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Title: Pyramid question
Post by: Twentington on June 28, 2014, 06:19:44 AM
Has anyone ever skipped right over a WC box as soon as it came up because they just couldn't think of a clue for it? I know I've seen some doozies up there now and then, and I can totally see someone insta-skipping because they're thinking, "how the pluperfect hell am I gonna give a clue for THAT?!"

(Of course, this could lead to the awkard situation of having gotten the other five boxes, then getting stuck with the one you can't think of a clue on…)
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: aaron sica on June 28, 2014, 06:49:55 AM
I wish I could cite a specific example but I believe I saw Melody Thomas (Scott) do it on her week with Roger E. Mosley on the $25K that just aired on GSN recently..
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: TLEberle on June 28, 2014, 11:51:17 AM
Has anyone ever skipped right over a WC box as soon as it came up because they just couldn't think of a clue for it? I know I've seen some doozies up there now and then, and I can totally see someone insta-skipping because they're thinking, "how the pluperfect hell am I gonna give a clue for THAT?!"

(Of course, this could lead to the awkard situation of having gotten the other five boxes, then getting stuck with the one you can't think of a clue on…)
no, because it would be terrible strategy.
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: Matt Ottinger on June 28, 2014, 12:10:36 PM
no, because it would be terrible strategy.

That's why you wouldn't do it.  Doesn't mean it never happened.

Did it happen?  Sure, I can remember it happening.  Lots of times.  Want me to tell you that it happened on May 5th, 1979 in the first game when the blond starlet skipped the fifth box?  Sorry, that's what I have you guys for.
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: Jimmy Owen on June 28, 2014, 12:16:31 PM
no, because it would be terrible strategy.

That's why you wouldn't do it.  Doesn't mean it never happened.

Did it happen?  Sure, I can remember it happening.  Lots of times.  Want me to tell you that it happened on May 5th, 1979 in the first game when the blond starlet skipped the fifth box?  Sorry, that's what I have you guys for.

Everyone is an expert on something.  Henry Ford said it best, paraphasing.  "I don't know everything, but I surround myself with people who do."
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: TLEberle on June 28, 2014, 12:20:33 PM
Want me to tell you that it happened on May 5th, 1979 in the first game when the blond starlet skipped the fifth box? 
Only if Pyramid had a weekend edition.

/every once in a while WolframAlpha comes through in the clutch.
//that seems like the kind of thing I'd remember, but I haven't seen a GSN rerun since 2012.
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: Eric Paddon on June 28, 2014, 12:36:12 PM
I remember it happening in a 1978 episode in the Jamie Lee Curtis week where her ignorance of one of the most basic stories of the Bible cost a contestant $10,000.   The middle box of the first row, ordinarily one of the simplest, was "What Would Jonah Say?"   She just passed it in a split second, cleared all the other boxes with about five seconds or so to spare and was still mute when it came back to that one and Dick had to give her a basic lesson about the guy swallowed by a whale.
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: Jimmy Owen on June 28, 2014, 01:06:17 PM
Didn't JoAnn Worley have a habit of saying "Turn it...." ?
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: thomas_meighan on June 28, 2014, 02:54:30 PM
I recall a 1978 episode (rerun on GSN) where the category was "Lina Wertmuller Movies". Don't recall who the celeb was, but I think he/she skipped it before coming back to it and struggling to think of any clues to give.
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: Matt Ottinger on June 28, 2014, 03:22:32 PM
Want me to tell you that it happened on May 5th, 1979 in the first game when the blond starlet skipped the fifth box? 
Only if Pyramid had a weekend edition.

I had a five in seven shot.  Sue me.
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: TLEberle on June 28, 2014, 04:51:09 PM
I apologize for violating the cardinal rule of improvisation. That's ttotally my bad.
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: Esoteric Eric on June 28, 2014, 09:42:44 PM
Didn't JoAnn Worley have a habit of saying "Turn it...." ?
Yes, although she would also say that after providing unsuccessful clues in a category.

/ Likewise, Jimmie Walker with "Movin' on..."
// RASH ASSUMPTION: That the crew eventually quickened their response time when these phrases were used (rather than the more popular "Next" and / or "Pass") by these celebs (and others; didn't Nipsey have an alternative?)
///Or did the crew have to wait for Messrs. Clark, Cullen, Davidson, Osmond or Richards to say "Next"?
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: Twentington on June 28, 2014, 10:30:14 PM
I recall a 1978 episode (rerun on GSN) where the category was "Lina Wertmuller Movies". Don't recall who the celeb was, but I think he/she skipped it before coming back to it and struggling to think of any clues to give.

Wow. I looked at her Wikipedia article and I don't recognize a single title. (But I'm willing to chalk this up to generation gap and my super-limited movie knowledge.)
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: Eric Paddon on June 28, 2014, 10:38:47 PM
She was basically a female Ingmar Bergman, a foreign director whose films were popular in the arthouse circuit in those days.

That category actually got used a second time in 1978 and amazingly, the contestant got it which earned her a special plaudit from Dick post-game even though she didn't get to the top of the board.
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: gameboy2000 on June 29, 2014, 05:38:17 AM
I remember one time on the 80s Pyramid one of the clues in the winners' circle was "Unlucky Things" and the celebrity skipped over it. When it was the last one left, the celebrity just sat there in silence unable to come up with any thing. In another one, Smokey Robinson immediately passed on "Short Things" but time ran out before he could get back to it.
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: PYLdude on June 29, 2014, 05:45:16 AM
I remember one time on the 80s Pyramid one of the clues in the winners' circle was "Unlucky Things" and the celebrity skipped over it. When it was the last one left, the celebrity just sat there in silence unable to come up with any thing. In another one, Smokey Robinson immediately passed on "Short Things" but time ran out before he could get back to it.

Example 1: how can you not come up with a decent clue? Thirteen, broken mirrors, black cats, spilled salt.

Example 2: okay, that's a little understandable. Short things you might require a little extra thought with.
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: nowhammies10 on June 29, 2014, 09:16:39 AM
Example 2: okay, that's a little understandable. Short things you might require a little extra thought with.

First thing that came to mind (may not have been out at the time, but): Randy Newman's People.

Ninja edit: Came out in '77.
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: PYLdude on June 29, 2014, 09:25:37 AM
Example 2: okay, that's a little understandable. Short things you might require a little extra thought with.

First thing that came to mind (may not have been out at the time, but): Randy Newman's People.

Ninja edit: Came out in '77.

Yes, but with the pressure on one might not instantly have that come to them.

Definitiveness aside. :)
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: BillCullen1 on June 29, 2014, 01:08:06 PM
I remember in the 70s on ABC with Robert Mandan in the WC. The third box on the bottom was BARRY MANILOW SONGS. After about two seconds, Mandan said "pass." Don't remember if he got back to it.
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: Eric Paddon on June 30, 2014, 01:31:08 PM
I can also remember Mandan in the 80s getting flummoxed for five seconds with "Democrats" before moving on without having given a single clue.
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: Twentington on June 30, 2014, 09:52:50 PM
I forget: was there an insta-pass, or something close to it, on the one episode where Tom Poston received and his contestant ended up earning $0?
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: BillCullen1 on June 30, 2014, 09:56:22 PM
I forget: was there an insta-pass, or something close to it, on the one episode where Tom Poston received and his contestant ended up earning $0? 

Yes that did happen. GSN has aired that episode.
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: chad1m on June 30, 2014, 10:25:31 PM
I forget: was there an insta-pass, or something close to it, on the one episode where Tom Poston received and his contestant ended up earning $0?
There was not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFyVrGOsVEg
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: Twentington on July 01, 2014, 02:48:19 AM
Chad: Thanks for the refresher; I couldn't find the clip. She did come pretty close a couple times, though.
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: SuperSweeper on July 02, 2014, 04:24:17 PM
Here's another good example of a no-clue pass, from the 2nd Davidson episode.  Clifton Davis gets a little flustered during the first WC:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3E7Cf7NvpE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3E7Cf7NvpE)
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: Twentington on July 03, 2014, 03:52:35 PM
Almost happened again in the second WC on "Why You Sign a Contract", too.

"I was gonna say 'because you don't wanna get screwed by your boss', but you can't say that on TV, can you?" *ding* I lol'd.
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: Phil V on August 21, 2014, 03:55:05 AM
Has anyone ever skipped right over a WC box as soon as it came up because they just couldn't think of a clue for it? I know I've seen some doozies up there now and then, and I can totally see someone insta-skipping because they're thinking, "how the pluperfect hell am I gonna give a clue for THAT?!"

(Of course, this could lead to the awkard situation of having gotten the other five boxes, then getting stuck with the one you can't think of a clue on…)
no, because it would be terrible strategy.

How is that a terrible strategy?  Say your score to beat is $800, and you've cleared the first four categories.  Why not immediately skip the $250 box to get as much time in for the $300 box to, at the very least, tie, instead of playing out the $250 box and risking a loss by $50?
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: TLEberle on August 21, 2014, 04:19:10 AM
As opposed to playing the 250 on the way to winning the $10,000? We've dealt with this question before, I don't remember where.
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: Kevin Prather on August 21, 2014, 03:59:48 PM
As opposed to playing the 250 on the way to winning the $10,000? We've dealt with this question before, I don't remember where.
It's not a terrible point though. To get the $10k, you need to get them both anyway, and although they're supposed to be of increasing difficulty, that doesn't always prove to be true. Since you need them both for the money, why not play the $300 first to give yourself a net?
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: BrandonFG on August 21, 2014, 07:37:01 PM
If I'm ever a Pyramid contestant and I make the Winner's Circle, I'm giving the clues, no questions asked.

With that in mind, let's go with pHvHounds' scenario, where I need $800 to tie, and I'm having a rough WC. I have :15 to nail the last two categories, and the chances of winning $10K are pretty slim. Since I'll already know my mission going into the Circle, doing an immediate skip to to the top spot is not a bad idea, as long as I can remember to utilize that strategy under pressure.

I'd much rather want to go into the final box tied, as opposed to being down $50 and now banking on pulling a miracle out my rear.
Title: Re: Pyramid question
Post by: TLEberle on August 21, 2014, 10:20:49 PM
I get the point, and I would say that in the single instance that Dick Clark told you "Hurry, Brandon! Hurry!" that you leapfrog the one in order to salvage a tie. The point I'm making is that your partner is assuming that you're going to try to give clues to the topic that comes up and not to look at the box bug-eyed, blurt out "Pass! and move on to the next, that you're going to at least have a go. This goes back to the question of why not pass on the 50, rack up $1,000 in score money and then pick off the last easy one with the remaining seconds: your partner is expecting you to lead the dance, and every time you do something against convention that's unexpected, you end up stomping each others's feet, instead of doing it the normal way and working your way to the $10,000.

A final note to Brandon's point: will you remember your tactical bit with time running down? We talk lots about the lights and music and money and pressure, and I'll go to that most learned individual, Mike Tyson, who said "everyone has a plan until they get hit in the mouth". You don't get to look at the clock, and if you do it means you're taking your concentration away from the task at hand.