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Title: Mike Richards blog entry
Post by: SuperMatch93 on August 14, 2012, 12:12:56 PM
Apparently Mike does read the fan boards... (http://"http://priceisright.com/blog/entry/5113")
Title: Mike Richards blog entry
Post by: DoorNumberFour on August 14, 2012, 12:22:13 PM
I think he's spot-on.

But then again, I'm pretty sure this wasn't written with this board in mind. I don't think a vast majority of us really hate the changes they've made lately, do we?
Title: Mike Richards blog entry
Post by: jjman920 on August 14, 2012, 12:29:46 PM
Reaction at Golden-Road is to be expected. While some just continue on the way they were, others offered a calm review of the post. I consider it a nice gesture from the man who has received so much vitriol, since he isn't obligated to say anything. I am pleased that he did so and somewhat cares about what the fan boards think.

I'm glad he addressed the music cues. I don't want to pull the moog synthesizer out every show, but some of the cues really sound timeless to me and I think they'd still work today. I'm glad he seems to know that and I hope he'll mix some back in the future.

Again, this was very nice of him and while some things are disagreeable, opening the floor to hopefully calm discussion is a big first step.
Title: Mike Richards blog entry
Post by: SamJ93 on August 14, 2012, 12:35:29 PM
I'm glad he addressed the music cues. I don't want to pull the moog synthesizer out every show, but some of the cues really sound timeless to me and I think they'd still work today. I'm glad he seems to know that and I hope he'll mix some back in the future.

They could always ask Edd Kalehoff to remix some more of the old cues.  I think a remixed version of "The Bean Stalker" would be pretty awesome, for one.

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Again, this was very nice of him and while some things are disagreeable, opening the floor to hopefully calm discussion is a big first step.

If calm, rational discussion is what you were expecting...you may not want to read the comments under his post.
Title: Mike Richards blog entry
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on August 14, 2012, 12:38:37 PM
I'm glad he addressed the music cues. I don't want to pull the moog synthesizer out every show, but some of the cues really sound timeless to me and I think they'd still work today. I'm glad he seems to know that and I hope he'll mix some back in the future.
Mike has said this two or three times over the last few years, and outside of a few shows that were intentionally designed as throwbacks to a different era, nothing has come of it.  I seriously doubt anything will this time, either, but I'd love to be wrong.
Title: Mike Richards blog entry
Post by: TLEberle on August 14, 2012, 01:25:59 PM
If calm, rational discussion is what you were expecting...you may not want to read the comments under his post.
Which is too bad; Mike's writing went a long way toward my giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Is there a calm/rational way to say "I totally understand that you have your own vision for the show and I respect that. I just happen to not like it, nor did I like that one week a year ago when nobody won their pricing game. That was dog lame."?
Title: Mike Richards blog entry
Post by: TheInquisitiveOne on August 14, 2012, 01:56:46 PM
I think he's spot-on.

But then again, I'm pretty sure this wasn't written with this board in mind. I don't think a vast majority of us really hate the changes they've made lately, do we?

For almost five years, I've sat on the fence while I've seen massive dissension about how Price should be going forward. Now's a good time as any to speak my peace.

Price is doing just fine. I wish Carey could be a little more consistent in his hosting, but that's about it. What a lot of the dissidents don't realize is that some of the things going on now did happen during the Barker era...just not as often as today. Does anyone not remember the celebrity appearances from Barker's 80th Birthday MDS and his 50 years on television special? What about the period just before the show went to an hour, on top of the sporadic occurrences thereafter?

I like the prize variety and change-ups on music. I love the HD translation. I love the set changes. I like how they try to keep the Price formula while trying to stray away from Barker's era. I have rolled with the changes and moved on with it...even embraced them. I even give props to Mike Richards for addressing everything that has been said and doing it with tact. That goes a long way when trying to earn respect.

Some of the posters at the PIR blog, however...I laugh at those who complain about those who get to bid last and outbid the previous contestant by $1. It's called strategy, and it's never going away. I see how some can complain about the supposed unfairness of Contestant's Row, but those are the breaks. You either are one of the first four and never make it on stage, or you're the last one called, make it onstage, and end up winning $26,000 (which has actually happened).

No matter what happens in the future, Price will always continue to be the show that it was when it debuted in 1972. Enjoy it...or move on.

The Inquisitive One
Title: Mike Richards blog entry
Post by: TLEberle on August 14, 2012, 02:02:01 PM
Enjoy it...or move on.
Sorry no, I don't accept that. The show is put out for public consumption. As a member of the public I am empowered to criticize it as I see fit. Others can then make their own choices. But it doesn't reduce to "if you don't like it then take your ball and go home."
Title: Mike Richards blog entry
Post by: TheInquisitiveOne on August 14, 2012, 02:14:29 PM
Enjoy it...or move on.
Sorry no, I don't accept that. The show is put out for public consumption. As a member of the public I am empowered to criticize it as I see fit. Others can then make their own choices. But it doesn't reduce to "if you don't like it then take your ball and go home."

I don't disagree with what you are saying.

There is, however, a way of offering criticism without spewing acid. As I previously stated, Drew needs to find that happy medium between being full of energy one day and phoning it in the next. However, using terms like "Drewchebag" and saying that he will never be like Barker (in more perceivably offending language) can be too much.

Rather than stress about it, it would be better (for me anyway) to simply change the channel. I did it with WWE, for example, and it works just fine for me. In my honest opinion, it's not just about having an opinion, but it's also how you go addressing it. My two pennies offered here.

The Inquisitive One
Title: Mike Richards blog entry
Post by: TLEberle on August 14, 2012, 02:17:51 PM
Well explained. I have no beef with you, we're totally square. If you want to track me down online (I'm not very hard to find) I'd be happy to discuss the tipping point of why I decided that rassling was no longer worth my time as well. Or just about anything else.
Title: Mike Richards blog entry
Post by: TheInquisitiveOne on August 14, 2012, 02:34:51 PM
Well explained. I have no beef with you, we're totally square. If you want to track me down online (I'm not very hard to find) I'd be happy to discuss the tipping point of why I decided that rassling was no longer worth my time as well. Or just about anything else.

It's all good. We're having good productive discussion here. :)

The Inquisitive One
Title: Mike Richards blog entry
Post by: Jeremy Nelson on August 14, 2012, 07:23:06 PM
I'm glad he addressed the music cues. I don't want to pull the moog synthesizer out every show, but some of the cues really sound timeless to me and I think they'd still work today.
Best example of this? The baby shower show. They pulled a cue (it was a variant of the main theme played on an electric piano) from the early years for a IUFB- I don't know if anyone else remembers it, but I remember watching and thinking "Whoa, is that a '72 cue?"

EDIT: It's the IUFB at 3:45.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfxdKu0fvVg
Title: Mike Richards blog entry
Post by: JMFabiano on August 14, 2012, 07:40:18 PM
I think he's spot-on.

But then again, I'm pretty sure this wasn't written with this board in mind. I don't think a vast majority of us really hate the changes they've made lately, do we?

I always thought the board's opinion and the like were overrated.  Despite the new host, the celebrities, theme weeks, etc. the essence of the show never went away, and that's what matters to me.  

Love the first (?) comment that complains about people winning their way on stage not by knowing the price, but by bidding 1 dollar.  Like Mike Richards innovated that.
Title: Mike Richards blog entry
Post by: JMFabiano on August 14, 2012, 07:43:24 PM
I'm glad he addressed the music cues. I don't want to pull the moog synthesizer out every show, but some of the cues really sound timeless to me and I think they'd still work today. I'm glad he seems to know that and I hope he'll mix some back in the future.

They could always ask Edd Kalehoff to remix some more of the old cues.  I think a remixed version of "The Bean Stalker" would be pretty awesome, for one.

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Again, this was very nice of him and while some things are disagreeable, opening the floor to hopefully calm discussion is a big first step.

If calm, rational discussion is what you were expecting...you may not want to read the comments under his post.

Funny how some of the old cues came and went...yet the MG/HS theme survives.  Bowzer, you are not forgotten!
Title: Mike Richards blog entry
Post by: chris319 on August 14, 2012, 10:38:55 PM
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the show has always changed the music with the times.
He is absolutely right. TPIR has an ironclad policy of changing the music every 30 years. Seriously, I think but am not 100% certain, that many of the music changes were to get out from under the royalties they were paying for the Score/Kalehoff music.

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Celebrities have always visited the show and presented prizes in some fashion.
Yeah, you could call Janice, Dian and Holly celebrities, sure.

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One of the things I see referenced a lot is that it is my goal to make the show a variety show.  I’m not sure where that came from
I believe Syd Vinnedge is the source of that nugget.
Title: Mike Richards blog entry
Post by: SamJ93 on August 15, 2012, 09:20:59 AM

Celebrities have always visited the show and presented prizes in some fashion.
Yeah, you could call Janice, Dian and Holly celebrities, sure.

That's not entirely fair...celebrity walk-ons and prize presentations happened in the Barker era, too.  They're just happening more frequently now.  

I'm curious as to why fans dislike the guest appearances so much.  Some are more enjoyable than others, sure, but even if they aren't, I don't think it takes anything away from the show as a whole.
Title: Mike Richards blog entry
Post by: TLEberle on August 15, 2012, 09:29:26 AM
I'm curious as to why fans dislike the guest appearances so much.  Some are more enjoyable than others, sure, but even if they aren't, I don't think it takes anything away from the show as a whole.
Given that a celebrity walk-on takes a non-zero amount time away from the show, would you rather have no walk-ons and more interesting games, or walk-ons accompanied with three one-decision games? It's one thing to have someone come out to demonstrate a one-bid prize, it is another entirely to have Brendon and Rachel (ack!) annoying their microphone all the way through a showcase that has three trips.
Title: Mike Richards blog entry
Post by: NickS on August 15, 2012, 10:31:26 AM
Given that a celebrity walk-on takes a non-zero amount time away from the show, would you rather have no walk-ons and more interesting games, or walk-ons accompanied with three one-decision games? It's one thing to have someone come out to demonstrate a one-bid prize, it is another entirely to have Brendon and Rachel (ack!) annoying their microphone all the way through a showcase that has three trips.

To boot: There's a walk-on once in a blue moon, and there's an over-abundance of it.  Which part makes it lose its luster, Sam? :D
Title: Mike Richards blog entry
Post by: chris319 on August 16, 2012, 07:03:08 AM
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celebrity walk-ons and prize presentations happened in the Barker era, too.
Aside from Bill Cullen coming on to plug Child's Play or whatever, name a few celebrity prize presentations.

BTW, now I can't be sure if the "variety show within a game show" statement came from Syd:

http://www.thewrap.com/tv/column-post/cbs-add-improv-comics-announcers-price-right-19503
Title: Mike Richards blog entry
Post by: snowpeck on August 16, 2012, 07:08:46 AM
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celebrity walk-ons and prize presentations happened in the Barker era, too.
Aside from Bill Cullen coming on to plug Child's Play or whatever, name a few celebrity prize presentations.
I know they did a whole week around 1983 where stars of CBS soaps appeared in the showcases (and chatted with Bob for a bit as well.)
Title: Mike Richards blog entry
Post by: chris319 on August 16, 2012, 07:22:06 AM
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celebrity walk-ons and prize presentations happened in the Barker era, too.
Aside from Bill Cullen coming on to plug Child's Play or whatever, name a few celebrity prize presentations.
I know they did a whole week around 1983 where stars of CBS soaps appeared in the showcases (and chatted with Bob for a bit as well.)
I missed that week, dash it all. And it was when the show was still watchable. What about the subsequent 20 years?
Title: Mike Richards blog entry
Post by: snowpeck on August 16, 2012, 07:53:02 AM
I missed that week, dash it all. And it was when the show was still watchable. What about the subsequent 20 years?
Yeah, I'm at a loss for other examples.
Title: Mike Richards blog entry
Post by: SamJ93 on August 16, 2012, 11:11:51 AM
I know Adam Sandler (the actor, not the current co-producer) appeared to promote Happy Gilmore in 1996, at least...