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Title: Finally airing in Cincinnati - we can all rest.
Post by: toddyo on November 02, 2015, 12:18:26 PM
AntennaTV was pulled and Buzzr has been added to the Cincinnati channel spectrum. AntennaTV will return to a different broadcast prior to the Jan 1st Tonight Show repeats. We all can now rest.
Title: Re: Finally airing in Cincinnati - we can all rest.
Post by: Matt Ottinger on November 02, 2015, 12:36:41 PM
AntennaTV was pulled and Buzzr has been added to the Cincinnati channel spectrum. AntennaTV will return to a different broadcast prior to the Jan 1st Tonight Show repeats. We all can now rest.

Our long, geographically specific Midwestern nightmare is over.
Title: Re: Finally airing in Cincinnati - we can all rest.
Post by: Mr. Matté on November 02, 2015, 03:46:40 PM
What about Phoenix? (http://www.gameshowforum.org/index.php/topic,27398.msg340063.html#msg340063)
Title: Re: Finally airing in Cincinnati - we can all rest.
Post by: PYLdude on November 02, 2015, 07:22:19 PM
Phoenix actually got it recently. Twas noted and commented on by me.

Although dropping Antenna for Buzzr is not an equal trade.
Title: Re: Finally airing in Cincinnati - we can all rest.
Post by: Matt Ottinger on November 02, 2015, 11:04:26 PM
Although dropping Antenna for Buzzr is not an equal trade.

I agree, but he did say that AntennaTV was coming back on a different provider.
Title: Re: Finally airing in Cincinnati - we can all rest.
Post by: PYLdude on November 03, 2015, 06:06:08 AM
Although dropping Antenna for Buzzr is not an equal trade.

I agree, but he did say that AntennaTV was coming back on a different provider.

That he did, but.I shall still scratch my head.

Personally I prefer MeTV, but Antenna still is cool.
Title: Re: Finally airing in Cincinnati - we can all rest.
Post by: clemon79 on November 03, 2015, 12:55:59 PM
That he did, but.I shall still scratch my head.

You are scratching your head over the business decision of dropping one digital subchannel in favor of another one? I just want to make sure I am following.
Title: Re: Finally airing in Cincinnati - we can all rest.
Post by: PYLdude on November 03, 2015, 03:02:32 PM
That he did, but.I shall still scratch my head.

You are scratching your head over the business decision of dropping one digital subchannel in favor of another one? I just want to make sure I am following.

Only because of what the value of the tradeoff is to me, nothing more, nothing less. The station certainly can do whatever it wants.
Title: Re: Finally airing in Cincinnati - we can all rest.
Post by: BrandonFG on November 03, 2015, 04:25:23 PM
That's not the first station I've heard of dropping Antenna TV. Out of all the subchannels, they by far have the worst selection of commercials. A lot of medical settlements and infomercial-type stuff. The most "high profile" advertiser I see is Liberty Mutual.

I dunno how much advertiser money goes to the affiliates themselves, but I do wonder if that is part of the reason some stations are jumping ship.
Title: Re: Finally airing in Cincinnati - we can all rest.
Post by: snowpeck on November 03, 2015, 04:37:19 PM
That's not the first station I've heard of dropping Antenna TV. Out of all the subchannels, they by far have the worst selection of commercials. A lot of medical settlements and infomercial-type stuff. The most "high profile" advertiser I see is Liberty Mutual.

I dunno how much advertiser money goes to the affiliates themselves, but I do wonder if that is part of the reason some stations are jumping ship.
Many of the subchannels these days, in lieu of sharing ad dollars, actually pay affiliates to carry them, essentially renting the channel space from them. Some likely pay more than others, so that's a factor in choosing which ones to carry.
Title: Re: Finally airing in Cincinnati - we can all rest.
Post by: clemon79 on November 03, 2015, 05:17:35 PM
Only because of what the value of the tradeoff is to me, nothing more, nothing less. The station certainly can do whatever it wants.

Right. My point is that the value to you (as a consumer of their product) and the value to them (and that's the value that matters) are based on absolutely wholly different criteria. So I don't see what's so head-scratching about it.

It's not so far afield from me saying "I'm cutting back on my cable because it costs me too much" and you saying "Really? I'm confused. Their logo is red and red things are awesome."
Title: Re: Finally airing in Cincinnati - we can all rest.
Post by: Matt Ottinger on November 04, 2015, 03:54:07 PM
A brief story from a local reporter, providing some helpful context for those of us who don't live in Cincinnati, which I'm going to go out on a limb and guess is easily 60% of us, maybe even more.
 
http://wvxu.org/post/woth-tv-drops-antenna-tv-adds-buzzr-tv-game-shows#stream/0
Title: Re: Finally airing in Cincinnati - we can all rest.
Post by: Jimmy Owen on November 05, 2015, 05:47:49 AM
A brief story from a local reporter, providing some helpful context for those of us who don't live in Cincinnati, which I'm going to go out on a limb and guess is easily 60% of us, maybe even more.
 
http://wvxu.org/post/woth-tv-drops-antenna-tv-adds-buzzr-tv-game-shows#stream/0

I live in Cincinnati, but only when I'm there.
Title: Re: Finally airing in Cincinnati - we can all rest.
Post by: chargeradiocom on November 08, 2015, 10:24:21 PM
I haven't posted in a few years and didn't know if my account was even still active. :) But I still lurk from time to time. So I figured I'd post on this one from the perspective of a Cincy-based broadcasting geek.

WOTH and its sister station, WKRP, are low-power class A stations with spotty coverage at best, particularly outside of the I-275 loop. Time Warner, the main cable operator in the market, has never wanted much to do with them, and of course DIRECTV and DISH don't carry them. Cincinnati Bell Fioptics (our market's answer to FiOS and U-Verse) does carry some of their subs, but I don't know whether that includes 20.3 (the BUZZR/former Antenna channel).

If the Tribune guy in the article is to be believed (and granted, it could be corporate spin), it sounds Antenna probably bailed on the station, rather than the station booting Antenna. Can't blame them for wanting a station with better market penetration.

As far as BUZZR, I'm kind of happy it's now in the market, but it's not doing me much good. I'm just a few miles outside the 275 loop and can't pick it up for jack. Right now I'm renting, so an outdoor antenna isn't really a good option. Oh well... that's life.

/Maybe that will change soon. I'm looking to buy a house in the very near future, so I may just try giving an outdoor antenna a shot.

//Anyone have any advice on a good outdoor antenna? ;D
Title: Re: Finally airing in Cincinnati - we can all rest.
Post by: BrandonFG on November 09, 2015, 01:25:58 AM
WOTH and its sister station, WKRP
This makes me smile. :-)

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//Anyone have any advice on a good outdoor antenna? ;D
I know you said outdoor, but try this site (http://antennaweb.org)...
Title: Re: Finally airing in Cincinnati - we can all rest.
Post by: TimK2003 on November 09, 2015, 11:02:45 AM
Shopping for indoor or outdoor digital antennas is such a crap shoot.  There are too many variables (terrain, distance to transmitter, electronics interference, what side of dwelling you place the antenna, etc..) to determine what is the definitive antenna, although it is agreed that an outdoor, or even an attic-installed indoor antenna can be better than most digital antennas placed near your TV.
Title: Re: Finally airing in Cincinnati - we can all rest.
Post by: toddyo on November 09, 2015, 12:16:26 PM
I get the WOTH stations consistently (Buzzr) but the other set of 6 stations not so much. I have an outdoor antenna (Clearstream). I live outside the 275 loop and indoor antennas do not work. I am happy that Buzzr is airing and am surprised by the internal original spots.  A nice touch.