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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: Bob Zager on January 25, 2022, 01:28:36 PM
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Here's where to apply:
https://passwordcasting.castingcrane.com/age-gate
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I must say that is a super "new" logo...
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I must say that is a super "new" logo...
I wouldn't hold your breath that it'll reflect anything about the finished product. This wouldn't be the first (and certainly not the last) casting notice to use existing logos, etc. to advertise an upcoming show.
-Jason
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Allen and Betty are smiling from above.
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I've said this before, but putting this in primetime for "BIG MONEY" feels like the wrong play here.
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I've said this before, but putting this in primetime for "BIG MONEY" feels like the wrong play here.
Depends on how NBC defines "big money." If you account for inflation, Password Plus' $5,000 per Alphabetics win in 1979 is equivalent to roughly $20,000 now, so $50K or $100K for a network prime time game without returning champions doesn't seem unreasonable by comparison, but it's still enough that you could call it big money.
That said, I would assume that there's a decent chance that NBC goes closer to The Wall's huge prize budget rather than the ABC revivals' comparatively modest ones.
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I've said this before, but putting this in primetime for "BIG MONEY" feels like the wrong play here.
Depends on how NBC defines "big money." If you account for inflation, Password Plus' $5,000 per Alphabetics win in 1979 is equivalent to roughly $20,000 now, so $50K or $100K for a network prime time game without returning champions doesn't seem unreasonable by comparison, but it's still enough that you could call it big money.
That said, I would assume that there's a decent chance that NBC goes closer to The Wall's huge prize budget rather than the ABC revivals' comparatively modest ones.
That and Super Password gave out 50K+ on several occasions, and that was more than 30 years ago. I’m fine with a 25/50K top prize. I think we’re mostly past the era of overblown million dollar game shows.
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Agreed that taking the lighter approach that ABC has done for most of their games would probably work better than an overblown million dollar version, even though that worked decently a decade ago.
Do 2 or 3 password Plus Puzzles.
Then to determine the winner, do the WLOD format and have the team in the lead guess passwords for a minute, followed by the other team. Winner goes on to Alphabetics for $50K.
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I've said this before, but putting this in primetime for "BIG MONEY" feels like the wrong play here.
Depends on how NBC defines "big money." If you account for inflation, Password Plus' $5,000 per Alphabetics win in 1979 is equivalent to roughly $20,000 now, so $50K or $100K for a network prime time game without returning champions doesn't seem unreasonable by comparison, but it's still enough that you could call it big money.
That said, I would assume that there's a decent chance that NBC goes closer to The Wall's huge prize budget rather than the ABC revivals' comparatively modest ones.
That and Super Password gave out 50K+ on several occasions, and that was more than 30 years ago. I’m fine with a 25/50K top prize. I think we’re mostly past the era of overblown million dollar game shows.
I'd think an Alphabetics bonus at $5K/word with it doubling to $100K for all ten would be fine- since you don't know what kind of a player your celeb partner would be, you'd get a relatively decent amount no matter what.
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I don't feel like there's any sense hypothesizing on how the game will work, money amounts for Alphabetics, etc.
My prediction of what you're going to see here is plain, simple "Password" like it was in the 60s. No three-tier bonus round a la ABC Password, no Password Puzzles....Just "Password".
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If we’re going straight retro, which works on the show, why not simply play a lightning round that doesn’t use alphabetics? You can play a longer clock and tweak the payoff and up the ante since the words wouldn’t be telegraphed with the first letter. 10 in 60 works.
Personally, I’d love to see a supersized version of the superimposed single handed clock with the glockenspiel countdown.
The bookings for this will be the draw. Think of who played in 62 in prime time. Movie legends. Rising starlets. Stage stars. Anyone who is in the NBCU universe is fair game. No reason we couldn’t see Dwayne Johnson against Ariana Grande. And don’t anyone say you won’t watch. And think of who else would that never heard of the Toaster Incident
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Since The Rock has already hosted a pseudo game show on NBC (The Titan Games) this is not too far-fetched.
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Since The Rock has already hosted a pseudo game show on NBC (The Titan Games) this is not too far-fetched.
He also has a sitcom on the network, so....yeah.
And given what the game was like on Fallon before, I do expect traditional PW rather than Plus, Super, or Million Dollar (TBH, thank God for the latter).
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IMHO, I'm not so sure the simple classic, original Password format can hang these days, especially in Primetime.
Sure, it's fun for a short 5-7 minute segment on The Tonight Show but not sure if it's going to be sustainable for a series. I know they like the Celebrity banter of the segments so they might hype that up a little as well but I envision it as too dry for today's audiences. I would be ok with it, but I'm not your average TV watcher. Now, that original format can be a part of it but in my mind there needs to be something else as well to make it hold onto viewers and mix it up some. I can envision a round(s) of classic Password, then maybe a few puzzles as in PP and SP. I think those are fun trying to figure out but I don't think it needs to be the entire format. I am thinking a hybrid of Classic and Puzzle Formats. I also think an Alphabetics type Bonus Round could be fun but so would a Lightning Round at the end for the prize. Maybe Alphabetics can be a part in some other way. I might be in the minority but in my mind there needs to be a little diversity in the format so your average viewer doesn't think it's stale. We will see what happens.
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This may be asking a lot, but can we not pass judgment on the show before it even goes into production? I think it sounds like it could be a really fun show. If something like Hollywood Game Night with its more casual party style atmosphere can last several seasons, I think this could work in that same vein.
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IMHO, I'm not so sure the simple classic, original Password format can hang these days, especially in Primetime.
Sure, it's fun for a short 5-7 minute segment on The Tonight Show but not sure if it's going to be sustainable for a series. I know they like the Celebrity banter of the segments so they might hype that up a little as well but I envision it as too dry for today's audiences. I would be ok with it, but I'm not your average TV watcher. Now, that original format can be a part of it but in my mind there needs to be something else as well to make it hold onto viewers and mix it up some. I can envision a round(s) of classic Password, then maybe a few puzzles as in PP and SP. I think those are fun trying to figure out but I don't think it needs to be the entire format. I am thinking a hybrid of Classic and Puzzle Formats. I also think an Alphabetics type Bonus Round could be fun but so would a Lightning Round at the end for the prize. Maybe Alphabetics can be a part in some other way. I might be in the minority but in my mind there needs to be a little diversity in the format so your average viewer doesn't think it's stale. We will see what happens.
I kept thinking about this as well. I completely agree that a shortened version on The Tonight Show makes sense because you can use the celebrities that are already there for the show, and then you can segue into interviews. Plus, the game can be played more for funsies.
The way I see it, this show will go one of three ways:
-Be essentially 4 games/Lightning Rounds of "Vanilla Password", and that's just too bland. It was even bland in the 1970s, and that's when you had only 30 minutes to fill.
-Not take the game seriously at all and focus way too much on Jimmy and the celebs chewing up the scenery.
-Take the game way too seriously and combine it with a Mega-Tension bonus round for big money that takes way too long to play.
Honestly, having seen Fallon for a long time, I am more fearful of #2 and trying to generate YouTube-worthy moments vs. the others. That said, given that we still have ABC's Pyramid, there's another part of me that thinks Password is largely a relic of its time and can stay on Buzzr, with Pyramid (or even 25 Words or Less) really being the "modern-day" Password.
/Did that stop me from filling out a contestant application? Nope...
//Will that stop me from watching it when it premieres? Nope...
Anthony
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This may be asking a lot, but can we not pass judgment on the show before it even goes into production?
You must be new here. ;)
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This may be asking a lot, but can we not pass judgment on the show before it even goes into production? I think it sounds like it could be a really fun show. If something like Hollywood Game Night with its more casual party style atmosphere can last several seasons, I think this could work in that same vein.
To be perfectly fair, your post could be construed as the same - you're saying very early on that you're optimistic, while others want to be skeptical. Personally, I think it's all valid. It's a discussion board, after all. (And honestly, I scroll a lot in threads like these, when people get granular about what they hope to see.)
-Jason
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The bookings for this will be the draw.
Serena Williams vs. William Shatner.
/ducking
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This may be asking a lot, but can we not pass judgment on the show before it even goes into production? I think it sounds like it could be a really fun show. If something like Hollywood Game Night with its more casual party style atmosphere can last several seasons, I think this could work in that same vein.
To be perfectly fair, your post could be construed as the same - you're saying very early on that you're optimistic, while others want to be skeptical. Personally, I think it's all valid. It's a discussion board, after all. (And honestly, I scroll a lot in threads like these, when people get granular about what they hope to see.)
-Jason
Fair enough. I guess my main point was to not automatically say it's going to be bad because it's a classic show being made for a 21st century audience.
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Who in the thread said it was going to be "bad"? I don't see anyone passing judgment before the show airs. I just see a group of Game Show fans discussing their opinions on a.......discussion board.
I'm sure the show will be fine and I'm sure it's in good hands. My point was only that it could be bland in some people's eyes if they do only what they're doing on the Tonight Show segments. That being said I'm actually looking forward to see how it turns out! I'm pretty impressed with That's My Jam.
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Who in the thread said it was going to be "bad"? I don't see anyone passing judgment before the show airs. I just see a group of Game Show fans discussing their opinions on a.......discussion board.
We've done a good job of that here. I can't say the same for other places online.
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This may be asking a lot, but can we not pass judgment on the show before it even goes into production? I think it sounds like it could be a really fun show. If something like Hollywood Game Night with its more casual party style atmosphere can last several seasons, I think this could work in that same vein.
This is Password, not Snap Judgment.
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Sorry, I didn't mean to stifle the conversation in this thread.
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Bumping this thread up as NBC announced that actress Keke Palmer will host NBC's "Password" revival ...
https://deadline.com/2022/04/keke-palmer-to-host-password-reboot-nbc-jimmy-fallon-1235000771/
No premiere date has been announced but per the article ....
-- Initial season will be eight episodes
-- First episode will be a tribute to Betty White
-- Jimmy Fallon will be the "permanent celebrity panelist"
-- The season finale will be a celebrity game for charity
JD
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Looks like the logo is more in vein of the old 60s PW, which should put to rest the speculation of it being like Super Password, etc.
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I wouldn't hold your breath that it'll reflect anything about the finished product.
The password is: correct.
Per a post from Buzzr (https://fb.watch/clA7bSq3KM/), here's the logo for the latest incarnation of the show:
(https://i.postimg.cc/0jVLsM4h/Screenshot-20220412-143848-01-01.jpg)
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What's the deal with giving hosting jobs to women who have no business hosting game shows? It's a sure road to failure.
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Looks like the logo is more in vein of the old 60s PW, which should put to rest the speculation of it being like Super Password, etc.
Let's keep in mind that there's no correlation between logo and gameplay. Keep in mind they updated the 80s "worm" logo for the audition link, so it could just have been a function of "this logo looks modern with a touch of yesteryear"
What's the deal with giving hosting jobs to women who have no business hosting game shows? It's a sure road to failure.
What's the deal with giving GSF accounts to people who have no business on mostly troll-free boards?
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What's the deal with giving hosting jobs to women who have no business hosting game shows? It's a sure road to failure.
WOW.
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What's the deal with giving hosting jobs to women who have no business hosting game shows? It's a sure road to failure.
WOW.
. Well, then I'd ask who's your favorite game show host?
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What's the deal with giving hosting jobs to women who have no business hosting game shows? It's a sure road to failure.
3/10. Hot take about as edgy as a butter knife.
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Was it Jimmy who was opposed to women in the workforce because it resulted in lower ratings for daytime game shows, or am I thinking of someone else?
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What's the deal with giving hosting jobs to women who have no business hosting game shows? It's a sure road to failure.
Holy triple jump over the line Batman.
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What's the deal with giving hosting jobs to women who have no business hosting game shows? It's a sure road to failure.
Holy triple jump over the line Batman.
Who was the better host for you? Tomarken or Banks?
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Was it Jimmy who was opposed to women in the workforce because it resulted in lower ratings for daytime game shows, or am I thinking of someone else?
You're right.
Women in the workplace destroyed both game shows and soaps. Housewives don't exist. They are earning a second family paycheck, not watching TV.
You have a problem with this?
Yeah, don't you?
And he showed the same remarkable lack of self-awareness in responding that he did here.
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What's the deal with giving hosting jobs to women who have no business hosting game shows? It's a sure road to failure.
The password is: YIKES…
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What's the deal with giving hosting jobs to women who have no business hosting game shows? It's a sure road to failure.
The password is: YIKES…
Just stating what people are thinking. Good luck on the remake.
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Just stating what people are thinking. Good luck on the remake.
No, you’re saying what you’re thinking and it’s gross and disgusting and sexist (and, in this case, likely racist). So, please keep it to yourself.
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Just stating what people are thinking. Good luck on the remake.
No, you’re saying what you’re thinking and it’s gross and disgusting and sexist (and, in this case, likely racist). So, please keep it to yourself.
Not the case. Not racist.
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It’s as easy as report and block. If enough of us report the posts the moderators will need to address it at some point.
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It’s as easy as report and block. If enough of us report the posts the moderators will need to address it at some point.
Agreed!
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It’s as easy as report and block. If enough of us report the posts the moderators will need to address it at some point.
Agreed!
Yeah, they're talking about you there, bucko.
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It’s as easy as report and block. If enough of us report the posts the moderators will need to address it at some point.
Agreed!
Yeah, they're talking about you there, bucko.
We shall see if the show lasts beyond the initial order.
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It’s as easy as report and block. If enough of us report the posts the moderators will need to address it at some point.
Agreed!
Yeah, they're talking about you there, bucko.
He knows. He's back on his trolling shit to get folks talking again, even though the discussion should be about the revival. This has probably gone on and derailed the topic enough, and I think we should all move on.
/I like the logo
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Do we think the format will be similar to OG Password?
My gut reaction was no, but if they decide to play it loosely like on Tonight, then maybe it'll be a better option than a Password Plus-style format.
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I’m really interested to see how this goes considering that Jimmy and Keke both have the propensity to go completely off the rails; it’s fine to do that in a celebrity-only environment, but it’s different when regular people have real money at stake.
I hope they bring back the puzzles if only because they add a play-at-home factor that you don’t get with Classic Password.
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Do we think the format will be similar to OG Password?
My gut reaction was no, but if they decide to play it loosely like on Tonight, then maybe it'll be a better option than a Password Plus-style format.
For years, I've proposed a "hybrid" of the OG Password that uses a cross between the Lightning Round and Alphabetics for the end game.
Each word, both teams get up to three guesses, starting at 10 points all the way down to 5. First to 25 goes to the Lightning Round.
Lightning Round: five words in :30, $1,000 a pop. You then play for 5x that amount in Alphabetics.
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What's the deal with giving hosting jobs to women who have no business hosting game shows? It's a sure road to failure.
Holy triple jump over the line Batman.
Who was the better host for you? Tomarken or Banks?
Don't know . But as for sure road to failure. It was renewed for a 4th season while ABc cancelled 5 others, 4 hosted by men, two Daytime Emmy winners for game show host and a third nominated for the Prime Timd Emmy for host.
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What's the deal with giving hosting jobs to women who have no business hosting game shows? It's a sure road to failure.
Holy triple jump over the line Batman.
Who was the better host for you? Tomarken or Banks?
Don't know . But as for sure road to failure. It was renewed for a 4th season while ABc cancelled 5 others, 4 hosted by men, two Daytime Emmy winners for game show host and a third nominated for the Prime Timd Emmy for host.
Well, back in the eighties, there were 260 shows in a season. Nowadays,as few as 8 shows constitutes a season.
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Hmmmm...don't really know Keke Palmer. I'm not always a fan of celebrity host casting, but have been proven wrong before.
Jimmy as "permanent" celebrity guest? So...ONE rotating celebrity player? Not sure I like this. This isn't Match Game where you have a regular/regulars every week.
/ Reminds me of a joke I made ages ago when Match Game '98 came into being, how a Pearson Password would have only one celebrity player.
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Hmmmm...don't really know Keke Palmer. I'm not always a fan of celebrity host casting, but have been proven wrong before.
Keke was the co-host of "Strahan, Sara and Keke." Ironically, all three became game show hosts.
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This may be asking a lot, but can we not pass judgment on the show before it even goes into production? I think it sounds like it could be a really fun show. If something like Hollywood Game Night with its more casual party style atmosphere can last several seasons, I think this could work in that same vein.
Regrettably I think the answer is no--if there was internet in the 70s some of our number would be savaging MG or TPIR or heaven forfend Jeopardy 78.
Password has such a long and distinguished pedigree that everybody will should be able to find something to dislike in the new version. Heck, I was ok with the most recent version but for a couple of issues that I would have changed--I have no problem with word communication against the clock.
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Let's keep in mind that there's no correlation between logo and gameplay. Keep in mind they updated the 80s "worm" logo for the audition link, so it could just have been a function of "this logo looks modern with a touch of yesteryear"
Oh, absolutely. That's why I had brought it up again - to help put the cries of "OMG 80s logo it's gonna be like Super Password" to rest.
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What's the deal with giving hosting jobs to women who have no business hosting game shows? It's a sure road to failure.
How do you know she has no business hosting game shows until you've seen her host one? Keke Palmer knows how to ad-lib. She hosts a live show (with another game-show host, no less) so the transition from that one to Password does not seem like much of a stretch. Let's not bang our gavels before the court gets to hear the case.
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What's the deal with giving hosting jobs to women who have no business hosting game shows? It's a sure road to failure.
How do you know she has no business hosting game shows until you've seen her host one? Keke Palmer knows how to ad-lib. She hosts a live show (with another game-show host, no less) so the transition from that one to Password does not seem like much of a stretch. Let's not bang our gavels before the court gets to hear the case.
Wonder why they passed over the guy who hosts the Fallon spoof?
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Wonder why they passed over the guy who hosts the Fallon spoof?
Ironically, maybe he was in the kitchen making dinner for his old lady?
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What's the deal with giving hosting jobs to women who have no business hosting game shows? It's a sure road to failure.
How do you know she has no business hosting game shows until you've seen her host one? Keke Palmer knows how to ad-lib. She hosts a live show (with another game-show host, no less) so the transition from that one to Password does not seem like much of a stretch. Let's not bang our gavels before the court gets to hear the case.
Wonder why they passed over the guy who hosts the Fallon spoof?
Okie dokie. I'll chime in like you've gotten many to bite over the past five days. Among the numerous hunches, perhaps Steve didn't want to do it. Perhaps Steve is busy working on SNL which he still does. And while he's had the visible role of announcer of Late Night/Tonight Show for over a decade, I feel like he's still not a terribly visible figure outside of that role and NBC wants all the draw they can get for the show besides just Jimmy's weekly appearance and the various guest celebs.
I'm curious as to who you'd consider having business hosting game shows. Because, listen, the "archetype" of the game show host that was built in the 60s and lasted through the 90s is gone. In addition to that, most "game show hosts" get their chops from being performers and entertainers. Bert Convy and Larry Blyden did Broadway, Chuck Woolery was a folk singer, Pat Sajak was a weatherman, Richard Dawson was a comedian, Peter Marshall was also a comedian/entertainer.
So, it's weird to dismiss someone with Keke Palmer's resume who has proven she can be quite the entertainer in addition to an excellent actress. I'd honestly say she's got the most personality of her former GMA co-hosts.
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David Faber would be my first choice
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David Faber would be my first choice
I wonder what makes David Faber different from Keke… oh, wait, I see now…
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David Faber would be my first choice
He was amazing on Jeopardy. I think he was a lot better then Ken and Mayim.
I would love to see him host Millionaire.
Keke brought life to GMA3 and i thought she would make a great talk show host. We have to give her a chance before we pass judgement on how she does
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David Faber would be my first choice
I wonder what makes David Faber different from Keke… oh, wait, I see now…
Oh dear.
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David Faber would be my first choice
I'd never even heard of David before he did Jeopardy, but he was one of my favorite guest hosts. I'd definitely love to see him get another game show at some point.
As for Keke, I only vaguely knew of her work before she was announced as host, so I basically gave myself a crash course in her career. And man, she's done a LOT. Acting, singing, interviewing...she's got a very impressive resume so far, and I can absolutely see her doing a great job behind the Password desk. I second the rest of the board's thoughts in saying it's worth giving her a shot...every game show host has to have a first show, after all.