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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: ChrisLambert! on January 15, 2004, 06:15:28 PM
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abc press release as relayed through thefutoncritic.com:
ABC TO BRING ENDEMOL USA'S HIT GAME SHOW, "DEAL OR NO DEAL," TO THE U.S.
The ABC Television Network will be bringing the hit game show "Deal or No Deal" to the United States in spring 2004, it was announced today by Lloyd Braun, chairman, ABC Entertainment Television Group, and Susan Lyne, president, ABC Entertainment. The blockbuster game show has become a hit around the world, including in the Netherlands, Argentina and Australia.
A combination quiz show and high stakes guessing and math, "Deal or No Deal" can send winners home millionaires -- or empty-handed.
"Deal or No Deal" is produced by Endemol USA, which also produces "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" for ABC. John DeMol is executive producer. David Goldberg is president of Endemol Entertainment.
EDIT: More details from the (2nd) Australian game Show Page. (http://\"http://www.sub.net.au/~powney/gameshow/dealnodeal2003.htm\")
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this may sound like a durable plan, but it depends on if the "average joe and jane" is going to see this. I for one, Want to see how this works, because its pretty damn entertaining.
And besides, I'm depressed about all the gameshow good-byes at the end of this year. This shines a thin, but bright lining in a cloud of bad news.
-Dave
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[quote name=\'Strikerz04\' date=\'Jan 15 2004, 07:02 PM\'] And besides, I'm depressed about all the gameshow good-byes at the end of this year. This shines a thin, but bright lining in a cloud of bad news.
-Dave [/quote]
Well, NATPE starts up Sunday in Vegas, so we should see what, if any, game shows are in development for the fall then.
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[quote name=\'inturnaround\' date=\'Jan 15 2004, 08:09 PM\'] Well, NATPE starts up Sunday in Vegas, so we should see what, if any, game shows are in development for the fall then. [/quote]
Every advance report I've read says that there will be no new game shows pitched at NATPE this year.
Hey, "A combination quiz show and high stakes guessing and math"? That sure sounds like something worth checking out.
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The Australian version of the show is pretty woeful, and much of the "drama" is forced. It's also impossible for the audience to "play along" at home once the program reaches the stage a contestant chooses a briefcase.
It was run as an hour-long weekly program on Sunday nights in Australia last year, and had understandably mediocre ratings. This year, it's running as a half-hour daily program, at 5.30pm (WoF's old time slot... the wheel will now be screening at 5pm) against TPiR. Maybe the new half-hour format will give it some zing and tightness, or maybe it'll be a blessing for Price.
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Sounds like a show I may want to check out... The Aussie format seems very intriguing.
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Just a followup, according to TVGuide.com, the initial order is for six episodes.
(What's the line on all episodes airing? Wonder if Vegas will take out bets...)
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[quote name=\'whampyl03\' date=\'Jan 15 2004, 07:27 PM\'] Sounds like a show I may want to check out... The Aussie format seems very intriguing. [/quote]
Intriguing format? I guess so. But like I said, the show (at least the version that aired here last year) doesn't click. However, I like the concept of it enough to give the half-hour version a go.
Um, how do I say it... if you like games of endurance, cheering for a contestant, seeing how far they will go while needing to make quick decisions AND if you think that such a concept (usually used for programs featuring physical challenges) can be applied to more cerebral situations (based on mathematical probability rather than physical intenisity), maybe it's a show for you.
I'll resist making further comment until I see what the new, half-hour version is like.
Cherry "Standing too long on the soap box makes it collapse" Pizza
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It sounds a little like a more intelligent version of Play For A Million to me. And that was entertaining enough, monkey or no monkey, so I think I'm more than willing to see what this does.
(Hey, wonder if Drew's interested in hosting... :))
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(Hey, wonder if Drew's interested in hosting... :))
Or Wayne Brady, now that his show's been canceled.
Or since it is based on an Australian show....Gordon Elliott, anyone?
Or how about Maria Menounos from Entertainment Tonight (That'll get us watching!)? As long as they don't bring in Brian Dunkleman, I'll be tuning in.
Jonathan Allen
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[quote name=\'johnnya2k3\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 12:06 AM\']
Or since it is based on an Australian show....Gordon Elliott, anyone?
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Actually the program is Dutch, Australia simply produced a franchised version of it last year
And uh... most of us Australians have disowned Gordon Elliott. He's all yours. I'd offer you Steve Irwin too, but I think/hope you don't really want him
Cherry "Crock o'dull hunter" Pizza
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EDIT: More details from the (2nd) Australian game Show Page.
Too bad the text didn't precede the pictures. At first I thought it was just a photo page where someone would have to connect the dots (and what a picture that would make, yikes!).
This show might be fun. After all, lottery shows rely on just as much luck and those shows are moderately successful. However this might not hit the target demo that ABC may be going for.
I'm intrigued by the idea of someone going all the way with one case having a substantial prize and the other having only a nickle. What a hoot!
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(Hey, wonder if Drew's interested in hosting... :))
Or how about Maria Menounos from Entertainment Tonight (That'll get us watching!)?
I wouldn't get my hopes up on Maria. If they are thinking of having a woman hosting, (and I'm risking 'the wrath of the Witch' by even suggesting this) they should get Stephanie Miller to do it!
As long as they don't bring in Brian Dunkleman, I'll be tuning in.
Then again, they could hire Chuck Chandler; since there's been renewed interest in him on this board!
Cordially,
Tammy Warner--the 'Anita Gillette of the Big Board!'
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If you guys are suggesting a woman to host, here's my pick: BARBARA WALTERS!
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I actually looked at that page on the Aussie Game Shows site about a month ago. I was intrigued at the game's format, and I thought about making it into a 'NetGame, but then I realized that I didn't know the formula that the computer uses to calculate the bribes that the last contestant is offered.
If anyone from Australia has any ideas about how that value is calculated, I'd appreciate it. I know it has something to do with conditional probabilities and expected values.
Dean
(still waiting for the US version of "Fifteen-to-One")
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Jan 15 2004, 10:49 PM\'] If you guys are suggesting a woman to host, here's my pick: BARBARA WALTERS! [/quote]
good lord.
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[quote name=\'Winkfan\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 12:42 AM\'] they should get Stephanie Miller to do it!
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How about Stephanie Birkett?
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I've seen an episode and I agree - the hour show is mildly diverting but can see it wearing quite thin quite quickly.
The top prize in the original Dutch show is Five Million Euros, incidentally. That's about three-and-a-half-million quid.
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[quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 01:28 AM\'] How about Stephanie Birkett? [/quote]
Should I know who that is?
I'd prefer Stephanie Miller.
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[quote name=\'dscungio\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 12:53 AM\'] If anyone from Australia has any ideas about how that value is calculated, I'd appreciate it. I know it has something to do with conditional probabilities and expected values. [/quote]
I've also seen an episode the bribes are usually got awkward totals. The totals rely on what amounts are left in the cases so for example if you open 20 out of 26 Cases and the $1 Million plus the $2 Million cases are yet to revealed then the bribe could be huge of say $510,000. However if the bigger prizes have been revealed but the lower amounts are yet to be opened then the bribe will say $2,200 if say the $8,000 is still left. From my knowledge the lowest win on the Aussie show has been $25. The painful bit for the contestant is that they let you see what would happen if you went further into the game if you made a deal early this due to that the other persons holding the cases could win an amount depening on the odds of correctly answering the amount in that case.
What I will do is email you the game results of the episode I got over the weekend to give you some idea.
With the upcoming Aussie Daytime version it will cause some questions of the 30 Min format as a regular game takes 50-60 Mins from start to finish. My best guest is that the elimination process could be reduced as originally 200 people started, reduced to 100, reduced again to 25, reduced again to 2 then 1. If that is the case the game will probably start from the 25 People round. However since the move to Daytime the top prize could reduce as now the contestant call is saying "Win $100,000s" and no word about Millions in Dollars so the prize could be $500,000 as the French version is also offering the same top prize on their weekdaily version.
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Anyway it seems strange that ABC would buy this format if they wanted to go back to Quiz Shows. They would be better buying that superior format "The Vault" instead since King World is acting a sales rep and selling the format to other countries, including the UK.
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[quote name=\'DrBear\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 07:39 AM\'] [quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 01:28 AM\'] How about Stephanie Birkett? [/quote]
Should I know who that is?
I'd prefer Stephanie Miller. [/quote]
If I'm not mistaken (and I didn't know her name was spelled like that), she plays the ever popular Monty on David Letterman's gabfest.
As far as Stephanie Miller, I seem to have this vague recollection of her working in radio in my hometown of Chicago, where she also crafted a stand-up act and opened for Dennis Miller in a 1988 club appearance. Little did I know. . .
Doug -- soon to celebrate 300 posts
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If they want a woman to host this new "Deal," I'd suggest Joanna Gleason.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 08:12 AM\'] If they want a woman to host this new "Deal," I'd suggest Joanna Gleason. [/quote]
At the very least, it's an infinitely more sensible pick than Barbara-freakin'-Walters.
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If they were going to go with a female host, I wouldn't be surprised if they went where Disney got Meredith Viera and pick up Elisabeth Hasselbeck (?) from "The View." As far as I know, she doesn't polarize people like Star Jones or Joy Behar might and has some experience beyond "The View" in hosting, although she hasn't done this kind of audience participation format before.
And she was on "Survivor," if that means anything.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 12:00 PM\'] If they were going to go with a female host, I wouldn't be surprised if they went where Disney got Meredith Viera and pick up Elisabeth Hasselbeck (?) from "The View." As far as I know, she doesn't polarize people like Star Jones or Joy Behar might and has some experience beyond "The View" in hosting, although she hasn't done this kind of audience participation format before.
And she was on "Survivor," if that means anything. [/quote]
Nowadays, being on "Survivor" can place you in contention for TV jobs for which you may not have been considered otherwise.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 10:00 AM\'] If they were going to go with a female host, I wouldn't be surprised if they went where Disney got Meredith Viera and pick up Elisabeth Hasselbeck (?) from "The View." As far as I know, she doesn't polarize people like Star Jones or Joy Behar might and has some experience beyond "The View" in hosting, although she hasn't done this kind of audience participation format before.
And she was on "Survivor," if that means anything. [/quote]
I haven't seen Elizabeth's work yet, but I just get the feeling she'd be way too bubbly for a show like this.
(And yes, it's Hasselbeck, she's Matt's brother-in-law. ;))
Frankly, the network already has Bergeron working for them, but I dun wanna have to flog myself with my own paddle. :)
What's McEnroe doing these days? :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 01:06 PM\'] What's McEnroe doing these days? :) [/quote]
Hey, the second rhetorical question I've answered this week!
http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/...%7C1%7C,00.html (http://\"http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,271%7C85752%7C1%7C,00.html\")
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What's McEnroe doing these days? :)
He will have a new talk show on CNBC later this month.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 12:24 PM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 01:06 PM\'] What's McEnroe doing these days? :) [/quote]
Hey, the second rhetorical question I've answered this week!
http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/...%7C1%7C,00.html (http://\"http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,271%7C85752%7C1%7C,00.html\")[/quote]
Is he going to ask his guests to sit in--The Chair? :)
(Not that there aren't some cable news pundits I'd love to see get Heartstoppers.)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 11:06 AM\'] (And yes, it's Hasselbeck, she's Matt's brother-in-law. ;))
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Brother-in-law???!!! :)
Well, it could be worse. Former NC State basketball stand out Chuck Nevitt once said, "My sister's expecting and I don't know if I'm going to be an uncle or an aunt." :)
Doug -- soon to celebrate 300 posts
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 11:34 AM\'] Is he going to ask his guests to sit in--The Chair? :)
(Not that there aren't some cable news pundits I'd love to see get Heartstoppers.) [/quote]
And he'll probably tell all the guest stars, "You may not answer the question!" (LOL)
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 10:04 AM\'] [quote name=\'DrBear\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 07:39 AM\'] [quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 01:28 AM\'] How about Stephanie Birkett? [/quote]
Should I know who that is?
I'd prefer Stephanie Miller. [/quote]
If I'm not mistaken (and I didn't know her name was spelled like that), she plays the ever popular Monty on David Letterman's gabfest.
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It was intended sarcastically, although it helps to have a clue who I'm talking about ;-)
And I think that's how you spell it...check the ending credits on the LS sometime...
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 12:06 PM\'] I haven't seen Elizabeth's work yet, but I just get the feeling she'd be way too bubbly for a show like this. [/quote]
Way too bubbly, plus I'd rather give a show like this to a halfway-qualified individual, not someone who just started on The View a few months ago and probably has next to no interest in hosting a game show.
(And yes, it's Hasselbeck, she's Matt's brother-in-law. ;))
Married to Washington Redskins QB Tim Hasselbeck.
And to make this ObGS if it wasn't already, Matt Hasselbeck was on Wheel of Fortune's NFL Players Week last week.
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[quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 11:31 AM\'] Married to Washington Redskins QB Tim Hasselbeck.
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Hence the wink.
And to make this ObGS if it wasn't already, Matt Hasselbeck was on Wheel of Fortune's NFL Players Week last week.Where he was confronted with the puzzle:
G R _ _ N
B A Y
P A C K _ R S
...and attempted to buy an "O", thereby turing the game over to Al Harris. :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 10:55 AM\'] [quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 08:12 AM\'] If they want a woman to host this new "Deal," I'd suggest Joanna Gleason. [/quote]
At the very least, it's an infinitely more sensible pick than Barbara-freakin'-Walters. [/quote]
WHAT?! I think we should give Barbara Walters a chance to host a game show.
She hasn't hosted one yet, you know. Give her a chance! I most definitely would!
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 01:06 PM\'] [quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 11:31 AM\'] Married to Washington Redskins QB Tim Hasselbeck.
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Hence the wink.
And to make this ObGS if it wasn't already, Matt Hasselbeck was on Wheel of Fortune's NFL Players Week last week [/quote]
Which still doesn't explain how she is Matt's brother-in-law. Unless "brother-in-law" is now gender neutral. :)
How's this for a 300th post? (I know, lame like the other 299. ;) )
Doug
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 12:52 PM\'] Which still doesn't explain how she is Matt's brother-in-law. Unless "brother-in-law" is now gender neutral. :)
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Excellent point. My, this crack is smooth....
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 02:32 PM\'] [quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 10:55 AM\'] [quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 08:12 AM\'] If they want a woman to host this new "Deal," I'd suggest Joanna Gleason. [/quote]
At the very least, it's an infinitely more sensible pick than Barbara-freakin'-Walters. [/quote]
WHAT?! I think we should give Barbara Walters a chance to host a game show.
She hasn't hosted one yet, you know. Give her a chance! I most definitely would! [/quote]
And you'd last as long as "The Newlywed Game" did on ABC in 1984.
I'll give you a chance to prove your point, however. WHY should she get a chance? I really don't see any hosting qualities in her.
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 12:32 PM\'] WHAT?! I think we should give Barbara Walters a chance to host a game show.
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Yes, we know that. It's pretty easy to figure out that your Barbara Walters fetish is up there with with "John's" jones for Megan Mulally and Fun House.
She hasn't hosted one yet, you know.
Naw, really?
Give her a chance! I most definitely would!
Obviously. What's it like working for Thad Dixon?
I can't see a SINGLE thing about her that makes me look at her and say "Give that woman a stack of questions and stand back." NOT ONE.
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Hmmm...Is Colleen Haskell available, since she ultimately turned down Survivor All-Stars?
Jonathan Allen
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 02:06 PM\'] Hence the wink.
And to make this ObGS if it wasn't already, Matt Hasselbeck was on Wheel of Fortune's NFL Players Week last week.Where he was confronted with the puzzle:
G R _ _ N
B A Y
P A C K _ R S
...and attempted to buy an "O", thereby turing the game over to Al Harris. :)
ROFLMAO! Didn't Hasselbeck make a prediction after the first toss-up puzzle that he'd win the game? ;-)
A little NFL humor for ya. Actually, it's very little NFL humor.
Missed the wink, Chris. That's my error for the month. :-)
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[quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 01:50 PM\'] ROFLMAO! Didn't Hasselbeck make a prediction after the first toss-up puzzle that he'd win the game? ;-)
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That's correct. "I'm gonna spin the wheel first, and I'm gonna WIN!"
Missed the wink, Chris. That's my error for the month. :-)
You missed the wink, I missed the gender. I'd pretty much call that a wash. :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 02:53 PM\'] You missed the wink, I missed the gender. I'd pretty much call that a wash. :) [/quote]
Don't feel too bad, Chris. You've made six times as many posts as I have, yet somehow I've managed to make six times as many errors as you have (at least--prolly more). ;-)
And can you upload some of that smooth stuff? :)
Doug
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How about Peter Tomarken? I think he'd do all right w/the format, and there are certainly worse choices for the hosting slot.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'dscungio\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 12:53 AM\'] I actually looked at that page on the Aussie Game Shows site about a month ago.
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Geeze, do you people have to refer to THAT site as *the* Aussie Game Show site right in front of the person who had an Australian game show site years before that one was even thought of? ;)
Cherry "tongue in cheek" Pizza
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I'd like to congratulate this board for its restraint on not suggesting Barbara Walters as Bob Barker's replacement on The Pwice is Wight.
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Maybe there's a place for her somewhere else on the show.
Do TPiR models wear bikinis on the American version?
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[quote name=\'CherryPizza\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 06:41 PM\'] Maybe there's a place for her somewhere else on the show.
Do TPiR models wear bikinis on the American version? [/quote]
How do you think the show has remained #1? ;-)
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 05:20 PM\'] How about Peter Tomarken? I think he'd do all right w/the format, and there are certainly worse choices for the hosting slot.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby") [/quote]
After checking out the format, I think this is the type of format that would suit Peter well. The kind that he can have total control over the flow of the show, yet run the game smoothly and still be able to crack a few jokes and be a little silly.
Tyshaun
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[quote name=\'tyshaun1\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 04:54 PM\'] [quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 05:20 PM\'] How about Peter Tomarken? I think he'd do all right w/the format, and there are certainly worse choices for the hosting slot.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby") [/quote]
After checking out the format, I think this is the type of format that would suit Peter well. The kind that he can have total control over the flow of the show, yet run the game smoothly and still be able to crack a few jokes and be a little silly.
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I'd take Tomarken. Always liked him, and he's gotten old enough to have a bit of a distinguished look about him, which is important when you're playing for major cash.
Ooh. How about John O'Hurley?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 06:59 PM\'] I'd take Tomarken. Always liked him, and he's gotten old enough to have a bit of a distinguished look about him, which is important when you're playing for major cash.
Ooh. How about John O'Hurley? [/quote]
If he's not too busy hosting dog shows. :-)
We have a winner. Excellent call, Chris. O'Hurley looked like the epitome of class on TTTT, perfect for a big money show like this.
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I tell ya, Joe Garagiola would still be up for a new hosting gig! Unless he feels some loyalty to NBC.
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[quote name=\'tyshaun1\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 06:54 PM\']
After checking out the format, I think this is the type of format that would suit Peter well. The kind that he can have total control over the flow of the show, yet run the game smoothly and still be able to crack a few jokes and be a little silly.
Tyshaun [/quote]
The Australian host actually has a background in Theatresports, and is also a regular on a sketch comedy show. He sometimes adds lighter moments to the show, but in a format so strongly game-driven, it's not always possible for the show to be a vehicle for the host. Take the 196 revamp of Wheel of Fortune over here, Tony Barber just wouldn't shut up, but he seemed to think that in order to prove himself as a worthy new host, he had to keep talking and talking, but the changes to the show wouldn't allow this.
So... my exposure to Peter T is limited to what I've seen of him on the internet, so I can't comment, but if you say he has the skill to have control over the flow of the show, then maybe that's exactly the balance the show needs.
Incidentally, I've posted a small article about the Aussie host here (http://\"http://www.geocities.com/televisioncity/studio/3361/dealornodeal.html\")
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 02:32 PM\'] [quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 10:55 AM\'] [quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 08:12 AM\'] If they want a woman to host this new "Deal," I'd suggest Joanna Gleason. [/quote]
At the very least, it's an infinitely more sensible pick than Barbara-freakin'-Walters. [/quote]
WHAT?! I think we should give Barbara Walters a chance to host a game show.
She hasn't hosted one yet, you know. Give her a chance! I most definitely would! [/quote]
Neither has Idi Amin. Shall we give him a gig, too? Say!! Maybe we can work Babs into this after all. Team her with Hugh Downs (who does have game show experience) on the telecast. After all, those two worked together for many years on two successful shows. Yes, let's see what the focus groups do with this.
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This is a surprise. ABC is (at least for now) going to stop being "Himbo & Bimbo" Television* in order to pick up a game show that involves actual SMARTS? Cool beans.
It sounds intriguing enough for me to tune in and watch. I'll check it out. As for hosts, no past Survivors, no inexperienced oafs, no mess. I think John O'Hurley would fit the bill nicely. His stentorian manner and high sense of class makes him the perfect fit for this show.
I'll be watching this show. Sounds like fun.
The Inquisitive One
*For those of you who have not caught on yet, I was making a reference to The Bachelor/Bachelorette (A.K.A. legalized pimping).
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It sounds intriguing enough for me to tune in and watch. I'll check it out. As for hosts, no past Survivors, no inexperienced oafs, no mess. I think John O'Hurley would fit the bill nicely. His stentorian manner and high sense of class makes him the perfect fit for this show.
This show seems like one where the host will most likely be the deciding factor if this show is a hit or miss. I like the Peter Tomarken suggestion, especially after his work on Paranoia (which he might be able to transition from easily, based on the everybody-and-their-mother-playing aspects that both games have). John O'Hurley also sounds good. For women hosts, I wouldn't mind Meredith Vierra stretching her duties (fat chance). And since everyone is throwing wild cards in there, Carol Burnett I think would make an interesting choice. I can't put my finger on it, but she seems like someone who could pull off the dynamic that I envision this show having (toeing the line between seriousness and making sure everyone is having a good time).
I can only hope that ABC doesn't have a deal with Paul Ruebens giving him dibs on the next quiz show they do :::Shudders at the memory of YDKJ::: Though if they put Bill Cullen on the short list again, at least we know they still have good taste in hosts (despite certain obvious handicaps).
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[quote name=\'CherryPizza\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 05:55 PM\'] Take the 196 revamp of Wheel of Fortune over here, Tony Barber just wouldn't shut up, but he seemed to think that in order to prove himself as a worthy new host, he had to keep talking and talking
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Can you fault him? The guy just spent 10 years rattling off questions on $otC as fast as he could, of COURSE he rambled on while running Wheel. :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 17 2004, 02:28 AM\'] [quote name=\'CherryPizza\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 05:55 PM\'] Take the 196 revamp of Wheel of Fortune over here, Tony Barber just wouldn't shut up, but he seemed to think that in order to prove himself as a worthy new host, he had to keep talking and talking
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Can you fault him? The guy just spent 10 years rattling off questions on $otC as fast as he could, of COURSE he rambled on while running Wheel. :) [/quote]
Point taken, Tony can't be held completely responsible for what was going on... he was the front man for a lot of backdoor hoo-ha, and he was obvioulsy under pressure to prove himself among the chaos, hence the talking - which, like I said, worked against those intentions to prove himself because viewers just got more pissed off with him.
However, the part of it that he can't blame anyone else for is his inability to let himself be subordinate to the game. He always wants to be the centre of attention, and restraint has never been his strong point.
Just as an example of what I mean, check out an old usenet posting (http://\"http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=vEGI6.1288%24ZJ.43000%40ozemail.com.au&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26q%3Dtony%2Bbarber%26meta%3Dgroup%253Daus.tv.*\") from somebody who had read his memoir.
As a disclaimer, I must point out that I have respect for the man and what he has done, but he has his faults (as does everybody)
FWIW, his stint on WoF was 5 years after he left SotC, so it's not true to say he "just spent" that time on Sale
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[quote name=\'johnnya2k3\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 03:20 PM\']Hmmm...Is Colleen Haskell available, since she ultimately turned down Survivor All-Stars?[/quote]
My understanding is that she's had enough with being on-camera and would rather work behind the scenes, as she did in theater before "Survivor."
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 07:12 PM\'] Neither has Idi Amin. Shall we give him a gig, too? [/quote]
I've never heard of Idi Amin. Who is he?
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Jan 18 2004, 06:19 PM\'] [quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 07:12 PM\'] Neither has Idi Amin. Shall we give him a gig, too? [/quote]
I've never heard of Idi Amin. Who is he? [/quote]
A now dead tyrant who ruled a country years ago [I can't remember for the life of me which one]
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[quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Jan 18 2004, 05:25 PM\'] [quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Jan 18 2004, 06:19 PM\'] [quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Jan 16 2004, 07:12 PM\'] Neither has Idi Amin. Shall we give him a gig, too? [/quote]
I've never heard of Idi Amin. Who is he? [/quote]
A now dead tyrant who ruled a country years ago [I can't remember for the life of me which one] [/quote]
Nerdo-Crumbezia, er, Uganda.
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maybe good old GWB has merged Amin with some other old leader, the same way he tried to convince the US that Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein were the one and the same
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I've heard that the Aussie Deal restarted today in the new Weekdaily Format, is there any news about it of how it went?