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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: pacdude on April 29, 2014, 06:33:34 PM
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Prepping him for the real deal, maybe?
http://www.chieftain.com/sports/2515194-120/jeopardy-sports-crackle-game
"Sony Pictures said Tuesday that “Sports Jeopardy!” will begin this fall on Crackle, a Sony-owned digital service available on mobile devices and services such as PlayStation, Xbox, Apple TV and Roku. Crackle general manager Eric Berger says the sports-themed game show will diversify programming on the service, best known for the Jerry Seinfeld comedy shorts series “Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee.”"
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First-run game shows on streaming services. Honestly, I wasn't sure I would see the day. Or at least not this soon. :)
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I said last fall that House of Cards' Emmy nomination was a game changer, in a way. But streaming game shows, I'm here for that. Now, if you'll excuse me, I must look up the corporate address for Crackle and put together a few proposals. ;-P
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Now, if you'll excuse me, I must look up the corporate address for Crackle and put together a few proposals. ;-P
I know, right?
Two thoughts about this right now:
-I wonder what changes. I can't imagine that having a web-only show that gives out tens of thousands of dollars 5 times a week is a sustainable business model.
-I also wonder how the Battle of the Decades and the uploading of Classic episodes played into this, if at all
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Re: Possible format
They could go the R&R J! approach -- play for points, winner either gets a flat grand prize amount (say, $5,000 or $10,000), a sports-themed prize package (similar to the "ESPN vacations" offered to winners on "2-Minute Drill") or convert the points to prize money for the winner.
It's also not clear how many episodes are being produced, let alone how many new episodes will be offered per week.
JD
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My guess is play for points and offer a flat prize a la Rock and Roll Jeopardy!* Either that or a sports "fantasy package", along the lines of a bunch of tickets to your favorite team's games or a trip to spring training like the 90s ESPN games used to offer.
*That was weekly, no?
ETA: Great minds think alike...looks like James and I had virtually the same exact idea...at nearly the same exact time. :-)
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ESPN once had Sports Jeopardy! on its website.
Brian
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ESPN once had Sports Jeopardy! on its website.
Did it now.
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Now, if you'll excuse me, I must look up the corporate address for Crackle and put together a few proposals. ;-P
I know, right?
Two thoughts about this right now:
-I wonder what changes. I can't imagine that having a web-only show that gives out tens of thousands of dollars 5 times a week is a sustainable business model.
-I also wonder how the Battle of the Decades and the uploading of Classic episodes played into this, if at all
According to this it'll be a weekly show, apparently with a 52-ep commitment at first...
http://m.deadline.com/2014/04/jerry-seinfeld-comedians-in-cars-getting-coffee-renewal-crackle/
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I'm impressed by the initial commitment. I was expecting a 10 episode "let's see how this goes" sort of thing at first.
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Crackle is owned by Sony, so it is no coincidence that they went with one of their existing properties to get some eyeballs to the site.
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They released more information. Each game, the winner will receive $5,000, second place $2,000, third place $1,000.
http://sportsjeopardy.azurewebsites.net/download-about.pdf (http://sportsjeopardy.azurewebsites.net/download-about.pdf)
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ESPN once had Sports Jeopardy! on its website.
Brian
Which was an online game based on the jeopardy.com version. Not the same idea.
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There was also information posted on auditions for the show. Current plans are auditions in five locations in June or July ...
http://sportsjeopardy.azurewebsites.net/download-sample.pdf
The site also says that former J! contestants are eligible to play Sports J!.
JD
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They released more information. Each game, the winner will receive $5,000, second place $2,000, third place $1,000.
http://sportsjeopardy.azurewebsites.net/download-about.pdf (http://sportsjeopardy.azurewebsites.net/download-about.pdf)
And the three highest scorers will come back at the end of the season for a $50,000 two-game playoff as well...
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I didn't see anything specifically stating this, but I'm wondering if a contestant on the sports version would still be eligible for the main show.
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The general Eligibility rules for Jeopardy! states that if you were ever on a version of Jeopardy! hosted by Alex Trebek, you're ineligible.
Which is why that's my next try. Bob Bergen is no Alex Trebek.
/even though he's amazing.
//he introduced my senior portfolio.
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They released more information. Each game, the winner will receive $5,000, second place $2,000, third place $1,000.
http://sportsjeopardy.azurewebsites.net/download-about.pdf (http://sportsjeopardy.azurewebsites.net/download-about.pdf)
And the three highest scorers will come back at the end of the season for a $50,000 two-game playoff as well...
That's a great way to make the wagering matter in a runaway game!
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How many people would forego a guaranteed $5,000 for the chance at a further $50k (and that's all it would be; a chance) while jeopardizing their sure $5,000!
/realized that Jay's point wasn't about the championship, but the method of entry!
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How many people would forego a guaranteed $5,000 for the chance at a further $50k (and that's all it would be; a chance) while jeopardizing their sure $5,000!
The same number of them that would subsequently be in my kitchen.
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They're only risking $4,000 of the $5,000. Setting that aside, it would depend on how public the scores are during taping. If a contestant knew how much he had to wager to enter the leader-board, and he was one in of the last games taped, he might consider that to be a worthy gamble. Without that information, one would likely not enter into such a Jeopardy!
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How many people would forego a guaranteed $5,000 for the chance at a further $50k (and that's all it would be; a chance) while jeopardizing their sure $5,000!
/realized that Jay's point wasn't about the championship, but the method of entry!
Don't fully underestimate the idea. I can't speak for wagering but can and will for taking gambles you might not necessarily consider.
If I'm there and I've got a good enough lead where I can play with my points and still walk with the top prize if I get it wrong, I'm probably gonna take the gamble and try to improve my position as much as I feel I can without jeopardizing my chance to win, knowing that I might also be in the running for something better.
I would also need to be fairly certain that I knew the subject well enough. Can't forget that.
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If I'm there and I've got a good enough lead where I can play with my points and still walk with the top prize if I get it wrong, I'm probably gonna take the gamble and try to improve my position as much as I feel I can without jeopardizing my chance to win, knowing that I might also be in the running for something better.
But that's not very interesting.
The situation I think Jay was imagining is a contestant who has the win locked up and can vault onto the leaderboard with a big bet and a correct response in FJ; but if he's wrong he stands to lose the game entirely. No mention was made of what the championship runners-up would take home, so that can't enter into the discussion as yet. If this was done privately ("And for everyone at home here's what the leaderboard looks like after this game") I think it becomes much more interesting an exercise.
I forgot the part where there's fifty regular season games. I didn't care for it when Hollywood Squares did that during their tournaments, I don't care for it here.
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I will definitely sign up for an audition...if and when they make that info available.
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I will definitely sign up for an audition...if and when they make that info available.
http://www.crackle.com/outreach/sportsjeopardy/
As mentioned before, they've already announced the following audition sites for June and July -- NYC/Philly, Chicago, Dallas, Las Vegas and Los Angeles. The wording seems to suggest that other audition sites are a possibility but not definite (surprised there's no audition site in the sports-crazed Southeast).
JD
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I will definitely sign up for an audition...if and when they make that info available.
http://www.crackle.com/outreach/sportsjeopardy/
Redirects to crackle.com main. Hence my point.
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Redirects to crackle.com main. Hence my point.
Maybe on your device: I didn't have any problem getting to the relevant page.
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Redirects to crackle.com main. Hence my point.
Maybe on your device: I didn't have any problem getting to the relevant page.
Probably it. Will need to dig out the compy for this one.
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And done...we'll see where this leads.
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The situation I think Jay was imagining is a contestant who has the win locked up and can vault onto the leaderboard with a big bet and a correct response in FJ; but if he's wrong he stands to lose the game entirely. No mention was made of what the championship runners-up would take home, so that can't enter into the discussion as yet.
Even still, why would you give up $5,000 (or $4,000) that you've already got locked up for a tourney slot when you presumably won't know how much you even need to get in? I only say presumably because after 30 years of tournaments, I wouldn't see why the Jeopardy staff would ever give contestants in later games that distinct advantage.
This could be really interesting in that contestants who stand pat in runaway games could very well lose out to contestants who play high scoring, yet close games and need to bet the farm to win.
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Even still, why would you give up $5,000 (or $4,000) that you've already got locked up for a tourney slot when you presumably won't know how much you even need to get in?
The same reason anybody would ever give up any sure thing to see what's behind Curtain #2.
Plus, if you're good enough to rack up a runaway in Sports Jeopardy!, there's good reason to believe you'll have a better-than-average chance to get the Sports Final! right, or at least you'll have an idea once you know whether the category is in your wheelhouse.
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I just find those choices peculiar. Why not allow carryover champions, and have the nine top scorers return? Or have it as a full-fledged tournament.
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I just find those choices peculiar. Why not allow carryover champions, and have the nine top scorers return? Or have it as a full-fledged tournament.
Because it's a weekly series, for the first question.
I would assume they want to give as many people as they can an opportunity to qualify. I think it's strange to have a three man end of season tourney but I can see the point as well.
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My question would be where will this originate from and does DP want to add a lengthy commute to his current duties. Of course this was already decided and he weighed the idea before accepting. And Jeopardy and its spinoffs have taken place in Culver City since the '90s. But he's based in Connecticut, does his show live from Connecticut, and doesn't travel much further than NYC for the most part these days (except when necessary). And there's been the recent trend of having shows (Springer, Maury, Steve Wilkos, syndie DOND, Millionaire) moving production to Connecticut...not saying that means anything but it wouldn't surprise me to see the show be produced on the east coast.
(Wasn't the IBM challenge filmed in New York? I figure that set built for it might still be there somewhere)
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My question would be where will this originate from and does DP want to add a lengthy commute to his current duties.
What's going to be interesting is topicality, because they could conceivably knock out 52 episodes in two weeks of taping, but for a sports show if they completely ignore current events in the name of doing that it's gonna get stale really fast.
Considering how many other shows are setting up shop in CT, and that this is a web series and therefore probably not shooting on a big-league-J! budget, it would not surprise me if they did build a set there.
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My question would be where will this originate from and does DP want to add a lengthy commute to his current duties.
What's going to be interesting is topicality, because they could conceivably knock out 52 episodes in two weeks of taping, but for a sports show if they completely ignore current events in the name of doing that it's gonna get stale really fast.
If the samples were any indication, I don't think they're gonna strictly focus on historical data- but that's just blindassed speculation.
Although just the same I wouldn't be surprised that they'd try and squeeze the episodes into as short a frame as they can. Because of the commitments Dan has at NBC. Which leads me even more down the path of the idea of an east coast origin.
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Another possibility in regards to taping is film the 50 "preliminary games" over a two-week period in August in Culver City (five games per tape day). Dan could take a two-week "vacation" from his radio show (or do it at his Los Angeles affiliate) during this time, and it gets the episodes down ahead of the first "Football Night in America" telecast.
Following the Super Bowl (I believe NBC has the SB next season), film the two-episode championship in February.
JD
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Another possibility in regards to taping is film the 50 "preliminary games" over a two-week period in August in Culver City (five games per tape day).
Lord, I hope not. Missing out on an entire NFL season and MLB postseason worth of possible topical content? That's gonna be laaa-aame.
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I don't think Million Pound Drop levels of questioning is feasible, but there has to be a middle ground.
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My question would be where will this originate from and does DP want to add a lengthy commute to his current duties.
What's going to be interesting is topicality, because they could conceivably knock out 52 episodes in two weeks of taping, but for a sports show if they completely ignore current events in the name of doing that it's gonna get stale really fast.
Considering how many other shows are setting up shop in CT, and that this is a web series and therefore probably not shooting on a big-league-J! budget, it would not surprise me if they did build a set there.
They could stage it on the old Million Second Quiz set in NYC. That won't be getting any use this fall.
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I don't think Million Pound Drop levels of questioning is feasible, but there has to be a middle ground.
I don't see how they can't maintain J's level of newishness. Plus I can't imagine it'll be all bookkeeping trivia
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http://www.sportsjeopardytickets.com
Tapings supposedly will be on weekends beginning in August.
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And, more interestingly, taping out of LA. Guess Dan's gonna be commuting a little.
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Where does it say it will be taping outside of L.A.? It doesn't say that anywhere.
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Where does it say it will be taping outside of L.A.?
Taping "out of" L.A. Meaning "from." As in, "I'm sending this electronic message out of my house to tell you to try to please comprehend better."
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In his defense, I can see that post being misinterpreted if you're not familiar with the not-really-but-maybe-a-little-slangy "out of" part.
(That said, the followup sentence should have provided more than a bit of context.)
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Looking at that pic of the Jeopardy! set, I must say I like it a lot more with the pillared backdrop. It adds a "collegiate" presence IMO.
Taping out of in L.A. does and doesn't surprise me. I know Sony's base is in Culver City, and that Wheel/Jeopardy! tape there, but it still surprises me given Dan's being on the East Coast.
That being said, it makes sense if the Sports Jeopardy! crew members come from the mothership (esp. if the shows tape on the same lot), as opposed to having to get a new crew ready in NYC or CT, or worse, paying for everyone to travel cross-country, esp. if there's already other tournaments. Paying for a host to commute is a much better option than paying for dozens of production staff.
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And not that I would consider it a negative, but I imagine the show will modify the current J! set, rather than use most of its own parts, like Rock & Roll Jeopardy did.
-Jason
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http://www.sportsjeopardytickets.com
Even though it appears just to be a link repository, I'm skeptical of a website that looks like should be on Geocities.
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http://www.sportsjeopardytickets.com
Even though it appears just to be a link repository, I'm skeptical of a website that looks like should be on Geocities.
Jeopardytickets.tv is laid out the same way.
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http://www.sportsjeopardytickets.com
Even though it appears just to be a link repository, I'm skeptical of a website that looks like should be on Geocities.
Yeah, got a real "1997" vibe out of that site too. Especially with the animated GIFs.
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Jeopardytickets.tv is laid out the same way.
Since it's the same guy's audience-filling company (Select Audiences), this is not surprising.
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Premieres Sept 24th, with new eps being released every Wednesday- there will also be a play-along app available for $0.99.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/dan-patricks-jeopardy-spinoff-gets-726554
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Click the following link for some set pictures of the show:
http://deadspin.com/heres-what-the-sports-jeopardy-set-will-look-like-1624957655
Apparently, the show will use six categories, and only four clues per category in each round.
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Why the hell are they shortening the board, he wonders, expecting to be severely unimpressed by the reasoning.
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Why the hell are they shortening the board, he wonders, expecting to be severely unimpressed by the reasoning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACagBk4TMAg
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I do appreciate the way that the scoreboard is used to do shout-outs to important sporting history. Simple but fun.
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I do appreciate the way that the scoreboard is used to do shout-outs to important sporting history. Simple but fun.
I was wondering whether there was significance involved with that...finding out what two of the dates were is pretty cool.
Love the set. I'm guessing that's simply the main Jeopardy! board with the baseball scoreboard simply covering the bottom row?