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Title: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: PYLdude on December 02, 2014, 01:17:09 PM
RHO Atlanta adds Claudia Jordan to the cast.

http://wpri.com/2014/12/02/ri-native-joins-real-housewives-of-atlanta/
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: comicus on December 02, 2014, 08:09:57 PM
So would this be a step up or a step down career-wise?
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: jjman920 on December 02, 2014, 08:27:22 PM
So would this be a step up or a step down career-wise?
Probably a step up. Real Housewives of Atlanta is one of the most popular in the franchise.

The season started a couple of weeks ago, and if you like drama, well this season will be right up your alley as the season is standing in the shadow of a fight during a reunion special and one of the husbands preparing to go to jail.

The whole franchise is garbage, but this series is the fun one for me.
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: Thunder on December 03, 2014, 02:07:47 AM
So would this be a step up or a step down career-wise?

I would think that to most people, she's "Who?". My vote would be "step up".
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: PYLdude on December 03, 2014, 06:36:38 AM
To me, any time you have to resort to being on a "reality" show, especially one like this, it's never for the best possible reason. I say step down.
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: TLEberle on December 03, 2014, 12:38:47 PM
Who says that it is a measure of last resort to appear on a reality show, whether a competition or a documentary?
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: PYLdude on December 03, 2014, 02:01:28 PM
Who says that it is a measure of last resort to appear on a reality show, whether a competition or a documentary?

Well, how would you define such a move?
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: TLEberle on December 03, 2014, 02:21:06 PM
I wouldn't bother to define it. It is a thing she wants to do unless she is being filmed under duress. I'm not going to watch but I'm also not going to sneer at the fact that she has chosen a different career path from "Gal who points at dirt bikes and fondles toaster pastries."
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on December 03, 2014, 04:22:40 PM
Who says that it is a measure of last resort to appear on a reality show, whether a competition or a documentary?
Considering the fact a good majority of "stars" who appear on said series are either washed up or has-beens, I can absolutely see why some people consider this a step down.
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: Kevin Prather on December 03, 2014, 05:10:18 PM
Has anyone actually revitalized their career by doing a show like this?
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: BrandonFG on December 03, 2014, 06:07:30 PM
Not so much a "Housewives" show, but there's been a few has beens who gained a new life from VH-1 shows.

ObGameShow: "Trivial Pursuit" host Christopher Knight comes to mind.
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: TLEberle on December 03, 2014, 06:13:29 PM
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Considering the fact a good majority of "stars" who appear on said series are either washed up or has-beens, I can absolutely see why some people consider this a step down.
That's your opinion and that's fine, but I was asking why any show has to be a "last resort."
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on December 03, 2014, 06:22:12 PM
Considering the fact a good majority of "stars" who appear on said series are either washed up or has-beens, I can absolutely see why some people consider this a step down.
That's your opinion and that's fine, but I was asking why any show has to be a "last resort."
[/quote]Name another genre of television that features thespians of this level.
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: SuperSweeper on December 03, 2014, 06:24:01 PM
Has anyone actually revitalized their career by doing a show like this?

Kim and Kyle Richards?
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: TLEberle on December 03, 2014, 06:35:59 PM
Name another genre of television that features thespians of this level.
My understanding is that the casts are made up of people who are in fact not actors, which is why they're called reality shows. Your question falls at the hurdle.

You can say what you want about the show or the people on them, I don't see why it's a big deal that I'm not in line to castigate someone for signing up to be on one. Apparently that really grinds some peoples's gears.
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: Kevin Prather on December 03, 2014, 06:56:59 PM
Has anyone actually revitalized their career by doing a show like this?

Kim and Kyle Richards?
Are they finding work outside their reality show, or has that become their thing now?

Christopher Knight was an example more along what I was going for. Career is stagnant, go on a reality show, start making the rounds again.
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: Thunder on December 04, 2014, 12:50:02 AM
... I'm not going to watch but I'm also not going to sneer at the fact that she has chosen a different career path from "Gal who points at dirt bikes and fondles toaster pastries."

I'm willing to take a bet that less than 5% of the USA recognizes Claudia Jordan's name as a toaster pastry fondler.

/or even a "The Price Is Right" model, for that matter.
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: TLEberle on December 04, 2014, 12:53:42 AM
Good on them; I'm still not going to sneer at what she's choosing to do with her time. Whether it is a step up, down, left, right or a step to the side and two steps backward, who cares?
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: Thunder on December 04, 2014, 01:05:42 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/ZQcdJ47.jpg)

Correct for $400.
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: jjman920 on December 04, 2014, 08:09:51 AM
Has anyone actually revitalized their career by doing a show like this?

Kim and Kyle Richards?
Are they finding work outside their reality show, or has that become their thing now?

Christopher Knight was an example more along what I was going for. Career is stagnant, go on a reality show, start making the rounds again.
I think Flava Flav would also be a good example. He was pretty quiet until he appeared on The Surreal Life. From there he got two spin-off reality series and his appearances else where took an uptick.

I had never heard of Nene Leakes, one of the original housewives of the Atlanta series, until the show gained traction. Since she's been on the show, she's made appearances on The Price is Right (during their Celebrity Week), Dancing with the Stars, Glee, The New Normal, and The Celebrity Apprentice among other numerous places.
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: Matt Ottinger on December 04, 2014, 12:11:53 PM
Has anyone actually revitalized their career by doing a show like this?

Arguably, Ozzy Osborne.  Plus the rest of the family were essentially unknown in the mainstream before that show, and now they're all (especially Sharon) celebrities.
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: TLEberle on December 04, 2014, 12:13:44 PM
Correct for $400.
Then let them; neither Chris nor Mark have answered the questions I've put forward, and all you've done is get in the way.
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: Thunder on December 04, 2014, 10:43:17 PM
I'm sorry that you're not getting the answers from them. I'll gladly serve my 2 minutes for interference.

/Shut up. You will not dictate how I live my life.
//That quote is awesome.
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: Kevin Prather on December 04, 2014, 10:52:45 PM
/"Shut up. You will not dictate how I live my life." - Zach Horan
//That quote is awesome.
Learn to attribute quotes properly.
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: PYLdude on December 04, 2014, 10:55:31 PM
Correct for $400.
Then let them; neither Chris nor Mark have answered the questions I've put forward, and all you've done is get in the way.

And for the record, you haven't answered the question I asked you as to how going on a reality television series isn't a step down and you didn't answer what Mark asked you as a counterpoint. Suppose we're even.

Some people have opinions on things that should simply be left at that. This isn't a trial.
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: TLEberle on December 04, 2014, 11:08:19 PM
And for the record, you haven't answered the question I asked you as to how going on a reality television series isn't a step down and you didn't answer what Mark asked you as a counterpoint. Suppose we're even.
I don't think we're even at all. (This reminds me a lot of your needlessly throwing in "Celebrity Blackjack" in the Celebrity Name Game thread. It served no purpose and derailed discussion.)

If I go on The Amazing Race, how is that a step down? I think it's a terrific experience that not many people get. Why does it have to be a "step down" to go on Jersey Shore? Step down from what?

And I did answer Mark's question: lots of shows don't feature actors; such as Survivor, The Race, The Mole, Big Brother, The Voice, Solitary, and on and on. (Reality shows encompass both the competitive ones and the "fly-on-the-wall" documentaries. This is another time that Mark is caught out in trying to be clever in his snarking and it backfired.

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Some people have opinions on things that should simply be left at that.
That's what I've been saying; it is you who doesn't seem to understand this; that I have my opinion and that I think people who look at "going on a reality is a step down" are snobbish.
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: Thunder on December 04, 2014, 11:12:09 PM
The goalposts have been moved so much that they're now on the home team's blue line.

Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: TLEberle on December 04, 2014, 11:13:29 PM
The goalposts have been moved so much that they're now on the home team's blue line.
Then feel free to enjoy one of our hundreds of other threads. Or continue to pollute this one.
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: PYLdude on December 04, 2014, 11:14:50 PM
And for the record, you haven't answered the question I asked you as to how going on a reality television series isn't a step down and you didn't answer what Mark asked you as a counterpoint. Suppose we're even.
I don't think we're even at all.

If I go on The Amazing Race, how is that a step down? I think it's a terrific experience that not many people get. Why does it have to be a "step down" to go on Jersey Shore? Step down from what?

Note I did not say "reality competition series", part A.

If you would actively WANT to be a part of a show like Jersey Shore was, I would have to question your functional capacity and I doubt I'd be the only one.

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And I did answer Mark's question: lots of shows don't feature answers; such as Survivor, The Race, The Mole, Big Brother, The Voice, Solitary, and on and on. (Reality shows encompass both the competitive ones and the "fly-on-the-wall" documentaries.

And if this was 2004 I would perhaps agree with you. But as the genre has evolved, a split has formed and the genre is no longer a whole but two separate parts.

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Some people have opinions on things that should simply be left at that.
That's what I've been saying; it is you who doesn't seem to understand this; that I have my opinion and that I think people who look at "going on a reality is a step down" are snobbish.

So what am I not understanding, that I have the same right to an opinion that you do and don't need to be interrogated because I don't fall in line with your way of thinking? You're better/smarter than that.
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: TLEberle on December 04, 2014, 11:25:51 PM
Note I did not say "reality competition series", part A.
I imagine that for a wide swath of humanity that "reality show" encompasses both camps.

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If you would actively WANT to be a part of a show like Jersey Shore was, I would have to question your functional capacity and I doubt I'd be the only one.
I wouldn't do that one specifically, but there's certainly enough applicants for them to keep cranking out most of them. (For me personally the show where I'd stand to "gain" the most was Beauty & the Geek.)

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And if this was 2004 I would perhaps agree with you. But as the genre has evolved, a split has formed and the genre is no longer a whole but two separate parts.
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So what am I not understanding, that I have the same right to an opinion that you do and don't need to be interrogated because I don't fall in line with your way of thinking? You're better/smarter than that.
No, that's not the case. I gave my answer, saying "I don't care, let them be." You didn't like it and carried on about how it's a "step down" to be on a show. Same deal as happened in the CNG thread. I seriously doubt that somebody is going to watch or not watch because a TPIR model joined the cast. I'm not going to classify it as a step down because I don't think it is one. I don't think it is a step down because it's just moving from one television show to another. It isn't neuroscience.
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: PYLdude on December 04, 2014, 11:32:08 PM
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I don't think it is a step down because it's just moving from one television show to another.

Only if you look at it from a purely literal sense.
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: PYLdude on December 04, 2014, 11:51:01 PM
Note I did not say "reality competition series", part A.
I imagine that for a wide swath of humanity that "reality show" encompasses both camps.

Well, the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences does not agree with your assessment, so I'm more inclined to go with theirs.

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And if this was 2004 I would perhaps agree with you. But as the genre has evolved, a split has formed and the genre is no longer a whole but two separate parts.
{citation needed}

Again, I refer you to ATAS' classification.
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: TLEberle on December 04, 2014, 11:51:58 PM
Only if you look at it from a purely literal sense.
Now who's being dismissive?
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: PYLdude on December 04, 2014, 11:55:38 PM
Only if you look at it from a purely literal sense.
Now who's being dismissive?

I'm not being dismissive here, I'm pointing out that you subscribe to the literal point of view. That's all.

The post I made after this one might be more qualified as dismissive, perhaps.
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: TLEberle on December 05, 2014, 12:00:43 AM
Now I'm curious: What do these reality "stars" earn per episode, and what would a model or case holder earn for a single hour? Because the paycheck might be a step up (and certainly would be an improvement on $0.) She was also on Celebrity Apprentice and received an honorarium/combat pay for being around Donald Trump for as long as she was.

/was trying to make a hair joke there.
//no joy.
Title: Re: Former TPIR model becomes new member of the Bravo housewives, among others.
Post by: BrandonFG on December 05, 2014, 12:05:31 AM
This is the one case where I think the reality show is a step up, because she gets significant screen time and actually talks.

On TPiR, it was point at the toaster/washer and dryer/car/trip to Acapulco and smile. On D/ND, it was open the case and occasionally react to the dollar amount inside. Plus, with the Housewives show, she's not sharing screen time with the other eye candy (in D/ND's case, 25 other women), so there's that.