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Title: Name That Tune w/Jim Lange now on Tubi.tv
Post by: snowpeck on June 05, 2021, 01:48:32 AM
No idea how long they've been there, but presumably to tie into the current version, Tubi.tv has added a selection of Jim Lange Name That Tune episodes.
 (https://tubitv.com/series/300007122/100-000-name-that-tune)

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Post by: jage on June 05, 2021, 07:51:23 PM
Wow, that's something I never expected to see pop up, especially with the usual supposed hurdles around music licensing. I may be in the minority, but definitely enjoyed this as a kid watching it on the Family Channel and will definitely check these out. Also, interesting to hear the various theme experiments during the first 5 shows.
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Post by: Neumms on June 08, 2021, 11:57:13 PM
I assume Tubi is free? Or maybe they pay you to stream it?
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Post by: JMFabiano on June 10, 2021, 09:16:18 AM
I watched the first episode....what a curb stomp match.  What was interesting was that they put in fee plugs with the series theme song and logo. 

Tune Countdown needed to be replaced indeed...makes the Golden Medley feel redundant, and would have moreso when it came time for the Golden Medley Showdown to determine who won the $100K. 
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Post by: Blanquepage on June 10, 2021, 09:33:43 AM
I assume Tubi is free? Or maybe they pay you to stream it?
Free with ads.
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Post by: TimK2003 on June 10, 2021, 08:10:40 PM
I could have sworn that in one of the first three episodes during Bid-A-Note, the female contestant had to guess on 3 notes, but the piano player only played two notes, and there was an awkward look by said contestant expecting a 3rd note.
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Post by: jlgarfield on June 10, 2021, 10:39:05 PM
Was one of the pilots with the really obnoxious contestant included in this package of eps? Just curious.
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Post by: Allstar87 on June 11, 2021, 02:56:01 AM
Was one of the pilots with the really obnoxious contestant included in this package of eps? Just curious.

If you're thinking of Alfred...and you almost certainly are...his episode was not included. He was on the very first taped episode; when it comes to that first week, Tubi only has the second and fourth taped.
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Post by: WarioBarker on June 11, 2021, 01:30:58 PM
[Alfred] was on the very first taped episode; when it comes to that first week, Tubi only has the second and fourth taped.
Actually, looking at the episodes we have with that original set, I suspect Donna vs. Ken was the first taped: it has no graphics for the players' names (the others do), Jim interviews the players before explaining the format and going to Melody Roulette (the others put the interviews later in the show), and Jim spins the Melody Roulette wheels himself (the others have the players spinning the wheels as "masters of their own fate").
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Post by: chargeradiocom on June 12, 2021, 01:53:07 PM
Wow, that's something I never expected to see pop up, especially with the usual supposed hurdles around music licensing. I may be in the minority, but definitely enjoyed this as a kid watching it on the Family Channel and will definitely check these out. Also, interesting to hear the various theme experiments during the first 5 shows.
My feelings almost entirely. I enjoyed watching the show as a kid, though I didn’t know much of the music. I can go about 50/50 now on identifying the songs in these episodes, though so many of them are old standards that are now highly obscure. (FWIW, I think they got the music mix on the new version about right, representing the 60s to now pretty well, and I can identify most of the tunes, though this new version definitely has its issues. But that’s a discussion for another thread.)

In any case, nice to see these Lange-era eps online.
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Post by: wxfrcaster on June 12, 2021, 09:29:53 PM
I had forgotten how many different versions of the Melody Roulette wheels there were!  Obviously the pilot version, but then there was the smaller wheel with a narrow font, the larger wheel with a bold font was in two different positions (higher and lower), and the higher valued wheel when they went to one spin only.
Title: Re: Name That Tune w/Jim Lange now on Tubi.tv
Post by: knagl on June 14, 2021, 01:04:23 AM
Maybe this belongs in the Show Summaries board, but I didn't want to start a new topic just for this.

I've been watching the episodes on Tubi from the start, and I just finished what they have labeled as S01:EP5 - Show #115 (https://tubitv.com/tv-shows/601776/s01-e05-show-115?start=true), and holy cow. Beyond the Golden Medley, keep watching after you think the show is over for a jaw-dropping surprise, and an incredibly strange way they edited the video and audio to pull it off.

It sure seemed like Jim was talking to try and explain it and wrap up the show again, but they opted to not use his audio? Very, very strange, especially considering Ray did not give the correct title of the song.
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Post by: MSTieScott on June 14, 2021, 01:13:35 AM
That was indeed an odd moment, but I was more amused by the beginning of the episode. As soon as the two contestants were on the stage to play Melody Roulette, you can see multiple audience members walking in front of the camera in order to leave. Apparently the opportunity to watch Name That Tune wasn't compelling enough to get them to stay one second longer than necessary.
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Post by: knagl on June 14, 2021, 02:07:59 AM
Haha yes, that was pretty bizarre. I imagine the director was probably screaming in the control room.
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Post by: Kniwt on June 14, 2021, 11:00:59 AM
OK, that's truly bizarre. I don't see why they didn't cut directly: (a) from the contestant saying the title to Jim announcing the win; or (b) from Jim calling for the judge to Jim announcing the win. Presumably something went really wrong with the re-take, which would explain why only saw the video from it. (They didn't check before everyone went home?)

Nevertheless, even given what the editors had to work with in terms of both content and technology, ending the show almost any other way would've been better. For comparison, I think of the times on original Pyramid when Dick announced that a Winner's Circle "loss" had, upon further review, been turned into a win. Even in such an awkward situation, I seem to remember Dick handling it very well ... which, of course, also means that the show was edited very well to make it look that way.
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Post by: Chief-O on June 14, 2021, 12:53:50 PM
OK, that's truly bizarre. I don't see why they didn't cut directly: (a) from the contestant saying the title to Jim announcing the win; or (b) from Jim calling for the judge to Jim announcing the win. Presumably something went really wrong with the re-take, which would explain why only saw the video from it. (They didn't check before everyone went home?)

I just watched it, and it was beyond awkward. I'd have to hope that, perhaps, they edited things a little nicer when the show aired.

Then again, the phrases "poor editing" and "Sandy Frank" tend to go hand in hand.
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Post by: BrandonFG on June 14, 2021, 02:32:32 PM
Maybe this belongs in the Show Summaries board, but I didn't want to start a new topic just for this.

I've been watching the episodes on Tubi from the start, and I just finished what they have labeled as S01:EP5 - Show #115 (https://tubitv.com/tv-shows/601776/s01-e05-show-115?start=true), and holy cow. Beyond the Golden Medley, keep watching after you think the show is over for a jaw-dropping surprise, and an incredibly strange way they edited the video and audio to pull it off.

It sure seemed like Jim was talking to try and explain it and wrap up the show again, but they opted to not use his audio? Very, very strange, especially considering Ray did not give the correct title of the song.
Is it just me or did they just keep looping Ray's spinning reaction over and over for the credits? Felt like I was watching a Boomerang video for a second. It almost bordered on parody.
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Post by: gamed121683 on June 14, 2021, 03:00:13 PM
Then again, the phrases "poor editing" and "Sandy Frank" tend to go hand in hand.

Might be time to break out his theme song again. Hit it, boys!

https://youtu.be/IvN10-n1NBc


Fixed a broken quote box. -knagl
Title: Re: Name That Tune w/Jim Lange now on Tubi.tv
Post by: knagl on June 14, 2021, 05:04:03 PM
I'd have to hope that, perhaps, they edited things a little nicer when the show aired.

Do we have any reason to think that what we saw on Tubi is any different than what aired?


Felt like I was watching a Boomerang video for a second. It almost bordered on parody.

I guess I initially just thought it was excitement over the incident, but watching it again you're absolutely right -- they used the same footage a few times in a row. I'm guessing to have something relevant on the screen, but it wound up just contributing to the weirdness of how the whole thing was handled.
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Post by: ChrisLambert! on June 14, 2021, 05:33:19 PM
What you’re seeing on tubi is exactly how it aired.
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Post by: tyshaun1 on June 15, 2021, 11:05:34 AM
What you’re seeing on tubi is exactly how it aired.
Yeah, I don't think anyone would go through the trouble of editing a 37-year-old game show at this point. It just speaks to the cheap feel of this production.
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Post by: BrandonFG on June 15, 2021, 12:05:06 PM
I’m not surprised that’s how it aired - because Sandy Frank - but for a second I thought it could’ve been a studio master, while a different version aired on TV.

A few years ago, when the WKRP box set came out, there was one episode with an alternate ending rarely seen in syndication. Some people said they didn’t even remember it originally airing on CBS. This reminded me a bit of that.
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Post by: tyshaun1 on June 15, 2021, 12:56:51 PM
A few years ago, when the WKRP box set came out, there was one episode with an alternate ending rarely seen in syndication. Some people said they didn’t even remember it originally airing on CBS. This reminded me a bit of that.
There have been several episodes of PYL on Buzzr that have had different edits than what aired on GSN and USA, biggest example being the Halloween '84 episode. The GSN/USA edit had an opening segment (taped during the next session) where Peter showed off various kids' drawings of the Whammy and the ending where Peter dances with a mask on; the Buzzr edit is missing the drawings and the dancing is cut short. Not sure which version aired on CBS, however.
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Post by: Bob Zager on June 22, 2021, 03:40:47 PM
Wasn't there almost a deal to bring the Tom Kennedy hosted versions (from Ralph Edwards Productions) to GSN?
Title: Re: Name That Tune w/Jim Lange now on Tubi.tv
Post by: Otm Shank on June 24, 2021, 01:46:09 PM
Wasn't there almost a deal to bring the Tom Kennedy hosted versions (from Ralph Edwards Productions) to GSN?

I would presume such a move would be nothing more than fleeting discussions, based on the fact that the GSN Pyramid cuckooed and censored any whiff of a harmony for as little as two words.

As for this awkward reveal, I remembered that was the way it originally aired from the unusual way it played out. Also, they reordered in post the yawn-inducing Grand Prize Footage (™ Sandy Frank Productions, all rights reserved) to appear before the endgame in order to condense the time from the end of the game to the reversal.

Based on the video, it looks like the awkwardness started from the producer's table, and Jim Lange's maladroit ad-libbing skills couldn't pull it off. With both looking offstage, and then the contestant's reaction, Lange would have had to explain why the contestant is suddenly cheering over the band playing. Possibly, the band stopped playing for a bit, making it even more awkward, and they decided to not re-create the reaction (actually a good thing). I think Sandy Frank was judge, jury, and executioner, and he had varying degrees of inconsistency throughout. Still, the answer was wrong, and couldn't be brushed off as a minor word in the title, as they occasionally would allow.

The people in the audience that were leaving were in the contestant section. This would lead me to believe this was the last taping in a session, and a couple of frustrated wannabe contestants just bailed out when they weren't going to be called. It probably bumped them out of the contestant pool for future tapings.