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Title: Article: "8 Game Shows That Were Devastatingly Bad"
Post by: Matt Ottinger on September 29, 2014, 10:57:07 PM
More accurately, "The First Eight Shows We Could Think of Something Bad to Say About"

Another painfully bad example of this awful genre of list writing.  Starts out promising with its first two selections, before picking a bona fide success that has no business being on anybody's "worst" list, and then getting bogged down in newer shows and UK entries that were hardly worst-ever material either.

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2014/09/25/worst-game-shows-of-all-time
Title: Re: Article: "8 Game Shows That Were Devastatingly Bad"
Post by: clemon79 on September 29, 2014, 11:03:52 PM
I cannot say this content surprises me, coming from the same media umbrella that employs Nancy Grace.
Title: Re: Article: "8 Game Shows That Were Devastatingly Bad"
Post by: TLEberle on September 29, 2014, 11:10:19 PM
A previous acquaintance didn't care for $25,000 Pyramid for whatever reason. I cannot stand Dating Game or Newlywed Game, but I can recognize whatever cultural impact they had, either in longevity or in being the progenitor of the long form dating-reality format.

Entry number three is Scrabble, a show that lasted six years and was highly rated for some of it. I read the list so you don't have to. There is no new content or thinking there. Please, I entreat you, do not give them any more clicks so they can pull in ad money to create more content of this low level.
Title: Re: Article: "8 Game Shows That Were Devastatingly Bad"
Post by: PYLdude on September 29, 2014, 11:36:01 PM
Silly rabbit, article writing is for professionals.
Title: Re: Article: "8 Game Shows That Were Devastatingly Bad"
Post by: BrandonFG on September 29, 2014, 11:37:30 PM
I see a few familiar names already set the record straight about Scrabble. Like Matt said, that list could've been decent, but that's just lazy.

{shakes fist at BuzzFeed for popularizing this trend of cobbling a random number of random thoughts, and calling it an "article"}
Title: Re: Article: "8 Game Shows That Were Devastatingly Bad"
Post by: Fedya on September 30, 2014, 08:39:47 AM
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Another painfully bad example of this awful genre of list writing. 
At least it didn't fall into the trope of splitting the content between two pages, or worse, setting the content up as a slideshow list.
Title: Re: Article: "8 Game Shows That Were Devastatingly Bad"
Post by: aaron sica on September 30, 2014, 09:54:32 AM
or worse, setting the content up as a slideshow list.

The singlemost reason I instantly lose interest if one of the "lists" is housed at answers.com.
Title: Re: Article: "8 Game Shows That Were Devastatingly Bad"
Post by: Matt Ottinger on September 30, 2014, 11:50:52 AM
The singlemost reason I instantly lose interest if one of the "lists" is housed at answers.com.

I also avoid the answers.com ones, but mainly because, in this horribly genre, they distinguish themselves at being the absolute worst.  Not just bad choices, which is common, but really, really bad writing.

I decided to bring this list to our collective attention just because when I saw it, and saw that the first entry was Yahtzee, I held out the briefest of hopes that this could have been a decent, well-researched list.  I admit not being real familiar with the second choice, but thought it sounded pretty stupid as an idea.  Then the list went south in a hurry.
Title: Re: Article: "8 Game Shows That Were Devastatingly Bad"
Post by: clemon79 on September 30, 2014, 12:09:18 PM
I also avoid the answers.com ones, but mainly because, in this horribly genre, they distinguish themselves at being the absolute worst.  Not just bad choices, which is common, but really, really bad writing.

In the case of answers.com, that's because it's community-driven, though, isn't it? Any jackoff can write a listicle and get it published, and so any jackoff does?

This one's appalling because ostensibly this pinhead is actually drawing a paycheck.
Title: Re: Article: "8 Game Shows That Were Devastatingly Bad"
Post by: Matt Ottinger on September 30, 2014, 12:28:06 PM
I also avoid the answers.com ones, but mainly because, in this horribly genre, they distinguish themselves at being the absolute worst.  Not just bad choices, which is common, but really, really bad writing.

In the case of answers.com, that's because it's community-driven, though, isn't it? Any jackoff can write a listicle and get it published, and so any jackoff does?

This would be new information to me, but it would certainly explain a lot if true. 
Title: Re: Article: "8 Game Shows That Were Devastatingly Bad"
Post by: TLEberle on September 30, 2014, 01:49:03 PM
I admit not being real familiar with the second choice, but thought it sounded pretty stupid as an idea.  Then the list went south in a hurry.
"Harmless fluff" is a good explanation, and very charitable. The fact that harmless fluff charted on a list of worst ever when Moment of Truth, The Chamber and Set For Life are sitting on the bench is telling.

And yes, someone could quibble that they liked or even enjoyed any of that trio of awful television. That said, I don't think you can dig much farther down the hole of suckitude than where those three programs reside.
Title: Re: Article: "8 Game Shows That Were Devastatingly Bad"
Post by: DoorNumberFour on September 30, 2014, 04:20:34 PM
"Is it fun to watch people roll dice on a national television show? No. No, it isn't."

Of course it isn't.  (http://bp1.blogger.com/_xNO59OxlB8I/Rkv6Tk76u6I/AAAAAAAAA3I/2y4-pEwOe-E/s1600-h/hirollr2.jpg)
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Post by: BrandonFG on September 30, 2014, 04:20:42 PM
From what I remember, My Dad... was like a family version of American Gladiators, and both were hastily-compiled filler material during the 2007-08 Writer's Strike, when NBC decided to fill the lineup with more primetime game shows. For we geeks, it was an awesome idea, but it was also NBC.

The show wasn't terrible, it just wasn't much to write home about. Wiki says one of the contestants suffered a heart attack during taping, but I can't find any further evidence to confirm that.

Like Travis said, there were plenty of other options from that same time frame that I'd put in place of My Dad... one short-lived flop does not a worst game show make.
Title: Re: Article: "8 Game Shows That Were Devastatingly Bad"
Post by: TLEberle on September 30, 2014, 04:58:34 PM
A search for "Dan Cortese" will bring up a thread about the show; and reading it jogged my memory a little bit. It was absolutely innocuous filler, but also better than Three's a Crowd. I guess there's no longer just three shows fighting on the medal podium of suckery.
Title: Re: Article: "8 Game Shows That Were Devastatingly Bad"
Post by: PYLdude on September 30, 2014, 08:48:17 PM
"Is it fun to watch people roll dice on a national television show? No. No, it isn't."

Of course it isn't.  (http://bp1.blogger.com/_xNO59OxlB8I/Rkv6Tk76u6I/AAAAAAAAA3I/2y4-pEwOe-E/s1600-h/hirollr2.jpg)

Yeah, that was particularly badly chosen phrasing. Especially considering High Rollers made four separate series out of it (2 network, 2 syndicated).

So they obviously must've been doing something right, no? Especially considering that no High Rollers series made it to three years. (Always found that strange for some reason)
Title: Re: Article: "8 Game Shows That Were Devastatingly Bad"
Post by: Twentington on October 09, 2014, 06:45:37 PM
I cannot stand Dating Game or Newlywed Game, but I can recognize whatever cultural impact they had, either in longevity or in being the progenitor of the long form dating-reality format.

Not to mention the "70's kitsch" department. Exact reason I can't stomach the Barris shows.

And yeah, that is a hastily researched list. Scrabble was the exact moment I lost all cred in this list.
Title: Re: Article: "8 Game Shows That Were Devastatingly Bad"
Post by: whewfan on October 10, 2014, 05:50:21 AM
Scrabble?!!! REALLY????! The original Scrabble had a nice run, the revival of the show... not so much, because of the lower stakes involved, and I personally wasn't a fan of the new music. The set was okay.

With Yahtzee, it wasn't just that the dice rolling was a bit dull (although they DID make it a bit TOO easy to potentially get a Yahtzee, which is why the show went bankrupt) but the question writing was trying to be Match Game, and they didn't even come CLOSE. The questions had too many possible answers for a lot of matches.
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Post by: TLEberle on October 10, 2014, 12:17:51 PM
Scrabble?!!!
I don't know about anyone else but I'm reminded of the guy who went bonkers over the WB mascot, and not in a good way. (Protip: you only need one punctuation mark to convey your point.)

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With Yahtzee, it wasn't just that the dice rolling was a bit dull (although they DID make it a bit TOO easy to potentially get a Yahtzee, which is why the show went bankrupt)
Double fisted Shenanigans, Officer Barbrady.
Title: Re: Article: "8 Game Shows That Were Devastatingly Bad"
Post by: whewfan on October 10, 2014, 09:06:39 PM
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Yeah, that was particularly badly chosen phrasing. Especially considering High Rollers made four separate series out of it (2 network, 2 syndicated).

So they obviously must've been doing something right, no? Especially considering that no High Rollers series made it to three years. (Always found that strange for some reason)

High Rollers also had very well written questions and a fast pace. Trebek's High Rollers could've had a longer run, Wink's version was enjoyable too, but some of the mini games took too much time to play.
Title: Re: Article: "8 Game Shows That Were Devastatingly Bad"
Post by: TLEberle on October 10, 2014, 09:09:30 PM
but some of the mini games took too much time to play.
Such as?
Title: Re: Article: "8 Game Shows That Were Devastatingly Bad"
Post by: Mike Tennant on October 10, 2014, 09:30:34 PM
High Rollers also had very well written questions
Well, not every version did: http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/gshghp/Inside/High.html
Title: Re: Article: "8 Game Shows That Were Devastatingly Bad"
Post by: PYLdude on October 10, 2014, 11:41:10 PM
High Rollers also had very well written questions
Well, not every version did: http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/gshghp/Inside/High.html

Yeah, who the hell wrote those?
Title: Re: Article: "8 Game Shows That Were Devastatingly Bad"
Post by: The Ol' Guy on October 13, 2014, 06:20:37 PM
You gotta figure that any piece like this is 99% opinion, because often these writers are either too young or not willing to do some research on shows that were truly disasters. And by that, we could possibly all agree that any show that lasted less than 13 weeks daytime or less than 5 or 10 shows in prime time truly fit the term disaster, such as Back That Fact or 100 Grand. If the writer is not using time frames as a criteria, it boils down to shows he thought were bad...and all of us have our own lists of those, which would probably make for a more entertaining article than this one.