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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: vexer6 on May 31, 2021, 11:04:56 PM
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Personally I cannot watch anything with Chuck Woolery anymore now that I know what a vile bigoted piece of shit he is in real life, separating the art from the artist is when one thing when you are talking about fictional media, I can still enjoy works by the likes of Mel Gibson and even Bill Cosby(and just about every other problematic individual in entertainment) as there's a degree of separation there since they are playing fictional characters(though those aren't without their awkward moments) but with a game show it's completely different and much harder to separate the show from what the host did since the show is trying to present the host in a good light and make them out to be charming(for the most part, unless they are putting on an act as a mean person ala Anne Robinson)and that falls apart if outside the show they make an ass of themselves.
I also have some issues with the Barker era of Price is Right knowing what a dick he was to some of the women on the show, he's been accused of sexual harassment more then once so while the man may have done a lot of good for animal rights, I just can't watch him on the show knowing what a creep he was behind the scenes.
It's pretty fucked up that a genuinely nice person like Trebeck died but an awful person like Woolery is still around somehow.
If you can still enjoy their old shows no judgement from me, but I personally just can't bring myself to watch them anymore.
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You might wanna take this to the Political forum. I’m not a fan of him either, but this isn’t where we talk about that kind of thing.
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You might wanna take this to the Political forum. I’m not a fan of him either, but this isn’t where we talk about that kind of thing.
Oh I thought that was only for stuff completely unrelated to game shows?
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Nope. I'm even on record during a podcast saying that "someone should take away his internet access" but I can still set that aside to watch him hold court over Scrabble. Or Bob Barker on The Price is Right. It's just being able to portion that stuff out. I am more apt to not watch a show with a lousy host than someone that I disagree with.
I'm sure that wasn't the answer you were looking for, but there y'are.
EDIT: Vexing one: BFG was saying that maybe this wasn't the best place for this particular discussion.
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Nope. I'm even on record during a podcast saying that "someone should take away his internet access" but I can still set that aside to watch him hold court over Scrabble. Or Bob Barker on The Price is Right. It's just being able to portion that stuff out. I am more apt to not watch a show with a lousy host than someone that I disagree with.
I'm sure that wasn't the answer you were looking for, but there y'are.
EDIT: Vexing one: BFG was saying that maybe this wasn't the best place for this particular discussion.
Vexing one what the heck? ???
Anyways I know what he was saying, just surprised is all.
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As I posted when the new Supermarket Sweep premiered, I cannot stand Leslie Jones and she pretty much single-handedly ruined the revival for me. In fairness, I did tune in to a later episode and she seemed to have toned it down and was a bit more tolerable.
Personally, as long as they don't turn the show into a soapbox, a host's political beliefs don't really bother me either way. Everyone's entitled to their opinion and life experiences.
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Not a fan of any host who, in the pre-show publicity, says something like..."I had never wanted to do a game show, but they offered me so much money I couldn't resist.."
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As I posted when the new Supermarket Sweep premiered, I cannot stand Leslie Jones and she pretty much single-handedly ruined the revival for me. In fairness, I did tune in to a later episode and she seemed to have toned it down and was a bit more tolerable.
Personally, as long as they don't turn the show into a soapbox, a host's political beliefs don't really bother me either way. Everyone's entitled to their opinion and life experiences.
Had no idea there was a revival of Sweep, I like Jones as an actress but I can't really picture her as a host.
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Not a fan of any host who, in the pre-show publicity, says something like..."I had never wanted to do a game show, but they offered me so much money I couldn't resist.."
9/10 that’s prolly a quote that the PR folks came up with, just tailored to sound like covering the host(ess) would say.
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I can’t change the channel fast enough when the current incarnation of Feud is on with that ignorant, egomaniacal, braying jackass Steve Harvey. His only goal is to create reaction moments for himself. He’s unwatchable. Plus there’s this:
https://youtu.be/az0BJRQ1cqM
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I refuse to watch the new PYL. Elizabeth Banks gives me the vibe of "Look at me! I'm a game show host!"
Similarly, I won't be watching the new Quiz Bowl. I tend to frown on those who commit sexual assaults.
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I can’t change the channel fast enough when the current incarnation of Feud is on with that ignorant, egomaniacal, braying jackass Steve Harvey. His only goal is to create reaction moments for himself. He’s unwatchable.
Problematic views aside, I miss his first couple of seasons, when he played straight man to the contestants, and half the surveys weren't written to elicit the "Steve Blank Stares In Your Direction Before Telling You That You're Going To Hell" TM reaction.
It's a shame, because he was really good then, and I'm not sure if he understands that he's now just part of the joke, not in on it.
As I posted when the new Supermarket Sweep premiered, I cannot stand Leslie Jones and she pretty much single-handedly ruined the revival for me. In fairness, I did tune in to a later episode and she seemed to have toned it down and was a bit more tolerable.
Leslie definitely had some over the top instances, but I chalked hers up to being an actual fan of the show, not someone actually putting on for the camera.
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I refuse to watch the new PYL. Elizabeth Banks gives me the vibe of "Look at me! I'm a game show host!"
Similarly, I won't be watching the new Quiz Bowl. I tend to frown on those who commit sexual assaults.
Elizabeth does have some good moments, though. There have been contestants she played off well in the "let's meet our players" segments.
There's more moments I think she works more than, say, even Drew Carey.
As for the OP...well, mostly if it's a celebrity I am not a fan of will I not want to watch. Or just someone who isn't a good host.
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I've always had a hard time watching anything with Jim Lange. He just doesn't come off as sincere or really engaging to watch.
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I've always had a hard time watching anything with Jim Lange. He just doesn't come off as sincere or really engaging to watch.
Jim runs his games fine. He just doesn't do well with anything beyond it.
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It's pretty fucked up that a genuinely nice person like Trebeck died but an awful person like Woolery is still around somehow.
Wow, single most offensive thing I've read on this forum, and that says a lot. Wishing death on a person. I've met Chuck in person and we had a long conversation. You've never met a nicer guy.
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It's pretty fucked up that a genuinely nice person like Trebeck died but an awful person like Woolery is still around somehow.
Wow, single most offensive thing I've read on this forum, and that says a lot. Wishing death on a person.
I was wondering how long before someone said something.
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It's pretty fucked up that a genuinely nice person like Trebeck died but an awful person like Woolery is still around somehow.
Wow, single most offensive thing I've read on this forum, and that says a lot. Wishing death on a person. I've met Chuck in person and we had a long conversation. You've never met a nicer guy.
If that's the most offensive thing you've read on here consider yourself lucky ;D
Sorry but I don't see anyone that spouts white supremacist garbage as being particularly "nice" >:(
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chuck-woolery-hitler_n_60b5fa02e4b02a79db91fa2f (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chuck-woolery-hitler_n_60b5fa02e4b02a79db91fa2f)
There's plenty of people nicer than him, if he's the nicest person you've ever met you need to meet more people.
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It's pretty fucked up that a genuinely nice person like Trebeck died but an awful person like Woolery is still around somehow.
Wow, single most offensive thing I've read on this forum, and that says a lot. Wishing death on a person.
I was wondering how long before someone said something.
Somehow I very highly doubt my post is the most offensive thing ever said on here.
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I refuse to watch the new PYL. Elizabeth Banks gives me the vibe of "Look at me! I'm a game show host!"
Similarly, I won't be watching the new Quiz Bowl. I tend to frown on those who commit sexual assaults.
Elizabeth does have some good moments, though. There have been contestants she played off well in the "let's meet our players" segments.
There's more moments I think she works more than, say, even Drew Carey.
As for the OP...well, mostly if it's a celebrity I am not a fan of will I not want to watch. Or just someone who isn't a good host.
I much prefer watching Carey on Price is Right over Barker myself.
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I can’t change the channel fast enough when the current incarnation of Feud is on with that ignorant, egomaniacal, braying jackass Steve Harvey. His only goal is to create reaction moments for himself. He’s unwatchable.
Problematic views aside, I miss his first couple of seasons, when he played straight man to the contestants, and half the surveys weren't written to elicit the "Steve Blank Stares In Your Direction Before Telling You That You're Going To Hell" TM reaction.
It's a shame, because he was really good then, and I'm not sure if he understands that he's now just part of the joke, not in on it.
As I posted when the new Supermarket Sweep premiered, I cannot stand Leslie Jones and she pretty much single-handedly ruined the revival for me. In fairness, I did tune in to a later episode and she seemed to have toned it down and was a bit more tolerable.
Leslie definitely had some over the top instances, but I chalked hers up to being an actual fan of the show, not someone actually putting on for the camera.
Steve Harvey's downfall was really sad as he was someone I genuinely admired, I loved his sitcom and stand-up specials and I was very happy when he was announced as the new Feud host and I used to regularly watch his episodes on Youtube. But once he started hanging out with agent orange and spouting stupid garbage I lost a ton of respect for him, admittedly i'd fallen off watching Feud long before Harvey's fall from grave, but seeing how low he's sunk has confirmed to me that I don't really have any desire to watch him on Feud anymore.
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vexer6:
We have received numerous complaints about the tone of your posts.
You need to tone it down A LOT. If we continue to receive complaints about the tone of your posts, your membership WILL be revoked.
Kevin has already warned you. THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING.
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I know I've stated this before, but I just couldn't stand Bob Eubanks on Card Sharks and I know how much this fact has hurt him to this day lol. There were many points I felt he was being overly obnoxious to a contestant at their expense. I felt he was an asshole to Ray Combs when he was trying to promote Feud in '88. I know Richard Dawson did the same kind of thing, but the difference is that he had that charm and could get the contestant to laugh along with him at his/herself. I felt Eubanks was pompous and that's putting it lightly. I watched it because I like Card Sharks and was thrilled that it was back. But, when Rafferty's version came along, that was all I needed. Is Bob a good game show host? Well, the answer must be yes because he got hired for many shows, so this is all just my opinion. And given that I teach 6th graders on the concept of fact vs. opinion, I have been making it a point to say that to them just about all the time and it's crossed over into my daily life.
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I felt he was an asshole to Ray Combs when he was trying to promote Feud in '88.
Are you referring to the contestant plug battle? Because Ray took far more jabs at Bob than vice versa (all in fun, of course).
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I've always thought Eubanks comes off as smarmy. I wouldn't want to buy a used car from him.
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I've always thought Eubanks comes off as smarmy. I wouldn't want to buy a used car from him.
Would you buy a new car from him though? ;)
The smarm is definitely present, everywhere he goes. It’s just a matter of whether it bugs you enough to not watch, I guess. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t.
I will say this about Bob, overt smarminess aside, most of the shows he’s done he’s carried pretty well. I didn’t like him on Dream House and his Card Sharks work was okay for awhile, but I thought he performed pretty well on Trivia Trap.
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I felt he was an asshole to Ray Combs when he was trying to promote Feud in '88.
Are you referring to the contestant plug battle? Because Ray took far more jabs at Bob than vice versa (all in fun, of course).
Yes, that would be the one. I'll have to go back and see if I can find the episode in question. Maybe it's just my disliking of Eubanks that clouded my judgement, but I just got the impression that he was being an asshole to Ray.
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I know I've stated this before, but I just couldn't stand Bob Eubanks on Card Sharks and I know how much this fact has hurt him to this day lol. There were many points I felt he was being overly obnoxious to a contestant at their expense. I felt he was an asshole to Ray Combs when he was trying to promote Feud in '88. I know Richard Dawson did the same kind of thing, but the difference is that he had that charm and could get the contestant to laugh along with him at his/herself. I felt Eubanks was pompous and that's putting it lightly. I watched it because I like Card Sharks and was thrilled that it was back. But, when Rafferty's version came along, that was all I needed. Is Bob a good game show host? Well, the answer must be yes because he got hired for many shows, so this is all just my opinion.
I think a lot of Eubanks' TV persona came from his Newlywed Game experience. A show that essentially was a 30 minute interview with questions designed to get illicit or moronic responses. Eubanks seemed to drive Card Sharks with a similar style and eventually Mimi O'Brien capitulated by adding the 10 person surveys and educated guesses when she came aboard. IMO, it hindered the game, and eventually, the show.
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I disagree; I liked the ten person surveys and the educated guess questions. The former usually were good for a laugh or two and I do enjoy trivia
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It took a bit of getting used to, but I felt it added a good variety of questions while still sticking with the higher/lower format of the questions and playing the cards.
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Honestly, I always imagined Card Sharks working without surveys or educated guess questions; just use the same question format from High Rollers. You’d get everything done quick and maybe guarantee yourself two Money Cards per episode.
I may be the only one who thinks that, but there ya have it.
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Just thought of one: Billy On the Street. The concept enough is fine...Billy approaches random people and asks them questions or has them play mini-games.
Problem is, Billy is so damn hyper and obnoxious that I feel someone should pay me for making through an episode.
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For the few radio airchecks of Eubanks on L.A. Radio in the 60s I heard over the years, he sounded so laid back, not even close to his TV persona.
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Honestly, I always imagined Card Sharks working without surveys or educated guess questions; just use the same question format from High Rollers. You’d get everything done quick and maybe guarantee yourself two Money Cards per episode.
I may be the only one who thinks that, but there ya have it.
I think the problem there is that you don't have the two-step of "high-low tossup question leads to calling high low on the cards." Plus it does award control to the person who is either better at judging human nature or just luckier in terms of getting the right numbers.
My opinion on Bob has changed--I don't dislike him as a person anymore rather I don't love bringing TNG to CS. His work on Dream House and Trivia Trap was good if not exemplary.
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My opinion on Bob has changed--I don't dislike him as a person anymore rather I don't love bringing TNG to CS. His work on Dream House and Trivia Trap was good if not exemplary.
To clarify what I meant on "hurting the show" is that the producers seemed to revolve the show more around the audience surveys where Bob could generate more NG-style commentary. They even started doing promos on who would be their participants each week as if that would be the reason to watch, and of course, changed the bonus game to use the same element. I don't blame Bob for that, he's playing to his strength. It just made Card Sharks less about... you know... cards. I do wonder if the bonus game change was the edge for it getting renewed over $25K Pyramid, since both shows were pulling the same ratings at the time (both lousy).
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I've always thought Eubanks comes off as smarmy. I wouldn't want to buy a used car from him.
Would you buy a new car from him though? ;)
Oh, definitely not. Can you imagine the extended-warranty hard-sell? ;)
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Honestly, I always imagined Card Sharks working without surveys or educated guess questions; just use the same question format from High Rollers. You’d get everything done quick and maybe guarantee yourself two Money Cards per episode.
I may be the only one who thinks that, but there ya have it.
Well, then you'd have two shows with similar formats back to back on that April day of 1978. Networks didn't do direct copies of shows back then. GT would not copy HQ.
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Honestly, I always imagined Card Sharks working without surveys or educated guess questions; just use the same question format from High Rollers. You’d get everything done quick and maybe guarantee yourself two Money Cards per episode.
I may be the only one who thinks that, but there ya have it.
I think the problem there is that you don't have the two-step of "high-low tossup question leads to calling high low on the cards." Plus it does award control to the person who is either better at judging human nature or just luckier in terms of getting the right numbers. \
And that's the elegance of Card Sharks. Ditch that at your peril. You want the show to move faster, coach the contestants not to blather before choosing an answer.
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I've always thought Eubanks comes off as smarmy. I wouldn't want to buy a used car from him.
He's a totally different guy when not emceeing a game show. You'd be surprised.
We interviewed him on his involvement in bringing the Beatles to the Hollywood Bowl in the '60s. His game-show smarminess disappears. I've also seen him promoting an item on a home shopping channel. He was masterful. The TV Academy has a "TV Legends" interview with him out of character.
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Eubanks had annoying mannerisms. One is his shortening people's names on Card Sharks--it's Susannah, not Soos. Another is how he'd slide over and hug wives on Dream House with their husbands standing right there. Yet...he was an engaging host.
Rossi what's-his-name was annoying as hell, but I'd still watch Temptation, I guess hoping it would get better.
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I've not watched Jeopardy! when the guest hosts have been news personalities. I also don't watch Strayhan's $100,000 Pyramid. Slightly off topic, if there's no one on the Match Game panel (any version) (other than Brett and CNR) whom I like I don't watch.
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Rossi what's-his-name was annoying as hell, but I'd still watch Temptation, I guess hoping it would get better.
To be honest, I felt like Rossi was trying. I noticed he even seemed like he was trying to add some of Jim Perry’s tricks as the show progressed, like he’d possibly went back & studied some old Perry episodes. But something just never seemed to click. Of course outside of a few exceptions, that wasn’t a particularly good era for rookie GS hosts. Not sure if it was the hosts themselves being ill fits for the format, or that the producers weren’t taking the time to properly prep them. But in Rossi’s case, I didn’t feel like it was a lack of effort on his part.
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Honestly, I always imagined Card Sharks working without surveys or educated guess questions; just use the same question format from High Rollers. You’d get everything done quick and maybe guarantee yourself two Money Cards per episode.
You're assuming that G-T wanted to have two Money Cards in each episode. If anything they would go to great pains to make sure that didn't happen.
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Honestly, I always imagined Card Sharks working without surveys or educated guess questions; just use the same question format from High Rollers. You’d get everything done quick and maybe guarantee yourself two Money Cards per episode.
You're assuming that G-T wanted to have two Money Cards in each episode. If anything they would go to great pains to make sure that didn't happen.
Well, there was also that.
(You’re absolutely right by the way.)
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Rossi what's-his-name was annoying as hell, but I'd still watch Temptation, I guess hoping it would get better.
To be honest, I felt like Rossi was trying. I noticed he even seemed like he was trying to add some of Jim Perry’s tricks as the show progressed, like he’d possibly went back & studied some old Perry episodes. But something just never seemed to click. Of course outside of a few exceptions, that wasn’t a particularly good era for rookie GS hosts. Not sure if it was the hosts themselves being ill fits for the format, or that the producers weren’t taking the time to properly prep them. But in Rossi’s case, I didn’t feel like it was a lack of effort on his part.
Rossi didn’t bug me as much. I think when you let him off the script, he did a perfectly admirable job. Unfortunately, to me then and still today, the biggest issue with Temptation was the structure of the game itself. I could overlook the Fame Game not being for a pick of the board and Knock-Off I thought was a fun addition. But making every other frigging round a speed round was to me a cop-out. Even if they played the last one for double stakes, which I thought was a cool idea, I already saw this twice during the game. I’ve moved on. Burned out on the concept. You should’ve had a stronger interim game. Hell, even an extra Fame Game could’ve helped.
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Rossi didn’t bug me as much. I think when you let him off the script, he did a perfectly admirable job. Unfortunately, to me then and still today, the biggest issue with Temptation was the structure of the game itself. I could overlook the Fame Game not being for a pick of the board and Knock-Off I thought was a fun addition. But making every other frigging round a speed round was to me a cop-out. Even if they played the last one for double stakes, which I thought was a cool idea, I already saw this twice during the game. I’ve moved on. Burned out on the concept. You should’ve had a stronger interim game. Hell, even an extra Fame Game could’ve helped.
I don’t disagree. As I recall, that was a time when Fremantle was doing a lot of messing with formats in ways they didn’t need to be messed with—Temptation being one of the more egregious examples. At least now it seems like they allow classic formats to mostly stand on their own, and where they do tweak formats to be more up-to-date, they generally at least make some sense and stay closer to the spirit of the original (i.e. Brady LMaD or Banks PYL).
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Card Sharks with Joel Mchale- He just acts like he's always bored and kills the tone of the show.
Match Game with Alec Baldwin. He annoys me and he's really not that funny and too cue card dependent. They always have a good panel on the show. He doesn't have that click like Gene or even Ross Shaffer had with the panel.
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When Millionaire made the format switch I watched as much as I could with both Meredith and Cedric, but when Terry Crews jumped in I had to stop because I had the same problem with his hosting as I did with Meredith’s early...they were plenty capable and did the best they could but to me, it just didn’t click. That plus Terry had way too much energy for his own good.
(Whereas with Meredith, I just felt that being as even-keeled as she was, especially early on since we weren’t too long removed from Regis, was too much of a sea change. And I held that against her probably a lot longer than I should’ve, because when I went back and saw her two Millionaires win she really was excited and happy for them. I guess sometimes your emotional state while you’re being filmed for television may not necessarily mean the same thing to everybody watching.)
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Match Game with Alec Baldwin. He annoys me and he's really not that funny and too cue card dependent. They always have a good panel on the show. He doesn't have that click like Gene or even Ross Shaffer had with the panel.
Problem I have with Alec is that a little snark goes a long way. Contestant gives a rotten answer? Fine. But not every single thing about the contestants needs a smartass reference.
I also can't stand how he yells "You'll play for...........TWENTYFIVETHOUSANDDOLLARS!" every single time to bait the audience into applause.
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Card Sharks with Joel Mchale- He just acts like he's always bored and kills the tone of the show.
This is my one right here. I'm not saying he has to be Bert Parks, but man, this is not the vehicle.
That being said, if You Don't Know Jack ever came back, his schtick would be perfect for that show.
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Joel McHale is a meh kinda host but I just think the whole presentation of Card Sharks is off. And the worst part of it is I really can’t specify why.
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Joel McHale is a meh kinda host but I just think the whole presentation of Card Sharks is off. And the worst part of it is I really can’t specify why.
To me, it checks just about every trope of a 2007 prime time show. At least the one episode I watched had that problem.
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Joel McHale is a meh kinda host but I just think the whole presentation of Card Sharks is off. And the worst part of it is I really can’t specify why.
To me, it checks just about every trope of a 2007 prime time show. At least the one episode I watched had that problem.
Can’t argue with ya there.
Honestly, I don’t think anybody who hosted that would really make it too much more watchable. Too much chrome on a simple game that doesn’t really need it.
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I think Jim Perry spoiled us for any future version of Card Sharks. This version just slows everything to a crawl. I get that they're tying to build up a little suspense, but pull the whole goddamn Band-Aid off already instead of going hair by hair. We don't need to watch someone spend 30 seconds deciding how much to bet on the next card in the bonus round and waiting another 3 seconds while the card turns around.
And I agree, Joel McHale sounded like a good choice on paper, but in practice, his brand of humor just doesn't translate well to the game. And "what is the actual number?" got old real quick.
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Here's the problem: in the '70s and '80s versions of Card Sharks, the host would read the question, get an answer from one player, get the higher/lower retort from the other, deliver the answer, declare the winner of the question... and then walk over to the cards and flip them over. In the reboot, that task has been outsourced to the dealers, meaning that Joel has practically nothing to do the whole game, and the show has to find ways to make him relevant. Telling the dealer to "show us a card higher than a 5" is a heck of a lot less interesting than flipping the damn thing over yourself.
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Here's the problem: in the '70s and '80s versions of Card Sharks, the host would read the question, get an answer from one player, get the higher/lower retort from the other, deliver the answer, declare the winner of the question... and then walk over to the cards and flip them over. In the reboot, that task has been outsourced to the dealers, meaning that Joel has practically nothing to do the whole game, and the show has to find ways to make him relevant. Telling the dealer to "show us a card higher than a 5" is a heck of a lot less interesting than flipping the damn thing over yourself.
Not to mention the obligatory brief chit chats between McHale and the contestant's personal card dealer....AND between the contestants and their card dealer.
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Basically, the ABC Card Sharks is slow where it should be fast, and fast where it should be slow.
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Jim Perry was great on Card Sharks and also I prefer Bill Raftery over Bob Eubanks. Bill had a great sense of humor didn't rush the contestants and show interest in the surveys.
I think Card Sharks works as a 30 min daytime show.
The Chase with Sara Haines- I used to watch her on The View but she don't cut it for me as a host. She's pretty bland and I see her picking up speed with reading. Something about our version of The chase isn't as exciting as the British and Australian versions.
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Jim Perry was great on Card Sharks and also I prefer Bill Raftery over Bob Eubanks. Bill had a great sense of humor didn't rush the contestants and show interest in the surveys.
I think Card Sharks works as a 30 min daytime show.
The Chase with Sara Haines- I used to watch her on The View but she don't cut it for me as a host. She's pretty bland and I see her picking up speed with reading. Something about our version of The chase isn't as exciting as the British and Australian versions.
. You mean Rafferty.
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Joel McHale is a meh kinda host but I just think the whole presentation of Card Sharks is off. And the worst part of it is I really can’t specify why.
I agree. You say you can't specify why, but could it be because you compare it to the original version? If you watch early episodes of Card Sharks from 1978, the game moved at a slower pace, which was common for the shows like this, Feud, etc. when they were new. When those shows found their groove, it was a different story. Compare a Jim Perry-hosted Card Sharks episode from the first few months to several months into the run and you get a much more fast-paced show. Jim kept the game running efficiently, prompted some long-winded contestants to speed up their answer, especially as time would run out, and flip those cards like a boss. So, yes, we did get spoiled by that version. The card reveals on the ABC version are drawn out too long and do not build up suspense and the survey questions just lack any enthusiasm from the players, and especially Joel. Yes, I agree with whoever said that Joel seems bored.
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If you watch early episodes of Card Sharks from 1978, the game moved at a slower pace, which was common for the shows like this, Feud, etc. when they were new. When those shows found their groove, it was a different story. Compare a Jim Perry-hosted Card Sharks episode from the first few months to several months into the run and you get a much more fast-paced show. Jim kept the game running efficiently, prompted some long-winded contestants to speed up their answer, especially as time would run out, and flip those cards like a boss. So, yes, we did get spoiled by that version.
THIS. The early episodes are tedious to watch. Over time, “I will go on and I will say the next card is higher/lower” got shortened to “Higher/Lower, Jim!”
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It’s frustratingly counter-intuitive how shows have slowed down at the same time the American attention span has shrunk.
They’re obviously not afraid to edit, so why don’t they to make things faster? In 1978, Match Game was editing “panel deliberations.” In 2021, Alec complains every question about how pokey the celebrities are, yet they don’t bother to fix it.
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THIS. The early episodes are tedious to watch. Over time, “I will go on and I will say the next card is higher/lower” got shortened to “Higher/Lower, Jim!”
I think that's just the case with any game show though. Card Sharks just happens to have lots of moving parts.