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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: LetsGoYankees on December 16, 2012, 09:16:36 AM
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This text was at the bottom right corner as a on-air promo during Family Feud last night. It said also 'during Match Game Christmas Day marathon', and 'Happy Holiplays'.
Wonder if we will see more Match Game besides the '74 and '75 we see now. Looks like at least one episode will not be
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It IS the show's 50th anniversary, or at least, it's the 50th anniversary of the ORIGINAL Match Game, so it would be a good time to show it.
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TV Guide has the listings of most of the shows they're airing from 8AM-5PM- The 60's MG pilot is airing at 8AM, the 70's pilot is airing at 9AM, and they even got a ep from '98 at 4PM (is this the first time GSN has aired the '98 version?)
http://tvguide.com/N...cs-1057919.aspx (http://\"http://tvguide.com/News/Game-Show-Network-Match-Game-Classics-1057919.aspx\")
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TV Guide has the listings of most of the shows they're airing from 8AM-5PM- The 60's MG pilot is airing at 8AM, the 70's pilot is airing at 9AM, and they even got a ep from '98 at 4PM (is this the first time GSN has aired the '98 version?)
http://tvguide.com/N...cs-1057919.aspx (http://\"http://tvguide.com/News/Game-Show-Network-Match-Game-Classics-1057919.aspx\")
I just got a hold of the PDF schedule for the week... the 4PM hour isn't listed for some reason, but yes that would be the first time GSN's ever aired that version.
Particularly interested to see the 73 pilot scheduled (listed as "Pilot A" on the PDF).
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they even got a ep from '98 at 4PM (is this the first time GSN has aired the '98 version?)
Looks like the Mayans were right (albeit a couple of days late)
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TV Guide has the listings of most of the shows they're airing from 8AM-5PM- The 60's MG pilot is airing at 8AM, the 70's pilot is airing at 9AM, and they even got a ep from '98 at 4PM (is this the first time GSN has aired the '98 version?)
http://tvguide.com/N...cs-1057919.aspx (http://\"http://tvguide.com/News/Game-Show-Network-Match-Game-Classics-1057919.aspx\")
Over/under of Bill Clinton jokes on the MG '98 episode? :)
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40.5 is where I set the break point.
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and they even got a ep from '98 at 4PM (is this the first time GSN has aired the '98 version?)
Awaiting a "GSN, now THIS is a new low for you" thread in 5...4...3...2...*
Seriously, though, if they wanted to go through MG's history and show rarities, there are better alternatives. Lease an MG/HS episode (though the dual ownership issue is a problem, and/or if the Rayburn Embargo is real, the estate might be maintaining it). Air the MG90 pilot with Bert Convy, since they are showing pilots**. I'd even settle for the Gameshow Marathon episode or an episode of the Canadian series.
* - That said, suddenly those joke schedules from the original "new low" thread, with Pearson's 1990s and 2000s input, don't seem so funny anymore.
** - However, I am not desperate enough for the Tilton pilot.
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Seriously, though, if they wanted to go through MG's history and show rarities, there are better alternatives.
Cripes. You get two things never seen on TV before and something never seen on GSN, yet you're not satisfied?
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I'm surprised that GSN hasn't at least entertained the notion of picking up the '98 series for a spell- they run/have run almost every edition of Feud under the sun...
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Seriously, though, if they wanted to go through MG's history and show rarities, there are better alternatives.
Cripes. You get two things never seen on TV before and something never seen on GSN, yet you're not satisfied?
Oh, I'm happy about TMG pilot (shoot, any time we get to see any "new" eps of the '60s series) and the MG7x pilot. I am just saying that that third spot could have had better occupants if they were going for "never before seen" on GSN and/or TV, and ones that would serve the same purpose of a MG98 episode, but with better quality.
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4:30PM is still TBD... I wonder if they're trying for an episode of the new Canadian version.
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Seriously, though, if they wanted to go through MG's history and show rarities, there are better alternatives.
Cripes. You get two things never seen on TV before and something never seen on GSN, yet you're not satisfied?
Oh, I'm happy about TMG pilot (shoot, any time we get to see any "new" eps of the '60s series) and the MG7x pilot. I am just saying that that third spot could have had better occupants if they were going for "never before seen" on GSN, and ones that would serve the same purpose of a MG98 episode.
Such as?
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Seriously, though, if they wanted to go through MG's history and show rarities, there are better alternatives.
Cripes. You get two things never seen on TV before and something never seen on GSN, yet you're not satisfied?
Oh, I'm happy about TMG pilot (shoot, any time we get to see any "new" eps of the '60s series) and the MG7x pilot. I am just saying that that third spot could have had better occupants if they were going for "never before seen" on GSN, and ones that would serve the same purpose of a MG98 episode.
Such as?
Purpose? To air something not seen before on GSN, and/or outside of the trading circuit...which is what GSN wants in MG98 I guess (more the former than latter, of course...or was anyone crazy enough to tape and keep MG98 videos?!!?)
Occupants? I named some...MG/HS (most of which hasn't been seen in nearly 30 years), MG90, Convy '90 pilot(s)...there are people who'd rather see any of those than the '98 series, I'm sure...
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Seriously, though, if they wanted to go through MG's history and show rarities, there are better alternatives.
Cripes. You get two things never seen on TV before and something never seen on GSN, yet you're not satisfied?
Oh, I'm happy about TMG pilot (shoot, any time we get to see any "new" eps of the '60s series) and the MG7x pilot. I am just saying that that third spot could have had better occupants if they were going for "never before seen" on GSN and/or TV, and ones that would serve the same purpose of a MG98 episode, but with better quality.
Or, you could have the same old stuff. "Yes, but..." isn't a valid response.
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You're complaining about 30 minutes of a 9 hour marathon. I just think it's nice they're showing episodes from throughout the entire run of Match Game. They easily could have just shown episodes from the 200 episode lease they currently have.
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(is this the first time GSN has aired the '98 version?)
Indeed.
To the average GSN viewer (read: no one on this forum), it's a rare version that most viewers prolly don't even realize existed. Yes, this version was extremely subpar, but if you're commemorating the 50th anniversary, it only makes sense to include as many versions as possible, esp. since they prolly can't get the MG/HS Hour due to rights issues. So, in a way, it's a neat rarity...hardly anything to get worked up over.
/And it would prolly be awkward to show just one half of the show and not the other
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As someone has already pointed out, one of the half hour slots is unaccounted for. So while I certainly could be the slightest bit disappointed in no Convy Match Game pilot, I can't be since I can hold out hope that it will show. On top of that, just because Match Game '98 wasn't the best show, doesn't mean it should be locked in a vault never to be seen again. It's fun to watch mistakes and I look forward to seeing Match Game '98 on a television since my last memory of it on TV is hazy.
GSN has certainly been surprising me. While they certainly aren't the channel of yore, to get the first fifty episodes of PYL, a new Pyramid, new 25K Pyramid episodes, the return of Password, the continuation of 2-week B&W Overnight, and now these gems, it has really been an alright damn good year. Their actions continually renew my hope to see new and exciting things from them, which at one point I thought wasn't going to happen.
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and/or outside of the trading circuit
MRRP! GSN does not care about the "trading circuit."
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And honestly, call me crazy, but I'm one of those types who used to love the original TV Land that showed obscure shows that were done after a season. Nearly 15 years later, I love coming across obscure 70s and 80s shows on Youtube. If I'm the casual viewer, I'm excited to see this for the same reason, even if I can find episodes on YT.
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Oh, I'm happy about TMG pilot (shoot, any time we get to see any "new" eps of the '60s series) and the MG7x pilot. I am just saying that that third spot could have had better occupants if they were going for "never before seen" on GSN and/or TV, and ones that would serve the same purpose of a MG98 episode, but with better quality.
Gotta love the 3s, I tell you.....*facepalm*
Real treat, in my eyes no matter what versions they got lined up.
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Will this mark the first time that GSN has aired a Goodson-Todman pilot?
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Will this mark the first time that GSN has aired a Goodson-Todman pilot?
Jimmy, you must wear a hat when you go outside. You've caught something dreadful and as a result we can barely hear you.
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Will this mark the first time that GSN has aired a Goodson-Todman pilot?
Amazingly, it would appear so. Unless an episode of one of their G-T obscurities like He Said She Said happened to be a pilot and just wasn't identified as such. The "turkeys" they aired were for the most part Barris and Stewart shows.
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Oh, I'm happy about TMG pilot (shoot, any time we get to see any "new" eps of the '60s series) and the MG7x pilot. I am just saying that that third spot could have had better occupants if they were going for "never before seen" on GSN and/or TV, and ones that would serve the same purpose of a MG98 episode, but with better quality.
Gotta love the 3s, I tell you.....*facepalm*
Real treat, in my eyes no matter what versions they got lined up.
Oh no, sorry if it seemed like I was turning to the dark side there. I actually accept MG98 being there, despite my wishes for another version or pilot in its place. And I do see an MG90 episode now that I saw the schedule, so my mistake.
Now I think the '98 episode is the premiere? I THINK Rondell was on the panel then...
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Will this mark the first time that GSN has aired a Goodson-Todman pilot?
Amazingly, it would appear so. Unless an episode of one of their G-T obscurities like He Said She Said happened to be a pilot and just wasn't identified as such. The "turkeys" they aired were for the most part Barris and Stewart shows.
And a bit of Barry-Enright if you count the Faux Paused Hollywood Connection pilot.
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Now I think the '98 episode is the premiere? I THINK Rondell was on the panel then...
I've got a tape somewhere at my mom's, but the "premiere" we got here (it was a single episode IIRC) had a guy named Sandy who appeared on Scrabble in 1993 (his episode is actually on Youtube).
I can't remember the panel, but off the top of my head, I think it was Vicki-Rondell-Judy-Nell-George Hamilton.
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Dug through my collection and found my copy of the first ep (at least, labeled as such. The aforementioned Sandy is a contestant). Panel is Vicki-Kristoff St. John-Judy-Nell-George Hamilton.
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To the people complaining here, just stop. The good news: We're actually getting a marathon over the holidays that is not just Family Feud. The great news: It's a Match Game marathon. The best news of all: The episodes GSN has acquired for this special, half-century anniversary. Nothing can top this right now. Even if the marathon doesn't crack 200K, I'll be fine with that.
Please all, and you will please none, apparently
Despite my MG98 knocking, I do agree. Seems that GSN is trying to find a happy medium between casual viewers, hardcore fans, and being economical all the while. Nothing wrong with that. They're not running the enitre run of Spin-Off or something obscure like that, but there are still nods to the hardcores.
And Seth, you are right, it was Kristoff on the first episode, I knew it was some distinct name. (Another way to tell: was the Audience Match "_____ chip"?) Why I remembered Rondell too, I don't know.
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Despite my MG98 knocking, I do agree. Seems that GSN is trying to find a happy medium between casual viewers, hardcore fans, and being economical all the while. Nothing wrong with that. They're not running the enitre run of Spin-Off or something obscure like that, but there are still nods to the hardcores.
Are "the hardcores" paying a premium for their fanservice?To the people complaining here, just stop.
Guy, you're really not in the position to dish out orders.
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Despite my MG98 knocking, I do agree. Seems that GSN is trying to find a happy medium between casual viewers, hardcore fans, and being economical all the while. Nothing wrong with that. They're not running the enitre run of Spin-Off or something obscure like that, but there are still nods to the hardcores.
Are "the hardcores" paying a premium for their fanservice?
No, which is why there needs to be a happy medium between the elements I named.
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Why does there need to be a happy medium? They put out a product, we choose whether or not we wish to avail ourselves of it.
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Why does there need to be a happy medium? They put out a product, we choose whether or not we wish to avail ourselves of it.
Perhaps "need" was the wrong word. More like GSN does try to have something for everyone, even if not everyone acknowledges it because they want more.
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To the people complaining here, just stop.
{typical blather snipped}
Please all, and you will please none, apparently
As far as I can tell, it was one complaint, and over one of the episodes. Don't do this...you will only fail miserably.
Given the snarky arrogance, I'm beginning to side with Joe that this is Abell.
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Given the snarky arrogance, I'm beginning to side with Joe that this is Abell.
This guy is actually a former poster at the GSN boards who went under the name Lingofan97. He was banned from there about a month or two ago for I think being as obnoxious as he is here.
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Given the snarky arrogance, I'm beginning to side with Joe that this is Abell.
This guy is actually a former poster at the GSN boards who went under the name Lingofan97. He was banned from there about a month or two ago for I think being as obnoxious as he is here.
Fair enough. I stand (or sit) corrected. He's not here, but my apologies to Casey.
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Even if the marathon doesn't crack 200K, I'll be fine with that.
Don't hold your breath on it getting those kinds of numbers.
On second thought, hold your breath.
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He's not here, but my apologies to Casey.
Oh, he's here.
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I'll cast my vote for a Miss Lily Savage episode.
//yeah, right
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I just received an email from GSN, noting that they have added what is to air in the 4:30 slot: It is the third of five Bert Convy pilots from 1989. More details here: http://buzzerblog.com/2012/12/match-game-marathon/
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I just received an email from GSN, noting that they have added what is to air in the 4:30 slot: It is the third of five Bert Convy pilots from 1989. More details here: http://buzzerblog.co...-game-marathon/ (http://\"http://buzzerblog.com/2012/12/match-game-marathon/\")
I guess I can officially stop my b*tching, then? Seriously, the marathon was great as it was, but now it's must-see (or must bum a recording off of a friend, as I don't have GSN anymore)
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Two weeks of true classics in black and white, a solid remake of Pyramid, early episodes of Press Your Luck, several things I'm probably forgetting, and a Match Game marathon that goes WAY beyond what anybody should have rationally expected. And yet people still complain that GSN ignores classic fans.
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You beat me too this....
Considering I got the email and wrote the post, I'd like to hope so.
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Will this mark the first time that GSN has aired a Goodson-Todman pilot?
Amazingly, it would appear so. Unless an episode of one of their G-T obscurities like He Said She Said happened to be a pilot and just wasn't identified as such. The "turkeys" they aired were for the most part Barris and Stewart shows.
Actually, I'm fairly certain GSN has aired exactly that, Matt. Years ago, when they followed their black & white Sunday line-up with a "game of the week," they aired an episode of "He Said, She Said" that was odd for a couple of reasons: It was in black & white, it appeared to be on film instead of videotape, and it was Gene & Helen Rayburn playing against three civilian couples, instead of four celebrity couples.
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Not that I'm complaining, but I'm surprised they didn't try to get an episode of Match Game/Hollywood squares hour.
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You beat me too this....
Considering I got the email and wrote the post, I'd like to hope so.
I lol'd. Hard.
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I'll definitely be watching the Bert Convy pilot. Too bad he didn't live to host it.
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Bert didn't die until July of 1991...same month the show was actually canceled.
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Not that I'm complaining, but I'm surprised they didn't try to get an episode of Match Game/Hollywood squares hour.
Who said they didn't?
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Two weeks of true classics in black and white, a solid remake of Pyramid, early episodes of Press Your Luck, several things I'm probably forgetting, and a Match Game marathon that goes WAY beyond what anybody should have rationally expected. And yet people still complain that GSN ignores classic fans.
Quoted for truth. I think the past few months have been excellent.
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Not that I'm complaining, but I'm surprised they didn't try to get an episode of Match Game/Hollywood squares hour.
Who said they didn't?
True...but we all know the story there. It would be interesting to know if they did ask for an episode, but still couldn't come past the dual ownership, or if the Rayburn estate withheld the embargo, if that story was true to begin with.
I would have loved to see an episode, though, as I am one of those who thinks the show wasn't that bad, and this comes not even through nostagia colored glasses.
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Two weeks of true classics in black and white, a solid remake of Pyramid, early episodes of Press Your Luck, several things I'm probably forgetting, and a Match Game marathon that goes WAY beyond what anybody should have rationally expected. And yet people still complain that GSN ignores classic fans.
Quoted for truth. I think the past few months have been excellent.
Seconded on my behalf. Like I said it seems they are going for a happy medium, as far as they can take it while also running a profitable network, meaning appealing to the casual viewer and staying in budget. I applaud them for that...we still do get pleasant surprises from the network, despite what some people say. I just wished The Pyramid's future was more certain at this time.
OT, but truthfully, TV Land is the same...they only really dominate the schedule with originals and '90s+ reruns in prime time and late night, they still have classics in the morning and afternoon, albeit just the really popular ones. And elements of those originals still have a classics sensibility.
/You can't beat Antenna TV though.
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They got an episode of Woolery Wheel for the Merv Griffin tribute, and they never had the rights to it. I don't think it would be that hard to get permission for a one-time deal. It's a longshot with so many other versions, but it's not completely impossible.
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They got an episode of Woolery Wheel for the Merv Griffin tribute, and they never had the rights to it. I don't think it would be that hard to get permission for a one-time deal. It's a longshot with so many other versions, but it's not completely impossible.
Hmmmmm...I thought that their connection with Sony allowed them usage of any versions of Wheel, or did they always just have the rights to the syndies? (I thought it was once said they could use Bob and Rolf's daytime versions for instance, but they just never bothered to use them)
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They got an episode of Woolery Wheel for the Merv Griffin tribute, and they never had the rights to it.
As JMFabino alluded to, GSN never seems to have had the rights to any daytime Wheel. Given this (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyHBl2bjaQY\") interview (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDaNL8M9y6E\") with Chuck circa 2004, it seems more likely that GSN just plucked episodes from the Paley Center.
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I thought getting the rights to MG/HS was nigh-on impossible, due to them being split between production companies, one of which was Orion.
I'll definitely be setting my Tivo for the Convy pilot, at the very least.
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As JMFabino alluded to, GSN never seems to have had the rights to any daytime Wheel. Given this (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyHBl2bjaQY\") interview (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDaNL8M9y6E\") with Chuck circa 2004, it seems more likely that GSN just plucked episodes from the Paley Center.
I'm not sure of your point (I seldom am), but regardless of the source, they would still have to acquire rights to air an episode. Just because a copy happens to exist at the Paley Center doesn't give them permission to put it on the air.
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It would be interesting to know if they did ask for an episode, but still couldn't come past the dual ownership, or if the Rayburn estate withheld the embargo, if that story was true to begin with.
I have heard two different versions of the "Rayburn estate embargo" story. One says it applies to MG/HS; the other, to Every Second Counts.
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I have heard two different versions of the "Rayburn estate embargo" story. One says it applies to MG/HS; the other, to Every Second Counts.
I think you mean Break The Bank
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I'm not sure of your point (I seldom am), but regardless of the source, they would still have to acquire rights to air an episode. Just because a copy happens to exist at the Paley Center doesn't give them permission to put it on the air.
Oh, no disagreement, and I never said they didn't have to acquire rights -- I was simply pointing out that most (if not all) the episodes shown in that marathon had already been held by Paley Center and were likely plucked from there instead of the Sony, King World, or GSN archives.
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As JMFabino alluded to, GSN never seems to have had the rights to any daytime Wheel. Given this (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyHBl2bjaQY\") interview (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDaNL8M9y6E\") with Chuck circa 2004, it seems more likely that GSN just plucked episodes from the Paley Center.
I'm not sure of your point (I seldom am)
Oh, snap.
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I enjoyed the entire marathon. As a critic of MG 98, I actually enjoyed the episode they showed. The pilots were a nice touch. Always wanted to see a Convy pilot in its entirety. Great job GSN.
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I know that somebody here can answer this with ease...my wife would like to know if the "finishing school" guy was called back and played again due to what happened. This is the first time she had seen that episode.
Thanks.
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I know that somebody here can answer this with ease...my wife would like to know if the "finishing school" guy was called back and played again due to what happened. This is the first time she had seen that episode.
Don't hold me to this, but I want to say he was brought back, but was equally unremarkable in his return appearance.
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My not-a-game-show-fan mother watched with me and actually sided with the judge on that episode. "What we call a school and what we call a finishing school are two different institutions with different functions."
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It'll probably be up on YouTube soon, but how did Bert handle MG?
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It'll probably be up on YouTube soon, but how did Bert handle MG?
I thought he handled it pretty well. The pilot they showed was the one with the "bobbing for balls" incident that was seen on a game show blooper special.
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I thought Bert did a great job, too, although it's amazing how different the overall tone of the show is with ANY other emcee. Even with a veteran host who appeared as a guest on the old version, "Match Game" without Gene Rayburn somehow just doesn't feel like "Match Game" to me. Gene totally absorbed that show.
Both contestants were former "Super Password" contestants. Harley, who got a LOT of ribbing about his name during the pilot, carved out a pretty nice career for himself doing bit parts (http://\"http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0958638/\").
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My not-a-game-show-fan mother watched with me and actually sided with the judge on that episode. "What we call a school and what we call a finishing school are two different institutions with different functions."
Same here with my dad. He heard the question and immediately said "finishing school!" Knowing how it turned out, I asked him why, and he said "that's where you went if you wanted to get cultured." "Like charm school?" "Right."
When I first lived this question via screengrabs and .wav in the early 2000s, I sided with the contestant. Watching now, I side a lot more with Ira.
-Jason
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Seeing the Convy pilot for the first time begs the question: Why did they decide to shoehorn "Match-Up" into the show when it went to series? They had a perfectly good, self-contained half-hour format as it was. Change the points over to dollars if you want, but either way, it works.
(And oddly enough, this is how I've always run the main round of MG when I've hosted game show nights. All six play each round, first two rounds at $n00 per match, third round at 2x $n00 per match.)
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Why did they decide to shoehorn "Match-Up" into the show when it went to series? They had a perfectly good, self-contained half-hour format as it was. Change the points over to dollars if you want, but either way, it works.
The fact that the pilot, as seen today, ran for a good solid 28 minutes probably had at least something to do with the changes. Even if they left all the funny bits on the cutting room floor, there was no way in hell an every-celeb-plays-every-question format (what they were clearly shooting for) was clocking in under 25 with three rounds.
"Match Game" without Gene Rayburn somehow just doesn't feel like "Match Game" to me. Gene totally absorbed that show.
Keep in mind, this was Bert's third time ever hosting the format. Being on a panel occasionally in the early 70s is not the same experience as being host.
At a bare minimum, today's show was more enjoyable than 95% of the shows I've seen that Gene & co. made after 1978. Honestly, unless the panel's been in the sauce, most of the 70s episodes after Dawson left are, well, not great. And even quite a few of the episodes *with* Richard could be hit or miss. If Bert had been able to host, and the show managed to find a way to escape the gigantic number of cancellations in 1991, I think there's a legitimate argument that a version hosted by Bert could be remembered with at least the same fondness as Gene's.
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At a bare minimum, today's show was more enjoyable than 95% of the shows I've seen that Gene & co. made after 1978. Honestly, unless the panel's been in the sauce, most of the 70s episodes after Dawson left are, well, not great. And even quite a few of the episodes *with* Richard could be hit or miss.
Concur. By the same token, I feel the Shaffer episode from the marathon (and most of the run, from my vague memory) held up just as well as that Convy pilot. Those four years or so of the "peak" of MG '7x were real lightning-in-a-bottle type stuff that could never be replicated.
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I think there's a legitimate argument that a version hosted by Bert could be remembered with at least the same fondness as Gene's.
Absolutely! I thought Bert did a terrific job--and that "balls" debacle aside, I thought Bert had at least as firm a hand on the reins as Gene often did.
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Seeing the Convy pilot for the first time begs the question: Why did they decide to shoehorn "Match-Up" into the show when it went to series? They had a perfectly good, self-contained half-hour format as it was. Change the points over to dollars if you want, but either way, it works.
(And oddly enough, this is how I've always run the main round of MG when I've hosted game show nights. All six play each round, first two rounds at $n00 per match, third round at 2x $n00 per match.)
I think it was partly to cut the time down as has been mentioned, plus a way to get more money in the game. I don't think Bert did a bad job of it- it might not have had a longer run if he had hosted (a ton of affiliates were doing news at noon by then), but it would have been remembered more than it has been.
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My question is, did they ever plan on doing/actually do the traditional points version? (As suggested by the presence of the six-segmented "MATCH*" readouts and of course the red and green markers on the celebs' podiums)
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Purpose? To air something not seen before on GSN, and/or outside of the trading circuit...which is what GSN wants in MG98 I guess (more the former than latter, of course...or was anyone crazy enough to tape and keep MG98 videos?!!?)
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Most of what I taped of MG98 was what I could get off of WGN, Not that I was saving those eps for posterity, but because I would use the same tapes to record Bergeron Squares, the tapes would get full and it was just easier for me to shove a new tape in the VCR rather than rewinding and recording over it. The tapes are in my basement, but I would be curious to find out if they are even watchable now. I guess one day I will have to find out.
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Seeing the Convy pilot for the first time begs the question: Why did they decide to shoehorn "Match-Up" into the show when it went to series? They had a perfectly good, self-contained half-hour format as it was. Change the points over to dollars if you want, but either way, it works.
Match Game will never fit properly into a single half hour. Three full rounds is rushed, MG PM had the chance that some of the players match straight away and sit like a log for the rest of the time. On the other hand, you could have the issue of MG'98, where a 1-0 victory plays all of three questions and you have to add a commercial break between the Audience Match and Head to Head, and still stretch.
Match-up allows your contestants to say more than two answers over the course of the show, but it also brings the show to a climactic conclusion in the form of the horse race as the clock winds down, and you either get "Match...and win!" or "Time's up, Green Triangle Guy, you're the champ!" It isn't a great fix, but after watching I've come to the conclusion that it is slightly better than a coin flip because you still have to make the judgment call.
I thought Bert was fine, I think he should have done Body Language (since he still gets to ham it up with the celebrities, and fewer chances to give away material), and Tom Kennedy should have hosted Super Password.
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I thought Bert was fine, I think he should have done Body Language (since he still gets to ham it up with the celebrities, and fewer chances to give away material), and Tom Kennedy should have hosted Super Password.
I agree (X gets the square).
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That first-episode-with-Charles-and-Brett was in a different studio than usual (or so it seemed from the audience visible in the wide shots). When they cut to an audience shot a couple of times, red, yellow, and blue drapes were visible on the back wall. Anybody know: was this the studio where Tattle Tales was taped?
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There was at least one week of Match Game which was taped in the Tattletales studio. Although I didn't see this marathon, I remember seeing this week when GSN ran it years ago. I want to say it was from early 1974, but I can't be sure of the date.
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It was from 1974. I know Steve Allen and Kaye Ballard were on the panel that week.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RIgVDqGshs
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I have heard two different versions of the "Rayburn estate embargo" story. One says it applies to MG/HS; the other, to Every Second Counts.
I think you mean Break The Bank
Why, yes. Yes, I do mean Break the Bank. (I got confused by the fact that in the Rayburn version, the contestants earned seconds in which to do the stunts to earn the cards.)
Question: besides the pilot and the first episode, what (if anything) was significant about the 70s-era episodes that would warrant their selection over others? I would have figured they would have had either the first Star Wheel episode (especially as the first spin landed on Richard) or the first $10,000 win.
I assume that one of them was the first use of "boobs" on the show (by a contestant, no less), and can understand the PM episode with Kukla & Ollie (although I didn't quite see the whole thing - did they ever bring Burr Tillstrom out from behind the curtain? If not, I would have probably went for the Friday of that cast's CBS week, when they did bring him out at the end), but what about the others?
Another question: did the CBS version ever have any undefeated champions? I seem to recall the answer being "no" (although at least one contestant did get past $20,000), but would like to be sure.
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ISTR reading about at least one, although I didn't see it myself. Gene mentioned that he didn't know where to start with the two new contestants. (I thought this odd, since MGPM obviously had two new players each time.)
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I have heard two different versions of the "Rayburn estate embargo" story. One says it applies to MG/HS; the other, to Every Second Counts.
I think you mean Break The Bank
Why, yes. Yes, I do mean Break the Bank. (I got confused by the fact that in the Rayburn version, the contestants earned seconds in which to do the stunts to earn the cards.)
Question: besides the pilot and the first episode, what (if anything) was significant about the 70s-era episodes that would warrant their selection over others? I would have figured they would have had either the first Star Wheel episode (especially as the first spin landed on Richard) or the first $10,000 win.
I assume that one of them was the first use of "boobs" on the show (by a contestant, no less), and can understand the PM episode with Kukla & Ollie (although I didn't quite see the whole thing - did they ever bring Burr Tillstrom out from behind the curtain? If not, I would have probably went for the Friday of that cast's CBS week, when they did bring him out at the end), but what about the others?
One was the first show Brett and Charles appeared together on... but they weren't on the same tier and didn't have much interaction. Others of significance that aired: the "school riot" episode, one where Brett and Charles have a "fight" and Charles moves to the bottom tier, and the New Year's Eve 76/77 show with an appearance by Mark Goodson. Most of the others seemed a tad arbitrary, but at least it led to a lot of variety being in the marathon.
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Another question: did the CBS version ever have any undefeated champions? I seem to recall the answer being "no" (although at least one contestant did get past $20,000), but would like to be sure.
I want to say I remember reading years and years ago that there was one undefeated champion on Match Game '79.
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There was one undeated champ on Match Game '79, which oddly enough didn't even air on CBS. AFAIK, it only aired on GSN as it was very near the end of the run. Once she went over the $25,000 limit, she was "retired".
Oddly enough, the longest-running champion on the show won about 14 games. He only ended up with around $16,000 because he kept blowing the super match.
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Question: besides the pilot and the first episode, what (if anything) was significant about the 70s-era episodes that would warrant their selection over others? I would have figured they would have had either the first Star Wheel episode (especially as the first spin landed on Richard) or the first $10,000 win.
I assume that one of them was the first use of "boobs" on the show (by a contestant, no less), and can understand the PM episode with Kukla & Ollie (although I didn't quite see the whole thing - did they ever bring Burr Tillstrom out from behind the curtain? If not, I would have probably went for the Friday of that cast's CBS week, when they did bring him out at the end), but what about the others?
One was the first show Brett and Charles appeared together on... but they weren't on the same tier and didn't have much interaction. Others of significance that aired: the "school riot" episode, one where Brett and Charles have a "fight" and Charles moves to the bottom tier, and the New Year's Eve 76/77 show with an appearance by Mark Goodson. Most of the others seemed a tad arbitrary, but at least it led to a lot of variety being in the marathon.
Of course, it's the one New Year's Eve episode I don't have in its entirety (I have the marathon of NYE episodes from, what, 2000?, but while they aired the 1976 episode, they left out the ending with Goodson), and it's on the one part of this marathon I didn't keep.
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I have heard two different versions of the "Rayburn estate embargo" story. One says it applies to MG/HS; the other, to Every Second Counts.
I think you mean Break The Bank
Why, yes. Yes, I do mean Break the Bank. (I got confused by the fact that in the Rayburn version, the contestants earned seconds in which to do the stunts to earn the cards.)
Question: besides the pilot and the first episode, what (if anything) was significant about the 70s-era episodes that would warrant their selection over others? I would have figured they would have had either the first Star Wheel episode (especially as the first spin landed on Richard) or the first $10,000 win.
I assume that one of them was the first use of "boobs" on the show (by a contestant, no less), and can understand the PM episode with Kukla & Ollie (although I didn't quite see the whole thing - did they ever bring Burr Tillstrom out from behind the curtain? If not, I would have probably went for the Friday of that cast's CBS week, when they did bring him out at the end), but what about the others?
I hear many of the episodes were culled from the DVD set from a few years back. I don't have my copy in front of me now...can someone confirm/deny?
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I hear many of the episodes were culled from the DVD set from a few years back. I don't have my copy in front of me now...can someone confirm/deny?
Yes, it seemed like almost every "non-special" episode was also the DVD set, including one of the two MG'6x episodes. The only '7x episodes that weren't on the DVD set was the one with Dick Smothers and the last one with Skip Stephenson.
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I hear many of the episodes were culled from the DVD set from a few years back. I don't have my copy in front of me now...can someone confirm/deny?
Yes, it seemed like almost every "non-special" episode was also the DVD set, including one of the two MG'6x episodes. The only '7x episodes that weren't on the DVD set was the one with Dick Smothers and the last one with Skip Stephenson.
When there's a marathon of a show I care about, I always check the .pdf against the Excel file where I keep track of my shows on DVD. Unfortunately, I forgot about the DVD set and wasted about 4 eps' worth of space.
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I hear many of the episodes were culled from the DVD set from a few years back. I don't have my copy in front of me now...can someone confirm/deny?
Yes, it seemed like almost every "non-special" episode was also the DVD set, including one of the two MG'6x episodes. The only '7x episodes that weren't on the DVD set was the one with Dick Smothers and the last one with Skip Stephenson.
Hmmmm....I thought the finale from '82 was there.
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I hear many of the episodes were culled from the DVD set from a few years back. I don't have my copy in front of me now...can someone confirm/deny?
Yes, it seemed like almost every "non-special" episode was also the DVD set, including one of the two MG'6x episodes. The only '7x episodes that weren't on the DVD set was the one with Dick Smothers and the last one with Skip Stephenson.
Hmmmm....I thought the finale from '82 was there.
The final syndicated episode (01.15.82) is on the DVD set. However, the episode GSN showed from that week was the the Thursday episode.
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I hear many of the episodes were culled from the DVD set from a few years back. I don't have my copy in front of me now...can someone confirm/deny?
Yes, it seemed like almost every "non-special" episode was also the DVD set, including one of the two MG'6x episodes. The only '7x episodes that weren't on the DVD set was the one with Dick Smothers and the last one with Skip Stephenson.
Hmmmm....I thought the finale from '82 was there.
The final syndicated episode (01.15.82) is on the DVD set. However, the episode GSN showed from that week was the the Thursday episode.
So wait...the syndicated MG got pulled at midseason its last year?
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The final syndicated episode (01.15.82) is on the DVD set. However, the episode GSN showed from that week was the the Thursday episode.
So wait...the syndicated MG got pulled at midseason its last year?
I think that was just the last new episode of that season, and reruns until the fall. I've seen local TV listings from spring of 1982 that still had Match Game airing.
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The final syndicated episode (01.15.82) is on the DVD set. However, the episode GSN showed from that week was the the Thursday episode.
So wait...the syndicated MG got pulled at midseason its last year?
I think that was just the last new episode of that season, and reruns until the fall. I've seen local TV listings from spring of 1982 that still had Match Game airing.
Syndicated "Match Game" taped WAYYYYYY in advance. For season two, 1980-81, they finished taping the season in December '80. The date quoted for the final syndie week wasn't an airdate, it was a tape date.
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The final syndicated episode (01.15.82) is on the DVD set. However, the episode GSN showed from that week was the the Thursday episode.
So wait...the syndicated MG got pulled at midseason its last year?
I think that was just the last new episode of that season, and reruns until the fall. I've seen local TV listings from spring of 1982 that still had Match Game airing.
Syndicated "Match Game" taped WAYYYYYY in advance. For season two, 1980-81, they finished taping the season in December '80. The date quoted for the final syndie week wasn't an airdate, it was a tape date.
Ahhh...that makes more sense, thanks. :)
(might have helped to have had that info from the start)