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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: Winkfan on December 16, 2003, 07:29:17 PM
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We game show fans once discussed those shows that should have ran longer than 13 or 26 weeks; but how about the other side of the coin. Which game shows do you think ran longer than they should have? Some of which kept going to the point of 'Is THAT show still on?'
I, for one, recall when the original Card Sharks was first on NBC back in '78. I thought to myself, 'I don't think it's gonna last.' Three years later, I was glad to have been proven wrong.
Cordially,
Tammy Warner--the 'Mary Anne Ellis of the Big Board!'
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[quote name=\'Winkfan\' date=\'Dec 16 2003, 05:29 PM\'] We game show fans once discussed those shows that should have ran longer than 13 or 26 weeks; but how about the other side of the coin. Which game shows do you think ran longer than they should have? Some of which kept going to the point of 'Is THAT show still on?'
I, for one, recall when the original Card Sharks was first on NBC back in '78. I thought to myself, 'I don't think it's gonna last.' Three years later, I was glad to have been proven wrong.
Cordially,
Tammy Warner--the 'Mary Anne Ellis of the Big Board!' [/quote]
Honestly? The current incarnation of Feud.
Taking nothing away from Karn's job as host, playing the game on a projection screen and that cramped dark Millionaire set just doesn't float my boat. It amazes me that it made it four years.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 16 2003, 07:35 PM\']Honestly? The current incarnation of Feud.[/quote]
Amen.
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Cram
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Winning Lines most definitely should've ran longer than it had run. It was on only 2 months.
The Wonderwall contributed to the show's success, but as stated on Loogslair.com, the home-viewer sweepstakes put the brakes on the show.
And I'm thinking to myself: If the home-viewer sweepstakes isn't a success, then take that element off, and leave the show alone.
This is a CATCHY show with a Catchy element in the Wonderwall. Catchy shows are supposed to last long.
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Dec 16 2003, 06:26 PM\'] Winning Lines most definitely should've ran longer than it had run. It was on only 2 months.
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Did you even READ the original post?
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Dec 16 2003, 08:26 PM\'] Winning Lines most definitely should've ran longer than it had run. It was on only 2 months.
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That wasn't the question.
Honestly, I'm surprised that The Price is Right is still on. The format is throughly enjoyable...but I thought it would have burned out after..about season 25.
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Pat Sajak might even agree with me when I say WOF. Who woulda thunk the simple but entertaining game of "Hangman" be on continously for close to 30 years? Well, except Merv.
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With it's comical cheepness, I am very suprised Goen's version of "WOF" lasted for almost 3 years.
And, I am also suprised the current run of Jeopardy! has gone on for this long. Considering the format has never changed since 1984 in a place where people want nothing but. Personally, I don't think J! would be around today if it wasn't Sony's "Sister Show" to WOF.
(I don't think doubling the dollars is a "Format Change")
-Joe R.
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Dec 16 2003, 09:38 PM\'] [quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Dec 16 2003, 08:26 PM\'] Winning Lines most definitely should've ran longer than it had run. It was on only 2 months.
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That wasn't the question.
Honestly, I'm surprised that The Price is Right is still on. The format is throughly enjoyable...but I thought it would have burned out after..about season 25. [/quote]
I agree...I'm surprised it's even passed 20. I've often wondered what would've happened had it made it into the early-80s or so. Would the Kennedy version have lasted longer? (pure speculation)
Someone also noted Wheel. I also wonder what would've happened had that one been cancelled in the early-80s as planned...would we have ever gotten a nighttime version. Would it have come back with Chuck and Susan, or would Merv have gone for a new team?
NOTE: I'm saying this assuming that Wheel would have been cancelled in 80 or 81, before Chuck's contract renewal came up.
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To Tell the Truth. Not the Paula Poundstone version, but the original Mike Wallace pilot entitled Nothing But the Truth which CBS should never have ordered in the first place.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Dec 16 2003, 11:14 PM\'] To Tell the Truth. Not the Paula Poundstone version, but the original Mike Wallace pilot entitled Nothing But the Truth which CBS should never have ordered in the first place. [/quote]
Do you just not like the show as a whole, or was the pilot that bad?
Oh, and as to the main question - I agree with the Karn Feud point...(but had it made it to season five with Louie hosting I would be saying otherwise), but honestly, I can't understand how Shop 'till You Drop made it as long as it has.
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[quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Dec 16 2003, 11:34 PM\'] I can't understand how Shop 'till You Drop made it as long as it has. [/quote]
I guess it's being on cable and not terribly expensive to produce(made even cheaper the way PAX is doing it this season) had to help it survive as long as it has(four Lifetime years, two FAM years, and three first run PAX years). Stone-Stanley has become, in the last decade, the only successful "mom-and-pop" organization producing game shows.
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'Feud': just kind of sits there; too much forced excitement
'Pyramid': "Is it still on?" With all the bad writing? Saving loads of tape on that one
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I'd list all of G-T's Big Three Panel Shows: WML, TTTT and IGAS in their original versions.
Not that they aren't great; the fact that two of them were in new versions in 2000 shows that. But the originals had looked tired by the late 1960s when CBS kicked them off.
One of the reasons for the continuing success of such shows as MASH, ER and Cheers was that just when a character started getting unbearable, there was a change and a new dynamic. Maybe it wasn't planned (death, contract walkouts) but it juggled the interaction, rather like Looney Tunes moving in Daffy Duck to play against Bugs Bunny.
You look at the syndication success of TTTT (Moore) and WML (Bruner/Blyden) and you see that a shakeup seemed to help. Getting Bill Cullen (who?) also helped TTTT's syndicated version. IGAS, on the other hand, was the weakest of the three games, and wasn't as shaken up (Steve Allen had hosted the network version for a few years) so that wasn't as successful.
I realize none of this explains Bob Barker still doing the same show at 80 that he did at 50, but that's another post.....
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I'll join you with most of those. To add a fresh one, one game that puzzled me as to it's longevity (nearly three years) was Three On A Match. Bill was the only thing making the game watchable. Maybe his personality was just right for that mid-afternoon lull spot. Could any other host have carried that game that long? Not that the Cullen magic can save anything - Pass The Buck and Blankety-Blanks come to mind. I'll bet his being tapped to host them were the only thing that sold them to the nets.
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Someone also noted Wheel. I also wonder what would've happened had that one been cancelled in the early-80s as planned...would we have ever gotten a nighttime version. Would it have come back with Chuck and Susan, or would Merv have gone for a new team?
NOTE: I'm saying this assuming that Wheel would have been cancelled in 80 or 81, before Chuck's contract renewal came up.
What I can't understand about that is that, if you look at the ratings in the EOTVGS, it states that "Wheel's" ratings at that time were pretty good. If that was the case, why would they want to cancel it?
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One show that comes to mind is "Password Plus" - not that I don't like it, because I do - but it's just that Allen Ludden even said several times on the show to "tell your friends to watch". The ratings for "PP" reportedly weren't that great, especially in the last year or so, but it stayed on for three years.
I think the networks were more likely to keep a Goodson-Todman show on if it wasn't performing well than they were shows from other companies. If "PP" hadn't been produced by GT, it probably would have been cancelled sooner.
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I think the revival of "Chain Reaction" that aired on USA was incredibly bland and boring and can't believe it ran for 4 or 5 years....
I liked the original game when it aired on NBC (celebrities paired with contestants is exciting to me), not to mention the awesome bonus round that as we all know was later spun-off into "Go!"..
The USA version took out the celebrities AND the exciting bonus round (replacing it with something even more boring) and to me, made one of the most boring game shows I ever watched and I can't believe it lasted as long as it did.
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[quote name=\'The Ol' Guy\' date=\'Dec 17 2003, 12:53 AM\'] I'll join you with most of those. To add a fresh one, one game that puzzled me as to it's longevity (nearly three years) was Three On A Match. Bill was the only thing making the game watchable. Maybe his personality was just right for that mid-afternoon lull spot. Could any other host have carried that game that long? Not that the Cullen magic can save anything - Pass The Buck and Blankety-Blanks come to mind. I'll bet his being tapped to host them were the only thing that sold them to the nets. [/quote]
I'll go along with this one. Since NBC had programmed at least three other shows at 1:30 in the 2+ years after Let's Make a Deal left the network, I can only assume NBC said, "Hey, the ratings are reasonable and it's cheap to produce; let it ride." One of the dullest shows around, and not useful for host-contestant interaction or suspense. ("True. Wait, false!")
Super Password ran an awful long time relative to its success; again, I think NBC gave up trying to be competitive at 12 noon.
Gambit, The Who, What, or Where Game, and the ABC Dating Game may have run a year or so past their expiration dates. And even the last year of the CBS/syndie Match Game was starting to look a little tired. (I could tell it was losing steam in New York when it meandered from WCBS to WOR -- Channel 9 was the last stop before the graveyard at that point.)
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Dec 17 2003, 11:55 AM\'] I think the revival of "Chain Reaction" that aired on USA was incredibly bland and boring and can't believe it ran for 4 or 5 years....
I liked the original game when it aired on NBC (celebrities paired with contestants is exciting to me), not to mention the awesome bonus round that as we all know was later spun-off into "Go!"..
The USA version took out the celebrities AND the exciting bonus round (replacing it with something even more boring) and to me, made one of the most boring game shows I ever watched and I can't believe it lasted as long as it did. [/quote]
It's interesting, I remember reading an article from Cablevision, I believe, that discussed a similar topic about the longevity of Chain Reaction. They attributed it's success to being taped in Canada, where most of their contestants were French speaking. They felt that since most of the contestants weren't really all that familiar with the English language, they wouldn't know some of the words, whereas the older demographic would feel smarter (and thereby, lead to more interesting play-along) because they would know the answers faster than many of the contestants.
The rest of the craptacular-ness of the show, I can't explain. ;)
Tyshaun
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I'm suprised Whammy! has lasted this long.
Terrible show.
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Super Password ran an awful long time relative to its success; again, I think NBC gave up trying to be competitive at 12 noon.
Gambit, The Who, What, or Where Game, and the ABC Dating Game may have run a year or so past their expiration dates. And even the last year of the CBS/syndie Match Game was starting to look a little tired.
Richard Dawson states something similar on the last episode of "Family Feud" - that ABC kept them on the air probably a year longer than they should because the ratings just weren't there at that point.
It must have lost steam in a hurry - an early 1984 TVGuide I have states that the syndicated version was still near or at the top of the syndie ratings. I know "Wheel" took it down quickly, but it's surprising how quickly.
I've never heard reference to "Super Password's" ratings - weren't they very good?
It's interesting, I remember reading an article from Cablevision, I believe, that discussed a similar topic about the longevity of Chain Reaction. They attributed it's success to being taped in Canada, where most of their contestants were French speaking.
Considering this show was taped in Montreal, that's probably true. Quebec is a French speaking province, but in most of the other provinces English is the dominant language and French is rarely spoken.
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"Shop 'Til You Drop" *and* "Supermarket Sweep" in its 90s incarnation. I really thought "Rodeo Drive" was the superior show back when it launched with "SS." I've come to give it more begrudging respect in recent years, but still...
And as for "STYD," the sheer tenacity of that show continues to amaze me. You can keep killing that show and it *still* comes back!
On the other hand, I have to admire "Street Smarts" for its ability to keep dodging the bullet year after year, but I wonder how much longer it can pull it off.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Dec 17 2003, 03:03 PM\']On the other hand, I have to admire "Street Smarts" for its ability to keep dodging the bullet year after year, but I wonder how much longer it can pull it off.[/quote]
I agree, but the show is fairly cheap to produce.
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It must have lost steam in a hurry - an early 1984 TVGuide I have states that the syndicated version was still near or at the top of the syndie ratings. I know "Wheel" took it down quickly, but it's surprising how quickly.
I remember reading that in Wheel's first season, it beat Feud 16.0 million to 8.0 million. I find that surprising considering 1) the trouble Merv had selling the show to previous syndicators, and 2) I don't think some markets aired the show in the first months.
On the other hand, I have to admire "Street Smarts" for its ability to keep dodging the bullet year after year, but I wonder how much longer it can pull it off.
Doesn't this one air in mostly late-night slots, after Conan, Jimmy Kimmel, Kilborn, etc? If so, I think it still gets decent ratings, at least for a late-night show.
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I've never heard reference to "Super Password's" ratings - weren't they very good?
I remember seeing an episode (late '84 or early '85) on GSN in which Bert Convy opened the show with an explanation that the ratings were very good. He said that he talked to one of the producers before the show was taped. That is the only reference I know about SP's ratings.
And even the last year of the CBS/syndie Match Game was starting to look a little tired.
I think that the show went tired after the Star Wheel was involved and Richard Dawson left. Not to say that Richard was the reason for the success of the show, but when the show went syndicated, Dawson's spot was, more often than not, occupied by either Dick Martin or Bill Daly...those two quickly wore out their welcomes. Also, the humor seemed to be forced and did not seem as captivating as the CBS version. To me, the end of "Match Game PM" should have been the end all for that incarnation.
The Inquisitive One
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Dec 17 2003, 03:41 PM\']
On the other hand, I have to admire "Street Smarts" for its ability to keep dodging the bullet year after year, but I wonder how much longer it can pull it off.
Doesn't this one air in mostly late-night slots, after Conan, Jimmy Kimmel, Kilborn, etc? If so, I think it still gets decent ratings, at least for a late-night show.[/quote]
Pretty much so, in the same way that "Blind Date" and "ElimiDate" continue to hang in there.
On the other hand, this season "Street Smarts" is not doing much better than the cellar-dwelling relationship shows "5th Wheel" or "EX-Treme Dating." I would say that things don't look too good for them, but Nicotero's always muddled through to another season before.
Meanwhile, I can look forward to Jillian Barberie losing both of her syndicated series in one fell swoop (and the only reason "Good Day Live" is still on is because the Ryan Seacrest show will be on the Fox-owned UPN affils in Fox duopoly markets--if it was on Fox affils, "GDL" would be dead in the water by now).
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[quote name=\'calliaume\' date=\'Dec 17 2003, 12:37 PM\']
Gambit, The Who, What, or Where Game, and the ABC Dating Game may have run a year or so past their expiration dates. And even the last year of the CBS/syndie Match Game was starting to look a little tired. (I could tell it was losing steam in New York when it meandered from WCBS to WOR -- Channel 9 was the last stop before the graveyard at that point.) [/quote]
Conversely, 70s-80s Joker's Wild and Tic Tac Dough spent most of their early syndie years on WOR(TTD started on WPIX in NYC IIRC), and eventually moved to WCBS by 1982 before moving back to WOR in 1984. I do agree that MG looked kinda tired in 1981-82, which may have been the worst game show year of most of our childhoods.
Other shows that arguably lasted a bit too long: 1978-86 TTD, 1977-86 TJW, Dawson syndie Feud(1984-85 season with the 400 point rule), 1988-95 syndie Feud(especially the 1994-95 season with a much aged Dawson and the modern set)Davidson Squares.
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I would add "Bumper Stumpers" to the list. Granted, it was an excellent show and I really enjoyed it, but HOW did it stay on for three years? That still boggles my mind to this day.
I'm also surprised no one mentioned "Trivial Pursuit." That was on for a good 2-3 years and, IMO, should've only stayed on about 4 months! The first half-hour was BORING, and the second half-hour was watchable, but very bland in gameplay, IMO. I guess it helps when you're on FAM!
To stray from the cable market, I'd say a network show that stayed on longer than it should have would be "Liar's Club" (okay, syndicated). I found the game to be too close to TTTT and the betting system was okay, but why were they all such wimps? Perhaps I'm exaggerating here, but did any of the contestants go for max bets the first few times around?
Oh, and one more cable one: "Figure it Out." I thought it had the makings of a good panel show when it started, but with questions like, "Do you like cheese-flavored crackers?" and Secret Slime Actions like "Having the first name Lori-Beth" rearing their UGLY heads after the first few months, my interest in the show quickly faded; how did it get two seasons?
Anthony
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How about the Goen version of the Daytime Wheel?
It lasted from 1989-1991, and was pretty good, I might say.
Speaking of the Daytime Wheel: Why did they leave out the King World tag?
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Dec 17 2003, 10:56 PM\']How about the Goen version of the Daytime Wheel?
It lasted from 1989-1991, and was pretty good, I might say.
Speaking of the Daytime Wheel: Why did they leave out the King World tag?[/quote]
Because the Daytime Wheel was, and always had been a network show.
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[quote name=\'beatlefreak84\' date=\'Dec 17 2003, 10:45 PM\']
I'm also surprised no one mentioned "Trivial Pursuit." That was on for a good 2-3 years and, IMO, should've only stayed on about 4 months! The first half-hour was BORING, and the second half-hour was watchable, but very bland in gameplay, IMO. I guess it helps when you're on FAM!
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TP did last for over two years, though only 65 episodes were produced. FAM probably ran it for eight or nine cycles before dropping it altogether.
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[quote name=\'beatlefreak84\' date=\'Dec 17 2003, 10:45 PM\']I'm also surprised no one mentioned "Trivial Pursuit." That was on for a good 2-3 years and, IMO, should've only stayed on about 4 months![/quote]
I think it was the announcer that kept that one going for so long. ;-)
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Zach and others probably hit the nail on the head concerning cable shows - sheer cable economics. As far as Bumper Stumpers goes, wasn't that also a co-production of Canada's Global Television Network? It may have done well enough in Canada to earn the run it had - and if USA was having someone else helping to pay the freight for fresh shows, why not keep running it? At least it kept us from getting a replacement like Celebrity Quicksilver.....
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[quote name=\'The Ol' Guy\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 11:48 AM\']Zach and others probably hit the nail on the head concerning cable shows - sheer cable economics. As far as Bumper Stumpers goes, wasn't that also a co-production of Canada's Global Television Network? It may have done well enough in Canada to earn the run it had - and if USA was having someone else helping to pay the freight for fresh shows, why not keep running it? At least it kept us from getting a replacement like Celebrity Quicksilver.....[/quote]
That's basically why most USA original game shows had decent runs--until "Quicksilver" and "Free-4-All" came along, they were all Canadian co-productions and did well enough up there to continue. On the other hand, USA's involvement was probably also a factor that kept their Canadian runs going.
Produced-in-Vancouver "Loves Me Loves Me Not" was the exception, of course.
And in cable, I tend to go by episode count or number of series produced as a gauge of success, since shows can be rerun ad infinitum. By those standards, "Bumper Stumpers" and the Bob Stewart shows on USA (and "Figure It Out" over on Nick, since that was mentioned) all had at least a respectable number of episodes made, thereby making them successful by cable standards.
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actually FIO had 4 sets of eps, the 2 standard seasons and then the Shark jumping Family style and wild style. Now if you call these seasons or not is a debate thats been going on a while.
Sweep i can understand why its on so long, decent show (especally the big sweep, the FK like endgame is tired though), has TONS of money to be made off of fee plugs, and is pretty cheap to produce.
STYD i still dont get even with it's cheapness, its just so stupid and unoriginal.
I think long running game shows that were suprises are
Woolery LC (almost 10 years???)
FF Louie getting 3 years (count Karn feud seperatly from FF louie because of the new host and set) I would think that would have gotten axed a while ago
Kennedy NTT lasting more than 13 weeks after the drastic format change in the late 70s.
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The panel shows really got old after the 50s.
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[quote name=\'Starkman\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 10:27 AM\'] actually FIO had 4 sets of eps, the 2 standard seasons and then the Shark jumping Family style and wild style. [/quote]
They would have had a fifth set, but "Doggy Style" didn't go over well with the Nickolodeon bigwigs. :)
(Oh, c'mon. Y'all thought of it at LEAST once. Admit it. :))
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Actually that version has recently been repackaged as "the summer sanders show" and sent to TNN er i mean spike ;) ;) ;)
Good one clemon :) i have thought of that one too hehe...but of course im too shy and verbose to think of it on the air.
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[quote name=\'Thad Dixon\' date=\'Dec 17 2003, 09:59 PM\'] [quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Dec 17 2003, 10:56 PM\']How about the Goen version of the Daytime Wheel?
It lasted from 1989-1991, and was pretty good, I might say.
Speaking of the Daytime Wheel: Why did they leave out the King World tag?[/quote]
Because the Daytime Wheel was, and always had been a network show. [/quote]
Well, Super Jeopardy! and Monopoly, both ABC shows, had the King World tag.
So, doesn't KW apply to network shows as well?
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 10:53 PM\']Well, Super Jeopardy! and Monopoly, both ABC shows, had the King World tag.
So, doesn't KW apply to network shows as well?[/quote]
It can--"Monopoly" was always KW's baby (Merv was just brought in under his agreement with KW that gave him first look on any game show project) and at that time KW controlled all "J!" and "Wheel" exposure. Sony seems to be able now to sell spinoffs of those two shows to network or cable without KW's involvement. It also seems to me that the KW logo doesn't appear on the "Wheel" or "J!" home or computer game boxes anymore. (Chris Lemon will probably correct me since he has a vested interest in the computer/video games.)
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Dec 19 2003, 12:02 PM\'] (Chris Lemon will probably correct me since he has a vested interest in the computer/video games.) [/quote]
Naw, he won't, I'm off until Monday and to tell the truth, I've never thought to look that close before :) If this topic is still a going concern by then, I'll be glad to check, tho. :)
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Dec 19 2003, 01:02 PM\'] [quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 10:53 PM\']Well, Super Jeopardy! and Monopoly, both ABC shows, had the King World tag.
So, doesn't KW apply to network shows as well?[/quote]
It can--"Monopoly" was always KW's baby (Merv was just brought in under his agreement with KW that gave him first look on any game show project) and at that time KW controlled all "J!" and "Wheel" exposure. Sony seems to be able now to sell spinoffs of those two shows to network or cable without KW's involvement. It also seems to me that the KW logo doesn't appear on the "Wheel" or "J!" home or computer game boxes anymore. (Chris Lemon will probably correct me since he has a vested interest in the computer/video games.) [/quote]
So if KW was applied to network shows, why didn't they apply that to the Daytime Wheel?
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So if KW was applied to network shows, why didn't they apply that to the Daytime Wheel?
Because the Kings had no direct involvement in the daytime show...the $$$ they invested in the nighttime show only applied to the latter, and was credited as such.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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(especally the big sweep, the FK like endgame is tired though)
OK, stupid question, but what's FK?
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[quote name=\'HYHYBT\' date=\'Dec 20 2003, 06:05 AM\']
(especally the big sweep, the FK like endgame is tired though)
OK, stupid question, but what's FK? [/quote]
Finder's Keepers?
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Dec 20 2003, 08:43 AM\'] [quote name=\'HYHYBT\' date=\'Dec 20 2003, 06:05 AM\']
(especally the big sweep, the FK like endgame is tired though)
OK, stupid question, but what's FK? [/quote]
Finder's Keepers? [/quote]
That's the only FK I could come up with....
I feel like i'm in the Gold Run on Blockbusters...:)
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yep, FK's indeed finders keepers
FK's endgame was find the clue card in the room get a prize go to the next room repeat 6 times (in 90 seconds) win it all
Sweeps endgame is get a riddle, find the item repeat 3 times (in 60 seconds) win 5k...it gets old after a while...but i cant really find a better endgame for that show so well, i still like sweep ;)
Thats a very hard endgame, i always thought it should have been played for higher stakes in FK (often the room romp final prize was less than the instant prize room prize, esp in the Eure version)
However it does fit Sweep well, however applying it to the mini sweeps :-/
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Thanks.
To Tell the Truth. Not the Paula Poundstone version, but the original Mike Wallace pilot entitled Nothing But the Truth which CBS should never have ordered in the first place
What's so horrible about To Tell the Truth?
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[quote name=\'HYHYBT\' date=\'Dec 22 2003, 03:56 PM\'] What's so horrible about To Tell the Truth? [/quote]
Absolutely nothing. But Nothing But The Truth with Wallace at the helm sucked rocks. :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 22 2003, 06:28 PM\'] [quote name=\'HYHYBT\' date=\'Dec 22 2003, 03:56 PM\'] What's so horrible about To Tell the Truth? [/quote]
Absolutely nothing. [/quote]
I wouldn't say absolutely nothing, CL. What about the occasional nudist in 2000-01? (OK, so maybe "occasional" is stretching it.)
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[quote name=\'HYHYBT\' date=\'Dec 22 2003, 05:56 PM\'] What's so horrible about To Tell the Truth? [/quote]
Paula Poundstone. :-P
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[quote name=\'Mike Tennant\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 10:02 AM\'] [quote name=\'beatlefreak84\' date=\'Dec 17 2003, 10:45 PM\']I'm also surprised no one mentioned "Trivial Pursuit." That was on for a good 2-3 years and, IMO, should've only stayed on about 4 months![/quote]
I think it was the announcer that kept that one going for so long. ;-) [/quote]
Thanks Mike... took me a while to find that post!
65 "qualifying" half-hours, 65 "classic" half hours, and 30 weeks of phone-in games. Then the spin-off "Boggle", "Jumble" and "Shuffle" half-hours. All reran into residual heaven. It's comforting to know that the proceeds from Pat Robinson's fund raising went to good use!
Many an uncomfortable truth is said in jest. :-|
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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[quote name=\'HYHYBT\' date=\'Dec 22 2003, 04:56 PM\'] Thanks.
To Tell the Truth. Not the Paula Poundstone version, but the original Mike Wallace pilot entitled Nothing But the Truth which CBS should never have ordered in the first place
What's so horrible about To Tell the Truth? [/quote]
Correct me if I'm wrong: Panelists' questions were written for them.
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' date=\'Dec 23 2003, 11:51 AM\'] [quote name=\'HYHYBT\' date=\'Dec 22 2003, 04:56 PM\'] Thanks.
To Tell the Truth. Not the Paula Poundstone version, but the original Mike Wallace pilot entitled Nothing But the Truth which CBS should never have ordered in the first place
What's so horrible about To Tell the Truth? [/quote]
Correct me if I'm wrong: Panelists' questions were written for them. [/quote]
I don't think the panelists had questions written for them, but I guess it is possible questions were suggested by some of the staffers for some of the less-than-stellar game players, particularly on the 2000-01 version(just like Pyramid helps some of the celebrities on the current version as we discussed recently)
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As a reason to dislike the show, that's close enough.