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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: DjohnsonCB on July 30, 2018, 03:14:01 PM
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http://myconnection.cox.com/article/trending/84d1d790-941d-11e8-9a6d-f184ab9f578c/
As far as a replacement host is concerned, my choice would be Ken Jennings.
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I wonder if Dan Patrick or Jeff Probst would be interested in ascending to the mothership? I could see either one, esp. Dan.
Always thought Bob Costas would be a good pick as well.
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For the record, the linked article states that Alex's own choice to replace him is sportscaster Alex Faust (never heard of him).
I wonder if Dan Patrick or Jeff Probst would be interested in ascending to the mothership? I could see either one, esp. Dan.
Dan Patrick I can see, but it seems highly unlikely to me that Jeff Probst would leave a hugely successful primetime show that tapes in beautiful locations around the world to stand at a podium in Los Angeles and read trivia questions.
As far as a replacement host is concerned, my choice would be Ken Jennings.
I personally would be fine with that, but this article gives a good case as to why a former contestant becoming the new host is unlikely - https://thejeopardyfan.com/2017/11/sorry-buzzy-cohen-ken-jennings-wont-next-host-jeopardy.html
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Ever since I first saw Pat Kiernan in action, I've thought he would be perfect for the job.
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I'd just let the show die.should have done that with TPIR, IMHO.
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I'd just let the show die.should have done that with TPIR, IMHO.
Except, TPiR was (and prolly still is) a Top 5 daytime show. Jeopardy! is still a Top 5 syndicated show. Both remain cultural phenomena and make a ton of money for their parent companies. They're not going anywhere anytime soon, nor should they.
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http://myconnection.cox.com/article/trending/84d1d790-941d-11e8-9a6d-f184ab9f578c/
As far as a replacement host is concerned, my choice would be Ken Jennings.
I'd be more willing to volunteer his "rival" Brad Rutter; he actually hosted a high school quiz show out in PA(?). Then again, there's another high school quiz show host/one time J! contestant I can think of, who as far as I know, is looking for a job. :P
Dan Patrick I can see, but it seems highly unlikely to me that Jeff Probst would leave a hugely successful primetime show that tapes in beautiful locations around the world to stand at a podium in Los Angeles and read trivia questions.
Agreed big time. I'm sure "Survivor" fills his plate enough as it is, and R&RJ! is probably but a distant memory in his mind. And maybe it's just me, but I don't even see him being a good fit for regular J!.
Except, TPiR was (and prolly still is) a Top 5 daytime show. Jeopardy! is still a Top 5 syndicated show. Both remain cultural phenomena and make a ton of money for their parent companies. They're going anywhere anytime soon, nor should they.
I'm sure you meant *not* going anywhere anytime soon? (Edit: Ok, he fixed it while I was editing in DoItRockapella's quote)
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Fixed.
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I'd just let the show die.should have done that with TPIR, IMHO.
And replace it with what? A talk show featuring four personalities with unique backgrounds and views?
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I'd just let the show die.should have done that with TPIR, IMHO.
Just logging this here for posterity in case Johnny has a case of buyers remorse.
/their backgrounds may be different but their views surely aren't.
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He may be talking retirement, but when you think about how many millions of dollars a year he gets for such little work, that seems awfully hard to pass up.
Why not keep doing that as long as he’s physically able to?
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I'd just let the show die.should have done that with TPIR, IMHO.
Just logging this here for posterity in case Johnny has a case of buyers remorse.
/their backgrounds may be different but their views surely aren't.
You seem to be obsessed with using my real name on here.
Ahem....Jeopardy is as synonymous with Alex as TPiR was with Bob Barker.
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You seem to be obsessed with using my real name on here.
Just noting who you are.
Ahem....Jeopardy is as synonymous with Alex as TPiR was with Bob Barker.
That is certainly true. For every host there are all of those people that you see in the credits whose livelihood depends on whether a show catches on or gets another renewal or a big enough station group has a punt the next year. It is easy to say "put it out to stud" when all you see is the people on the screen, but there is much more that you don't see, and bumping off a show takes away a job from those people.
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Ahem....Jeopardy is as synonymous with Alex as TPiR was with Bob Barker.
Which means what, exactly? Drew Carey enters his 12th season this fall. You say all this as if those two shows didn't have long-running hosts before Alex or Bob took over.
If a TV show stopped because its longtime host stepped down, there would be a whole lotta shows not airing now. TPiR, CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite, The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson...I could go on and on. A money-making show isn't going away just because its iconic host leaves.
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Ahem....Jeopardy is as synonymous with Alex as TPiR was with Bob Barker.
Which means what, exactly? Drew Carey enters his 12th season this fall. You say all this as if those two shows didn't have long-running hosts before Alex or Bob took over.
If a TV show stopped because its longtime host stepped down, there would be a whole lotta shows not airing now. TPiR, CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite, The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson...I could go on and on. A money-making show isn't going away just because its iconic host leaves.
I suspect that when Trebek & Sajak's tenure are over, Sony will not adjust the formats to accommodate the new hosts. They will choose hosts that will work within the existing formats.
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Ahem....Jeopardy is as synonymous with Alex Art Fleming as TPiR was with Bob Barker Bill Cullen.
Fixed that for you. Also made a point. Do you see it?
No, I didn't think so.
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Ahem....Jeopardy is as synonymous with Alex as TPiR was with Bob Barker.
Which means what, exactly? Drew Carey enters his 12th season this fall. You say all this as if those two shows didn't have long-running hosts before Alex or Bob took over.
If a TV show stopped because its longtime host stepped down, there would be a whole lotta shows not airing now. TPiR, CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite, The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson...I could go on and on. A money-making show isn't going away just because its iconic host leaves.
I suspect that when Trebek & Sajak's tenure are over, Sony will not adjust the formats to accommodate the new hosts. They will choose hosts that will work within the existing formats.
But where did the TPIR format really change? I know you have your gripes with Drew, but the meat and potatoes are still there. The show was on cruise control for a few years before Bob retired.
Wheel is feeling a little similar, so a refresher there could work IMO.
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Ahem....Jeopardy is as synonymous with Alex as TPiR was with Bob Barker.
Which means what, exactly? Drew Carey enters his 12th season this fall. You say all this as if those two shows didn't have long-running hosts before Alex or Bob took over.
If a TV show stopped because its longtime host stepped down, there would be a whole lotta shows not airing now. TPiR, CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite, The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson...I could go on and on. A money-making show isn't going away just because its iconic host leaves.
I suspect that when Trebek & Sajak's tenure are over, Sony will not adjust the formats to accommodate the new hosts. They will choose hosts that will work within the existing formats.
But where did the TPIR format really change? I know you have your gripes with Drew, but the meat and potatoes are still there. The show was on cruise control for a few years before Bob retired.
Wheel is feeling a little similar, so a refresher there could work IMO.
I would think that Bob purging most of what remained from the glory days - getting Kathleen/Janice/Paul Alter sacked and unpersoning a dying Rod Roddy - was what had me check out until Barker was gone. TPIR was more of a husk those last six years pre-Drew than it has ever been under Drew.
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Ahem....Jeopardy is as synonymous with Alex Art Fleming as TPiR was with Bob Barker Bill Cullen.
Fixed that for you. Also made a point. Do you see it?
No, I didn't think so.
J! I'll give you but Fleming didn't host it nearly as long as Trebek. TPiR w as a Contestant Row only format back then.
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I think what Matt is saying is that the shows didn't begin or end with Trebek or Barker, as you implied. It's okay to associate TPiR or J! with the long-running hosts, but life goes on and eventually you pass the torch.
Again, see my Tonight Show and CBS Evening News examples. People of a certain age will only associate them with Carson or Cronkite. Many more people realize that there are others like Leno, Fallon, Dan Rather, etc. who still make great hosts, and don't need to be compared to their predecessors.
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And now they're different. Perhaps with a new host Jeopardy will kick off with each contestant playing a thirty second sprint round. Or TPIR will have two players in a bidding war to determine who plays a pricing game and who goes back to his or her seat. Each show has survived a new host or new format therefore there is little reason to believe it cannot do so again.
/my compatriot Brandon F.G. beat me to the punch by mere seconds--his addition is well worth reading as well.
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Ahem....Jeopardy is as synonymous with Alex as TPiR was with Bob Barker.
Which means what, exactly? Drew Carey enters his 12th season this fall. You say all this as if those two shows didn't have long-running hosts before Alex or Bob took over.
If a TV show stopped because its longtime host stepped down, there would be a whole lotta shows not airing now. TPiR, CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite, The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson...I could go on and on. A money-making show isn't going away just because its iconic host leaves.
I suspect that when Trebek & Sajak's tenure are over, Sony will not adjust the formats to accommodate the new hosts. They will choose hosts that will work within the existing formats.
But where did the TPIR format really change? I know you have your gripes with Drew, but the meat and potatoes are still there. The show was on cruise control for a few years before Bob retired.
Wheel is feeling a little similar, so a refresher there could work IMO.
Wasn't there a quote by Mike Richards somewhere that basically said they had to work the show around Drew?
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Johnny Gilbert? Knows the show and has hosted network game shows.
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And now they're different. Perhaps with a new host Jeopardy will kick off with each contestant playing a thirty second sprint round. Or TPIR will have two players in a bidding war to determine who plays a pricing game and who goes back to his or her seat. Each show has survived a new host or new format therefore there is little reason to believe it cannot do so again.
/my compatriot Brandon F.G. beat me to the punch by mere seconds--his addition is well worth reading as well.
Can we make it sixty seconds. Then have the contestants pick categories and then choose a choice of three questions. And center the questions on current events?
Or in that case can we just reboot The Challengers and start anew? /s
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Johnny Gilbert? Knows the show and has hosted network game shows.
Everyone else can laugh at me and I'll accept it for taking the bait - but you can't be serious, can you?
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Johnny Gilbert? Knows the show and has hosted network game shows.
Everyone else can laugh at me and I'll accept it for taking the bait - but you can't be serious, can you?
I won't laugh. But yeah, I would disregard that one.
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I suspect that when Trebek & Sajak's tenure are over, Sony will not adjust the formats to accommodate the new hosts. They will choose hosts that will work within the existing formats.
But where did the TPIR format really change? I know you have your gripes with Drew, but the meat and potatoes are still there. The show was on cruise control for a few years before Bob retired.
Wasn't there a quote by Mike Richards somewhere that basically said they had to work the show around Drew?
The format, at least in the way that I would use the word, hasn't changed since they went to an hour. It's still four contestants picked from the audience participating in six one-bids for the right to play a pricing game, with a showcase showdown after each three and then the showcase. With the design of the show, what prizes they play for and what pricing games are played are intentionally varied. With the right line up of pricing games and a time machine, you could abduct Bob Barker from 1978, drop him at Studio 33 in 2018, and you wouldn't have to explain to him anything other than five-digit cars and that the cash bonuses and DSW threshold have increased (at least as far as gameplay is concerned; the models might be a different story.)
When I think of game show formats changing, I think more about things like Wheel eliminating shopping or Sale of the Century adding the speed round. The overall flow of the show changed at that point.
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Wasn't there a quote by Mike Richards somewhere that basically said they had to work the show around Drew?
My understanding (and I can't remember if I heard it here or from people who worked on the show at the time) was that the only real issue they had to "work around" was that it took time for Drew to get up to speed on how the various pricing games were played. So for a while, they weren't using nearly all of the games at their disposal. That's a far cry from changing the format of the show.
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Johnny Gilbert? Knows the show and has hosted network game shows.
Ok, I'm not going to ignore this one. You know he's 94 years old, right?
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Wasn't there a quote by Mike Richards somewhere that basically said they had to work the show around Drew?
My understanding (and I can't remember if I heard it here or from people who worked on the show at the time) was that the only real issue they had to "work around" was that it took time for Drew to get up to speed on how the various pricing games were played. So for a while, they weren't using nearly all of the games at their disposal. That's a far cry from changing the format of the show.
Point taken on the format, but I believe the quote Richards was referring to in working the show around him, was that they were adding elements (comedic and gimmick) to the show that weren't necessarily there before and removing others that had worked.
Example #1: I know in the beginning of his tenure, they added more cameras.
So instead of having the host fit in and integrate around the existing camera structure, they added more cameras to work around the host.
Example #2: Barker's Marker's being retired because apparently nobody wanted to tell Drew he made a mistake during gameplay.
So instead of correcting, game is retired
Example #3: Drew did an aisle entrance rehearsal in June 2008. After doing it, Drew had a look like he did something really dumb. It was either Roger or Syd that basically said "Well, that went well"
These items are minor and I'm sure there are others.
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So instead of having the host fit in and integrate around the existing camera structure, they added more cameras to work around the host.
He wasn't that fat, was he?
Presumably Jeff Probst would quit Survivor if he took the Jeopardy! job. His enthusiasm for it seems genuine, but spending a couple months of each year far from home in a jungle, no matter how nice the island and catering, might wear on a guy.
Brian Williams might be a consideration. He's witty and avuncular, and it's been said he likes the entertainment realm as much if not more than news. He wouldn't be in a position where his war stories would come up.
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It seems highly unlikely to me that Jeff Probst would leave a hugely successful primetime show that tapes in beautiful locations around the world to stand at a podium in Los Angeles and read trivia questions.
Presumably Jeff Probst would quit Survivor if he took the Jeopardy! job. His enthusiasm for it seems genuine, but spending a couple months of each year far from home in a jungle, no matter how nice the island and catering, might wear on a guy.
Opinions. Everybody's got one.
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Are we throwing names out? Anderson Cooper or Pat Kiernan.
These items are minor and I'm sure there are others.
Joker was sacked (Drew rehearsed it) and 1/2 Off was given the $1000 perfect pricing bonus because Drew didn't like someone winning nothing for pricing everything in a game correctly.
I think Give or Keep was slated to come back because of the free small items, win or lose.
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1/2 Off was given the $1000 perfect pricing bonus because Drew didn't like someone winning nothing
The beauty of the Price is Right format is that this is literally impossible; by virtue of being on stage to play the game in the first place, the contestant has won something, and further is going to have the opportunity to win something else (at the wheel and potentially at the Showcase), regardless of their performance in the game.
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1/2 Off was given the $1000 perfect pricing bonus because Drew didn't like someone winning nothing for pricing everything in a game correctly..
Originally, in the Drew era, the bonus was $500 for correctly guessing the 1/2 off price for each pair of SPs.
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1/2 Off was given the $1000 perfect pricing bonus because Drew didn't like someone winning nothing for pricing everything in a game correctly.
Secret X bugs me far more than 1/2 Off in this regard. With 1/2 Off, they firmly establish the premise that you're improving your odds. Secret X feels more like Bonus Game and Shell Game, except it's easier to lose.
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The beauty of the Price is Right format is that this is literally impossible; by virtue of being on stage to play the game in the first place, the contestant has won something, and further is going to have the opportunity to win something else (at the wheel and potentially at the Showcase), regardless of their performance in the game.
Plus the point that you win all the small items you priced correctly as well...so in a game like 1/2 Off you are walking away with around $400-500 worth of small items (6) before the bonus was added.
I'll even take it a step further. George calls your name as the last contestant, you bid $420 and lose, you still walk out with $300 now. And you lost.
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I thought I had made a brilliant left-field choice in case they wanted somebody under 50 who isn't Ken Jennings, but then I remembered that he's already hosted a game-ish show: Kal Penn.
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Dan Patrick is now saying he's not interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzZ_YjJ_1BQ
He also claims in the linked video that he was offered both TPIR and LMAD, and that Sports Jeopardy is likely to return at some point.
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Dan Patrick is now saying he's not interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzZ_YjJ_1BQ
He also claims in the linked video that he was offered both TPIR and LMAD, and that Sports Jeopardy is likely to return at some point.
Not to take this too far off-topic, but the rumor is that Dan may do some things in the near future with ESPN, including new episodes of Sports Jeopardy!.
Tyshaun
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Makes me wonder how many people were offered The Price is Right job before they went with Drew Carey?
The two people i could see hosting Jeopardy is Ryan Seacrest and Chris Harrison if they decide to ever cancel Millionaire.