Todd's m4d sk|llz, but that's not exactly a hard bet to cover. ;) [/quote]
No contest. If this $100K Pyramid game is as good as the Family Feud game, it'll be good enough for television use, IMO.

That would be pretty cool. In the end credits of a future $100K Pyramid revival, we see "Graphics Designer: Todd Robinson". :-)
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: aaron sica on July 09, 2004, 02:31:14 PM: This isn't totally accurate! There's no chairs in the winner's circle! What do they do, stand???

;)

I'm joking, of course. To say my mouth dropped to the ground when I saw the screenshot would be an understatement. You did an EXCELLENT job with this. I can't wait to download it and see it in action.

My only suggestions with this would be an option for some type of retro-pyramid with the solari boards as the timer and score instead of LED...

In any case, though, looks TERRIFIC!!!!!!!!
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: BrandonFG on July 09, 2004, 02:35:15 PM: [quote name=\'Casey Buck\' date=\'Jul 8 2004, 07:21 PM\'] So far, Todd has only created the wide-angle shot, but so far, it looks incredible!

http://www.katymae.com/screenshots.html (http://\"http://www.katymae.com/screenshots.html\") [/quote]
The Pyramid set looks incredible, but I can't get over the Feud shots. They look like you took them straight off the TV. Really nice work!

It reminds me of a poster who put some of his game show set recreations on a Yahoo page. I don't remember who it was, but the accuracy made my jaw drop (in both cases).
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: ITSBRY on July 09, 2004, 04:29:27 PM: [quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Jul 9 2004, 01:35 PM\'][quote name=\'Casey Buck\' date=\'Jul 8 2004, 07:21 PM\'] So far, Todd has only created the wide-angle shot, but so far, it looks incredible!

http://www.katymae.com/screenshots.html (http://\"http://www.katymae.com/screenshots.html\") [/quote]
The Pyramid set looks incredible, but I can't get over the Feud shots. They look like you took them straight off the TV. Really nice work!

It reminds me of a poster who put some of his game show set recreations on a Yahoo page. I don't remember who it was, but the accuracy made my jaw drop (in both cases).[/quote]

Not sure if you were talking about me or someone else. If they were mine, thanks for remembering. I wasted lots of hours on them.

If not, well, I hope you enjoy them anyway! :-)

http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/itsbryind...m/ph//my_photos (http://\"http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/itsbryindy/album?.dir=/4eaa&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos\")
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: aaron sica on July 09, 2004, 04:39:45 PM: [quote name=\'ITSBRY\' date=\'Jul 9 2004, 04:29 PM\'] Not sure if you were talking about me or someone else. If they were mine, thanks for remembering. I wasted lots of hours on them.

If not, well, I hope you enjoy them anyway! :-)

http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/itsbryind...m/ph//my_photos (http://\"http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/itsbryindy/album?.dir=/4eaa&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos\") [/quote]
Kudos to you too! Your drawings are very nice and realistic. I also like some of the prototypes too...
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Post by: clemon79 on July 09, 2004, 04:53:24 PM: [quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Jul 9 2004, 11:35 AM\'] The Pyramid set looks incredible, but I can't get over the Feud shots. They look like you took them straight off the TV. Really nice work!
[/quote]
Brandon, if you've never played with his Feud software, you really should. It is the Gold Standard for what a PC Feud game engine should look like. I'll fire mine up sometimes just to enjoy the animations and the cues.
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: Casey Buck on July 09, 2004, 04:59:19 PM: There's some more drawings at this Yahoo group:

http://photos.yahoo.com/yankeedog792000 (http://\"http://photos.yahoo.com/yankeedog792000\")
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: aaron sica on July 09, 2004, 05:02:31 PM: [quote name=\'Casey Buck\' date=\'Jul 9 2004, 04:59 PM\'] There's some more drawings at this Yahoo group:

http://photos.yahoo.com/yankeedog792000 (http://\"http://photos.yahoo.com/yankeedog792000\") [/quote]
Wow.

Some of those pictures are just amazing. The one with the WoF wheel blew me away.

P.S. Happy birthday Casey!
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: sshuffield70 on July 09, 2004, 05:06:52 PM: I have some drawings and animations from "TPIRkid79".

Game Show Art page (http://\"http://groups.msn.com/GSNCommunity/gsart.msnw\")
Game Show Animations (http://\"http://groups.msn.com/GSNCommunity/gameshowanimations.msnw\")

The animations are available for linking through the Ultraplex's regular website.
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: ITSBRY on July 09, 2004, 05:12:03 PM: [quote name=\'Casey Buck\' date=\'Jul 9 2004, 03:59 PM\'] There's some more drawings at this Yahoo group:

http://photos.yahoo.com/yankeedog792000 (http://\"http://photos.yahoo.com/yankeedog792000\") [/quote]
These put mine to shame...great stuff. Thanks for posting them.

What did you use to create them?

ITSBRY
itsbry@juno.com
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: ITSBRY on July 09, 2004, 05:16:09 PM: [quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'Jul 9 2004, 04:06 PM\'] I have some drawings and animations from "TPIRkid79".

Game Show Art page (http://\"http://groups.msn.com/GSNCommunity/gsart.msnw\")
Game Show Animations (http://\"http://groups.msn.com/GSNCommunity/gameshowanimations.msnw\")

The animations are available for linking through the Ultraplex's regular website. [/quote]
FANTASTIC STUFF!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for posting these...they are great!

ITSBRY
itsbry@juno.com
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: Casey Buck on July 09, 2004, 05:18:04 PM: [quote name=\'ITSBRY\' date=\'Jul 9 2004, 02:12 PM\'] [quote name=\'Casey Buck\' date=\'Jul 9 2004, 03:59 PM\'] There's some more drawings at this Yahoo group:

http://photos.yahoo.com/yankeedog792000 (http://\"http://photos.yahoo.com/yankeedog792000\") [/quote]
These put mine to shame...great stuff. Thanks for posting them.

What did you use to create them?

ITSBRY
itsbry@juno.com [/quote]
I didn't make those, TPIRKid79 did. Many of those pictures were the same from the link that sshuffield70 posted.

EDIT: On second thought, check out this link:

http://naz03productions.tripod.com/samples.htm (http://\"http://naz03productions.tripod.com/samples.htm\")

tnpir4000 from golden-road.net has created some EXCELLENT 3-D images of various stuff (some of which are GS-related).
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: mb425 on July 09, 2004, 09:41:02 PM: Wow. Those are awsome 3-D pictures! I always wondered how CJ did those cool Family Feud set graphics. I also like the Pyramid Concept design form itsbry.
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: Clay Zambo on July 09, 2004, 10:03:50 PM: Wow. All of you, wow.
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: Casey Buck on July 13, 2004, 01:18:22 PM: Todd now has the main-game board up on the site; as usual, it looks great!
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: BrandonFG on July 13, 2004, 02:32:13 PM: [quote name=\'Casey Buck\' date=\'Jul 9 2004, 04:18 PM\'] I didn't make those, TPIRKid79 did. Many of those pictures were the same from the link that sshuffield70 posted.

EDIT: On second thought, check out this link:

http://naz03productions.tripod.com/samples.htm (http://\"http://naz03productions.tripod.com/samples.htm\")

tnpir4000 from golden-road.net has created some EXCELLENT 3-D images of various stuff (some of which are GS-related). [/quote]
The Feud sets are a masterpiece. So are the TPiR sets.

Chris, I do remember playing the Feud game last year, and loved the graphics, and how close it was to the original. If I can ever get a Feud game going on campus, I know where to go. Hell, they do Family Feud in our student union all the time. I might have to pass the word. :-)

Itsbry, your site wasn't the one I was thinking of, but your creations are awesome as well. I loved the Pyramid and High Rollers concepts.
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: Casey Buck on July 16, 2004, 01:39:13 AM: Todd sure has been busy working on the graphics, because he now has a screenshot of the maingame desk on the screenshots site (http://\"http://www.katymae.com/screenshots.html\").
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: Particleman on July 16, 2004, 08:10:04 AM: [quote name=\'Casey Buck\' date=\'Jul 16 2004, 12:39 AM\'] Todd sure has been busy working on the graphics, because he now has a screenshot of the maingame desk on the screenshots site (http://\"http://www.katymae.com/screenshots.html\"). [/quote]
That desk shot only took about 4 hours to do. The better I've got with Photoshop, the quicker I can crank these pictures out. Let's hope that same luck holds with Flash when I start putting everything together!
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: clemon79 on July 16, 2004, 12:13:12 PM: [quote name=\'Particleman\' date=\'Jul 16 2004, 05:10 AM\'] That desk shot only took about 4 hours to do. The better I've got with Photoshop, the quicker I can crank these pictures out. Let's hope that same luck holds with Flash when I start putting everything together! [/quote]
Ya know, I'd tell you not to sacrafice quality for speed, but damn does this stuff look good.
The one thing I would like to see, though, is a way to integrate the scorepanels into the shot of the front-game pyramid, so players had all of the information on one screen. Like a toggle that would insert them in the corners with small diagonal wipes.
Even at that, I'm drooling here.
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: Particleman on July 16, 2004, 04:00:50 PM: [quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jul 16 2004, 11:13 AM\'] Ya know, I'd tell you not to sacrafice quality for speed, but damn does this stuff look good.
The one thing I would like to see, though, is a way to integrate the scorepanels into the shot of the front-game pyramid, so players had all of the information on one screen. Like a toggle that would insert them in the corners with small diagonal wipes.
Even at that, I'm drooling here. [/quote]
I hate to ask but I don't think I'm following you here. Do you mean you'd like to see the game board visible when the players are sitting at the desk giving the clues? If so, why? If not, could you break it down for me? If ignorance is bliss, I'm a bottle of joy.
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: Kevin Prather on July 16, 2004, 04:08:50 PM: I think what he means is that when the screen is on the game board, you have the scores of both teams superimposed in the corners.
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: bwood on July 16, 2004, 04:12:02 PM: Great work Todd! When this game is finished, I'll have to buy a box of Depends before I play it!
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: clemon79 on July 16, 2004, 06:59:08 PM: [quote name=\'Particleman\' date=\'Jul 16 2004, 01:00 PM\']I hate to ask but I don't think I'm following you here. Do you mean you'd like to see the game board visible when the players are sitting at the desk giving the clues? If so, why? If not, could you break it down for me? If ignorance is bliss, I'm a bottle of joy.[/quote]
Please don't hate to ask! This is exactly the kind of design input I would love to be a part of!

Who's got the right idea. (Hell will freeze over presently. ;)) Consider the top left and top right corners of the screen when you're looking at the shot of the category board. Kinda dead space, right? It would be useful, either full-time or on a toggle of some kind, to be able to display both score readouts in those corners. The below is a piss-poor representation of what I'm thinking of, just extrapolate it for both sides of the screen:
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Hmm. Still piss-poor, but I think it gets the point across. Except you would fill that triangular wedge with what would look like a camera shot just of that team's "score wedge" on top of their desk. Make sense?
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: Particleman on July 17, 2004, 11:17:53 AM: Ah, I see what you're getting at! The only problem I see with doing this is people might get confused with which side the scores are for. It would confuse me, at least. It might be better to give the game operator the ability to display a camera shot of both player tables by means of a key press. And as a rule of thumb, I like to keep the visuals close to what you'd see if you're watching the show on your TV set.

It's a good idea though. If there'd be a way to do something like what you're talking about that wouldn't be confusing, I'd like to add it as an option.
Title: $100K Pyramid presentation screenshot
Post by: clemon79 on July 17, 2004, 02:54:31 PM: [quote name=\'Particleman\' date=\'Jul 17 2004, 08:17 AM\'] Ah, I see what you're getting at! The only problem I see with doing this is people might get confused with which side the scores are for. [/quote]
I don't agree. At least, no more confusing than the table shot you allude to. Left score on the left, right on the right.
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And as a rule of thumb, I like to keep the visuals close to what you'd see if you're watching the show on your TV set.
I understand that, but I think in this case it would add a great deal of playability to the game. Remember, it _looks_ TV-real, and that's great, but it's _not_ a TV show, and if you can leverage that fact to make the gameplay better, you ought to, IMO. And that's why you toggle it...if someone doesn't want it, they wouldn't need to use it.
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It's a good idea though. If there'd be a way to do something like what you're talking about that wouldn't be confusing, I'd like to add it as an option.
Well, give it some thought, maybe you will come up with something you like better. I'm just tossing the concept out there :)