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Title: ABC announces J! Masters
Post by: colonial on January 11, 2023, 12:16:48 PM
ABC is expanding the J! universe with "Jeopardy Masters," which will launch at a time TBD ...

https://deadline.com/2023/01/jeopardy-masters-elite-quiz-iteration-ordered-at-abc-1235217706/

The first series will feature Matt Amodio, Sam Buttrey, Andrew He, James Holzhauer, Mattea Roach and Amy Schneider in a "Champions League-style event."


ABC also announced renewals for Celebrity Feud and PYL for this summer. No word on Strahan Pyramid.



JD
Title: Re: ABC announces J! Masters
Post by: ChrisLambert! on January 11, 2023, 12:20:20 PM
Pyramid should still have seven unaired episodes in the can, based on their numbering sequence.
Title: Re: ABC announces J! Masters
Post by: weaklink75 on January 11, 2023, 12:47:53 PM
ABC is expanding the J! universe with "Jeopardy Masters," which will launch at a time TBD ...

https://deadline.com/2023/01/jeopardy-masters-elite-quiz-iteration-ordered-at-abc-1235217706/

The first series will feature Matt Amodio, Sam Buttrey, Andrew He, James Holzhauer, Mattea Roach and Amy Schneider in a "Champions League-style event."


Looks like it's probably 10 or 11 eps: There are 20 different combinations of 3 they can make from the 6. If they do two separate games per episode so all six appear, that's 10 eps. If they want a 2-game final with the top 3 players, that'd be 11 eps.

I am interested in seeing how they decide the league format-

-just straight money won in games?
-money won in games but the winner of each game gets a bonus to their total?
-a 3-2-1 point format?

(I personally think some sort of 3-2-1 format would be fairest; that way it mitigates how individual games go when it comes to money won)
Title: Re: ABC announces J! Masters
Post by: colonial on January 11, 2023, 02:37:12 PM
And in more J! news, both J! and WOF have been renewed through 2028 by the ABC O&Os ...

https://deadline.com/2023/01/wheel-of-fortune-jeopardy-renewed-at-abc-1235216648/

Title: Re: ABC announces J! Masters
Post by: BrandonFG on January 11, 2023, 03:43:56 PM
Hot take: do we really need another Superchamps tournament, and if so why not do another Battle of the Decades as we approach season 40? I'm guessing they're gonna keep bringing back Matt, Amy, et al if the ratings allow for it, but I think it's getting into overkill territory.
Title: Re: ABC announces J! Masters
Post by: TLEberle on January 11, 2023, 03:51:11 PM
No, we don’t need it but I think it would work as a summer drop in rather than during the regular series.  But it’s not mine to do.
Title: Re: ABC announces J! Masters
Post by: chrisholland03 on January 11, 2023, 04:05:29 PM
Milk the cash cow while it's in the barn LOL
Title: Re: ABC announces J! Masters
Post by: Hastin on January 11, 2023, 04:55:49 PM
It's interesting that even though Mayim was announced as the host of all the primetime tournaments, the press release says that Ken will be hosting this one. I'm guessing they want his previous championship experience to help with the ratings.
Title: Re: ABC announces J! Masters
Post by: whewfan on January 11, 2023, 05:23:03 PM
Considering that James and Ken know each other from The Chase, why would James be eligible to compete?
Title: Re: ABC announces J! Masters
Post by: TLEberle on January 11, 2023, 06:43:52 PM
Considering that James and Ken know each other from The Chase, why would James be eligible to compete?
Ask him—he’s on Twitter.

Maybe it’s just for bragging rights and no prize money? I didn’t look too closely.
Title: Re: ABC announces J! Masters
Post by: snowpeck on January 11, 2023, 08:52:11 PM
Considering that James and Ken know each other from The Chase, why would James be eligible to compete?
Ask him—he’s on Twitter.

Maybe it’s just for bragging rights and no prize money? I didn’t look too closely.
Nothing that's been published thus far makes any mention of prize money, so that seems like a good guess.
Title: Re: ABC announces J! Masters
Post by: parliboy on January 12, 2023, 12:40:32 AM
One would presume, given the nature of the program, that there are appearance fees at the least, maybe with each player attached to a charity.

In other words, Jeopardy has successfully flexed to ABC that they can do Celebrity Jeopardy without celebrities.  I'm at least curious how it will turn out.
Title: Re: ABC announces J! Masters
Post by: Jeremy Nelson on January 13, 2023, 01:05:36 PM
Considering that James and Ken know each other from The Chase, why would James be eligible to compete?
Ask him—he’s on Twitter.

Maybe it’s just for bragging rights and no prize money? I didn’t look too closely.
I don’t think it makes any difference if they know each other or not- I’m sure there’s been a long enough embargo period that they haven’t worked together where this tournament would be for cash.
Title: Re: ABC announces J! Masters
Post by: Joe Mello on January 13, 2023, 01:49:46 PM
I don’t think it makes any difference if they know each other or not- I’m sure there’s been a long enough embargo period that they haven’t worked together where this tournament would be for cash.
I imagine at this level of play everybody knows everybody to some degree, and it's expected that everyone be a professional about things.

My only one real eyebrow raise is bringing back Amy, Andrew and Sam. I don't disagree with the logic, but we just had them for 6 games in a row and the first 3.5-4 weren't terribly interesting.
Title: Re: ABC announces J! Masters
Post by: Jeremy Nelson on January 14, 2023, 11:31:26 AM
It's interesting that even though Mayim was announced as the host of all the primetime tournaments, the press release says that Ken will be hosting this one.
The division of responsibilities seems to be getting clearer- Ken gets the top level difficulty tournaments, while Mayim gets the rest.

We’ve talked about over saturation already, so I won’t go there. But this tournament feels like wish fulfillment. Amy, Mattea and Matt never played a meaningful game against one another, and this is how they make that happen. But it seems pretty unfair to invite five players from the most recent ToC and not extend an invite to Sam Kavanaugh, who won the year prior.
Title: Re: ABC announces J! Masters
Post by: Jeremy Nelson on February 08, 2023, 09:40:16 PM
Format was announced earlier this week on the Jeopardy Podcast:

10 hour long episodes, two games per hour. Everyone shows up in either the first or second game. The pod hosts say that  we'll be seeing every possible player combination, which seems dubious, but one of the math experts can verify.

First and second place in each episode get points in the standings ala soccer or hockey (no specifics were given on what those amounts would be).

Top three in the standings at the end of the series get spots in the next Masters series, while the bottom three are relegated to the brand new Jeopardy Invitational. The newly-crowned ToC champion takes the fourth spot in the next Masters, while the other two Masters spots go to the top finishers in the Invitational.

Davies' sportification of Jeopardy is becoming a reality.
Title: Re: ABC announces J! Masters
Post by: TLEberle on February 08, 2023, 10:19:10 PM
There are twenty ways to choose three options from a pool of six.

I certainly don’t mind more events and more Jeopardy generally but if we aren’t going to see some of the old guard get a chance to elbow their way in on this they should get a separate parallel league. Perhaps a Classic Division.
Title: Re: ABC announces J! Masters
Post by: Jeremy Nelson on February 09, 2023, 10:50:15 AM
I certainly don’t mind more events and more Jeopardy generally but I’d we aren’t going to see some of the old guard get a chance to elbow their way in on this they should get a separate parallel league. Perhaps a Classic Division.

Seniors Tournament? I kid.

That said, I am a little bummed at how Jeopardy has mostly eschewed the pre-2000 champions, and would love to see a couple show up in the Invitational every year. We've pretty much seen the same 15 or 20 people come back for most tournaments in the last decade, so these events have started to get a little stale.
Title: Re: ABC announces J! Masters
Post by: clemon79 on February 09, 2023, 04:27:34 PM
in a "Champions League-style event."

In the 39th minute the studio audience needs to break out in an honorary singing of "Think!" Regardless of what is happening at that moment.