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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: WarioBarker on October 13, 2017, 01:00:32 PM
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http://www.fremantlemedia.com/fremantlemedia-goes-wild-in-the-aisles-with-supermarket-sweep/
Just announced today. Fremantle has gotten the worldwide format rights, and will be offering a new version of the show at MIPCOM (which starts in just a few days).
The press release also includes a statement by Al Howard's son Henry, who is "look[ing] forward to working with [Fremantle's] talented teams around the world."
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Let me beat everyone to the punch here, how long until GSN (or BUZZR) starts airing the reruns of the David Rupruchet shows?
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Buzzr should have forty episodes transferred to digital and ready to go by 20X6.
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Of course, they'll rerun them over and over like what happened on Lifetime back in the 1990s (should Buzzr or GSN air them) ;D.
Brian
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It's Bill Malone or nothing for me :)
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New today from Eater, "A Journey Through the Many Worlds of ‘Supermarket Sweep’"
https://www.eater.com/2017/10/23/16500150/international-supermarket-sweep
... If you could put only one thing in a time capsule from the ’90s to show what America was like back then, a box of recorded episodes on videotapes — replete with perms and economic sunniness predicated on a shoddy premise — would do the trick. It is beloved by many, hated by more. A 1992 New York magazine review of a TV production of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead concluded, “Still, even mediocre Stoppard on TV is superior to Supermarket Sweep.”
... Like many other popular game shows, it was repackaged and resold internationally, creating Supermarket Sweep clones that aired on nearly every continent. There was an Australian one. In Vietnam, there was Sięu Thị May Mắn. Ukraine and Greece had their own Supermarket Sweeps. Altogether, at least 12 countries produced versions of the show. They are now available for your viewing pleasure on YouTube, thanks to loyal fans who recorded the show during its golden age of exportation and its years of subsequent syndication.
... The commercials for upcoming episodes of Clink Caja in Argentina feature laser guns. Watching Supermarket Sweep in a language you don’t understand helps boil the show down to its essence. We are watching people shop for 20 minutes while sports commentary plays, and we are riveted.
Contains several videos of international versions.
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If Funny You Should Ask tanks, the door could be opened for a US reboot of Supermarket Sweep in syndication in 2018, with a host that should have the same enthusiasm as David Ruprecht.
And how would I do it? Teams will start with a base time of 2:00; the Mini-Sweep should be $150; and in the Big Sweep itself:
Shopping List — $250
Bonus specials ranging from $250 to $500
Manager’s Special — $250
One pound of coffee or bulk candy — $250
(And so on; I know other bonuses will increase their value)
And the Bonus Sweep will now be for $10,000! Also, unlike the last version, the other two teams will keep their Sweep winnings in cash.
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If Funny You Should Ask tanks, the door could be opened for a US reboot of Supermarket Sweep in syndication in 2018, with a host that should have the same enthusiasm as David Ruprecht.
1. Byron Allen shows don't "tank", they just live in syndication hell. But his business model allows his shows to air for several seasons.
2. Why would it have to be a replacement? You do realize more than one game show can air in syndication, right?
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And the Bonus Sweep will now be for $10,000! Also, unlike the last version, the other two teams will keep their Sweep winnings in cash.
Why was it necessary for you to bold $10,000?
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If Funny You Should Ask tanks, the door could be opened for a US reboot of Supermarket Sweep in syndication in 2018, with a host that should have the same enthusiasm as David Ruprecht.
1. Byron Allen shows don't "tank", they just live in syndication hell. But his business model allows his shows to air for several seasons.
I was wondering how to say that. You said it perfectly. "Syndication hell." Ha. They also live on perpetually on one of Byron Allen's seven cable channels.
And why did Johnny put an exclamation point after $10,000? Is the top prize 10,000 factorial in dollars? Holy budgetary issues, Batman!
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If Funny You Should Ask tanks, the door could be opened for a US reboot of Supermarket Sweep in syndication in 2018, with a host that should have the same enthusiasm as David Ruprecht.
1. Byron Allen shows don't "tank", they just live in syndication hell. But his business model allows his shows to air for several seasons.
I was wondering how to say that. You said it perfectly. "Syndication hell." Ha. They also live on perpetually on one of Byron Allen's seven cable channels.
I forgot about his cable channels. This show isn't going anywhere anytime soon (that's a good thing).
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I was wondering how to say that. You said it perfectly. "Syndication hell." Ha. They also live on perpetually on one of Byron Allen's seven cable channels.
Hey, why not make an 8th and call it BOLDEXCLAMATIONPOINT.tv!!!!!!!!!!!11 and then put Supermarket Sweep there. Then Johnny won't know what to do with himself!!
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My only two points: Let both partners run the Big Sweep; let them tag in and out and shorten up the preliminary rounds to accommodate this. Also, ten grand split two ways doesn't cut it for me as a grand prize unless they want just teams in the thirty mile zone to try out.
/also, I like that laser gun idea.
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My only two points: Let both partners run the Big Sweep; let them tag in and out and shorten up the preliminary rounds to accommodate this.
Why would you need to shorten the preliminary rounds? Simply let the other team member take off when their partner crosses the red line with their cart.
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My only two points: Let both partners run the Big Sweep; let them tag in and out and shorten up the preliminary rounds to accommodate this.
Why would you need to shorten the preliminary rounds? Simply let the other team member take off when their partner crosses the red line with their cart.
1) I don't think that two minutes is enough time for each person to have a go, and 2) I find the Big Sweep to be far more interesting than the question rounds. If they were to give each team three or four minutes and play a speed round for bonus cash instead of seconds I would be on board with that.
Also 3) that I thought of later--it keeps the sweep closer and more exciting to have everyone start with equal time than one team with 2:50 and another with 1:40.
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If Funny You Should Ask tanks, the door could be opened for a US reboot of Supermarket Sweep in syndication in 2018, with a host that should have the same enthusiasm as David Ruprecht.
I just caught this. Here's a bold idea: why not just bring back David himself?
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If Funny You Should Ask tanks, the door could be opened for a US reboot of Supermarket Sweep in syndication in 2018, with a host that should have the same enthusiasm as David Ruprecht.
I just caught this. Here's a bold idea: why not just bring back David himself?
This. It seems like he's got the same love for the show that he's always had, and with all the respect in the world to him, I can't imagine him coming with a huge price tag.
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I don't think he was ever a big ticket guy, not that Sweep was ever done on a shoestring anyway. I do want to run one idea up the flagpole that I was reminded of when Jonathan listed off all of the bonuses: I don't really care for them. The inflatable bonuses are there to sort of randomize the final totals, and the coffee-candy-Manager's Special are just trading shopping time for money (or perhaps no money). The bonuses I liked were the Shopping List (because it rewarded knowing where stuff was) and the $300 Movie: only the first person to find it got it. What I'd do is to combine the two: each of three stations would tender a clue to a product, and whoever can grab the marked product would win some cash amount. It got to the point where some teams piled up $750 in bonus money before tallying their groceries and I think that's a little silly.
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I never liked the inflatable bonuses, the movie, or the bad guy who chased you off of an aisle. I used to joke that they would have a 'find your lost child' bonus where you had to dig through a bin of dolls in the kids zone (remember when that was a 90's thing at the grocery store?) to find the one that was wearing your matching sweater.
I will be disappointed if the sweaters don't return.
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What I'd do is to combine the two: each of three stations would tender a clue to a product, and whoever can grab the marked product would win some cash amount.
My first thought was "they already had that" so I checked wikipedia and learned that a) the bonus with the three monitors was also used for The $300 Movie and b) there were a lotmore bonuses than I could recall. I think you have to keep the inflatables because that's the most iconic thing and maybe one other as permanent bonuses, but pick one or two out of a rotation to go with them and you should be fine.
My production-related question is how available is the set they use for Guy's Grocery Games?
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Part of me could see a network being ageist in the idea of bringing back David since he's nearing 70. Which would be foolish anyway since Pat and Alex still have their jobs and this isn't a strenuous host job.
However, I thought that if a network decides to go with a younger host it'd be cool to have David appear as the "manager" of the supermarket who is retiring and giving the keys to the market to the new host. Put his name on one of the bonuses to make it seem like you're still getting them for David who is at home.
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He's roughly the same age Regis Philbin was when Millionaire came out, although Reege was obviously a much higher profile name.
I mean...I doubt people would recognize the name David Ruprecht, as opposed to seeing his face. So, while they could get away with a younger face, something about not hiring David would seem so wrong.
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I don't think he was ever a big ticket guy, not that Sweep was ever done on a shoestring anyway. I do want to run one idea up the flagpole that I was reminded of when Jonathan listed off all of the bonuses: I don't really care for them. The inflatable bonuses are there to sort of randomize the final totals, and the coffee-candy-Manager's Special are just trading shopping time for money (or perhaps no money). The bonuses I liked were the Shopping List (because it rewarded knowing where stuff was) and the $300 Movie: only the first person to find it got it. What I'd do is to combine the two: each of three stations would tender a clue to a product, and whoever can grab the marked product would win some cash amount. It got to the point where some teams piled up $750 in bonus money before tallying their groceries and I think that's a little silly.
I second everything quoted, but I'd have one inflatable bonus ($100?) in addition to the skill bonuses.
I want to say there were three inflatables, a "manager's choice", the monitors, AND the bread/coffee/candy thing on every sweep towards the end. Absolutely plausible that if you were the first out and could nick everything, you could win without shopping.
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I second everything quoted, but I'd have one inflatable bonus ($100?) in addition to the skill bonuses.
I want to say there were three inflatables, a "manager's choice", the monitors, AND the bread/coffee/candy thing on every sweep towards the end. Absolutely plausible that if you were the first out and could nick everything, you could win without shopping.
There what one episode where a runner managed to pile up $700 in bonus money but knocked over a bunch of stuff and the fines reduced that total by some amount.
The thing about the bonuses--at least for the coffee and candy--is that they're not shopping, they're watching a person standing there waiting. The Sweep Swipe had movement, and the Manager's Special could be frenetic as well. I agree that you want the inflatables and one or two bonuses (and sure, have a stack of them to rotate in and out) but not a whole bunch. On the other hand there were some very early episodes with just the mystery bonuses and totals between $500-$750, so I can see the desire to introduce more money into it.
As long as you have people running around and enjoying themselves, it doesn't matter how much the candy counter is worth or whether the mini-sweep pays $50, $150 or $222.22, having the fundamentals in place means that those little things will fall into place.
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I want to say there were three inflatables, a "manager's choice", the monitors, AND the bread/coffee/candy thing on every sweep towards the end. Absolutely plausible that if you were the first out and could nick everything, you could win without shopping.
I suspect some of this was product placement, such as the large box of Cheer detergent that had money tags on it. Same with the Cracker Jack thing. Just a way of integrating a plug into the game rather than a 10 second spiel at the end of the show.
I seem to recall an episode where someone tried the "all bonuses" strategy, but blew it because they wasted 30 seconds at the coffee machine and didn't grind all the beans. IMO, leaving the possibility of differing strategies makes the game more interesting.
With that said, I never understood why people wasted their time on the coffee or the candy--you could easily scoop up $100 in products in 10 seconds.
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With that said, I never understood why people wasted their time on the coffee or the candy--you could easily scoop up $100 in products in 10 seconds.
Agreed on the candy. However, the placement of the coffee grinder only required one hand to operate, and its placement allowed you to use your free hand to shop.
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I want to say there were three inflatables, a "manager's choice", the monitors, AND the bread/coffee/candy thing on every sweep towards the end. Absolutely plausible that if you were the first out and could nick everything, you could win without shopping.
I do recall some episodes near the end where there were six bonuses. There were even times where David wouldn’t explain the monitor bonus, but they were still active.
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With that said, I never understood why people wasted their time on the coffee or the candy--you could easily scoop up $100 in products in 10 seconds.
Agreed on the candy. However, the placement of the coffee grinder only required one hand to operate, and its placement allowed you to use your free hand to shop.
Another potentially hidden benefit is that in those 10-15 seconds at the grinder you're also able to catch your breath a little
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Is grinding your own coffee at the grocery store still a common practice? I don't drink coffee, so I don't spend a lot of time in that aisle, but I can't remember ever seeing or hearing a grinder at any of the stores I frequent.
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I see it at all of the grocery stores near me, and we're ground zero for Starbucks.
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A lot of them still do it, but not all of them.
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Is grinding your own coffee at the grocery store still a common practice? I don't drink coffee, so I don't spend a lot of time in that aisle, but I can't remember ever seeing or hearing a grinder at any of the stores I frequent.
Absolutely. Both my usual groceries and Costco sell whole beans and not everyone (myself included) has a decent grinder, so I grind it on the spot there before I check out. (OK, in Costco's case, after.)
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Coffee grinders at some stores nowadays have been replaced by rows of Keurig K-Cups.
Two other bonuses that also ate up a lot of Sweep time that I remember were the cake decorating one ($100), and Super Sandwich ($200).
Since we can rule out syndication for a Supermarket Sweep reboot sometime in 2018...I can’t see it returning to its original home on ABC as part of their “Summer Fun & Games” lineup, because it must involve a celebrity. Maybe Amazon Prime (since the reruns will be streaming there soon), with new episodes thrice weekly.
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ABC brought back Battlebots. There wasn't very much celebrity involvement there.
And why can't it make its way to syndication next year? How do we know Fremantle isn't working on a pilot for NATPE as we speak?
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Is grinding your own coffee at the grocery store still a common practice? I don't drink coffee, so I don't spend a lot of time in that aisle, but I can't remember ever seeing or hearing a grinder at any of the stores I frequent.
The store I shop at has two, one labeled "flavored coffee only" and another labeled "unflavored coffee only." I can't say I've ever seen anybody actually use either of them, though.
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Since we can rule out syndication for a Supermarket Sweep reboot sometime in 2018...I can’t see it returning to its original home on ABC as part of their “Summer Fun & Games” lineup, because it must involve a celebrity. Maybe Amazon Prime (since the reruns will be streaming there soon), with new episodes thrice weekly.
Why can't it be ruled out for syndication? Oh wait, because you said so, and you know everything. How could I forget?
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Is grinding your own coffee at the grocery store still a common practice? I don't drink coffee, so I don't spend a lot of time in that aisle, but I can't remember ever seeing or hearing a grinder at any of the stores I frequent.
The store I shop at has two, one labeled "flavored coffee only" and another labeled "unflavored coffee only." I can't say I've ever seen anybody actually use either of them, though.
That's...weird.
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Since we can rule out syndication for a Supermarket Sweep reboot sometime in 2018...
Seriously, where are you getting these ideas? Nobody has ruled it out for syndication except for you. Just like nobody said Sweep would only be considered if Funny You Should Ask tanks. I'm not sure why you think syndication is a mutually exclusive deal when it comes to new game shows, that one has to be sacrificed for a new premiere, but that's not how it works. With as many channels and subchannels as we have today, I don't think you have to worry about a crowded marketplace the way you did 10 or 20 years ago.
As for coffee grinders, I might not be looking, but I don't think I've seen a machine in my local grocery store since the early-2000s. I may have to check next time I go shopping...I'm intrigued. :)
/Wawa or 7-11 coffee FTW
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All of the local Krogers have grinders. I typically grind my own, but I do enjoy some of the holiday blends this time of the year.
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I typically grind my own
<giggle>
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The store I shop at has two, one labeled "flavored coffee only" and another labeled "unflavored coffee only."
Unflavored coffee? Wouldn't that just be... hot water?
(Yes, I know what they're actually going for.)
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Unflavored coffee? Wouldn't that just be... hot water?
Hey, that's a specialty in Hooterville.
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I typically grind my own
<giggle>
If we coordinate our trips to Hammettville, I can grind some for you too!
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If we coordinate our trips to Hammettville, I can grind some for you too!
Good night, everybody.
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Okay...so a reboot of Supermarket Sweep would do alright in syndication; maybe Craig Ferguson could come on board as host and probably producer (I’m sure he has some ideas for a bonus).
/The Canadian version never had a coffee bonus; the teams were more interested in that trip to Cuba (or a stereo system) among the bonus prizes
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Okay...so a reboot of Supermarket Sweep would do alright in syndication; maybe Craig Ferguson could come on board as host and probably producer (I’m sure he has some ideas for a bonus).
!?!???
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Yeah, I'm All-Star Baffled by that one too.
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Haggis for a Hundred. It's so obvious, guys. And the announcer will be Geoff Peterson.
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Okay, so Craig Ferguson would be a bad idea for host, but notables that come to mind are:
John O’Hurley
Todd Newton
Richard Karn
Mark L. Walberg
Pat Finn
By the way...when I asked that question on Facebook, other suggestions were Guy Fieri, Bobby Flay, and the aforementioned Newton and Karn.
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How about we just let this pan out to whatever it's going to pan out to? Baseless speculation only leads to waste.
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It could be me reading too much into things, but there's now a Supermarket Sweep Twitter page (https://twitter.com/supermarktsweep). It only has three posts, but I do wonder if they're preparing for a new run in 2018?
Who knows, it could be a fan-run page, for all I know...
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How about we just let this pan out to whatever it's going to pan out to? Baseless speculation only leads to waste.
I think there's a difference between "here's what I would do if in charge of a reboot" and "here are some host ideas in lieu of Craig Ferguson." Given that Sweep is all about camp and silliness I don't think he'd be horrible, but there's a list of people I'd put ahead of him.
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It could be me reading too much into things, but there's now a Supermarket Sweep Twitter page (https://twitter.com/supermarktsweep). It only has three posts, but I do wonder if they're preparing for a new run in 2018?
Who knows, it could be a fan-run page, for all I know...
I can't speak for anyone else, but I for one can't help but question it being "fan-run" if the Bonus Sweep video they posted is in master quality.
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It could be me reading too much into things, but there's now a Supermarket Sweep Twitter page (https://twitter.com/supermarktsweep). It only has three posts, but I do wonder if they're preparing for a new run in 2018?
Who knows, it could be a fan-run page, for all I know...
I can't speak for anyone else, but I for one can't help but question it being "fan-run" if the Bonus Sweep video they posted is in master quality.
There's also a FB page and it seems that they posted an entire episode in parts over the last three weeks. All in what seems to be master. So, I'd be more inclined to think it's official even if it doesn't seem like it.
Guess they want to give the show a social media presence ahead of the reruns and perhaps more that could be down the line. Smart idea, I've already followed both pages.
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Richard Karn
Just... No.
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Richard Karn
Just... No.
And not Pat Neely; after Save To Win, he should never host another game show ever again for the rest of his life!
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Richard Karn
Just... No.
And not Pat Neely; after Save To Win, he should never host another game show ever again for the rest of his life!
1. Who is suggesting Pat Neely? Or any of the other random names you keep throwing out there? Yes, he hams it up, but I think you're overreacting*.
2. Save to Win is no more than it sets out to be, a cheesy shopping game show. Just because it lacks Supermarket Sweep's charm doesn't make it horrible. I've seen worse...way worse.
3. Please just wait for Fremantle to announce an official revival before you keep suggesting every person who has hosted a game show in the last 15 years.
*/Honestly, now I kinda hope he gets to audition. :P
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Save to Win is no more than it sets out to be, a cheesy shopping game show.
I'm pretty sure that shopping game shows tend to have pricing involved, though, which Save to Win didn't (and you kinda need it if you're gonna have your host open each episode with "Welcome to the show where smart shopping leads to money in your pocket.").
And not Pat Neely; after Save To Win, he should never host another game show ever again for the rest of his life!
Personally, I think he was held back by the format and the sometimes-pretty-obvious editing (particularly the contestant interviews).
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I dunno...I just think you're expecting a lot from a CW game show that was an unapologetic product placement effort for Family Dollar. :P It was never going to be Emmy award television.
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Personally, I think he was held back by the format and the sometimes-pretty-obvious editing (particularly the contestant interviews).
I think he was held back by the fact that he was a farking "celebrity" chef and only barely had any sort of grounding in TV presenting, much less a game show.
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What's a Pat Neely? Sounds like Johnny's showing off again.
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What's a Pat Neely? Sounds like Johnny's showing off again.
Neely is a barbecue chef who became a "celebrity" by virtue of Food Network giving he and his then-wife a show.
And yes, Johnny is. He tends to sploosh when his pop cultures cross over.
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Don't get your streams crossed.