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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: Jimmy Owen on February 03, 2023, 10:26:34 AM
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Just saw a woman give up a nice kitchen on LMAD
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All earnings over $600 are taxed. I could never do Let's Make a Deal, even though I'm ineligible, because I would quite literally rather have the zonk than the tax burden kitchen set or the pain in the ass of selling (which will almost never go for face value) THEN paying taxes. Also for kitchens specifically, approximately 15% of people nationwide (SIGNIFICANTLY more in large cities) are renters, and if you are, a kitchen is utterly useless. If I'm on the show, I don't need that. Let me trade off for possibly something better.
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There are some prizes these shows give away that have no interest for me. For example - a hot tub. If I won one on The Price is Right, when I'm filling out the forms I'd forfeit it.
Having said that, it does surprise me sometimes when I see people win nice things and give it up to go for the Big Deal, but I think Chelsea explains it quite well.
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Chelsea makes an interesting point. When I watch the ‘84 version, people are still very excited to win appliances or kitchen sets, which makes me wonder what the ratio of homeowners to renters was back then. Considering housing was much more affordable, I imagine it was close(r) to even.
Our townhouse currently has newer stainless steel appliances, but it’s been a few occasions where I watched LMAD or TPIR and was more excited about the kitchen than the new car. I just figured it meant I was getting older. :P
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It's all situational. I'd pass up a hot tub because it's a pain in the tuchas for a person with a prosthetic leg to use. The kitchen would be a nice upgrade as it's been 14 years since I got mine.
I wonder what percent of boat winners decline it because they aren't near water, but also the general cost of boat ownership.
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Just saw a woman give up a nice kitchen on LMAD
I don't know how blaze they've become, but they sure are blasé
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I agree, many people seem to be small-campfire at best about winning stuff.
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As best as I can tell, American Gladiators' Blaze has not been a contestant and had the opportunity to win stuff.
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It’s hard to get fired up about everything.
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As best as I can tell, American Gladiators' Blaze has not been a contestant and had the opportunity to win stuff.
Gemini, on the other hand...
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All the harsh burns.
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I'd be lukewarm over a kitchen as well.
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Just saw a woman give up a nice kitchen on LMAD
I don't know how blaze they've become, but they sure are blasé
Yes. That was the word i was thinking of. Unsure of the spelling
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I wonder what percent of boat winners decline it because they aren't near water, but also the general cost of boat ownership.
A boat's a boat, but the mystery box can be anything! It could even be a boat! We'll take the box!
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Eh...at least they aren't quite at the level of that guy who played Race Game sometime in the '90s and openly complained that he didn't need any of the prizes, promptly earning the contempt of Bob and boos from the audience.
https://youtube.com/shorts/D4MKM6P_tXk?feature=share
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I gotta ask, since I don’t think this has ever been answered (at least I haven’t seen it, and pardon me otherwise):
Let’s say, for instance, you win a whole crapton of stuff on TPIR. And a lot of it, like you say, is a massive tax burden, but in spite of that there’s at least one or two things you really wouldn’t mind keeping.
When you come to the point where you have to decide what you want to do with your prizes, can you pick and choose what you wanna keep, or is it all or nothing?
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I can’t speak specifically for Price but on LMAD I was able to forfeit one of my prizes and keep the other two.
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I wonder what percent of boat winners decline it because they aren't near water, but also the general cost of boat ownership.
A boat's a boat, but the mystery box can be anything! It could even be a boat! We'll take the box!
+1.
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When you come to the point where you have to decide what you want to do with your prizes, can you pick and choose what you wanna keep, or is it all or nothing?
You can pick and choose.
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certificates of forfeiture's what they call them, right? the reciept they have you sign saying you don't wanna?
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I can't remember if I've asked this before, but are prizes transferrable? Am I allowed to pull a "Richard Osman's House Of Games" move and say "Please give my refrigerator to Mabel who didn't get out of Contestant's Row"?
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I would quite literally rather have the zonk than the tax burden kitchen set or the pain in the ass of selling (which will almost never go for face value) THEN paying taxes.
I've seen this thought process from many others (most of whom have never actually been presented with the situation), and I never understand the theory. While I fully understand that not every prize is suitable for every person, it's still an asset. With the lone exception of a trip - which is specifically assigned to the winner in most cases - sure, there could be a burden of selling/offloading the unwanted prize; but at the end of the day, even selling something at well-below retail and paying the taxes would still net you a profit.
This would be like saying you will turn down the $700M Powerball if you win tonight, because you'll have to pay $196M to the government.
Side note: I still cannot play my electric guitar.
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I can't remember if I've asked this before, but are prizes transferrable? Am I allowed to pull a "Richard Osman's House Of Games" move and say "Please give my refrigerator to Mabel who didn't get out of Contestant's Row"?
"Mabel, I'd like to give you one of my prizes. Because you one-dollared me on the 3rd One Bid, I'm giving you a custom $20,000 wine cellar.
What do you mean you don't drink and you live in a one-bedroom apartment? Enjoy your tax burden, you old coot."
;D
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When you come to the point where you have to decide what you want to do with your prizes, can you pick and choose what you wanna keep, or is it all or nothing?
As Adam said, you can choose which to accept, but (at least in my experience of the show) all prizes to be delivered have to be sent to the same address—e.g., you can’t have the sweet flat-screen TV sent to your city apartment and the hot tub to your parents’ country house.
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I would quite literally rather have the zonk than the tax burden kitchen set or the pain in the ass of selling (which will almost never go for face value) THEN paying taxes.
I've seen this thought process from many others (most of whom have never actually been presented with the situation), and I never understand the theory. While I fully understand that not every prize is suitable for every person, it's still an asset. With the lone exception of a trip - which is specifically assigned to the winner in most cases - sure, there could be a burden of selling/offloading the unwanted prize; but at the end of the day, even selling something at well-below retail and paying the taxes would still net you a profit.
This would be like saying you will turn down the $700M Powerball if you win tonight, because you'll have to pay $196M to the government.
Side note: I still cannot play my electric guitar.
A guitar? Absolutely. (although I prefer bass)
Regarding the prizes that prompted this, though: Logistics is the main wall. Exactly where am I supposed to put multiple large heavy kitchen appliances in my 700 square foot 2nd floor apartment while waiting for some facebook/craigslist rando to pay me for the brand new appliances that I mysteriously have in my house but will not hook up? And CA has the 2nd lowest home ownership rate in the country - 45% are renters. There is a large segment of the audience and contestant base for whom taking delivery of prizes, trying to store/resale, or trying to use? Total nonstarter just from a logistics perspective
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Just saw a woman give up a nice kitchen on LMAD
I don't know how blaze they've become, but they sure are blasé
Yes. That was the word i was thinking of. Unsure of the spelling
Sorry about that...I'm a former radio and TV news producer and copy editor and some habits are hard to break
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When you come to the point where you have to decide what you want to do with your prizes, can you pick and choose what you wanna keep, or is it all or nothing?
As others have said, you're allowed to pick and choose. Although in the case of prizes that contain multiple smaller items, the collection as a whole is considered one "prize." For example, if the One Bid is a PS5 with a collection of games, you can't request to forfeit only the PS5 console because you already have one. If the prize is a bedroom suite, you can't request to accept only the bed while forfeiting the mirrored dresser and chest of drawers. However, the mattress is usually considered a separate prize (it's from a different company and received its own promotional plug).
I can't remember if I've asked this before, but are prizes transferrable? Am I allowed to pull a "Richard Osman's House Of Games" move and say "Please give my refrigerator to Mabel who didn't get out of Contestant's Row"?
Prizes are not transferrable via the production company. What you and Mabel arrange after you leave the studio is your own business*, but unless you forfeit it, the show is going to have that refrigerator delivered to your house along with the associated tax burden.
As Adam said, you can choose which to accept, but (at least in my experience of the show) all prizes to be delivered have to be sent to the same address—e.g., you can’t have the sweet flat-screen TV sent to your city apartment and the hot tub to your parents’ country house.
That's definitely true as of ten years ago. It may still be true, although I've heard that the department now in charge of prizes does a few things differently from the time I was there, so I can't speak for today. Multiple addresses would mean additional opportunities for mistakes to be made, so it wouldn't surprise me if one delivery address is still the rule.
*Obviously, collusion and negotiation before or during the episode is a huge no-no. I'm assuming that the premise of this question is that you defeated Mabel fair and square, went on to win more prizes than you expected to receive, and now feel sorry for one-upping poor, sweet Mabel.
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*Obviously, collusion and negotiation before or during the episode is a huge no-no. I'm assuming that the premise of this question is that you defeated Mabel fair and square, went on to win more prizes than you expected to receive, and now feel sorry for one-upping poor, sweet Mabel.
That's what I was going for, yes. Mabel's got a shirt on that says "I Just Want a Refrigerator and a Ki$$ from Drew!", and I just won all four prizes in Race Game, or something like that.
Another similar situation would be I win a trip to Mexico, and Cletus wins a prize to London, and as it turns out we'd both really like each other's trips. Guess that's out of the question too.
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Another similar situation would be I win a trip to Mexico, and Cletus wins a prize to London, and as it turns out we'd both really like each other's trips. Guess that's out of the question too.
Maybe each of you could take the other as guest.
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Another similar situation would be I win a trip to Mexico, and Cletus wins a prize to London, and as it turns out we'd both really like each other's trips. Guess that's out of the question too.
Maybe each of you could take the other as guest.
Certainly an option, as long as Mrs. Cletus doesn't have something to say about it. 😂
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What she doesn’t know won’t hurt her.
More seriously—just about everything else is a physical commodity. Unless you contrive to convert your tickets into money in the airline’s gift wallet and then buy a flight you want, I don’t know if you can swing that without a ton of work.
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What she doesn’t know won’t hurt her.
More seriously—just about everything else is a physical commodity. Unless you contrive to convert your tickets into money in the airline’s gift wallet and then buy a flight you want, I don’t know if you can swing that without a ton of work.
Yeah, if it's not as simple as saying "Mr. Producer, we'd like to swap our trips please," then it's not happening.
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I wonder what percent of boat winners decline it because they aren't near water, but also the general cost of boat ownership.
This may be a false memory, but wasn't it on the first Brady LMAD that the contestant playing for the Big Deal said they were glad they didn't win it because it was something like three Sea-Doos and they said they didn't live near the water?
When you come to the point where you have to decide what you want to do with your prizes, can you pick and choose what you wanna keep, or is it all or nothing?
As Adam said, you can choose which to accept, but (at least in my experience of the show) all prizes to be delivered have to be sent to the same address—e.g., you can’t have the sweet flat-screen TV sent to your city apartment and the hot tub to your parents’ country house.
That brings up a question - exactly what is the rule on trips? Does the winner have to be one of the persons who takes it? Why can't they just sell the plane tickets and transfer the hotel reservations? How is this enforced?
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That brings up a question - exactly what is the rule on trips? Does the winner have to be one of the persons who takes it? Why can't they just sell the plane tickets and transfer the hotel reservations? How is this enforced?
Yes, the winner has to be one of the travelers. Trips are booked through the production company (or a travel agency that the production company works with), which is how they ensure that one of the tickets is assigned to the winner.