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Title: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: TimK2003 on November 17, 2017, 06:09:30 PM
Two primetime game shows premiere January -- one is Match Game (Weds 1/3) and one is a new show produced by Ricky Gervais and hosted by Fred Savage (Fri 1/5):

http://deadline.com/2017/11/abc-midseason-premiere-dates-tgit-ricky-gervais-child-support-match-game-1202209624/
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: BrandonFG on November 17, 2017, 06:22:56 PM
I wonder whether Daniel Stern is the announcer for Child Support?
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: aaron sica on November 17, 2017, 09:56:19 PM
I wonder whether Daniel Stern is the announcer for Child Support?

Maybe he provides some narration too.

"And as I stepped in front of the cameras for the first time hosting a game show......"
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: BillCullen1 on January 03, 2018, 01:21:44 PM
A reminder that MG returns tonight (1/3). They taped 15 episodes in October and I believe they have two eps from last season that have not aired.
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: calliaume on January 04, 2018, 09:42:31 PM
ABC will have a little more space in its prime time schedule, as The Mayor has just been dropped (http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/abc-cancels-the-mayor-1202654026/ (http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/abc-cancels-the-mayor-1202654026/)).  Great reviews for the pilot (although I remember watching it and thinking, "Eh"), but apparently it never built an audience.

Kevin (Probably) Saves the World is also iffy to continue.  Star Jason Ritter was on last night's MG episode, so hopefully he still has a show in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: Unrealtor on January 06, 2018, 12:16:54 AM
Kevin (Probably) Saves the World is also iffy to continue.  Star Jason Ritter was on last night's MG episode, so hopefully he still has a show in a few weeks.

The cynic in me wondered whether this episode was slotted as the season premiere just so that the references to "Kevin..." were still timely, although I think I remember that one of the other ABC game shows described one of the celebrity guests as being from a show that was no longer on the air by the time the episode actually aired. (Maybe TTTT season 1?)
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: clemon79 on January 06, 2018, 01:01:11 AM
I lasted two questions into We're Paying Ricky Gervais An Assload Of Money So We're Going To Make Damn Sure To Run All Of His Clips before I couldn't take any more and switched to Guy Fieri.

Read into that what you will.
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: alfonzos on January 06, 2018, 01:37:37 AM
Comment about the second player on the premiere episode:
He should have quit at the $100,000 level. My reasoning: the top prize is now $150,000. He is now betting 1:2 odds that he will give the correct response on his own. He keeps $100,000 if the kids save him.
 He loses it all if no one can answer the question. It odds were against him as was the possible payoff.
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: BrandonFG on January 06, 2018, 01:58:43 AM
Serious question...I haven't seen too many commercials, so is this supposed to be like a high stakes Child's Play meets Are You Smarter...?
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: clemon79 on January 06, 2018, 02:03:03 AM
Serious question...I haven't seen too many commercials, so is this supposed to be like a high stakes Child's Play meets Are You Smarter...?

No, it's straight-up Are You Smarter... with even less game to it, and the TPiR Bonus Game angle of "some questions actively matter less than others because because we know the kids get it right anyhow."
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: BrandonFG on January 06, 2018, 02:11:50 AM
Thank you. Now I see I didn't miss much and am not very inclined to check it out. :)
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: Kevin Prather on January 06, 2018, 02:21:20 AM
Comment about the second player on the premiere episode:
He should have quit at the $100,000 level.

He couldn't. He had to walk at $75,000 or commit to going all the way.
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: TLEberle on January 06, 2018, 03:32:09 AM
Thank you. Now I see I didn't miss much and am not very inclined to check it out. :)
It's nice that the money isn't stupidly enormous, but I managed to blip through in about five minutes and I think that was enough. Whoof.
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: clemon79 on January 06, 2018, 11:12:51 AM
Thank you. Now I see I didn't miss much and am not very inclined to check it out. :)

Just to spell it out in case someone else hasn't already: Ask question. Right answer moves you up the money ladder. Wrong answer eliminates you UNLESS the kids knew it (and again, that's all precanned) in which case you are "saved" but no ladder bump. Survive 12 questions and win wherever you made it to on the ladder. (Sounds like there are opportunities to bail along the way. Whee.) That's it.
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: That Don Guy on January 06, 2018, 12:45:52 PM
Thank you. Now I see I didn't miss much and am not very inclined to check it out. :)

Just to spell it out in case someone else hasn't already: Ask question. Right answer moves you up the money ladder. Wrong answer eliminates you UNLESS the kids knew it (and again, that's all precanned) in which case you are "saved" but no ladder bump. Survive 12 questions and win wherever you made it to on the ladder. (Sounds like there are opportunities to bail along the way. Whee.) That's it.

Pedantic mode: 10 questions.  Also, you can bail out only after questions 4 and 8.

And I have to wonder how closely standards & practices watches to make sure nobody involved in placing the questions on the ladder knows whether or not the kids got the question right.  At least on AYSTAFG, the kids have to answer the questions as they are asked to the contestant.
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: clemon79 on January 06, 2018, 12:50:25 PM
Pedantic mode: 10 questions.

Mea culpa. Also, props for not calling out the utter chrome of "taking the top dollar amount off the board".

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And I have to wonder how closely standards & practices watches to make sure nobody involved in placing the questions on the ladder knows whether or not the kids got the question right.

Why would S&P care? The production is free to stack the questions however they want.
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: BrandonFG on January 06, 2018, 12:55:18 PM
Just to spell it out in case someone else hasn't already: Ask question. Right answer moves you up the money ladder. Wrong answer eliminates you UNLESS the kids knew it (and again, that's all precanned) in which case you are "saved" but no ladder bump. Survive 12 questions and win wherever you made it to on the ladder. (Sounds like there are opportunities to bail along the way. Whee.) That's it.
Oh boy...where have I seen that before??? Thanks again.

My kingdom for a producer who can give us a new trivia game (not counting revivals) that doesn't involve a money ladder and bailouts.

/Dusts off drawing board
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: MSTieScott on January 06, 2018, 02:29:08 PM
I lasted two questions into We're Paying Ricky Gervais An Assload Of Money So We're Going To Make Damn Sure To Run All Of His Clips before I couldn't take any more and switched to Guy Fieri.

Once the second contestant started his game, I fast-forwarded past any clips of the children that followed a contestant's correct answer. The show was more pleasant to watch that way.
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: Fedya on January 06, 2018, 03:17:55 PM
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My kingdom for a producer who can give us a new trivia game (not counting revivals) that doesn't involve a money ladder and bailouts.

Million Dollar Mind Game was a wheel, not a ladder, thank you very much.

/sarcasm
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: jjman920 on January 06, 2018, 04:23:53 PM
I feel like while some of the kids were funny, most of the segments were just, there. Though, I did find "Pokemon" as a response to Scotland's mythical national animal to be pretty funny.

I thought it was weird to have one question feature a completely different set of kids than the rest. I don't think we saw that other set of kids any other time, unless I'm misremembering.

Honestly, I'd rather just watch AYSTAFG reruns or get a Child's Play revival. Yet, I can probably see myself watching this again because I'm a glutton for punishment.

My kingdom for a producer who can give us a new trivia game (not counting revivals) that doesn't involve a money ladder and bailouts.
But, without a money ladder, they can't get DeWalt as an easy sponsor.
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: DoItRockapella on January 06, 2018, 08:48:38 PM
I thought it was weird to have one question feature a completely different set of kids than the rest. I don't think we saw that other set of kids any other time, unless I'm misremembering.

Honestly, they went through so many kids I gave up trying to keep track. I would say it would make more sense to have the same set of kids for a contestant's entire game, but again, that show already exists and it's called "Are You Smarter Than A Fifth Grader?"

My kingdom for a producer who can give us a new trivia game (not counting revivals) that doesn't involve a money ladder and bailouts.

OK, I'll take the bait..."500 Questions"? Were there bailouts there that I had forgotten about?
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: colonial on January 06, 2018, 10:10:04 PM
I don't recall any bailouts on "500 Questions". It was either lose my missing three in a row or "win" by completing 500 questions.

Agree with the peanut gallery that "Child Support" was dreadful. Nothing more than "5th Grader" meets "Kids Say the Darndest Things". Ricky Gervais came off as someone hosting a focus group (zero chemistry with the kids), and Fred Savage was very by-the-numbers.
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: Unrealtor on January 07, 2018, 01:54:23 PM
My kingdom for a producer who can give us a new trivia game (not counting revivals) that doesn't involve a money ladder and bailouts.

OK, I'll take the bait..."500 Questions"? Were there bailouts there that I had forgotten about?

Also "The Wall." No ladder, no options to bail.

Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: BrandonFG on January 07, 2018, 02:40:44 PM
I did forget 500 Questions. Good call.
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: tvwxman on January 07, 2018, 07:32:05 PM
And I have to wonder how closely standards & practices watches to make sure nobody involved in placing the questions on the ladder knows whether or not the kids got the question right.  At least on AYSTAFG, the kids have to answer the questions as they are asked to the contestant.

I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I thought the same thing. Especially since it wasn't the same kids every question. What's to stop the producers from putting a question the kids punted on up top? What if one of the groups got it and two didn't?

I'm not saying this happened, Im just saying we (me and the missus) commented on that early on....and that makes this show......a little questionable.
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: clemon79 on January 07, 2018, 07:57:17 PM
What's to stop the producers from putting a question the kids punted on up top? What if one of the groups got it and two didn't?

I'm not saying this happened

I'll bet you the beverage of your choice that it does happen, and that the stacks are built with this in mind; that there be X number of free passes along the way.

Did they get to the top of a stack? Who's to say the final question isn't a must-answer-right by rule?
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: Kevin Prather on January 08, 2018, 05:10:44 PM
Did they get to the top of a stack? Who's to say the final question isn't a must-answer-right by rule?

In the first episode, a player was saved on the final question, resulting in a default win.
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: JasonA1 on January 08, 2018, 05:23:04 PM
Did they get to the top of a stack? Who's to say the final question isn't a must-answer-right by rule?

In the first episode, a player was saved on the final question, resulting in a default win.

I believe Chris is talking about the ultimate final question in a stack, not the last question a contestant plays.

-Jason
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: MSTieScott on January 08, 2018, 05:26:41 PM
Did they get to the top of a stack? Who's to say the final question isn't a must-answer-right by rule?

In the first episode, a player was saved on the final question, resulting in a default win.

I believe Chris is talking about the ultimate final question in a stack, not the last question a contestant plays.

That's what Kevin was referring to. It sort of took me by surprise.

The kids were also correct on the second-to-last question, so it was impossible for the contestant to finish with $0 once he successfully answered question 8.
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: clemon79 on January 08, 2018, 06:22:31 PM
I believe Chris is talking about the ultimate final question in a stack, not the last question a contestant plays.

I mean Question 10, yeah, which it sounds like Kevin is saying was actually set up as a save on the premiere. Which is completely stupid, and yet somehow unsurprising.
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: BillCullen1 on January 10, 2018, 12:32:29 PM
Agree with the peanut gallery that "Child Support" was dreadful. Nothing more than "5th Grader" meets "Kids Say the Darndest Things". Ricky Gervais came off as someone hosting a focus group (zero chemistry with the kids), and Fred Savage was very by-the-numbers. 

Given that this is Fred's first game hosting gig, I'll cut him some slack and give him a chance to grow into the role. I do think Fred was a better choice for hosting the main game than Ricky. Ricky is better in small doses.
Title: Re: Match Game Season 3 & Fred Savage Hosts New GS...
Post by: TLEberle on January 10, 2018, 02:47:01 PM
They should have Rob Lowe come in and host while Fred Savage is pushed to the sideline moping about it.