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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: DoorNumberFour on October 27, 2012, 10:16:20 PM
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Seriously, greatest game show-related news I have ever heard.
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Agreed, but...
Rather than having to stream this music on line, you will be sent a digital copy of the entire WHEW! music library when you register or renew so you can enjoy this music whenever you like.
So will the music library be available for streaming online, or is it solely available for those who subscribe/renew before December 31?
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I just signed up for membership, but there's only one problem: I can't access the Whew cues.
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They'll be sent to you, check the e-mail address you tendered.
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Does it matter if you signed up for 6-month membership or 1-year?
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Does it matter if you signed up for 6-month membership or 1-year?
Given that the prize in the happy meal only applies if you got the one-year deal, I'm going to say "yes." But I'm sure Terry is happy to have your 25 bones all the same.
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I also just reupped my membership for a year about an hour ago, nothing yet.
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I will get Terry to come here and answer these questions himself.
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It's a good thing my membership will renew on December 14, 2012. First, the Cross Wits. Now, Whew!
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Agreed, but...
Rather than having to stream this music on line, you will be sent a digital copy of the entire WHEW! music library when you register or renew so you can enjoy this music whenever you like.
So will the music library be available for streaming online, or is it solely available for those who subscribe/renew before December 31?
Sorry no streaming online. It will be available to new annual members or current members that extend for one year until December 31, 2012.
You'll be happy to know that the reel is studio quality and it is amazing it held up this well for 32 years.
Regards,
TVPMM
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I just signed up for membership, but there's only one problem: I can't access the Whew cues.
Thank you very much. We will email an agreement similar to the Crosswits gift from 2010. We also need address verification for what is listed in your paypal account (for the agreement). So a serial number will be mailed to you via postcard. Once verified your contact info will be encrypted in the music and emailed to you.
We know these additional steps are somewhat annoying but necessary after the Legends of the Hidden Temple music theft.
Please be patient, all of this is hand processed.
Again, Thank You Very Much!
Regards,
TVPMM
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Does it matter if you signed up for 6-month membership or 1-year?
Yes, if you are a new member then an annual subscription is required. If you are currently a member (6 or 12 month) then a one year extension is required.
The gift is truly quite extraordinary...
Regards,
TVPMM
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Sorry no streaming online. It will be available to new annual members or current members that extend for one year until December 31, 2012.
Terry, you're referring only to the WHEW! library, correct? The regular streaming doesn't change, also correct?
One-year extensions will actually be for 15 months at no extra charge.
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Sorry no streaming online. It will be available to new annual members or current members that extend for one year until December 31, 2012.
Terry, you're referring only to the WHEW! library, correct? The regular streaming doesn't change, also correct?
One-year extensions will actually be for 15 months at no extra charge.
The site is down.
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The link to the page to sign up for the Whew offer in Chris's other thread is broken. There's an extra period at the end of the link. Delete that and you should be good.
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It's fixed now and goes directly to the WHEW! offer page. Try it again.
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Just one other thing:
How do I contact the Museum of Television Production Music to extend my membership for a year?
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Just one other thing:
How do I contact the Museum of Television Production Music to extend my membership for a year?
8/10. You got me, since I really think you lack the common sense to find this really easy-to-find info.
Are you kidding? I am expecting Allen Funt to show up and tell me I'm on Candid Camera.
Go to the TVPMM's site. Look for CONTACT. An e-mail address is listed.
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Hold on...gotta pick my lower jaw up from the floor....
This--is an offer I can't refuse. I just signed up (again)! :-)
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tvmusicmuseum@gmail.com
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I don't quite understand fully, is there a delay between renewing and being send the package? Not a complaint because I definitely appreciate this, just a general wondering.
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Okay, I have a one year membership, but I don't know when it ends. Would I have to wait until it ends before I resign?
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Okay, I have a one year membership, but I don't know when it ends. Would I have to wait until it ends before I resign?
"Resign" as in "quit" or "re-sign"?
You don't have to wait. He will add the time to the end of your current membership whenever you renew (as I believe it makes clear in the O.P.).
http://tvpmm.com/whew/whewrenewalgift.html
tvmusicmuseum@gmail.com
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Agreed, but...Rather than having to stream this music on line, you will be sent a digital copy of the entire WHEW! music library when you register or renew so you can enjoy this music whenever you like.
So will the music library be available for streaming online, or is it solely available for those who subscribe/renew before December 31?
Sorry no streaming online. It will be available to new annual members or current members that extend for one year until December 31, 2012.
I'm still not sure I understand this -- given the amount of time and effort it took to find the Whew! music package, why is it (if I'm reading this correctly) being restricted to a limited-time offer rather than adding them to the Vault (not as downloadable MP3s, of course) after offering the MP3 files through this "renewal gift"? That way, those of us who can't afford to set aside the money for an annual subscription or renewal at this point (like myself) aren't screwed out of something nice.
Just a thought.
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That way, those of us who can't afford to set aside the money for an annual subscription or renewal at this point (like myself) aren't screwed out of something nice.
Follow me here. The Whew! cues are being offered as incentive to get people to subscribe to the site. If they are made available to everybody, then there's no incentive. Or worse, people who bought the subscription because of the incentive feel cheated because they thought they were getting something special.
If you can't afford to purchase a subscription, that's too bad. There are things I would like to have that I can't afford either. However, I don't feel like I'm being screwed because I can't afford them.
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That way, those of us who can't afford to set aside the money for an annual subscription or renewal at this point (like myself) aren't screwed out of something nice.
Get a job. (http://"http://strathdee.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/silhouettes.jpg") People who want something bad enough find a way to get 'er done.
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Below is the complete track list of the newly-discovered WHEW! music library:
1. Full Open - 2:27
2. Full Close - 2:25
3. Long Win # 1 - 0:12
4. Long Win # 2 - 0:21
5. Short Win - 0:10
6. Small Prize - 1:49
7. Prize Bed (Rock Vamp) - 1:01
8. Contestant Entrance Vamp # 1 - 1:05
9. Contestant Entrance Vamp # 2 - 1:05
10. Contestant Entrance Vamp # 3 - 1:06
11. Contestant Entrance Vamp # 4 - 1:06
12. Unused Vamp # 1 - 1:20
13. Unused Vamp # 2 - 1:31
14. Unused Vamp # 3 - 1:29
15. Unused Vamp # 4 - 1:32
Great listing, of course. My question is, remembering the MIDI from Randy's/Mike's site, is the cue for the introduction of the Gauntlet of Villains part of the main theme song?
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If you can't afford to purchase a subscription, that's too bad. There are things I would like to have that I can't afford either. However, I don't feel like I'm being screwed because I can't afford them.
I don't have anything to add, I just want to see this in print again.
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If you can't afford to purchase a subscription, that's too bad. There are things I would like to have that I can't afford either. However, I don't feel like I'm being screwed because I can't afford them.
Can you post this on Facebook so I can give it a "like"?
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Follow me here. The Whew! cues are being offered as incentive to get people to subscribe to the site. If they are made available to everybody, then there's no incentive. Or worse, people who bought the subscription because of the incentive feel cheated because they thought they were getting something special.
If you can't afford to purchase a subscription, that's too bad. There are things I would like to have that I can't afford either. However, I don't feel like I'm being screwed because I can't afford them.
...Ah. Gotcha.
Looking back over my checkbook, I'm pretty sure I will in fact have enough money by next Sunday to get a one-year subscription -- I've been hearing lots of good stuff about TVPMM for a very long time, and from all indications it's well worth the money. :)
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If you can't afford to purchase a subscription, that's too bad. There are things I would like to have that I can't afford either. However, I don't feel like I'm being screwed because I can't afford them.
I don't have anything to add, I just want to see this in print again.
Same here. I have rent due next week, and a few other bills. But I don't feel like I've been screwed. If I can pony up the $50 by the end of the year (shouldn't be tough) then awesome, if not, then I'll live. I'll be bummed, but I'll live.
This whole issue of game shows being a life and death matter is getting old. Be thankful the cues were found.
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Same here. I have rent due next week, and a few other bills. But I don't feel like I've been screwed. If I can pony up the $50 by the end of the year (shouldn't be tough) then awesome, if not, then I'll live. I'll be bummed, but I'll live.
This whole issue of game shows being a life and death matter is getting old. Be thankful the cues were found.
Actually, I'm a lying liar from Lietown, because I do have some thoughts on this, and you articulated a really good point.
In Summer 2009 I bought my home. $86,400 at 5.125% for the life of the loan. I thought I was in at the nadir of the market and was doing the Mr. Burns finger tent every day. But then the interest rates plummeted some more. Some people are getting rates in the low threes. I looked into it and for me to get in on that sweet sweet action I would probably have to put up $50,000 more in equity. That's just not going to happen. Am I a bit bummed or steamed about this? Sure, and why shouldn't I be. But I keep plugging along, making the payments that I can do. There's lots of people who actually can't make their payments, so I'm glad that isn't me.
I heard on Facelist today that "music deserves to be heard, not nickel and diming people," and "Either way, I'm not paying an astronomical amount of money to hear jingles from TV just because record labels get all frumpy if you don't give them money for an obsolete business model," and that apparently $4.16 per month is just too damn expensive an expense, and really shouldn't all works just be fair use to everybody who wants to use them and share them while dreaming of rainbows and unicorns and ponies and such.
Dan comes here and takes the position of "if we don't pay, we're screwed." No sir, if you don't pay, you don't get goods or services. That is the basic foundation of economics. You want Terry to say "we'll give you this for free an in exchange I hope that translates into you buying memberships." Maybe that's worked elsewhere, but that's not what Terry chose to do, and it is that attitude of "I've been wronged because I don't get what I want" that earns such derision. Your idea, Dan, is like a parent saying "I'll let you have dessert first but you have to promise to eat all your broccoli first." And that just ends in tears anyway.
I'm reminded of those stellar users JonSea and erica, who wanted music for free and then whined because we wouldn't help them get what they want for free. I'm not going to take Mark's tack, though I think if you have some free time and you're able to move your arms and legs you could make enough money in a weekend to cover the subscription cost, but that's your deal.
One last thing. My parents tell me that there are several people at the family business who are living paycheck to paycheck, that any sort of financial problem would sink them. I don't get that. I've scrimped and saved and gone without, and now I have enough money to get by. If you don't have fifty bucks lying around, I'd say that the problem isn't that you can't afford to buy a subscription, but that you're straight-up unprepared for those curveballs that life throws at you, and that's much worse than missing out on the Gauntlet of Villains drum bed.
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This whole issue of game shows being a life and death matter is getting old. Be thankful the cues were found.
And game show music cues from a show that was on and off the air 30 years ago, no less.
Here's what I just posted on Facebook in response to a fanb0i who was whining that it's not all free:
Here's what you should do: send the owner of the museum an email asking him how much of his own personal funds he spent recovering the WHEW! cues, and how much of his own funds he's put into the collection in the 30+ years he's been doing it, and to include the BMI and ASCAP fees while he's at it. Then ask yourself if you'd be willing to spend that much money so others can have something for free, keeping in mind that if he hadn't spent that money there would be no museum and a lot of this stuff would have faded into history.
YouTube has an arrangement with BMI and ASCAP yet with their millions of users and the advertising they sell on their site, they can afford it, or they would have been sued out of business quite a while ago.
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Awesome post.
)applause
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apparently $4.16 per month is just too damn expensive an expense, and really shouldn't all works just be fair use to everybody who wants to use them and share them while dreaming of rainbows and unicorns and ponies and such.
Remember, this is the ilk who have a tantrum when TPIR plays Losing Horns when a Harley is lost playing Range Game, then post a video of said tantrum to YouTube for good measure.
To add to Travis' story: when I worked at the CNN Los Angeles bureau back in the '80s, cable TV was around $20 per month, but on my meager CNN salary I really had to think about whether I could justify the expenditure, particularly when I could get all the off-air VHF channels for free. In the end I opted against getting cable, so I wound up working for a company whose intended market was the general public, yet due to my low CNN wages I could not justify consuming the very product I worked to put on every day. To add to my plight, in the '80s California real estate prices were skyrocketing, so by the time I could save, say, $10,000 of my CNN wages for a down payment on a home, the required down payment would have gone up to $20,000 (yes, real-estate prices were doubling within short periods at the time). So home ownership was but a far off, distant dream. Since then, one of my favorite quotes has become, "I used to cry because I had no shoes, 'til I met a man who had no feet."
Moral of the story: In life you play the hand you're dealt.
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I'm sorry can we not talk about how expensive cues are (they really aren't and if you really love music, it's worth it) and talk about stuff in life. For heaven's sake, Driver's Education classes through even the most basic of agencies with the most basic education packages cost three-hundred and ninety five dollars (they've got packages up to $600). What happened to a class in high school? I need a license, and I can't get one until I pony up the dough. I'm ready to do that now after saving up, but my goodness is that insane. That's being screwed. Not being unable to scrap up $50 in 2 months.
So just so I'm understanding this correctly, the cues will never be available for streaming, right? Or will they appear on the site in the future? I understand that this is for actually having the cues on your computer, but I just wanted to know if they'll ever be available.
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"I used to cry because I had no shoes, 'til I met a man who had no feet."
So I asked him, "Hey, can I have you shoes?"
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I need a license,
Your definition of "need" isn't appreciably better than Dan's is of "getting screwed."
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I need a license,
Your definition of "need" isn't appreciably better than Dan's is of "getting screwed."
I disagree with that. I bet my parents were getting a little put off at shuttling me everywhere at age seventeen, age eighteen, age nineteen and age twenty, and I was getting tired of taking the bus everywhere and being at the whimsy of the schedule and drivers. The car has become a default mode of transportation. Getting to listen to television production music isn't even close to the same degree.
But that's what earning money and saving up is for, right? You have it so that when a thing comes up, the money is there. Yes, it eats a bowl of reproductive organs that you have to pay for a class, but wait until you own a car and some malady befalls your beloved chariot.
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"I used to cry because I had no shoes, 'til I met a man who had no feet."
So I asked him, "Hey, can I have you shoes?"
I would never have expected a remark like that from you. Seriously.
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I need a license,
Your definition of "need" isn't appreciably better than Dan's is of "getting screwed."
That is true. The line between need and want (getting screwed and not getting screwed, apply it as necessary) is a tenuously thin one where some people end up believing they're on one side, when in fact they are on the other. I have reached a point in my life however where driving is becoming a bit more important than I'd expect it to be.
My point, however, was to echo that there are a lot of people who have far more important things from getting a license to paying bills to buying a home to who-knows-what, than getting the Whew! soundtrack.
But that's what earning money and saving up is for, right? You have it so that when a thing comes up, the money is there. Yes, it eats a bowl of reproductive organs that you have to pay for a class, but wait until you own a car and some malady befalls your beloved chariot.
This is also true. I just can't wait to get involved with insurance companies!
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And that's too bad. (http://"http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzdh8rqGeI1r1ksmuo1_400.gif")
My other major TV interest has a large swath of fandom who were raised primarily if not exclusively to steal things and not pay, so I've probably heard most of this stuff already and for higher stakes.
I think if you were an already-paying customer, then having a couple of questions is reasonable. After all, if I'm paying money for a service, I want to make sure the value that I'm getting is worth the money. I am the target audience for this and my only gripe is that I'm no fan of PayPal
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The car has become a default mode of transportation.
Yet I know more than a couple of people who do not own a car and avail themselves of Seattle's public transportation system to get around, and seem to manage just fine. Does it require some lifestyle choices and does it limit your options? Yes, absolutely it does.
My point was only that "need" is an incredibly strong word and to use it when you're ranting about someone else complaining about something trivial takes some balls.
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Same here. I have rent due next week, and a few other bills. But I don't feel like I've been screwed. If I can pony up the $50 by the end of the year (shouldn't be tough) then awesome, if not, then I'll live. I'll be bummed, but I'll live.
This whole issue of game shows being a life and death matter is getting old. Be thankful the cues were found.
Due to circumstances I won't discuss here, my rent is due next week and the entire check will go to rent. I can't think it would be that hard to budget X amount of dollars a week so at the end of the year or sooner, if money is tight, $50 could be accumulated for the library. Do I *want* access to the library? Hells yes. Do I *need* it? No.
Shame on all of you who confuse needs and wants and whine when you can't have it.
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Due to circumstances I won't discuss here, my rent is due next week and the entire check will go to rent.
Lucky you. I haven't worked since June and I haven't received a paycheck since early August. And my mortgage is due on Wednesday. Unemployment only goes so far.
Shame on all of you who confuse needs and wants and whine when you can't have it.
QFT. What the whiners need are a mortgage/rent bill, a car note, student loan payments, and other monthly financial obligations. Whining about $4/month will then look absolutely ridiculous.
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This thread really turned into a downer, didn't it?
Thanks again Terry for all you do.
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So...back on topic. If I may ask, where's the reel been all this time?
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This thread really turned into a downer, didn't it?
Thanks again Terry for all you do.
Renewed and sent a nice e-mail to Terry. I'll skip eating lunch out a few times to make up for the $50.
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I registered for a 1-year subscription earlier this week. I've been waiting for Whew! - can't wait until it's sent!
It was also interesting watching the first episode of the show - I noticed a couple of the music cues are slightly different and the boxes on row 6 are red instead of green. When a contestant put a block there, it was hard to see it, so that's likely why they changed it.
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I bought a membership right after reading this announcement. Couldn't believe my eyes when I first read it. I shouldn't have let my original membership expire. Can't wait to get the music! :-)
Keep up the great work, Terry!
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Note to self: Sell the various pieces of electronic junk I have in my closet. I'm sure I'll make at least $50 on it. :P
/and I hear they posted the 3Ws theme and some All-New LMAD stuff since my membership lapsed out
//[checks the Twitter] Oh, "48 Hours" too?
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Just bought a 1-year membership. Cannot freakin' wait.
Question, though: in the picture of the tape box that Terry put up, a track is titled "Hey Jude." The hell is that?
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Just bought a 1-year membership. Cannot freakin' wait.
Question, though: in the picture of the tape box that Terry put up, a track is titled "Hey Jude." The hell is that?
I'm guessing a song that repeats and repeats for 7 minutes like the real one lol.
Slightly off topic though, just wondering does anyone know when the more rock-type cues were used Woolery WOF? Was it around the same time that Whew premiered? I'm curious as to see if any of the later Thicke WOF cues were part of the Whew package. Would be awesome to find but highly doubtful. I guess we will find out eventually.
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From the episodes I've seen on Youtube, the rock cues were used between 1978-80.
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does anyone know when the more rock-type cues were used Woolery WOF? Was it around the same time that Whew premiered?
From the episodes I've seen on Youtube, the rock cues were used between 1978-80.
Short answer: approximately December 4, 1979 through August 5, 1983.
Long answer: the first "new" outro cue, which I found out was very similar to "Temptation Eyes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29gt1fD4abc)", debuted by December 4, 1979; the other, which I'm reasonably certain uses an electric guitar (decent-length sample from '81 here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZB5nqJdY_w#t=1m1s)), debuted by the 31st -- an episode which uses the other "new" cue for the Round 3 prize descriptions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLAchsXbck4#t=18m36s). The "Big Wheels" outro cue, which appears to have been discarded when the other two debuted, returned around late 1980...at which point the three cues began a rotation that doesn't seem to have been consistent.
(Sorry if that went into Horan-style territory.)
I'm curious as to see if any of the later Thicke WOF cues were part of the Whew package. Would be awesome to find but highly doubtful. I guess we will find out eventually.
Might be among the unused cues, although they don't really fit too well with the Whew! music style.
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Woke up this morning to the email I've been waiting for: my download link for the reel. It sounds awesome! Lots of little subtleties in the arrangements that I wouldn't imagine would be there, and obviously wouldn't be able to discern from 30 year old tapes posted to Youtube, especially in the closing theme.
Terry, thank you for making this incredible find available to us!
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Indeed--I can't say as I've ever noticed the piano or the bari sax in the main theme before. Love it!
BTW, I didn't want to put these on my iPad without cover art, so I worked something up this morning; anyone looking for cover art, please feel free.
(Link is http://www.benscripp...012/11/whew.jpg (http://\"http://www.benscripps.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/whew.jpg\") in case the image doesn't show up.)
(http://www.benscripps.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/whew.jpg)
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Should I be worried if I haven't received the reel as yet? Or is this a work in progress to get it to everyone who renewed?
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Should I be worried if I haven't received the reel as yet? Or is this a work in progress to get it to everyone who renewed?
Have you received and signed the agreement PDF yet? I got my copy of the files today also.
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I've received the tracks... quite awesome, just as good as if they were recorded today, they're that clear... very catchy pieces, and they fit the show quite well.
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Still waiting for my postcard in the mail, but hopefully soon...
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I just got my postcard in the mail today - I am sure there is a backlog and Terry is working as fast as he can. We have waited years, a few more days are certainly worth it. :)
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Just downloaded my copy this morning and by jove, this is awesome stuff. If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up. </FerrisBueller>
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The Game Show Forum supports the Museum of Television Production Music at every opportunity. Our holiday offer, which coincides with this board's 10th anniversary on December 12, has benefitted the museum greatly. With BMI, ASCAP and web hosting, they have bills to pay, too.
I'm glad people are happy with the WHEW! music cues!
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I went ahead and renewed for an additional year.
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I must say, after hearing so many murky episodes from trading, I had no idea how truly wonderful this music is. It's so very rich and dynamic. And for anyone wondering, yes, every bit of music heard on the show is there.
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I must say, after hearing so many murky episodes from trading, I had no idea how truly wonderful this music is. It's so very rich and dynamic. And for anyone wondering, yes, every bit of music heard on the show is there.
Sent in my "I agree" e-mail yesterday after I got the postcard. Anxiously awaiting the link to the cues.
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Sent in my "I agree" e-mail yesterday after I got the postcard. Anxiously awaiting the link to the cues.
Same here! Waiting (im)patiently! HA HA
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I haven't gotten a post card yet even, I'm sure Terry is going as fast as he can though. Looking forward to it.
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Just got my postcard today and waiting for the music. From what I heard from the low quality clip on the website, the rest has to be awesome and according to the posts of people that have heard it, they are.
I wonder how Terry's going to be able to top this one ;)
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I must say, after hearing so many murky episodes from trading, I had no idea how truly wonderful this music is. It's so very rich and dynamic. And for anyone wondering, yes, every bit of music heard on the show is there.
Sent in my "I agree" e-mail yesterday after I got the postcard. Anxiously awaiting the link to the cues.
The music has arrived! Biggest surprise - the end theme is over 2:20 long.
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Interestingly enough today I am working as an extra on a movie... starring Alan Thicke. Sadly he is not on set today so no Whew! questions.
Will be putting in soon enough for TVPMM... thanks Terry and crew for offering this wonderful opportunity.
Ryan :)
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Got the music today. In case anyone who doesn't have it cares, the unused cues are an extended version of the Gauntlet transition music and three takes of an alternate timer cue.
The music is great, and I'm learning the open and close on drums!
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Got mine last night. Listening now....awesome reel.
Great job Terry!! Thanks!!
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The closing theme actually goes on for a fair bit longer than was ever heard on the air.
Great stuff!
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Awesome tracks and great quality especially for being 'lost' all this time. I wonder where it was found. I assume that the 3 unused drum tracks were to be used for the gauntlet round but I can see why they used the edited drum section from the opening theme.
Again great finds. Thanks TVPMM
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Turns out my postcard was apparently lost in the mail as it was sent on the 4th, just my luck HA! Terry said he was sending out another, anticipation is half the fun though. :)
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I just sent in my money, I can't wait to hear the Whew! music! How awesome is it that they were able to unearth it and make it available... amazing! Thanks everybody!
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What is the turnaround between signing up or renewing, and receiving the postcard?
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What is the turnaround between signing up or renewing, and receiving the postcard?
For me it was just less than a week.
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What is the turnaround between signing up or renewing, and receiving the postcard?
A little more than two weeks for me.
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I sent in my payment on November 14 and have yet to receive a postcard.
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What is the turnaround between signing up or renewing, and receiving the postcard?
Took about three weeks for me.
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I sent in my payment on November 14 and have yet to receive a postcard.
Did you email him your name, physical address, phone number, etc.?
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I just sent in my payment upon hearing this announcement. Looking forward to hearing the cues!
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I sent in my payment on November 14 and have yet to receive a postcard.
Did you email him your name, physical address, phone number, etc.?
PayPal said that it was required by TVPMM when setting up my account a couple days after Travis did. I haven't gotten a postcard yet, but the Postal Service can be a little sketchy around here.
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I sent in the code that I got tonight. What happens then? How long a wait am I in for?
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I sent in the code that I got tonight. What happens then? How long a wait am I in for?
About four days for me, and then a custom download link should be coming your way, and voila.