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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: DJDustman on July 04, 2004, 10:32:04 PM
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Hey everyone, hope you are having a great 4th of July. Anyhow, I have a question. During the shopping years, were you able to put Your Money on account before buying anything, or did you HAVE to buy items till you had little money left?
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[quote name=\'DJDustman\' date=\'Jul 4 2004, 07:32 PM\']During the shopping years, were you able to put Your Money on account before buying anything[/quote]
Yes.
or did you HAVE to buy items till you had little money left?
No.
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[quote name=\'gameshowsteve\' date=\'Jul 4 2004, 09:37 PM\'] [quote name=\'DJDustman\' date=\'Jul 4 2004, 07:32 PM\']During the shopping years, were you able to put Your Money on account before buying anything[/quote]
Yes.
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It was reported in ATGS that a contestant in the Woolery era managed to win every round, put his money on account before he picked any prizes, and bought the car in the last round.
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The official rule on the show was that you could put any amount of your winnings from a round "On Account" at any time while you were "shopping" -- in fact, I recall one episode in which a contestant put part of her winnings "On Account" before buying anything else during her "shopping spree."
Usually, though, a player would "shop" until he or she ran his/her bankroll down to less than the price of the lowest-priced prize that was available, at which point that player would be given the option of putting whatever amount was left "On Account" or taking a merchandise gift certificate of that amount from a participating sponsor of the show (more on that later) Indeed, they could even split that amount, with some of it going "On Account" and the rest on a gift certificate.
Longtime fans of the show, though, remember that using the "On Account" option carried risks: If the player won another round on the program, the "On Account" money would be added back onto the player's winnings from that round and become available for more "prize shopping" after that subsequent win, but if a player did not win another round on the program, that money would be lost (cash was never awarded as a prize on the show except during the "Bonus Round" and during the time when they had the "Cash Jackpot" as an extra wheel prize in Round 3 on the daytime version). Also, any "On Account" money a player had from a previous round would be lost if that player hit "Bankrupt" on the wheel during later play.
Michael Brandenburg
(But you know something? When Chuck Woolery did the show in the early days, he'd drive me nuts trying to figure out what a "tift cergificate" was? Only when he took to talking a little slower that I fount out that it was supposed to be a "Tiffany gift certificate" from that very fancy jewelry store of the same name!)
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[quote name=\'Michael Brandenburg\' date=\'Jul 5 2004, 11:11 AM\'] (But you know something? When Chuck Woolery did the show in the early days, he'd drive me nuts trying to figure out what a "tift cergificate" was? Only when he took to talking a little slower that I fount out that it was supposed to be a "Tiffany gift certificate" from that very fancy jewelry store of the same name!) [/quote]
How much could you get at Tiffany's with a $13 gift certificate? Would that even get you through the door? If so, would it be enough for breakfast? I'd ask George Peppard if he were still alive.
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[quote name=\'Michael Brandenburg\' date=\'Jul 5 2004, 09:11 AM\'] Only when he took to talking a little slower that I fount out that it was supposed to be a "Tiffany gift certificate" from that very fancy jewelry store of the same name!) [/quote]
As opposed to the not-as-well-known fried-okra chain based out of Baltimore.
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[quote name=\'Michael Brandenburg\' date=\'Jul 5 2004, 11:11 AM\'] The official rule on the show was that you could put any amount of your winnings from a round "On Account" at any time while you were "shopping" -- in fact, I recall one episode in which a contestant put part of her winnings "On Account" before buying anything else during her "shopping spree."
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Are you sure? I thought if a player started shopping, they had to keep buying stuff until they could no longer afford anything. That's how they were able to move the ceramic dalmations--if a player had, say, $300 left and the dog was $150, they couldn't put it on account until after they'd bought the dog.
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Jul 5 2004, 02:59 PM\'] [quote name=\'Michael Brandenburg\' date=\'Jul 5 2004, 11:11 AM\'] The official rule on the show was that you could put any amount of your winnings from a round "On Account" at any time while you were "shopping" -- in fact, I recall one episode in which a contestant put part of her winnings "On Account" before buying anything else during her "shopping spree."
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Are you sure? I thought if a player started shopping, they had to keep buying stuff until they could no longer afford anything. That's how they were able to move the ceramic dalmations--if a player had, say, $300 left and the dog was $150, they couldn't put it on account until after they'd bought the dog. [/quote]
No, you mean they couldn't put it on a gift certificate until after the dog, since "on account" could be used at any time.
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[quote name=\'Michael Brandenburg\' date=\'Jul 5 2004, 12:11 PM\'] ... If the player won another round on the program, the "On Account" money would be added back onto the player's winnings from that round and become available for more "prize shopping" after that subsequent win ... [/quote]
It could be my fuzzy memory (I was only 14 when the shopping era ended), but was their ever a time when a player who puts money "on account" had to specifically win the very next round in order to reclaim it? Or has it always been you could win any subsequent round (so long as you don't hit Bankrupt in the meantime, of course) to get your "On Account" money back?
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[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' date=\'Jul 5 2004, 05:22 PM\'] was their ever a time when a player who puts money "on account" had to specifically win the very next round in order to reclaim it? [/quote]
IIRC a player could win any subsequent round on that day's show(outside of hitting a Bankrupt) to claim the On Account money.
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The official rule on the show was that you could put any amount of your winnings from a round "On Account" at any time while you were "shopping" -- in fact, I recall one episode in which a contestant put part of her winnings "On Account" before buying anything else during her "shopping spree."
In fact, during the early yrs, Chuck would always precede each shopping spree w/the question "Do you want to put your $$$ on account or go shopping?" (Except during the final round, where both he and the rule said "It's the final round, so you have to go shopping").
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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Actually, when the show first began in 1975, the unspent money after shopping had to be put on account. It wasn't until a few months into the run that the gift certificate option was available.
I remember watching some early shows during the spring break from school that year, and contestants always had odd amounts that they won. I think it was sometime during that summer that contestants were given the option. Once that option was introduced, putting money "on account" was rare.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Jul 6 2004, 08:56 AM\'] I remember watching some early shows during the spring break from school that year, and contestants always had odd amounts that they won. I think it was sometime during that summer that contestants were given the option. Once that option was introduced, putting money "on account" was rare. [/quote]
Indeed....I never really was interested in WoF until the syndicated version started, and I remember having to wait awhile before I would find out what "On Account" meant, as it seemed 95% of the players, when asked "Would you like the rest on a gift certificate or on account?" chose the GC....
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Jul 6 2004, 08:02 AM\'] I remember having to wait awhile before I would find out what "On Account" meant, as it seemed 95% of the players, when asked "Would you like the rest on a gift certificate or on account?" chose the GC.... [/quote]
The Gift Certificate won was always at least $25, even if the player had less than $25 left when shopping.
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Correct me if I'm wrong. But, according to Matt Kaiser (Who saw the 1976 ep of WOF that exists in historical archives), players had the option of converting any and all of their round winnings into cash. Is that true ?
Did anyone ever go "On Account" during the glorious Benirschke era ? I'd like to hear his reactions !
-Joe R.
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[quote name=\'JRaygor\' date=\'Jul 6 2004, 02:46 PM\'] Did anyone ever go "On Account" during the glorious Benirschke era ? I'd like to hear his reactions !
-Joe R.
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I think I have a general idea.
"Well, folks, I'm not sure what 'on account' means, so while I find out, we'll go to a commercial and then come back to our Wheel of Fortune."
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[quote name=\'JRaygor\' date=\'Jul 6 2004, 01:46 PM\']
Did anyone ever go "On Account" during the glorious Benirschke era ? I'd like to hear his reactions !
-Joe R. [/quote]
Gee...I didn't think anyone would admit to knowing that they saw some of the Benirschke eps....I just figured everyone just convieniently ommited those from memory, much like I did. :-)
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[quote name=\'Jumpondees\' date=\'Jul 6 2004, 05:38 PM\'] Gee...I didn't think anyone would admit to knowing that they saw some of the Benirschke eps....I just figured everyone just convieniently ommited those from memory, much like I did. :-) [/quote]
You don't know Joe very well :)
He is a big Benirschke fan...Not to mention at GSC12, when we played Card Sharks, the "freeze" point was marked with cardboard pieces containing his picture, in which we dubbed them "Benirschke Bars"...
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Jul 6 2004, 04:47 PM\']
You don't know Joe very well :)
He is a big Benirschke fan...Not to mention at GSC12, when we played Card Sharks, the "freeze" point was marked with cardboard pieces containing his picture, in which we dubbed them "Benirschke Bars"... [/quote]
LMAO....No I don't....But I think I would pay good money to see a picture of those things.
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[quote name=\'Jumpondees\' date=\'Jul 6 2004, 05:55 PM\'] LMAO....No I don't....But I think I would pay good money to see a picture of those things. [/quote]
I think that could be arranged by either myself or someone here..
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Didn't they eliminate the "On Account" option by the time Rolf took over?
As for the Benirschke Bars, they were basically taken from pics. on Joe's site devoted to Rolf, so you could make your own, if you like!
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[quote name=\'whewfan\' date=\'Jul 6 2004, 05:02 PM\'] Didn't they eliminate the "On Account" option by the time Rolf took over?
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The On Account option ended when shopping ended on WOF, which was when the show moved over to CBS and Goen took over as daytime host.
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[quote name=\'Jumpondees\' date=\'Jul 6 2004, 04:55 PM\'] [quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Jul 6 2004, 04:47 PM\']
You don't know Joe very well :)
He is a big Benirschke fan...Not to mention at GSC12, when we played Card Sharks, the "freeze" point was marked with cardboard pieces containing his picture, in which we dubbed them "Benirschke Bars"... [/quote]
LMAO....No I don't....But I think I would pay good money to see a picture of those things. [/quote]
You would !? I could make you some Benirschke Bars for only $10 each !
I'll even throw-in the Brookyln Bridge for $25 also : )
-Joe R.
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Jul 5 2004, 02:59 PM\'] [quote name=\'Michael Brandenburg\' date=\'Jul 5 2004, 11:11 AM\'] The official rule on the show was that you could put any amount of your winnings from a round "On Account" at any time while you were "shopping" -- in fact, I recall one episode in which a contestant put part of her winnings "On Account" before buying anything else during her "shopping spree."
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Are you sure? I thought if a player started shopping, they had to keep buying stuff until they could no longer afford anything. That's how they were able to move the ceramic dalmations--if a player had, say, $300 left and the dog was $150, they couldn't put it on account until after they'd bought the dog. [/quote]
I can hear Chuck's voice in my head (along with the others!) saying "on account or a gift certificate"? My mother and I used to joke that the contestant had to buy a bunch of junk whether they wanted it or not, just to get to the point where they couldn't buy anything else.
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Jul 5 2004, 12:59 PM\'] Are you sure? I thought if a player started shopping, they had to keep buying stuff until they could no longer afford anything. That's how they were able to move the ceramic dalmations--if a player had, say, $300 left and the dog was $150, they couldn't put it on account until after they'd bought the dog. [/quote]
It shouldn't surprise you to know that Brandenburg is dead wrong...the option was either to put the whole schmiel On Account, or shop until you could shop no mo', and then put the remainder On Account or on a gift certificate. Many was the day that a player thought they were done shopping, only for Pat to point out that they still had $120 left for that goddamn dog. ;)
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Did the contestant ever have a say in what room they went in? I know the "prices of the prizes were furnished to the contestants prior to the show, and were rounded off to the nearest dollar", so maybe they told them what room they would go to after each round before the show.
Was the dalmation in every room?
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[quote name=\'bellbm\' date=\'Jul 7 2004, 12:42 PM\']Did the contestant ever have a say in what room they went in? I know the "prices of the prizes were furnished to the contestants prior to the show, and were rounded off to the nearest dollar", so maybe they told them what room they would go to after each round before the show.
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Originally, no--sometimg during the first six months, they were allowed to pick whatever platforms they wanted to shop at first (I assume they had everyone rate the platforms 1-2-3). This was when the curtain replaced the doors behind Woolery. By the time we got to Sajak and the turntable, they may've lost the choice completely, or the first round winner's first choice was first and they then went in the order the turntable spun (although if there was a fourth round, they went back to the platform that was the least bought during the game).
And I would still swear that you could put your money On Account at any time during shopping, even if you still had to buy stuff--people went On Account so infrequently (and there was a period of time where I didn't watch "Wheel" frequently) that it's hard to remember.
Was the dalmation in every room?
No--it just seemed like he was. :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jul 7 2004, 01:02 PM\'] ...the option was either to put the whole schmiel On Account, or shop until you could shop no mo', and then put the remainder On Account or on a gift certificate. Many was the day that a player thought they were done shopping, only for Pat to point out that they still had $120 left for that goddamn dog. ;) [/quote]
My memory was that Chuck or Pat would remind them there was still more to buy if they wanted to put the remainder on a gift certificate. Gift certificates could only be for whatever leftover scraps of money you had left. But I'll agree with mark, my impression was that you could -- in theory anyway -- put any amount you wanted "on account" even if you had already made some purchases. But as Mark says, it happened so infrequently that we may be hard pressed to prove it.
The official rules I have may be from the shopping era, I can't remember. If they are, I'll check them later and tell you what I find out.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jul 7 2004, 11:43 AM\'] My memory was that Chuck or Pat would remind them there was still more to buy if they wanted to put the remainder on a gift certificate. Gift certificates could only be for whatever leftover scraps of money you had left. But I'll agree with mark, my impression was that you could -- in theory anyway -- put any amount you wanted "on account" even if you had already made some purchases. But as Mark says, it happened so infrequently that we may be hard pressed to prove it. [/quote]
I see. That might be, and I'll happily chow down on some crow if in fact that was the case.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jul 7 2004, 12:08 PM\'][quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jul 7 2004, 11:43 AM\'] My memory was that Chuck or Pat would remind them there was still more to buy if they wanted to put the remainder on a gift certificate. Gift certificates could only be for whatever leftover scraps of money you had left. But I'll agree with mark, my impression was that you could -- in theory anyway -- put any amount you wanted "on account" even if you had already made some purchases. But as Mark says, it happened so infrequently that we may be hard pressed to prove it. [/quote]
I see. That might be, and I'll happily chow down on some crow if in fact that was the case.[/quote]
Waiter! One round of boiled crow for Chris L., please!
I distinctly remember seeing an episode on GSN where a guy was down to his last $300 or so. Pat started to tell him to take the Dalmation (or an equally undesirable small prize), but the contestant cut him off and said he wanted to put the rest on account, which was done.
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[quote name=\'gameshowsteve\' date=\'Jul 7 2004, 02:36 PM\'] Waiter! One round of boiled crow for Chris L., please! [/quote]
No, I at least get to choose how I would like my crow prepared.
I think I would like it Shabu-Shabu style.
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Sorry, Chris. Didn't mean to get you into this.
But haven't we all learned something?
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[quote name=\'bellbm\' date=\'Jul 7 2004, 12:42 PM\'] Was the dalmation in every room? [/quote]
No, but some form of a crappy prize was; such as the brass magazine bin, or that infamous candy dish.
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[quote name=\'JRaygor\' date=\'Jul 6 2004, 07:18 PM\']
You would !? I could make you some Benirschke Bars for only $10 each !
I'll even throw-in the Brookyln Bridge for $25 also : )
-Joe R. [/quote]
I said I would pay good money to see them...not to own them ;-)
Now...about that Brooklyn Bridge...if you throw in one of those lovely ceramic dalmations...I'll consider the offer!