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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: Vahan_Nisanian on October 11, 2014, 12:36:11 PM
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Does anyone know if the Challenger Explosion interfered with Press Your Luck or not? The disaster happened at 11:39 AM EST. By this point, the show was now at three different timeslots, depending on the area: 11:00 AM, 12:00 PM, or 4:00 PM.
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By this point, the show was now at three different timeslots, depending on the area: 11:00 AM, 12:00 PM, or 4:00 PM.
I promise you it never aired at any of these times in my market.
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Does anyone know if the Challenger Explosion interfered with Press Your Luck or not? The disaster happened at 11:39 PM EST. By this point, the show was now at three different timeslots, depending on the area: 11:00 AM, 12:00 PM, or 4:00 PM.
I didn't know NASA launched flights around midnight.
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If it was on at any time other than 4:00pm, it was on a tape delay. What happened then was up to the local station.
By the way, at this point, PYL was on so few stations at all it wasn't funny.
/Side comment: And if we're talking about Eastern stations, I can guarantee you they would never put it on at 11:00am.
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I didn't know 12:00 PM was midnight.
I was home from school that day, because the school district had some sort of state-mandated midterm testing or something that only certain grades took. This being a Major News Event, I have a pretty distinct memory of what happened, which is that there was a brief interruption of the second Showcase Showdon on TPIR which irritated me because it seemed more like a technical glitch. Cut back to TPIR for a few more seconds, before we got the CBS News Special Report music and rolling news coverage for the rest of the day.
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Does anyone know if the Challenger Explosion interfered with Press Your Luck or not? The disaster happened at 11:39 AM EST. By this point, the show was now at three different timeslots, depending on the area: 11:00 AM, 12:00 PM, or 4:00 PM.
3:00 PM too.
According to the Vanderbilt TV News Archive, CBS had coverage (with the exception of a 10-minute gap in the 1PM ET hour) from the time the story broke until about 5:13 ET. So I would say PYL was pre-empted, unless the West Coast ran the intended episode at 3PM PT (my guess is they didn't--but it's only a guess).
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I didn't know 12:00 PM was midnight.
He's talking about Vahan's saying the launch was at 11:39 PM. Still a really, really minor nit to pick.
As for PYL, I thought it was 10:30am EST at first, then moved to 4pm EST in early-1986. Never heard of it being on at noon.
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He's talking about Vahan's saying the launch was at 11:39 PM. Still a really, really minor nit to pick.
As for PYL, I thought it was 10:30am EST at first, then moved to 4pm EST in early-1986. Never heard of it being on at noon.
I know the New York and Los Angeles areas had it during the final months at Noon and 11:00 a.m. respectively.
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Just checked Chicago's listings, it was on at 11:00am by the end.
On a related note, did PYL mention the end of the series on the last show?
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Just checked Chicago's listings, it was on at 11:00am by the end.
On a related note, did PYL mention the end of the series on the last show?
No, and the last month of shows followed a month of reruns, so it seems the plug was pulled abruptly. There was also some effort to sell the show to syndication, but all that managed to happen was a rerun package.
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Nicholas said that if it was on at any time other than 4:00 p.m. in 1986, it was on a tape delay.
By that, does he that these particular stations would air an episode from the day or week before? The Detroit CBS affiliate I heard would do that with the show, and from January to June 1986, the Detroit affiliate aired it at 9:00 a.m.
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Nicholas said that if it was on at any time other than 4:00 p.m. in 1986, it was on a tape delay.
By that, does he that these particular stations would air an episode from the day or week before? The Detroit CBS affiliate I heard would do that with the show, and from January to June 1986, the Detroit affiliate aired it at 9:00 a.m.
Most likely the day before. The station would roll tape on the network feed at 4PM and then play it back the following day at whatever time. That also means it's entirely possible that the final episode didn't air in any of those timeshift markets. Not that anyone at the time would have noticed the difference.
If indeed CBS was in news coverage until after 5PM the day of the Challenger disaster, that could have affected the Press Your Luck air schedule.
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If indeed CBS was in news coverage until after 5PM the day of the Challenger disaster, that could have affected the Press Your Luck air schedule.
Would that day's episode have simply not aired, or would they just push everything back a day (like NBC did with their shows)?
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If indeed CBS was in news coverage until after 5PM the day of the Challenger disaster, that could have affected the Press Your Luck air schedule.
Would that day's episode have simply not aired, or would they just push everything back a day (like NBC did with their shows)?
That's a good question. With a show like TPIR, the pre-empted show would air at a later date (like the assassination of Anwar Sadat in October 1981. The preempted show ended up airing in January according to the TPIR Timeline.) But I'm not sure what the policy was for a show with returning champions or if there even was a different policy. I don't think there were any other large scale breaking news preemptions during PYL's run to compare it to. And as pointed out earlier, there's a possibility the episode in question only aired on the west coast. The affiliates that were still carrying it had to air something in PYL's slot, after all.
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I was wondering about myself. In the '70s, anything that was pre-empted would air the next day, so nothing was skipped. This is why Match Game and Tattletales frequently changed celebrity panels in mid-week. By the mid-80s, I'm not sure CBS was still doing that. I don't think a show like $25,000 Pyramid ever straddled weeks, and I'm sure it must have been pre-empted a few times.
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I was actually home from school the day the Challenger exploded, and I know for certain that Scrabble was interrupted due to the Challenger explosion because I was watching the show when the news broke. I also recall seeing the explosion replayed no less than 15 times during the remainder of the day.
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As I'm typing this, I am at my local library.
I looked at the first week of January 1986 for both the Los Angeles Times and New York Times. On January 6, 1986 2 on the Town and Body Language were respectively listed for 11:00 a.m. and 12 Noon. But on the next day, both 11:00 a.m. and 12:00 p.m. were respectively listed for Press Your Luck.
So just to clarify, this was what Nicholas meant by "tape delay". That the January 7, 1986 airing of the show in the Los Angeles and New York markets was really the delayed airing of the January 6 episode.
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Does anyone know if the Challenger Explosion interfered with Press Your Luck or not? The disaster happened at 11:39 AM EST. By this point, the show was now at three different timeslots, depending on the area: 11:00 AM, 12:00 PM, or 4:00 PM.
I must say, this is possibly the most distasteful question posted here in ages. The answer should be, "who the hell cares, and why is your life affected one way or the other whether it was or not?"
As someone who is old enough to VIVIDLY remember the tragic events of the day, nothing else mattered. Seven people died in a horrific event, witnessed live by millions of americans on television. Was "Press Your Luck" interfered with? Good lord...
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Yeah, why does it matter in 2014? Really?
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I must say, this is possibly the most distasteful question posted here in ages. The answer should be, "who the hell cares, and why is your life affected one way or the other whether it was or not?"
As someone who is old enough to VIVIDLY remember the tragic events of the day, nothing else mattered. Seven people died in a horrific event, witnessed live by millions of americans on television. Was "Press Your Luck" interfered with? Good lord...
You really think I have no affection for any of the victims of the disaster? You really think I'm glad they're dead?
No! I never said that, I never implied that!
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I must say, this is possibly the most distasteful question posted here in ages. The answer should be, "who the hell cares, and why is your life affected one way or the other whether it was or not?"
As someone who is old enough to VIVIDLY remember the tragic events of the day, nothing else mattered. Seven people died in a horrific event, witnessed live by millions of americans on television. Was "Press Your Luck" interfered with? Good lord...
You really think I have no affection for any of the victims of the disaster? You really think I'm glad they're dead?
No! I never said that, I never implied that!
What narzo meant was that the country (and the world) didn't care what happened to Press Your Luck that day. Seven people were tragically killed on live television, likely shown around the world, and you're worried about what happened to a TV show that day.
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You really think I have no affection for any of the victims of the disaster? You really think I'm glad they're dead?
No! I never said that, I never implied that!
This is a logical fallacy and really inappropriate because you're hiding behind it to avoid dealing with the issue, and this goes to the problem you're having here. I get that you want to be seen as an adult and respected for what you bring to the group but you're going about it all wrong. You cannot ask a question like this and not have your sensibilities questioned. And when we question your sensibilities (because even if you don't think it is the case) this is a very tacky thing to ask ("Did a space shuttle tragedy preempt or bump a game show?") Someone rightly calls you out for it and you fly off the handle. On the off chance that you actually address your awful behavior you hide behind something, such as the excuse that you're only conditioned to behave in the way that people did on the GSN.com boards, or you twist things up in your brain so that you don't actually have to deal with real life, you just get all indignant and defensive instead of just saying "Yeah, that was a bad idea and I apologize."
It is tiring to make our way down this very predictable path and you not taking any accountability for your awful behavior here. If you want to be thought of well you actually have to do the work to build up a reputation. I'd say if you don't, keep doing what you're doing, but I imagine that what you're doing falls afoul of the Eligibility Requirements in some fashion. So it's your call.
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I must say, this is possibly the most distasteful question posted here in ages. The answer should be, "who the hell cares, and why is your life affected one way or the other whether it was or not?"
As someone who is old enough to VIVIDLY remember the tragic events of the day, nothing else mattered. Seven people died in a horrific event, witnessed live by millions of americans on television. Was "Press Your Luck" interfered with? Good lord...
You really think I have no affection for any of the victims of the disaster? You really think I'm glad they're dead?
No! I never said that, I never implied that!
Annnnd....here we go with you being defensive and having a meltdown. You really bring a lot of this on yourself, y'know.
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I totally realize that the reason this thread was started is the effort to correct the Press Your Luck episode guides that are out there (as it is at least very possible that GSN will get this far this time around). However, surely there was a more tactful way to ask without the question being construed as insensitive.
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I totally realize that the reason this thread was started is the effort to correct the Press Your Luck episode guides that are out there (as it is at least very possible that GSN will get this far this time around). However, surely there was a more tactful way to ask without the question being construed as insensitive.
In hindsight, I really should have stated that it was for the purposes of correcting past versions of the episode guide for the show. I do not know what would have been a less insensitive way to ask.
But the reason I didn't was because I was afraid I would get blasted by Travis for thinking game show episodes are "Chinpokomon" (he has blasted me for this before twice).
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But the reason I didn't was because I was afraid I would get blasted by Travis for thinking game show episodes are "Chinpokomon" (he has blasted me for this before twice).
You know...your obsession with Travis and Chris is not only tiring, but it's creepy. And you wonder why you get blasted so badly. Again, you bring it on yourself, you refuse to take anyone's advice, claim you're turning over a new leaf and go right back to your old ways. I don't even know why some of us bother trying to help you; you don't even want to help yourself.
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In hindsight, I really should have stated that it was for the purposes of correcting past versions of the episode guide for the show. I do not know what would have been a less insensitive way to ask.
Sometimes the best way to ask is to not ask at all. Nobody ever said an episode guide of a show from 30 years ago had to be perfect, down to having 100% accurate details of every show.
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I do not know what would have been a less insensitive way to ask.
This is your problem and not ours. If you can't find a way to say something in a tactful fashion then perhaps part of the thought process should be that maybe you shouldn't ask.
But the reason I didn't was because I was afraid I would get blasted by Travis for thinking game show episodes are "Chinpokomon" (he has blasted me for this before twice).
Horsecrap. Note that everyone here was indulging your survey and not a cross word was said to you until you flew off the handle. If I had given you grief about compiling an episode guide then it is on you to report the post as against the eligibility requirements. (The fact that you either fail to get the point of the reference or choose to be obstinate about it is your deal, and I'll note that regarding your guide for Sale of the Century I not only did not "blast" you but gave you some advice to improve it, which you took me up on.) To that point, if you really were afraid that I would "blast" you for posting, wouldn't your total be much lower? Obviously you weren't afraid enough to ask the question because you did.
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Horsecrap. Note that everyone here was indulging your survey and not a cross word was said to you until you flew off the handle.
That's not really a fair statement of the order of events. This thread was about 15 posts deep until someone took offense. At which point narzo and one of the EP's of this board threw a strongly-worded counterpoint to this, and that's what set things off to the current round of poopstorm we're in.
Now personally, I care even less than you about a Press Your Luck episode guide. But things were progressing pretty smoothly until the hornet's nest was kicked. And this time, Vahan didn't do the kicking.
Yeah, why does it matter in 2014? Really?
Chris, in all fairness, look at the content of the forum. We spend far, far more time talking about retro content than we do current content. If the bar you want to apply to what's an appropriate topic if is it's relevant in 2014, it's going to get very sparse in here, very quickly.
To all...
Is Vahan tonedeaf a lot of the time? Sure. Is the topic distasteful? I dunno. I think it's all relative. Nobody would have batted an eye if we had talked about whether the Watergate hearings had a particular effect on a particular show. And it's now generally accepted that Nixon was responsible for extending the Vietnam conflict and causing thousands of American deaths. That you watched one set of deaths on TV and not another should not drive your outrage about this topic. After all, that's what landed us in our current protracted land war in Asia, as well.
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hat's not really a fair statement of the order of events. This thread was about 15 posts deep until someone took offense. At which point narzo and one of the EP's of this board threw a strongly-worded counterpoint to this, and that's what set things off to the current round of poopstorm we're in.
You're right, but did Vahan report the post? Probably no. He flew off the handle and here we are. We were well-behaved for three days, which is some kind of record. (I also wonder how many people would have said something earlier but didn't want to be first in the hit parade of piling on, or didn't bother because the message wouldn't get through.)
Now personally, I care even less than you about a Press Your Luck episode guide. But things were progressing pretty smoothly until the hornet's nest was kicked. And this time, Vahan didn't do the kicking.
But he still chose to engage in his own way. Since when has "he hit me first" ever worked? Bring it up Behind the Scenes, report the post, maybe even a polite remark about how it was for his pet project instead of roping me into his excuse-making; any of those would have been an improvement.
Is Vahan tonedeaf a lot of the time? Sure.
This really cannot be overstated. To me, given the track record of the original poster, it comes off as very tonedeaf and insensitive, and I own my perspective on it, but I'm not the only one here who sees things that way. And every time we say "You could move the needle a bit by doing (whatever)," all we get back is static. How long are we supposed to endure the silliness without saying anything?
Is the topic distasteful? I dunno. I think it's all relative. Nobody would have batted an eye if we had talked about whether the Watergate hearings had a particular effect on a particular show.
Not Watergate specifically, but I know we've had discussions about preemptions to whatever degree. I think this particular area would make for a good discussion among some of our number.
Everyone is entitled to their own paradigm of what is distasteful and what isn't, and to comment and debate about it. They don't have the right to enforce their own position, but it is also up to us to put forth an effort to be considerate to most of the people most of the time.
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Now personally, I care even less than you about a Press Your Luck episode guide. But things were progressing pretty smoothly until the hornet's nest was kicked. And this time, Vahan didn't do the kicking.
But he still chose to engage in his own way. Since when has "he hit me first" ever worked? Bring it up Behind the Scenes, report the post, maybe even a polite remark about how it was for his pet project instead of roping me into his excuse-making; any of those would have been an improvement.
That goes both ways, though. When people found the topic of conversation unacceptable, did they take it out back, or did they keep it in a public forum? Vahan was called out in public, so he defended himself in public. It's not really fair to expect one set of behaviors by one poster versus another, regardless of psychological makeup, track record, or even whether we like them or not. And we really are expecting this, since Vahan was the only one called out for this behavior in all of this.
And every time we say "You could move the needle a bit by doing (whatever)," all we get back is static. How long are we supposed to endure the silliness without saying anything?
That's an excellent question. But again, where did we say something, and how did we say something? In public, and a way that was not tone-neutral. Again, it's a set of double standards. We're reaching judgement not on the post, but on the poster. And even though most of people who have been "permanently separated" from our walled garden are pretty much broken, when they complain in other circles about unequal treatment, there's a grain of truth to that. We can be better than this.
Everyone is entitled to their own paradigm of what is distasteful and what isn't, and to comment and debate about it. They don't have the right to enforce their own position, but it is also up to us to put forth an effort to be considerate to most of the people most of the time.
Makes sense to me.
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Back to semi-sanity: according to this page (http://tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/tvn-day-search.pl?SID=20141019638092041&code=tvn&ShowYear=1986&ShowMonth=01&ShowDay=28), all of the networks had interrupted by 10:42 Central, four minutes after the explosion. None of the three networks had broadcast the launch live. All networks also showed the memorial service held on Friday from 12:30-1:30 PM Central.
And if you really care, all three networks carried the next shuttle launch on 9/29/88 live at 10:20 Central.
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And if you really care, all three networks carried the next shuttle launch on 9/29/88 live at 10:20 Central.
FINALLY! Now I can make some sense of my Daytime Win, Lose or Draw Index!
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In 1986, Press Your Luck would air on the local CBS affiliate in Detroit at 9:00 a.m. ET on weekdays until, unless I am mistaken, sometime in June. I remember the show that replaced Press Your Luck in the summer of 1986 - it was the syndicated game show The $1,000,000 Chance of a Lifetime, which moved from 7:00 p.m. ET (or 7:30 p.m. ET) to 9:00 a.m. ET. Replacing Chance was a local game show called Jackpot Bingo. Sounds like, by June 1986, the local CBS affiliate in Detroit was ready to drop Press Your Luck while the show had so little life left. And so they did.