TV News Check says so...though even they don\'t seem to be SURE SURE...
http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/65152/cedric-looks-to-be-new-millionaire-host
\\too obvious a joke?
This oughta be interesting. Wouldn\'t be my first choice (nor I\'m sure a fair majority of the populace here), but who knows?
If you look at what Steve Harvey has done with Feud ratings and want to model your show after that, then Cedric is a natural choice.
/Let\'s try C, ding-dong. Final answer.
Disney-ABC meeting room:
\"Okay, Feud\'s doing amazing, and we\'re holding flat, what do we do?\"
\"Return to our roots as a serious quizzer?\"
\"No! It\'s all the penises that make Feud popular!\"
\"First, let\'s get a large black man as the host, who likes to wear suits\"
\"Done.\"
\"Oh! At least three questions in each stack will be about the \'schlong\' or \'Uranus\'.\"
\"That got laughs last time!\"
\"Let\'s rename the lifeline to \'Stroke the Audeince\'\"
\"Done. What Else?\"
\"2 words: Crystal Balls\"
\"It\'s going to be the best season yet!\"
I\'m quite certain that Cedric isn\'t really going to get the job, but as I said, it\'s interesting that his name is being tossed around here.
I mean, would Cedric be in anyone\'s top 40, much less top two or three?
And if they keep the current format, after each right answer, he could ask, \"It\'s worth WHA-A-AT?\"
Do we really need another game show hosted by a comedian? This show is about the contestant (one without the obligatory sob story), and not the host. True, there are times when Feud is just about as much about the comedic host than the families, but Millionaire is not the place for it.
\"Okay, Feud\'s doing amazing, and we\'re holding flat, what do we do?\"\"Return to our roots as a serious quizzer?\"
\"No! It\'s all the penises that make Feud popular!\"
\"First, let\'s get a large black man as the host, who likes to wear suits\"
\"Done.\"
\"Oh! At least three questions in each stack will be about the \'schlong\' or \'Uranus\'.\"
\"That got laughs last time!\"
\"Let\'s rename the lifeline to \'Stroke the Audeince\'\"
\"Done. What Else?\"
\"2 words: Crystal Balls\"
\"It\'s going to be the best season yet!\"
\"We could add a \"Shoot the Wad\" lifeline, there the contestant plays for \'double or nothing\'. Unfortunately, it could be only be used once a show -- there is no way we can do that twice in 30-minutes.\"
\"And the displaying of the Money Ladder just doesn\'t look right any more...Any Ideas?\"
\"Let\'s make the money graphics look cylindrical and then invert the level progression starting at the top and working down...We\'ll call it the Money Pole!!!\"
Everyone has summed up my thoughts. Just because Steve has Feud getting its best numbers since the Combs era is not a reason to go after his sitcom and movie co-star. Granted, nobody here has seen Cedric host, but Millionaire is not the type of show where a comedian really shines.
Steve can cut up on a sexual question or dumb answer because that\'s what Feud is known for (well the latter, I should say). A serious trivia game that offers a million dollars isn\'t the place for Cedric The Entertainer*.
*Yes, I know Jeff Foxxworthy hosted Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader. I\'d like to think the format there was a little looser; Millionaire is better structured IMO.
Granted, nobody here has seen Cedric host
Well, the numbers for It\'s Worth What? were pretty terrible, but surely somebody here saw it.
I\'d like to see the show go back to the original format. Cedric as host will get better demos and more clearances than the show is currently getting. Expand the show to an hour and there will be enough time for Cedric to do his thing and get a couple of games in.
9/10. Some of your better work.
And if they keep the current format, after each right answer, he could ask, \"It\'s worth WHA-A-AT?\"
DING
Because all new game show hosts must be former comedians now...as others said, Feud is a different case. And it works for \"party\" games like the CBS Daytime Two. This? Not so much. Plus I am not a big fan of the trend of comedians/out-of-work \'90s sitcom stars being tapped as game show hosts. I guess there\'s not so much of a demand for dedicated GS hosts now, though.
Just replace \"dedicated game show host\" with \"dedicated broadcaster/journalist\", considering so many hosts started there. It is interesting how so many became career hosts later in life (i.e. Wink or Chuck Woolery). James does raise a good point in that it seems that for standup comics, game show is the new 90s sitcom. And like sitcoms of that era, some have done quite well (Howie, Jeff F.), others haven\'t taken off yet (Cedric with \"It\'s Worth What?\", Kevin Pollak).
For a tough trivia game, I gotta admit, I do feel someone with a background similar to Meredith\'s works better. But I\'m always willing to give a newcomer benefit of the doubt. I\'ve been pleasantly surprised before.
*Must devise a concept that allows for two hosts...that way I can get The Two Matts from here to co-host, a la Ant and Dec
Comedian or not, they shouldn\'t try to ham it up a la Richard Karn.
How silly of me, me trying to create those pesky argots. I should do something more constructive, civil, and socially acceptable, like work on smarmy replies to other people\'s posts.
Anyway, about Meredith: well yeah, she\'s someone who wound up fitting in the role. I never undermined her as a \"real\" game show host. What I mean is, it just seems nowadays there\'s not a talent pool for people who became, or wanted to become, known as game show hosts first. Not surprising, since the genre is not as \"big\" as it was in the \'70s and \'80s. Back then, you knew you could go to a place where you\'d usually have people like Bill, Tom, Bob, Wink, etc. to rely on. Now, people go outside into other entertainment forms first. Sometimes it works, sometimes not so much, as I\'m sure it has all along. And I KNOW it\'s been done even in the \"glory days,\" heck, everyone has to come from somewhere. But it just seems more noticeable now. And it seems that they ALWAYS go for the comedians and/or big names now.
If Mr. Entertainer (if that IS his real name ;-)) ends up on Millionaire, he might do a good job. Who knows? But at the least he\'ll have the stigma of his comedic persona, and that might turn viewers off thinking the show is going to become a clown show. Which HAS happened to other programs, see: Engvall + Lingo, and Harvey + Feud (though I excuse the latter, as Feud has always been a party show, and always had comedians at the helm)
How silly of me, me trying to create those pesky argots. I should do something more constructive, civil, and socially acceptable, like work on smarmy replies to other people\'s posts.
You know, I\'d have the slightest empathy for your plight if you hadn\'t been trying to do the exact same thing for years now and been told it\'s annoying every single time. This isn\'t Variety, it doesn\'t make you look like an insider, it makes you look pathetic.
Which HAS happened to other programs, see: Engvall + Lingo, and Harvey + Feud (though I excuse the latter, as Feud has always been a party show, and always had comedians at the helm)
Except that the Engvall version of Lingo had much bigger problems than turning it into a comedy game, and Harvey has been doing the exact opposite of turning people away, the show hasn\'t been this popular in years.
It\'s hard to generalize (though you seem to have no problem doing so), but I can\'t imagine fans of Millionaire being turned off of the show just because the new host happens to have stand-up comedy as one of his skills. \"Stigma\"? Please.
I\'d like to see the show go back to the original format. Cedric as host will get better demos and more clearances than the show is currently getting. Expand the show to an hour and there will be enough time for Cedric to do his thing and get a couple of games in.
Said no one, ever.
Let\'s look at it this way. If Cedric becomes host, he and Steve can have a Steve Harvey Show (the sitcom) reunion in daytime!
Article from the NY Post suggesting from an \"unnamed source\" that WWTBAM was looking for a \"Steve Harvey type\" all along, and that Cedric, if he takes the job, won\'t be making Meredith money...
http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/million_bargain_tKfv6K6H4joo9eqvCndcMO
and that Cedric, if he takes the job, won\'t be making Meredith money...
I\'m shocked, I tell you. Shocked. Look at how shocked I am ---> :|
I\'m asking because I really don\'t know. Has Cedric done anything successful in TV in a lead role?
Even with a drop in ratings (I can\'t see him increasing them. Though I see why they think they can replicate Feud\'s ratings, by getting a black comedian. The novelty of Feud\'s success will burn out at some point, due to the risque nature no longer being fresh), the show will still be ahead several million dollars.
Because all new game show hosts must be former comedians now...as others said, Feud is a different case. And it works for \"party\" games like the CBS Daytime Two. This? Not so much. Plus I am not a big fan of the trend of comedians/out-of-work \'90s sitcom stars being tapped as game show hosts. I guess there\'s not so much of a demand for dedicated GS hosts now, though.
To some extent, you can swap out the \"game show\" genre for \"animation\" now as well. Look at all the major animated TV shows and movies that come out, and how nearly every significant spoken part is done by a famous celebrity, comedian, or A-/B-list star. There are still a few prominent go-to \"voice actors\" that are not household names, but it\'s not in the proportions like it was 20-30+ years ago.
I\'m asking because I really don\'t know. Has Cedric done anything successful in TV in a lead role?
No, his only really notable TV roles that come close to fitting your criteria are (this will utterly shock you) the second banana on The Steve Harvey Show and a year with his own sketch comedy show on Fox.
Well, he DID play a successful lead role...in a Bud Light ad or two...
I\'m asking because I really don\'t know. Has Cedric done anything successful in TV in a lead role?
No, his only really notable TV roles that come close to fitting your criteria are (this will utterly shock you) the second banana on The Steve Harvey Show and a year with his own sketch comedy show on Fox.
Yes, he has. Don\'t know what your definition of successful or notable is, but he is currently starring in the original TV Land sitcom \"The Soul Man\", which will be starting it\'s second season in June. http://www.tvland.com/shows/the-soul-man
Two seasons does not a success equal. AfterMASH says \"sup\".
Two seasons does not a success equal. AfterMASH says \"sup\".
\"Chappelle\'s Show\" would like to have a word with you.
Isn\'t he one of the \"Kings of Comedy\" - that had a successful tour over the years?
Look, he\'s a comic. He\'s appealing to some demographics. He\'s got a decent Q score. This is why he\'s being considered for a plum daytime role.
Isn\'t he one of the \"Kings of Comedy\" - that had a successful tour over the years?
Yes. Had a damn funny act too.
Isn\'t he one of the \"Kings of Comedy\" - that had a successful tour over the years?Yes. Had a damn funny act too.
He was very funny in the bit part he had in the Coen Brothers\' \"Intolerable Cruelty\". Love me some Gus! #imgonnanailyourass
And apparently now, it\'s official:
And apparently now, it\'s official:
Where in that article does it say ANYTHING official?
Don\'t get me wrong, it may well be, but there isn\'t a shred of actual definitive proof to be found there.
And apparently now, it\'s official:
\"I hear\" =! official.
Which HAS happened to other programs, see: Engvall + Lingo, and Harvey + Feud (though I excuse the latter, as Feud has always been a party show, and always had comedians at the helm)
Except that the Engvall version of Lingo had much bigger problems than turning it into a comedy game, and Harvey has been doing the exact opposite of turning people away, the show hasn\'t been this popular in years.
It\'s hard to generalize (though you seem to have no problem doing so), but I can\'t imagine fans of Millionaire being turned off of the show just because the new host happens to have stand-up comedy as one of his skills. \"Stigma\"? Please.
Well, I DID say Feud was a different case. (And I don\'t agree with everything they do now, but I can\'t deny the success) But...so far I\'m not a fan because this seems so obviously just a copycat move because of Feud. And (on the surface, I admit) on the surface, Cedric:Millionaire :: apples:oranges. I may be wrong, we shall see. But there is a small precedent there of \"trying to bring more comedy\" to a show because a comedian hosts it. It works for TPIR (Drewcases aside), LMAD, and Feud, but I\'m still not sold on it working for Millionaire. Either the comedian gets more serious, or the show gets more comedic. Again, we shall see.
And it just felt like Engvall hosting Lingo was an opening of the floodgates for some of the other stuff.
Because all new game show hosts must be former comedians now...as others said, Feud is a different case. And it works for \"party\" games like the CBS Daytime Two. This? Not so much. Plus I am not a big fan of the trend of comedians/out-of-work \'90s sitcom stars being tapped as game show hosts. I guess there\'s not so much of a demand for dedicated GS hosts now, though.To some extent, you can swap out the \"game show\" genre for \"animation\" now as well. Look at all the major animated TV shows and movies that come out, and how nearly every significant spoken part is done by a famous celebrity, comedian, or A-/B-list star. There are still a few prominent go-to \"voice actors\" that are not household names, but it\'s not in the proportions like it was 20-30+ years ago.
This. To use your example, an a-lister can be a voice actor, often, a damn good one. But it\'s still a shame that they are pushing away people to whom VAing was their first and foremost craft.
According to the writer:
Following some chatter during NATPE last week, I have learned that Cedric The Entertainer has closed a three-year deal to replace Meredith Vieira as host the syndicated version of quiz show Who Wants To Be A Millionaire.
Never heard of Nellie Andreeva, but take that however you will.
[quote name=\\\"aaron s]And apparently now, it\'s official:
http://www.deadline.com/2013/02/cedric-the-entertainer-to-succeed-meredith-vieira-as-host-of-syndicated-âwho-wants-to-be-a-millionaireâ-series/ (http://http://www.deadline.com/2013/02/cedric-the-entertainer-to-succeed-meredith-vieira-as-host-of-syndicated-%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%98who-wants-to-be-a-millionaire%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%99-series/)
According to the writer:
...who then proceeds to cite \"chatter\" as her source.
Seriously, this isn\'t a difficult concept.
Meh, I will reserve judgment until I see him host. I consider WWTBaM a play along show anyway. I watch it to see how well i would do as a contestant.
VIBE and Deadspin are now reporting it.
Deadspin? The sports site? Why exactly do they care? (And, also, link please?)
And, also: Vibe is citing...TFA. TF Unsourced A.
...who then proceeds to cite \"chatter\" as her source.
Seriously, this isn\'t a difficult concept.
Evidently, it\'s difficult for Chad Mosher.
...who then proceeds to cite \"chatter\" as her source.
Seriously, this isn\'t a difficult concept.
Evidently, it\'s difficult for Chad Mosher.
Even more evidently, Dan Benfield doesn\'t know how to read because I didn\'t see anything in that article that would indicate Chad took what was said as gospel. Your first clue should have been the use of \"reportedly\".
And Chad and I aren\'t exactly buddy buddy either, keep in mind.
/although he is a former PYLdude Game Show Award winner
//don\'t ask...I was younger and odder
Even more evidently, Dan Benfield doesn\'t know how to read because I didn\'t see anything in that article that would indicate Chad took what was said as gospel. Your first clue should have been the use of \"reportedly\".
Admittedly, I didn\'t see that, so thanks for pointing it out. I guess I\'m used to Buzzerblog putting such reports under something like \"Rumor\" or \"Rumor Control\", since there\'s no actual sources in the Deadline article and ABC doesn\'t appear to have made a statement on the matter yet (and also because Buzzerblog\'s Twitter account suggests that post was originally called \"Sources Claim Cedric the Entertainer Finalizes Deal To Host “Who Wants to Be a Millionaire”\").
Looking at the post again, I can see that they\'re just reporting a report, but some parts look like they\'re taking it \"as gospel\" (especially the last two sentences). My apologies to Buzzerblog and Chad.
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Getting back to Cedric\'s hosting prowess, he might be good on the show but Feud\'s success is mainly because of a good host who isn\'t afraid to call out stupid answers and mock dumb contestants. There\'s really no room for that on Millionaire unless they cut down on the amount of gameplay in each show or change the show\'s tone, and I honestly don\'t think either would be beneficial.
This is total speculation on my part, but perhaps they\'re noticing that despite being nationally syndicated, it\'s doing (at last report) a 2.6 versus the far less visible Let\'s Ask America\'s 2.0?
...who then proceeds to cite \"chatter\" as her source.
Seriously, this isn\'t a difficult concept.
Evidently, it\'s difficult for Chad Mosher.
You never cease to amaze me.
Don\'t ever change.
Looking at the post again, I can see that they\'re just reporting a report, <snip>====
This is total speculation on my part, <snip>
Just wanted to show you that when you overreach (and apologize), I don\'t necessarily think you should go wildly speculating right after it.
Just my .02.
My apologies to Buzzerblog and Chad.
Read more. Pay attention more. Speculate wildly and try to be a badass by calling out others far, far less.
I just don\'t see all the skepticism here. Cedric gets announced as host and now all of a sudden everyone is scared the show is going to turn into Family Feud 2.0. With him hosting I\'m sure the contestant banter will be a bit more entertaining than Meredith\'s somber tone but I think that\'s a good thing. I think Cedric and/or the producers are not stupid enough to tinker with a format that has withstood over a decade\'s worth of time. The reason Family Feud works with the overly-sexed questions and whatnot is because that\'s what people tune in for. Steve Harvey being a master at drawing that out is a bonus. There\'s a reason the show has been the most popular its been since Ray Combs (read: over 20+ years). Don\'t be foolish enough to think that just because Steve\'s homeboy is hosting another game show that the latter will automatically have penis and other type questions/jokes or that Cedric will try to turn it into the syndicated \"Comic View\" (Wikipedia that).
IOW, why don\'t we take the wait-and-see approach like we do with every other show?
/P.S.- 200th post. Holla.
MTC...did you WATCH It\'s Worth What? I don\'t think you did to say the skepticism isn\'t justified.
And I\'m one of the people who thinks that going to questions laden with innuendo and such is going to result in Feud being off the air in another two years (give or take). Why? Because I believe that the old trend of game show producers beating the hell out of something that bumped the ratings (Millionaire celebrity weeks and showings EVERY FRIGGING NIGHT, for one) will more often than not result in the people getting tired of the show quicker.
Then again Feud survived Richard Karn so what do I know.
I think Cedric and/or the producers are not stupid enough to tinker with a format that has withstood over a decade\'s worth of time.
And yet the producers tinkered with the Millionaire format many times since about 2007: addition of the Clock, removal of Phone A Friend, addition and later removal of Ask The Expert, and the change to the current \"Super Mix\" format all come to mind.
(In fairness, I remember reading long ago that Jay Wolpert was a consultant on the \"Super Mix\" format.)
The reason Family Feud works with the overly-sexed questions and whatnot is because that\'s what people tune in for.
Because the show insisted on going that route to get more \"OMG!\" responses from Steve and hence more YouTube moments.
Steve Harvey being a master at drawing that out is a bonus.
No, he\'s a master of mocking stupid answers. That\'s what he started out with before the show decided the overly-sexed questions were the best choice.
There\'s a reason the show has been the most popular its been since Ray Combs (read: over 20+ years).
Can\'t argue with this, though. It\'s (at last report) at a 5.1, and if the trend continues it could well be knocking at the Jeopardy! door by the end of next season.
Don\'t be foolish enough to think that just because Steve\'s homeboy is hosting another game show that the latter will automatically have penis and other type questions/jokes or that Cedric will try to turn it into the syndicated \"Comic View\"
Why is that kind of thinking foolish? When Steve began hosting Feud, it and Millionaire were fighting for third place among syndicated games. Since then, as you said, Feud has surged.
I think the skepticism is because the long-time host is (apparently) being replaced by a comedian who has never hosted the show and whose only game show effort was...well...that. It\'s Worth What? wasn\'t a bad show, but \"sure-sure\" was dopey and it was NBC so they had to be dumb with it in myriad ways. If Cedric\'s the new Millionaire host, then it just smacks of trying to \"follow the leader\", as it were, and I don\'t think it\'s good news for the show\'s format or style.
I just don\'t see all the skepticism here. Cedric gets announced as host and now all of a sudden everyone is scared the show is going to turn into Family Feud 2.0. With him hosting I\'m sure the contestant banter will be a bit more entertaining than Meredith\'s somber tone but I think that\'s a good thing. I think Cedric and/or the producers are not stupid enough to tinker with a format that has withstood over a decade\'s worth of time. The reason Family Feud works with the overly-sexed questions and whatnot is because that\'s what people tune in for. Steve Harvey being a master at drawing that out is a bonus. There\'s a reason the show has been the most popular its been since Ray Combs (read: over 20+ years). Don\'t be foolish enough to think that just because Steve\'s homeboy is hosting another game show that the latter will automatically have penis and other type questions/jokes or that Cedric will try to turn it into the syndicated \"Comic View\" (Wikipedia that).
IOW, why don\'t we take the wait-and-see approach like we do with every other show?
/P.S.- 200th post. Holla.
Personally, I don\'t like the \"rumoured\" choice because of his widely-known namesake -- Cedric \"The Entertainer\". Millionaire is a show that needs a \"question-asker\" and not an \"entertainer\". To me, it makes it seem like the actual game will take a back seat to the host and his schtick (like \"You Bet Your Life\"). And that is not what the show needs.
Kind of like CBS announcing Scott Pelley will be replaced by \"Triumph The Insult Comedy Dog\" on the evening news -- you kind of know right out of the gate what direction the show could most likely go by namesake alone.
/Considering how well CBS News does overall with their daily news shows in the ratings, Triumph might not be such a bad choice after all.
I\'ll go there ... \"The President has announced a new deficit reduction plan ... FOR ME TO POOP ON!\"
(and just think how bad it would be if Triumph replaced Scott Pelley)
\"Super Mix\"
Oh, go on, call it \"Rando-Quiz,\" you know you want to.
Kind of like CBS announcing Scott Pelley will be replaced by \"Triumph The Insult Comedy Dog\" on the evening news -- you kind of know right out of the gate what direction the show could most likely go by namesake alone.
I would *totally* watch that.
(and just think how bad it would be if Triumph replaced Scott Pelley)
Dan88: Because the show insisted on going that route to get more \"OMG!\" responses from Steve and hence more YouTube moments.
\"Feud\" and \"Millionaire\" are two different beasts. It\'d be like \"Jeopardy!\" ditching its serious quizzer format to be more comedic. It wouldn\'t work there and it wouldn\'t work for \"Millionaire\".
Why is that kind of thinking foolish? When Steve began hosting Feud, it and Millionaire were fighting for third place among syndicated games. Since then, as you said, Feud has surged.
I think the skepticism is because the long-time host is (apparently) being replaced by a comedian who has never hosted the show and whose only game show effort was...well...that. It\'s Worth What? wasn\'t a bad show, but \"sure-sure\" was dopey and it was NBC so they had to be dumb with it in myriad ways. If Cedric\'s the new Millionaire host, then it just smacks of trying to \"follow the leader\", as it were, and I don\'t think it\'s good news for the show\'s format or style.
Meredith Vieira had how much hosting experience before \"Millionaire\"? Oh yeah...NONE! I didn\'t hear anyone crying when they chose her to be the new host back in 2002. A comedian gets the gig and now everyone\'s scared it\'s gonna turn into \"Who Wants to Hear Some Dick Jokes?\".
Of course it\'s a copycat move. They see \"Feud\" blew up with a comedian, why not try to breathe life into the show by having a comedian host \"Millionaire\"? I\'m thinking of it like Howie on DoND. Remember in the beginning when it was halfway tolerable? Howie knew when to be funny and knew when to be serious. That\'s how I picture Cedric doing on \"Millionaire\".
Meredith Vieira had how much hosting experience before \"Millionaire\"? Oh yeah...NONE!Except that there\'s a tradition of news readers being able to competently host a game show. The track record for comedians is less evident.
It\'s Worth What? wasn\'t a bad showIt really was. You do not speak for us, and your screen-long diatribes do not endear yourself to us.
Meredith Vieira had how much hosting experience before \"Millionaire\"? Oh yeah...NONE!
Except that there\'s a tradition of news readers being able to competently host a game show. The track record for comedians is less evident.
This. Though, if you\'re only going to copycat one aspect (which most moves of this ilk do), I\'d rather it be the host than the dick jokes.
(Sorry, I\'m having the worst time trying to figure out quotes on this new board...)
TLEBerle said: Except that there\'s a tradition of news readers being able to competently host a game show. The track record for comedians is less evident.Except that there\'s a tradition of news readers being able to competently host a game show. The track record for comedians is less evident.
I\'ll give you that. Being that the trend of comedian as hosts isn\'t still fairly new compared to the decades-old practice of choosing radio personalities or newscasters, the track record for comedians will naturally be less evident. However, there IS evidence that it can and has worked. Look no further than Wayne Brady on LMaD & \"Lyrics\", Howie Mandel on DoND, Jeff Foxworthy on \"5th Grader?\", and...dare I say it...Drew Carey on TPiR.
Honestly, I don\'t care what type of background an ideal candidate has. If they can host the show competently and efficiently then I\'m a happy camper.
Meredith Vieira had how much hosting experience before \"Millionaire\"? Oh yeah...NONE! I didn\'t hear anyone crying when they chose her to be the new host back in 2002. A comedian gets the gig and now everyone\'s scared it\'s gonna turn into \"Who Wants to Hear Some Dick Jokes?\".
I\'m not everyone, but my thing with Millionaire is not the producers of Millionaire going to the Steve Harvey route.
The problem with Cedric being rumored to host is that he\'s a comedian. Comedians crack jokes. Comedians will stop the proceedings of a game to find jokes. This works well for some formats (LMAD, Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader, Price), but Millionaire is different. Millionaire, I thought, was more serious. Will it lose that edge if Cedric is named host? Possibly. I don\'t know how he would plan to host it, but I\'d be pretty shocked if he didn\'t try to squeeze more jokes into the show.
Millionaire is a serious business show. There\'s really not a lot of room for jokes, and a funnyman just wouldn\'t be a good fit for the show.
Millionaire is a serious business show. There\'s really not a lot of room for jokes, and a funnyman just wouldn\'t be a good fit for the show.
Game. Set. Match.
I find it interesting that you\'re saying \"Game. Set. Match.\" as if it proves something, when Regis Philbin essentially proves my point.
There\'s a difference in a comedian hosting a game show and a host finding something funny (\"What\'s a hoe?\") during the proceedings. When Regis was good he was terrific (especially early on), but when he would needlessly pick on contestants who were obviously nervous about being there, it was awful. Part of the problem is that Regis didn\'t know when to not make a particular joke.
Part of the problem is that Regis didn\'t know when to not make a particular joke.
But Regis being...um, somewhat detached...from the rest of humanity is HIS ENTIRE ACT.
Regis isn\'t a good precedent to use IMO. Even though he has that second banana, self-deprecating act down pat, he also hosted an interview show in one form or another, for a good 30+ years. Not saying that Cedric couldn\'t do that, but in that regard, I think Reege knows a little more about when to let the guest talk.
Yes, comedians have done well as game show hosts, no one\'s disputing that. But it is more than fair to be concerned about a comedian hosting a big money trivia game. I\'m not saying Cedric has to be Serious Bizness with million dollar trivia questions; I\'m saying this isn\'t Family Feud where you can feign shock because the answer was \"Penis\".
That being said, I\'ll keep an open mind, but would those of you who think some are being reactionary say the same thing if Cedric were replacing Alex Trebek? Is that not the same situation?
Millionaire is a serious business show. There\'s really not a lot of room for jokes, and a funnyman just wouldn\'t be a good fit for the show.
Game. Set. Match.
Regis hasn\'t performed in a primarily funnyman role in what...30 years? On top of that, I had no idea comedy was so rigid and stale to be contained to one type, so that Cedric and Regis somehow sell the same brand of comedy. And if old white man equals large black man, I\'ll need to get these damned glasses fixed. There are so many differences between the two that holding up Regis and saying \"See, that worked.\" isn\'t quite the end all proof.
Like I said, I\'m open for surprises. Cedric could realize the type of show this is and work well with it to fit.
/Djokovic and Federer need you to finish calling their match.
My frustration in reading this thread is how several people are assuming that simply because Cedric is hosting the show, that every other question will now involve a \"dick joke\" or a double sexual entendre. I personally am a bit offended by it, TBH. Yeah, Cedric is know for his previous association with Steve Harvey, which I\'m sure didn\'t hurt with him getting offered the job, but if you watched him on \"It\'s Worth What?\" (Yeah, I thought it wasn\'t too bad, save for trying to make \"It\'s worth whaaaaaaat?\" a catch phrase), he pretty much played it straight and occasionally made jokes when the moment called for it. He was actually too stiff, IMO. I say give the man a chance. And let\'s be honest: if it was someone like Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert, many more of you would be all for it, me thinks.
Tyshaun
/don\'t get me wrong, I like them both
// just making a point
And let\'s be honest: if it was someone like Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert, many more of you would be all for it, me thinks.
I\'m not sure if I like the tone of that. Something about it isn\'t right.
I say give the man a chance. And let\'s be honest: if it was someone like Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert, many more of you would be all for it, me thinks.1) Would you welcome in a dog that wasn\'t housetrained?
I say give the man a chance. And let\'s be honest: if it was someone like Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert, many more of you would be all for it, me thinks.
1) Would you welcome in a dog that wasn\'t housetrained?
2) I wouldn\'t like that at all. Neither Stewart or Colbert is well-suited to a game show.
1) Except Cedric is. A six-week summer run on a crappy NBC game show is hardly the most ideal training ground for a host to take over an established format. But then again neither was \"Power of 10\"...
2) I could definitely see Jon Stewart absolutely killing it. He\'s an intelligent guy and funny as hell to boot. He knows how to toe the line of comedy and seriousness very well. Should \"The Daily Show\" suddenly fail and Stewart finds himself in need of employment, 2WayTraffic could do much, much worse than Stewart.
Simple math:
+ All guest hosts on Millionaire over the years
- All guest hosts who only hosted one week\'s worth of shows
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= Celebrities that were good enough hosting the show AND were brought back because audiences didn\'t turn them off nor complained that the hosts stayed too far from the show\'s formatics.
There\'s your pool of qualified likeable hosts, giving the show the best chance that both the game & host will mesh together and with the viewers in the years to come.
And let\'s be honest: if it was someone like Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert, many more of you would be all for it, me thinks.
I\'m not sure if I like the tone of that. Something about it isn\'t right.
It\'s a little race-cardey. I was pondering it on the way into work today, and at first I was going to say \"but I\'m not sure it\'s entirely unjustified,\" but the more I think about it, no, it\'s a little race-cardey. The accusation that the material for the show is going to turn into a bunch of dick and fart jokes just because of the host is silly, but at the same time I don\'t think I\'ve seen anyone make it.
What I *do* think is that some people think that Cedric is going to host the show in his somewhat-ribald \"black comedian\" style, which *does* sound racist...until you take a good hard look at Cedric and admit that that is in fact the trade he\'s been plying for his entire career. And it has nothing to do with the color of his skin; that is simply the style of comedy he does. Ralphie May does the same style and he\'s one of about four people on the planet who is whiter than I am.
1) Except Cedric is. A six-week summer run on a crappy NBC game show is hardly the most ideal training ground for a host to take over an established format. But then again neither was \"Power of 10\"...
2) I could definitely see Jon Stewart absolutely killing it. He\'s an intelligent guy and funny as hell to boot. He knows how to toe the line of comedy and seriousness very well. Should \"The Daily Show\" suddenly fail and Stewart finds himself in need of employment, 2WayTraffic could do much, much worse than Stewart.
Simple math:Unless I missed something over the years, the solution to that math problem is 0. Or was that your point?
+ All guest hosts on Millionaire over the years
- All guest hosts who only hosted one week's worth of shows
________________________________________________________
= Celebrities that were good enough hosting the show AND were brought back because audiences didn't turn them off nor complained that the hosts stayed too far from the show's formatics.
There's your pool of qualified likeable hosts, giving the show the best chance that both the game & host will mesh together and with the viewers in the years to come.
And let\'s be honest: if it was someone like Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert, many more of you would be all for it, me thinks.
I\'m not sure if I like the tone of that. Something about it isn\'t right.
It\'s a little race-cardey. I was pondering it on the way into work today, and at first I was going to say \"but I\'m not sure it\'s entirely unjustified,\" but the more I think about it, no, it\'s a little race-cardey. The accusation that the material for the show is going to turn into a bunch of dick and fart jokes just because of the host is silly, but at the same time I don\'t think I\'ve seen anyone make it.
Reading some of the earlier posts in this thread rubbed me the wrong way. It basically implied that because Cedric was rumored to be the new host, that they were going to turn the show into comedy-fest that mimics Feud and that the only reason Cedric would get it is because of Steve Harvey. Yeah I threw the race card angle, and for that I apologize if it upset anyone. I am not even a huge Cedric fan by any means, but based on what I\'ve seen of his actual persona, I could see him doing a decent job at hosting the show if he keeps a balance between game play and humor.
Tyshaun
1) Except Cedric is. A six-week summer run on a crappy NBC game show is hardly the most ideal training ground for a host to take over an established format. But then again neither was \"Power of 10\"...
Wait, are you refuting your own point? Because you\'re right: Power of 10 didn\'t get Droo ready for diddly.
It really didn\'t, and I\'m not saying Drew is a spectacular host by any means. For better or worse, Mike Richards and co. has basically had to build the presentation around Drew\'s lack of hosting skills (George Gray, talking models, a new male model, flashier set, better prizes, etc.) and they will have successfully continued the show going into its seventh year post-Bob. Whether or not that would\'ve happened with a lesser-known like Mr. Newton or any of the other try-outs is up for debate, but let\'s not act like attaching Drew to the show didn\'t play a role in that in some way.
I think Cedric has a great personality offstage and on (\"on\" is where Drew fails IMO), so the fact that \"It\'s Worth What?\" was gone in six weeks doesn\'t bother me. I consider that his trial run, if you will. Contestant interaction plays a huge factor in being a great host and being a good conversationalist is a part of that. Cedric has that. The fact that he\'s a comedian should actually be a positive. \"Millionaire\" is a pretty rigid format. Injecting a little (read: LITTLE) humor into the contestant interviews and, when appropriate, during a question would actually breathe a little life into the show and I think, more so than trying to copy \"Feud\", that\'s what the producers are going for with this move.
For better or worse, Mike Richards and co. has basically had to build the presentation around Drew\'s lack of hosting skills (George Gray, talking models, a new male model, flashier set, better prizes, etc.) and they will have successfully continued the show going into its seventh year post-Bob.
and for that I apologize if it upset anyone.I\'ll have more to say when I get home tonight:
and for that I apologize if it upset anyone.
I\'ll have more to say when I get home tonight:
\"I\'m sorry but\" or \"I\'m sorry if\" is not an apology, it\'s weasel words.
You shall speak for me with that \"more to say\", I\'m sure.
You shall speak for me with that \"more to say\", I\'m sure.I try to not do that, but if we have the same opinion that\'s fine with me. I\'m not judging Cedric the Haberdasher by his skin color, I\'m judging him based on how he hosted a nothing-burger game show on NBC and what I know of the fashion in which he tells jokes. To say that \"if it was Stewart or Colbert there wouldn\'t be an issue\" is so beyond the pale that it is laughable, and the implication within is downright insulting and shameful.
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