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Title: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: cyclone45 on June 07, 2018, 03:29:04 AM
Price is obviously #1
Then Wheel, Jeopardy, Millionaire, Feud, what's #6?
Note: I said consecutive so years off wouldn't count...Sale, maybe? I could be answering my own question but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: Jimmy Owen on June 07, 2018, 06:59:38 AM
Probably "Concentration" or one of the panel shows.
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: Chief-O on June 07, 2018, 08:22:50 AM
Probably "Concentration" or one of the panel shows.

Quite sure it'd be Daly's "WML?" (around 17 years).
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: Matt Ottinger on June 07, 2018, 08:35:21 AM
Probably "Concentration" or one of the panel shows.

Quite sure it'd be Daly's "WML?" (around 17 years).

You're both right.  WML? if you count shows that only aired weekly, and Concentration for daily shows.

As far as daily shows go, after Concentration I think you have the original daytime runs of Hollywood Squares, Let's Make a Deal...and then Jeopardy again, this time the Fleming version.  However, the current version of Let's Make a Deal shows no sign of stopping, and in a few seasons will start eclipsing some of those silver-age runs.
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: Scrabbleship on June 07, 2018, 11:01:39 AM
Price is obviously #1
Then Wheel, Jeopardy, Millionaire, Feud, what's #6?
Note: I said consecutive so years off wouldn't count...Sale, maybe? I could be answering my own question but I could be wrong.

Would Millionaire be after Feud given the summer off it had between Regis and Meredith? That would put Feud as #4, WML? as #5, and (Syndie) Millionaire as #6?
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: Mr. Armadillo on June 07, 2018, 11:34:23 AM
If that doesn't count, then 80% of TV shows would lose their 'long-running' streaks every time they go into summer hiatus.
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: BrandonFG on June 07, 2018, 11:50:05 AM
Remember when 80s sitcoms like “Mama’s Family” got cancelled after a year or two, then had a longer run in syndication? That’s how I’d like to consider “Millionaire”, esp since it continued the immediate fall and not a couple years later. So, both it and “Feud” are closing in on two decades.
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: BillCullen1 on June 07, 2018, 03:44:20 PM
The current version of Feud will start its 20th season the Fall. The 9th with Steve Harvey as host, which is about as long as Dawson hosted the original version. The daily version of Millionaire started in 2002. If you add on the three years it was on ABC, then it ties with Feud, since they both started in the summer/fall of 1999.
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: cyclone45 on June 07, 2018, 11:55:29 PM
What's #6 though?
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: BrandonFG on June 08, 2018, 12:07:36 AM
What's #6 though?
Jimmy and Ian answered your question. If you want to go by years, it's What's My Line (17). If you want to go with episodes, it's Concentration (3,770). WML had 876.

It's up to you to decide which one you want to be #6.
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: PYLdude on June 08, 2018, 03:21:20 AM
I think based on his initial post, he's talking consecutive years and not episodes. And by consecutive years I mean all platforms, including syndication.

Which is why he ranks Price 1 and Wheel 2, with the difference of three years (72-75) separating the 2, and Jeopardy 3 although a distant third.

#4 by my count is WML?  as it was on in some form for 25 straight years  (1950-1975). #5 then is TTTT, which was on in some form for 22 years in first run.

Magic number six then has to be Concentration at 20 straight years. This will change in the fall.
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: cyclone45 on June 08, 2018, 10:11:09 AM
Summer reruns count, I'm just looking for the longest running game shows by consecutive seasons with summer breaks.
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: Chuck Sutton on June 08, 2018, 06:23:18 PM
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#4 by my count is WML?  as it was on in some form for 25 straight years  (1950-1975). #5 then is TTTT, which was on in some form for 22 years in first run.


Isn't the issue with What's My Line?  Although it aired in 1967 and 1968 it was off the entire  67-68 TV season.
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: PYLdude on June 09, 2018, 01:17:00 AM
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#4 by my count is WML?  as it was on in some form for 25 straight years  (1950-1975). #5 then is TTTT, which was on in some form for 22 years in first run.


Isn't the issue with What's My Line?  Although it aired in 1967 and 1968 it was off the entire  67-68 TV season.

Read what you just quoted again. I'm talking calendar years- which may or may not have been the intent of the OP now that I think about it, but I think you've gotta at least give the issue consideration because even though there was a gap between the last episode of the network WML and the first episode of the daily series, the show was on in some form in both 1967 and 1968. (Or not.)
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: thomas_meighan on June 09, 2018, 08:10:40 AM
I've sometimes thought about what constitutes a "continuous run" as it applies to game shows, and the rule I use for myself is that a show "resets" after 12 months or so of no new episodes.

So that means "Concentration" had a continuous run from 1958-78, in spite of changing production companies (which it actually did twice, come to think of it -- B&E to NBC in '58, NBC to G-T in '73). Likewise, "Truth or Consequences" from 1954-65 and "Pyramid" from 1973-81 would count as continuous runs in my book, since there was never a 12-month gap between new episodes.

The syndicated revivals of WML?, TTTT, et al. in the 1960s count as new runs because they went a year without new shows. Of course that leaves us with really borderline cases like "Battlestars", with 49 weeks separating the first and second versions, but that one isn't likely to make any longest-running lists!

(I also recognize that the syndicated "Truth or Consequences" debuted about 51 weeks after the network run ended, but I tend to count it as a separate run, given how close it is and the fact that not all markets necessarily starting running it on the same day.)
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: Jimmy Owen on June 09, 2018, 04:16:52 PM
The basic format of Hollywood Squares (ask the star a questio then agree or disagree)was used continuously between 1966 and 1988 first with Hollywood Squares through 1981 then  Battlestars in 81 and 82, then New Battlestrs in 83. Match game Hollywood squares hour from 83 to 84.. Allstar blitz in the 84 through 86 seasons, then Davidon Sqares starting in fall 86
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on June 09, 2018, 10:47:58 PM
Allstar blitz in the 84 through 86 seasons, then Davidon Sqares starting in fall 86
Blitz didn't come on until 1985.
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: PYLdude on June 09, 2018, 10:52:39 PM
Allstar blitz in the 84 through 86 seasons, then Davidon Sqares starting in fall 86
Blitz didn't come on until 1985.


And it ended before 1986.

Besides the point, Battlestars' format isn't the same because the celebrity is picking between answers as opposed to simply answering the question, no?
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: Jimmy Owen on June 10, 2018, 03:50:13 AM
Allstar blitz in the 84 through 86 seasons, then Davidon Sqares starting in fall 86
Blitz didn't come on until 1985.
Yes, but it was during the 84-85 and 85-86 TV Seasons.
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: PYLdude on June 10, 2018, 03:57:53 AM
Allstar blitz in the 84 through 86 seasons, then Davidon Sqares starting in fall 86
Blitz didn't come on until 1985.
Yes, but it was during the 84-85 and 85-86 TV Seasons.


Then there's still the little issue of selecting between two answers that Battlestars has.
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: Jimmy Owen on June 10, 2018, 09:43:49 AM
While not game shows in our estimation, shows like Survivor or Dancing with the Stars have been on for 18 years or so, but they are in their 30+ season.
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: WarioBarker on June 10, 2018, 04:57:49 PM
Price is obviously #1
Then Wheel, Jeopardy, Millionaire, Feud, what's #6?
Note: I said consecutive so years off wouldn't count...Sale, maybe? I could be answering my own question but I could be wrong.
If we're only counting US game shows, if I understand your criteria correctly I think the order is like this (not 100% sure, though):
* #1 is Washington D.C.'s It's Academic (57 seasons)
* #2 is Baltimore's It's Academic (47 seasons)
* #3 is Price (46 seasons)
* #4 is Wheel (35 seasons if only nighttime is counted, 43˝ if daytime is added in as well)
* #5 is Ohio's Academic Challenge (35 seasons)
* #6 is Jeopardy! (34 seasons)

If you're only wanting national shows, then I think it's like this (again, not 100% sure):
* #1 is Price
* #2 is Wheel
* #3 is Jeopardy!
* #s 4-6 depend on whether you consider the ABC and syndicated versions of Millionaire as one run. If so, it'd be
** Millionaire (19 seasons)
** Family Feud (19 seasons; debuted slightly later)
** What's My Line? (17˝ seasons)
** Otherwise, it'd be Feud-Line-Millionaire.
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: TimK2003 on June 10, 2018, 05:58:43 PM
How are you counting AC in Cleveland?   The show started as It's Academic before it became Academic Challenge, had a few years off around the turn of the century, and did one more full flip-flop between the IA/AC names before staying with Academic Challenge as it is now.  The formats were pretty much the same (except for the PYL-esque board they used to pick categories for a few years, but that was more glitter than formatics).

Just curious.
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: WarioBarker on June 10, 2018, 07:51:03 PM
How are you counting AC in Cleveland?
I was referring to the original series as a whole, which I admittedly should've made clear in the first place. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: That Don Guy on June 10, 2018, 08:12:23 PM
The basic format of Hollywood Squares (ask the star a questio then agree or disagree)was used continuously between 1966 and 1988 first with Hollywood Squares through 1981 then  Battlestars in 81 and 82, then New Battlestrs in 83. Match game Hollywood squares hour from 83 to 84.. Allstar blitz in the 84 through 86 seasons, then Davidon Sqares starting in fall 86
Define "continuously."  There was a full year gap between the two versions of Battlestars (and 13 weeks or so between the end of Battlestars and the start of MG/HS hour).

And if you're going by general format, how long has the "buzz in and respond to a question" format been on?  The current Jeopardy run started in 1984 (and none of this "they're responding to answers, not questions, so it doesn't count" please), and NBC's Sale of the Century overlaps it, starting in 1983.
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: cyclone45 on June 11, 2018, 12:47:16 AM
Price is obviously #1
Then Wheel, Jeopardy, Millionaire, Feud, what's #6?
Note: I said consecutive so years off wouldn't count...Sale, maybe? I could be answering my own question but I could be wrong.
If we're only counting US game shows, if I understand your criteria correctly I think the order is like this (not 100% sure, though):
* #1 is Washington D.C.'s It's Academic (57 seasons)
* #2 is Baltimore's It's Academic (47 seasons)
* #3 is Price (46 seasons)
* #4 is Wheel (35 seasons if only nighttime is counted, 43˝ if daytime is added in as well)
* #5 is Ohio's Academic Challenge (35 seasons)
* #6 is Jeopardy! (34 seasons)

If you're only wanting national shows, then I think it's like this (again, not 100% sure):
* #1 is Price
* #2 is Wheel
* #3 is Jeopardy!
* #s 4-6 depend on whether you consider the ABC and syndicated versions of Millionaire as one run. If so, it'd be
** Millionaire (19 seasons)
** Family Feud (19 seasons; debuted slightly later)
** What's My Line? (17˝ seasons)
** Otherwise, it'd be Feud-Line-Millionaire.

Thanks. That's what I was looking for.
Title: Re: Longest consecutive running game show, what's #6
Post by: TimK2003 on June 11, 2018, 11:23:35 AM
How are you counting AC in Cleveland?
I was referring to the original series as a whole, which I admittedly should've made clear in the first place. Sorry about that.

That makes sense.  Had they not been off the air for those few years in the early '00s, Cleveland's "It's Academic/Academic Challenge" would have been #2 behind the DC version with 53 seasons and counting.  IIRC, the reason for the gap was lack of sponsorship (Ohio Edison/Illuminating Company sponsored the bulk of the original 35 years, with the Ohio Lottery sponsoring the last few years of the original run -- then Westfield Insurance began sponsoring the reboot, not sure if they still do).