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So I was reading the bits at the current end of the Claudia Speaks Out thread, talking about the other message boards. I only frequent this one, as most of you know. ('Cuz you'd prolly notice me if I were on other ones. ;)) And yet Matt says the GSN boards get more business. I'm wondering why.
So I guess what I'm asking for is a summary of the GSN boards. What kind of discussion / arguments / flame wars happen there that don't here, are there intelligent people posting there who don't here, is it worth my time to get set up there?
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I go to both boards equally. The GSN boards have some very intelligent posters (TheKid) who always have good replies and topics. But there are large amounts of falmes and downright rude people on there as well. There is a clear line between classic fans and original fans. Some people (billcullenfan or some name close to that after he gets banned for the umpteenth time) are diehard if-its-not-an-original-its-Gods-gift-to-television people who are just annoying.
Case and point: Here has more intelligent and throught provoking conversation and topics... but GSN boards have many more people and, well, are usually funny when reading some of the weird stuff people post. Plus you're more likely to get a reply from them as opposed to here, I've noticed.
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The GSN boards seem to have a lot more annoying people in them....Our good friend Darryl Heine still posts over there, and drives everyone there nuts too...
Not to mention the fact they're not very good at banning people and keeping them away....A user who does nothing but argue and complain about the "originals" and how much he hates them has been under a lot of screen names, but everyone knows it's him.
I also think the GSN boards get more business because of how accessible they are from the home page of GSN.....And people just find a community of other game show fans, and they start posting......
There are disagreements here, but it seems like there's a lot more of them over there, as compared to here. I don't know to explain it, but overall the IQ level seems to be higher on this board than the other one.
One last thing - that board lets you include pictures in your signature (I would assume this one doesn't, as I've never seen one), which can slow the loading time. For someone on dialup, this board is easier to access.
I mainly lurk over there, unless Darryl or someone else posts something really stupid and I can't hold myself back from replying.
Personally, Chris - I'd like to see you over there too. Would make my day to see you put people in their place there. :)
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[quote name=\'daveromanjr\' date=\'Nov 20 2003, 10:54 AM\'] I go to both boards equally. The GSN boards have some very intelligent posters (TheKid) who always have good replies and topics. But there are large amounts of falmes and downright rude people on there as well. There is a clear line between classic fans and original fans. Some people (billcullenfan or some name close to that after he gets banned for the umpteenth time) are diehard if-its-not-an-original-its-Gods-gift-to-television people who are just annoying.
Case and point: Here has more intelligent and throught provoking conversation and topics... but GSN boards have many more people and, well, are usually funny when reading some of the weird stuff people post. Plus you're more likely to get a reply from them as opposed to here, I've noticed. [/quote]
People who like game shows but don't care to learn the minutiae behind them are better served by the GSN boards. People who want to discuss strategy, game theory and, especially, the moving parts of specific sets are better served here. I too visit both boards.
GSN boards are the place to go if you just want to say how much you love a certain show or host. (To a lesser degree, the same is true if you replace "love" with "hate.") They're also good if you want to know what game show lovers at large think about things. To illustrate how unrepresentative we (GSF members) are, consider this: Is there even one woman among our frequent posters?
The language skills employed here are much higher than at GSN. (This may mean that we're better or just that we take the trouble to do things right. It's probably a combination of the two.)
ETA: I had to post this and then go back to the list of topics in order to see whether posting a poll is an option here. That's how seldom it happens.
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' date=\'Nov 20 2003, 01:19 PM\']To illustrate how unrepresentative we (GSF members) are, consider this: Is there even one woman among our frequent posters?[/quote]
Well, we do have Dot--I mean Tammy--the Warner sister here.
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Without taking anything away from the GSN boards and our many good members that frequent both forums, I'm very pleased to see the general consensus being that the conversations here are generally of a higher caliber. (On the other hand, of course that's what WE'D say!) I've dismissively referred to the GSN posters as "children" and Guide Angel as their "babysitter" in the past, and that was probably unfair. Still, Chris and I take a great deal of pride in the fact that our membership in general seems to be older and more discerning. We also know that many industry insiders check us out with some regularity, and I would bet they take our comments a lot more seriously than those in other forums.
BTW, their discussion groups are probably not that much more active than we are anyway. For example, I just checked and found 18 threads in their "In General" section with today's date, and right now our "Big Board" has 14. Not a huge difference. A lot of their numbers are busy playing the interactive games, and a small handful of their members seem compelled to post something in every single thread, no matter how meaningless.
Still, there are good messages there too, and if you want to get a lot of different takes about hot-button topics (Claudia Jordan's TPIR exit, for example), there are usually a lot more opinions posted over there.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Nov 20 2003, 11:48 AM\'] I've dismissively referred to the GSN posters as "children" and Guide Angel as their "babysitter" in the past, and that was probably unfair. Still, Chris and I take a great deal of pride in the fact that our membership in general seems to be older and more discerning. [/quote]
GSN's boards have way too many poorly-educated children (or adults that act like or pretend to be children, etc.) and the moderator(s) seems to encourage 'em to keep on coming. There's only a small handful of knowledgeable posters.
I'm reading far too many discussion board sites right now, and when I start purging my bookmarks GSN's boards will be the first to go.
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I haven't been to the GSN boards, but the way everyone talks makes it sound like the worst of ATGS went over there. I think I'll just do my occasional posting in here for now.
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Well, i just recently found this board and it seems much more civilized. I figured maybe people hee had realized that fighting over TV is silly. I didn't find this board for a long time....and don't even remember how i stumbled upon it! To be fair, i did learn A LOT when i first got GSN from their boards. But they do seem to have degraded a bit =)
j
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Nov 20 2003, 01:48 PM\'] I've dismissively referred to the GSN posters as "children" and Guide Angel as their "babysitter" in the past, and that was probably unfair. [/quote]
It's not unfair at all.
When you have a large number of posters who are 13, and they cannot accept criticism; instead; they levy that the older posters are rude, etc., then all she does is babysit and make these little brats (on GSN's boards) happy.
Case in point.
On the off-topic thread, there was a discussion about Matt Kenseth winning the championship for auto racing. I made the comment that the organization would have had a championship a long time ago had they not cheated. The original poster went nuts, and accused me of only finding fault, and if I don't have anything nice to say about Matt Kenseth (why should I?), then not to post on his thread. My post was deleted.
Also, we are not allowed to criticize people for grammar and/or spelling. It's absurd when people are allowed to type like this:
I thnkik that match game shulld be hosteeddd bbyb Judeee Tuneta.
Really, it's a forum for those with a lower intellect; with the exception of a few.
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I tried. I lasted about ten minutes.
One guy ACTUALLY HAS AS HIS SIGNATURE that he doesn't spell correctly or put words in the right places and if I don't like it I shouldn't read his posts.
Then in another thread I saw three HUGE signatured gifs of some head-shaved idiot making the "hard core rock-n-roll" gestures who I can only assume is Iann Robinson based on the poster's undying love for same.
I did make one post, though, some idjit suggesting that the GameCube got short shrift on GSN's video game block and that they should remember "who started it all." We'll see if he bothers to look into who Ralph Baer is...
Nope. I was right. I'd go insane if I submitted myself to that for any length of time. Maybe I'll give Slashdot a shot instead.
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Nov 20 2003, 03:17 PM\'] I thnkik that match game shulld be hosteeddd bbyb Judeee Tuneta.
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Now tat wud be funi. :)
Doug -- soon to celebrate 200 posts (and one year away from the cesspool formerly known as ATGS)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Nov 20 2003, 04:05 PM\'] One guy ACTUALLY HAS AS HIS SIGNATURE that he doesn't spell correctly or put words in the right places and if I don't like it I shouldn't read his posts. [/quote]
The part about putting words in the right place reminds me of the commentator that Chris Farley occasionally played on SNL. "They usually go with some pretty boy who (finger-quotes) uses deodorant, whose (fq) clothes are the (fq) right size. Someone who doesn't (fq) scare (fq) children."
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The sad thing is, GSN could really help itself by having an announce-only board to let the viewers know about upcoming lineup changes and such.
Someone posted a comment just this afternoon that a GSN employee informed him that the Feast of Favorites lineup will NOT be preannounced... the phony lineup that escaped last week just being a slip-up by a programmer somewhere.
I find this simply inexcusable. Makes me appreciate what TVLand does on their site, all the more.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Nov 20 2003, 05:05 PM\'] I did make one post, though, some idjit suggesting that the GameCube got short shrift on GSN's video game block and that they should remember "who started it all." We'll see if he bothers to look into who Ralph Baer is... [/quote]
You wouldn't happen to know the address of that thread, would you?
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Chris, if you got got a penny for every time you corrected some sniveling brat at the GSN Boards, you'd be a multi-millionaire before Midnight !
Though I belong to some Message Boards that are even more inmature and caustic that GSN's (Though I won't mention them because they don't involve Game Shows)
Though I'm curious: Who is the youngest person here ? I'm 18, but I'll be 19 in less that two months (Mark your calendars !)
If it makes anyone feel better, the Video Game board has less than 35 posts.
-Joe R.
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[quote name=\'JRaygor\' date=\'Nov 20 2003, 03:52 PM\'] Though I'm curious: Who is the youngest person here ? I'm 18, but I'll be 19 in less that two months (Mark your calendars !)
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I'm 17, but I think that there are some people here that are even younger than myself.
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I must admit I spend more time on the GSN forum. The reason for that is because there is a lot more IGaS discussion over there (or there was, when IGaS was still on). The reason for *that* is because of the B&WON review thread. I'm not as much into game shows in general as I am into IGaS, which is why I don't post too much here. I ONLY read the Classics forum over there, and it's pretty light-hearted most of the time.
A couple things about the GSN forum:
Regarding the large images in signatures -- you can turn those off in your options I believe. Just uncheck the "show signatures" box (or something like that).
About the poor spelling/grammar -- There are some people with learning disorders, who "cannot" spell correctly. There is no reason to make fun of them. Also, I would imagine there are a lot of kids there as well, and making fun of them every time they post would just cause lots of flames or it would make them not want to post, because they simply can't spell. I can't stand bad grammar and spelling either, but I think that's why you're not supposed to yell at people for it. I actually stopped talking to a lot of people online because I felt like I was getting stupider just talking to them (not kidding).
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I'm 17, but I think that there are some people here that are even younger than myself.
Yep. Yours truely is a tender 15 years of age.
I haven't been there for a while, and for good reason. The censorship over there is close to tyrannical. At least I can speak my mind here, and wake up tomorrow morning not banned. (Pending that all rules are followed.) That, and with the overflow of trolls (Or folks who can't type in a understandable manner) over there, the intelligence level seems to have taken a steady dip. (Not saying that there isn't intelligent folks over there, there's still plenty.)
Personally, looking at the board now-a-days, I've never been happier to leave that rat trap.
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The GSN boards weren't always this way...
They used to be a board like these boards: Intelligent discussions, which meant intelligent members. Now the GSN boards just remind me of a toned down version of ATGS. I post at the GSN forums still, but not as much as I used to. If your just beginning it's not worth it.
These boards have a better discussion, and that comes from a member who doesn't post that much.
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They used to be a board like these boards: Intelligent discussions, which meant intelligent members. Now the GSN boards just remind me of a toned down version of ATGS. I post at the GSN forums still, but not as much as I used to. If your just beginning it's not worth it.
Back a year and a half ago, before I even knew that this place existed, I loved the GSN boards because of the intelligent discussions. It's really a mere skeleton of what was. Geesh, did it go down the crapper.
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Well, I think that the credibility of GSN Boards have severely decreased in the last 19 months (the first post that I made). I used to post on a frequent basis, but it severly dropped off; primarily the same topics are made over and over and over again, or drove me insane with "Trolls", or the same debacle with Classics v. Originals (I've been a frequent supporter of Classics, but I do enjoy a little classic show here and there).
Nowadays, I work over the fan fiction and the off-topic areas, and make limited posting everywhere else. It makes no sense for me to actually post a question thats been answered before. Primarily, I like these boards because of the flexibility of freedom, and some genuine information. I'm glad I've been a part of these boards over the last couple of months, and I hope I'll have a prolonged tenure here. I do like posting here, and I look forward to making some kick-*** (am I allowed to use that word) intelligent conversation.
-Always looking for intelligent conversation, 24/7
Dave
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Nov 20 2003, 04:34 PM\'] [quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Nov 20 2003, 05:05 PM\'] I did make one post, though, some idjit suggesting that the GameCube got short shrift on GSN's video game block and that they should remember "who started it all." We'll see if he bothers to look into who Ralph Baer is... [/quote]
You wouldn't happen to know the address of that thread, would you? [/quote]
http://www.gameshownetwork.com/community/s...&threadid=64293 (http://\"http://www.gameshownetwork.com/community/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64293\")
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Nov 20 2003, 12:00 PM\'] The GSN boards seem to have a lot more annoying people in them....Our good friend Darryl Heine still posts over there, and drives everyone there nuts too...
Not to mention the fact they're not very good at banning people and keeping them away....A user who does nothing but argue and complain about the "originals" and how much he hates them has been under a lot of screen names, but everyone knows it's him.
I also think the GSN boards get more business because of how accessible they are from the home page of GSN.....And people just find a community of other game show fans, and they start posting......
There are disagreements here, but it seems like there's a lot more of them over there, as compared to here. I don't know to explain it, but overall the IQ level seems to be higher on this board than the other one.
One last thing - that board lets you include pictures in your signature (I would assume this one doesn't, as I've never seen one), which can slow the loading time. For someone on dialup, this board is easier to access.
I mainly lurk over there, unless Darryl or someone else posts something really stupid and I can't hold myself back from replying.
Personally, Chris - I'd like to see you over there too. Would make my day to see you put people in their place there. :) [/quote]
I mainly lurk over there, unless Darryl or someone else posts something really stupid and I can't hold myself back from replying.
Personally, Chris - I'd like to see you over there too. Would make my day to see you put people in their place there. :)
So you want the GSN message boards to turn into he hellhole of flames, harassment, bullying and verbal abuse that ATGS was?
If you want to see people being flamed, why not go to alt.flame and be done with it?
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I too occasionally post on both boards, with this board usually being the first one I read, simply because the conversation over here is MUCH more enlighting, informative, and (damn it I'll say it), humorous. GSN's boards use to be pretty well spoken for, but I believe most of the remaining intelligent posters have migrated over here. If you want GSN news quickly though, it's your better bet, just watch out for the rest of the sludge.
Tyshaun
(who misses those mini-flame wars he used to get into with PPatters)
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[quote name=\'Rhudson765\' date=\'Nov 20 2003, 10:44 PM\'] So you want the GSN message boards to turn into he hellhole of flames, harassment, bullying and verbal abuse that ATGS was?
If you want to see people being flamed, why not go to alt.flame and be done with it? [/quote]
These kids need to be put in their place. This means respecting adults that frequent the boards, and learning proper grammar; instead of hiding behind smokescreens.
GSN would be a more respectable place if they actually got rid of the idiots.
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Nov 20 2003, 11:28 PM\'] This means respecting adults that frequent the boards, and learning proper grammar; instead of hiding behind smokescreens. [/quote]
Respect is earned. Adults can be idiots too.
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I originally left the GSN boards way back in May of this year due to an overwhelming number of "crybabies" that feel I'm breaking the game show moral code for supporting GSN's other shows besides their classics.
And Whampyl03 is correct. Censorship has grown to outrageous numbers over there. I was posting a rather rabid comment on why I felt the GSN Video Games block was a decent idea (at the time it was announced), only to have it deleted the next day.
I have come back to those forums, but right now, I'm getting little results. It just feels like people aren't glad at all to see me back. And there aren't very many "good" threads to post in without saying something stupid, no matter what section you go in.
To be honest with you, I may just end up posting here more often now that I've seen this kind of thread.
(P.S.: Yes, I'm also thankful they moved GSN Video Games out of Thursdays. That block was going nowhere from what I had seen.)
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Nov 20 2003, 11:28 PM\'] These kids need to be put in their place. This means respecting adults that frequent the boards, and learning proper grammar; instead of hiding behind smokescreens.
GSN would be a more respectable place if they actually got rid of the idiots. [/quote]
A message from the moderator over there more than clearly states that he has no intention of doing that. To paraphrase, being better informed does not give you any special rights. IMO, this is almost worse than many unmoderated boards.
So, trying to set a good example and raise the intelligence level over there would appear to be for naught. GSN simply doesn't care.
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Nov 20 2003, 12:00 PM\'] The GSN boards seem to have a lot more annoying people in them....Our good friend Darryl Heine still posts over there, and drives everyone there nuts too...
Not to mention the fact they're not very good at banning people and keeping them away....A user who does nothing but argue and complain about the "originals" and how much he hates them has been under a lot of screen names, but everyone knows it's him.
I also think the GSN boards get more business because of how accessible they are from the home page of GSN.....And people just find a community of other game show fans, and they start posting......
There are disagreements here, but it seems like there's a lot more of them over there, as compared to here. I don't know to explain it, but overall the IQ level seems to be higher on this board than the other one.
One last thing - that board lets you include pictures in your signature (I would assume this one doesn't, as I've never seen one), which can slow the loading time. For someone on dialup, this board is easier to access.
I mainly lurk over there, unless Darryl or someone else posts something really stupid and I can't hold myself back from replying.
Personally, Chris - I'd like to see you over there too. Would make my day to see you put people in their place there. :) [/quote]
You forgot the "I agree, thanks for the info :D :D :D" guy that has over 20,000 posts and his own awards gig every year(hint hint, the Tommy's are coming!)
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[quote name=\'whampyl03\' date=\'Nov 20 2003, 08:43 PM\']
I'm 17, but I think that there are some people here that are even younger than myself.
Yep. Yours truely is a tender 15 years of age.
I haven't been there for a while, and for good reason. The censorship over there is close to tyrannical. At least I can speak my mind here, and wake up tomorrow morning not banned. (Pending that all rules are followed.) That, and with the overflow of trolls (Or folks who can't type in a understandable manner) over there, the intelligence level seems to have taken a steady dip. (Not saying that there isn't intelligent folks over there, there's still plenty.)
Personally, looking at the board now-a-days, I've never been happier to leave that rat trap. [/quote]
Yeah really, when a certain few criticized the video games block, they were banned for that. And if somebody is critcizing the lineup of programs, and what Bob Boden should acquire, them's fightin' words too!
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[quote name=\'HSquares2003\' date=\'Nov 21 2003, 01:14 PM\'] You forgot the "I agree, thanks for the info :D :D :D" guy that has over 20,000 posts and his own awards gig every year(hint hint, the Tommy's are coming!) [/quote]
Oh, come on, the Tommy awards are just for fun. He didn't even name them that, and it's not like he picks who wins. It was just a bunch of polls that he started, and someone else started calling them the Tommy awards. Why does everything have to be so serious all the time?
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[quote name=\'melman1\' date=\'Nov 20 2003, 04:22 PM\'] Someone posted a comment just this afternoon that a GSN employee informed him that the Feast of Favorites lineup will NOT be preannounced... the phony lineup that escaped last week just being a slip-up by a programmer somewhere.
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And then today, they announced the FoF lineup in a press release (which I don't see on GSN's site anywhere).
This is just Communications 101, to the small community of fans that might actually care what they air. Face it, any network that airs old TV is gonna have a collector community that wants to know what they're up to. But GSN just doesn't act like they care.
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[quote name=\'melman1\' date=\'Nov 21 2003, 02:57 PM\'] [quote name=\'melman1\' date=\'Nov 20 2003, 04:22 PM\'] Someone posted a comment just this afternoon that a GSN employee informed him that the Feast of Favorites lineup will NOT be preannounced... the phony lineup that escaped last week just being a slip-up by a programmer somewhere.
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And then today, they announced the lineup through in a press release (which I don't see on GSN's site anywhere).
This is just Communications 101, to the small community of fans that might actually care what they air. Face it, any network that airs old TV is gonna have a collector community that wants to know what they're up to. But GSN just doesn't act like they care. [/quote]
You left out some info, did they announce the lineup through January?(you only put through, I didn't quite comprehend your post)
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[quote name=\'melman1\' date=\'Nov 21 2003, 01:57 PM\'] [quote name=\'melman1\' date=\'Nov 20 2003, 04:22 PM\'] Someone posted a comment just this afternoon that a GSN employee informed him that the Feast of Favorites lineup will NOT be preannounced... the phony lineup that escaped last week just being a slip-up by a programmer somewhere.
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And then today, they announced the lineup through in a press release (which I don't see on GSN's site anywhere).
This is just Communications 101, to the small community of fans that might actually care what they air. Face it, any network that airs old TV is gonna have a collector community that wants to know what they're up to. But GSN just doesn't act like they care. [/quote]
Meanwhile, here's the press release (through Yahoo)--just in case you didn't see it elsewhere:
Feast of Favorites 2003 Lineup (http://\"http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/031121/laf001_1.html\")
One interesting show in the top 12 (which may be worthy of its own thread).
Doug -- soon to celebrate 200 posts (not to mention one year away from the cesspool CURRENTLY known as ATGS)
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Nov 21 2003, 03:11 PM\'] [quote name=\'melman1\' date=\'Nov 21 2003, 01:57 PM\'] [quote name=\'melman1\' date=\'Nov 20 2003, 04:22 PM\'] Someone posted a comment just this afternoon that a GSN employee informed him that the Feast of Favorites lineup will NOT be preannounced... the phony lineup that escaped last week just being a slip-up by a programmer somewhere.
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And then today, they announced the lineup through in a press release (which I don't see on GSN's site anywhere).
This is just Communications 101, to the small community of fans that might actually care what they air. Face it, any network that airs old TV is gonna have a collector community that wants to know what they're up to. But GSN just doesn't act like they care. [/quote]
Meanwhile, here's the press release (through Yahoo)--just in case you didn't see it elsewhere:
Feast of Favorites 2003 Lineup (http://\"http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/031121/laf001_1.html\")
One interesting show in the top 12 (which may be worthy of its own thread).
Doug -- soon to celebrate 200 posts (not to mention one year away from the cesspool CURRENTLY known as ATGS) [/quote]
I noticed that the quote from the "winner" was nearly identical to last year. As someone asked last year; who talks like that?!?
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[quote name=\'HSquares2003\' date=\'Nov 21 2003, 01:07 PM\'] You left out some info, did they announce the lineup through January?(you only put through, I didn't quite comprehend your post) [/quote]
I didn't comprehend it either. Post has been edited to clarify. Sorry.
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As a veteran of the GSN boards, I can honestly say that, even though today is my first day over here, these boards are more civilized. But, despite what others are saying, the GSN boards are still a fairly good place to visit.
I've been there for almost 2 years now and I still visit it quite frequently and after all that time, I can say that yes, there are a number of people over there that shouldn't be there for one reason or another, but there are still a bunch of intelligent people that post a number of great topics and insights. (brettio73, sshuffield70, blanketyblank, TheKid, Tom3, matchgame1977, and Wren2710 immediately come to mind, although I'm probably leaving several other people that should be on this list out)
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Nov 20 2003, 01:48 PM\'] A lot of their numbers are busy playing the interactive games, and a small handful of their members seem compelled to post something in every single thread, no matter how meaningless.
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I AGREE :D
(20,450 old board posts)
Seriously, we had some yahoo who was doing that over at ATGS near the end (might have been Grant, might have been Harvey)... which actually proved to open my eyes to a lot of what that GSN board is.
I try posting there from time to time and find I'm generally lost in the noise. So if you want to go there to try to shake the trees, as it were, you probably wouldn't loosen some of those coconuts.
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If we are still looking for the youngest board member.. I'm 14.
EDIT: I checked it out and totally had forgotten about the long signatures around there. Every other person has at least one picture in their signature and if they have posted a lot in a certain thread then it really gets tiring to have to go through a picture of Peter Tomarken or whoever to read what they have to say. And then, usually, it is disappointing.
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The day Rod passed away, one of the posters over there said that he'd seen it on the news, but HAD TO COME TO THE GSN BOARDS TO SEE IF IT WAS REALLY TRUE.
I literally have stopped and shaken my head every day since then.
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[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' date=\'Nov 22 2003, 10:54 AM\'] The day Rod passed away, one of the posters over there said that he'd seen it on the news, but HAD TO COME TO THE GSN BOARDS TO SEE IF IT WAS REALLY TRUE.
I literally have stopped and shaken my head every day since then. [/quote]
Hmmm... I'd probably feel the same way if I had seen that post.
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My reason for turning to the GSF rather than the GSN boards is pretty much why I stopped posting on ATGS. Inevitably, most of it became complaining about the channel (in the case of ATGS, we WERE in the Fleming regime, so I guess it was to be expected. And now...you know) Which gets to be a downer, despite how true it may be.
And I just looked at the FOF results...yes I marked out when I saw the "interesting" entry. So long as it doesn't come from its last year (if you know what I mean), it should be interesting...
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Then in another thread I saw three HUGE signatured gifs of some head-shaved idiot making the "hard core rock-n-roll" gestures who I can only assume is Iann Robinson based on the poster's undying love for same.
Oh yes... haven't I had quite the run in with him.
One reason I don't like the GSn boards is because he is NEVER censored and I have been a few times. he constantly bashes TPIR for no good reason, and everytime I try to explain something, he'll write that I'm a liar, I don't know anything, and that I need to stop making attacks on him because he didn't ask for my opinion (even if he didn;t start that thread). And this same guy I'm pretty sure has appeared on other boards too, cause he uses the phrase "that totally reeks of awsomeness" and I never forgot that phrase- cause it's incredibly stupid. Anyway, after posting at GSn, I have come to appreciate this board much, much more.
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[quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' date=\'Nov 23 2003, 01:33 AM\'] And this same guy I'm pretty sure has appeared on other boards too, cause he uses the phrase "that totally reeks of awsomeness" and I never forgot that phrase- cause it's incredibly stupid. [/quote]
Adam Copeland's not going to like that ;-)
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[quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' date=\'Nov 23 2003, 01:33 AM\']
Then in another thread I saw three HUGE signatured gifs of some head-shaved idiot making the "hard core rock-n-roll" gestures who I can only assume is Iann Robinson based on the poster's undying love for same.
Oh yes... haven't I had quite the run in with him.
One reason I don't like the GSn boards is because he is NEVER censored and I have been a few times. he constantly bashes TPIR for no good reason, and everytime I try to explain something, he'll write that I'm a liar, I don't know anything, and that I need to stop making attacks on him because he didn't ask for my opinion (even if he didn;t start that thread). And this same guy I'm pretty sure has appeared on other boards too, cause he uses the phrase "that totally reeks of awsomeness" and I never forgot that phrase- cause it's incredibly stupid. Anyway, after posting at GSn, I have come to appreciate this board much, much more. [/quote]
I have had run-ins with said poster as well; (Headbanger26, formerly HeadacheKenneth). As others have mentioned; every time someone explains something, or disagrees with his POV, he will become angry and accuse that person of being a "rude" or "shallow" individual; while such accusations are hollow.
Just like urbanpreppie, I have been censored, but this individual usually is not.
Can't expect much from a headbanging idiot; who claims he is 26.
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Nov 22 2003, 11:37 PM\'] (Headbanger26, formerly HeadacheKenneth). [/quote]
WAIT. This guy?
http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=595&hl= (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=595&hl=\")
..and THIS guy?
http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=422&st=50 (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=422&st=50\")
Holy God, does that explain a lot...
(And as a proud Def Leppard fan who just got his first electric guitar, there is NOTHING wrong with headbanging. In and of itself. :))
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I have had run-ins with said poster as well; (Headbanger26, formerly HeadacheKenneth). As others have mentioned; every time someone explains something, or disagrees with his POV, he will become angry and accuse that person of being a "rude" or "shallow" individual; while such accusations are hollow.
You'll notice from Chris' links above that this "headbanger" fellow found us, spent two days here, and didn't come back. I think it speaks volumes about the tone you guys maintain on our boards that such a fellow would realize this forum isn't the best place for him to be.
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I know how most of you that have come across him feel. And I've certainly had my fair share of censorship compared to him.
It almost gives me the impression that the GSN Forums are starting to be like what some people accuse NASCAR racing of... perhaps they favor certain users over others.
That's probably stretching it, but I'm almost tempted to believe that, if you ask me.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Nov 23 2003, 07:48 AM\'] this "headbanger" fellow found us, spent two days here, and didn't come back. I think it speaks volumes about the tone you guys maintain on our boards that such a fellow would realize this forum isn't the best place for him to be. [/quote]
Oh, darn.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Nov 23 2003, 03:10 AM\'] [quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Nov 22 2003, 11:37 PM\'] (Headbanger26, formerly HeadacheKenneth). [/quote]
WAIT. This guy?
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Yes. That's the guy.
Incidentally, the moderator told me that she read this thread on the board and is "slightly disheartened" that we refered to her as a babysitter.
Oh well...
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(Headbanger26, formerly HeadacheKenneth).
1300+ posts just since July.
[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Nov 23 2003, 11:16 AM\'] Incidentally, the moderator told me that she read this thread on the board and is "slightly disheartened" that we refered to her as a babysitter.
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However, I am really encouraged to see that a long-time troll seems to have finally been banned over there. Anyone who participated in the discussion yesterday (which has also been deleted) about him, knows who I mean.
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I'm probably in the minority about Ken, and I bet I'll get flamed for this, but I have to stand up for him. I've known him for over a year and I can honestly say that he isn't the guy that many of you have made him out to be. He's an awesome guy that's easily likeable once you get to know him and my belief is that unless you've actually gotten to know him on a personal level, I don't think you have the right to bash him like you have been. I know I'll get bashed for this, but I'm ready for it. You can even email me if you want to express your opinion to me. (starsfan54@yahoo.com) No matter what you do, I'll always be there to defend him at every step of the way.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Nov 23 2003, 03:10 AM\'] [quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Nov 22 2003, 11:37 PM\'] (Headbanger26, formerly HeadacheKenneth). [/quote]
WAIT. This guy?
http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=595&hl= (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=595&hl=\")
..and THIS guy?
http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=422&st=50 (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=422&st=50\")
Holy God, does that explain a lot...
(And as a proud Def Leppard fan who just got his first electric guitar, there is NOTHING wrong with headbanging. In and of itself. :)) [/quote]
Its good to see that the level of discussion alone will ward off potential proto-trolls.
OT - what kind of guitar did you get, Chris?
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Nov 23 2003, 01:16 PM\'] [quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Nov 23 2003, 03:10 AM\'] [quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Nov 22 2003, 11:37 PM\'] (Headbanger26, formerly HeadacheKenneth). [/QUOTE]
WAIT. This guy?
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Yes. That's the guy.
Incidentally, the moderator told me that she read this thread on the board and is "slightly disheartened" that we refered to her as a babysitter.
Oh well... [/quote]
Let's see... I know that CD I made with the 96 Tears song is around here somewhere...
Nope, can't find it right now.
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[quote name=\'starsfan54\' date=\'Nov 23 2003, 05:32 PM\'] I know I'll get bashed for this, but I'm ready for it. You can even email me if you want to express your opinion to me. (starsfan54@yahoo.com) No matter what you do, I'll always be there to defend him at every step of the way.
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Absolutely not. You are entitled to your opinion. People may disagree with that opinion, and in some cases with very good reason, but it's still an opinion. I have pretty good evidence that he's a complete kook, and anyone who aspires to work at a video arcade and sticks pictures that big in his signature simply isnt the sort of guy I'm gonna sit down to a game of Password with, but that's my opinion.
Welcome aboard! :)
[quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Nov 23 2003, 08:03 PM\']OT - what kind of guitar did you get, Chris? [/quote]
Nothing fancy at all, it's one of those Kramer Focus kits they sell on musicyo.com, with the cheesy amp and gig bag and such. I figure why invest in something really good until I can actually play the thing, and this is a perfectly suitable learning instrument.
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[quote name=\'starsfan54\' date=\'Nov 23 2003, 07:32 PM\'] I'm probably in the minority about Ken, and I bet I'll get flamed for this, but I have to stand up for him. I've known him for over a year and I can honestly say that he isn't the guy that many of you have made him out to be. He's an awesome guy that's easily likeable once you get to know him and my belief is that unless you've actually gotten to know him on a personal level, I don't think you have the right to bash him like you have been. I know I'll get bashed for this, but I'm ready for it. You can even email me if you want to express your opinion to me. (starsfan54@yahoo.com) No matter what you do, I'll always be there to defend him at every step of the way. [/quote]
Not too awesome, considering he made this post on the GSN boards tonight:
To Guide_Angel
I'm posting this message for you to read, because for the past few weeks I've been chastise, criticized and abused by 3 individual GSN board members gsfan, urbanpreppie0004 & melman. Now I know the penalty for being banned since my existance on the boards a year and a half ago and certain limits, but I feel violated by watching the 3 individuals post negative things about me and making fun of my personal life. I know that I put them on my ignore list, but they STILL ramble on and hurting other GSN board members which was being carried over from the Invision boards. I really want this flaming war to end right here and now. This is the best complaint I can come up with, but I hope you understand me in full and thanks for taking the time reading this message.
All three of these people are members of this board, and, AFAIK, members in good standing. He flat out states that he can't take a criticism, which is pretty sad for a 26 year old.
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Imagine having to moderate that kind of merd for a living.
Asking rhetorically, why do game show boards attract so many of the emotionally disturbed?
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I've posted over there and like to think I'm one of the intelligent posters(!), although I haven't posted too much lately. Sometimes I go days without even reading the GSN boards.
The Invision Board is the place I first visit and if I run out of time before I get to GSN, so be it. I find the discussions are generally more intelligent here. Usually I just read the GSN boards to see if there's any information on upcoming schedules, "lost" episodes, or things like that. Sometimes things get posted over there which don't get posted over here and make for interesting reading, but generally those "good" messages are few and far between.
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Not too awesome, considering he made this post on the GSN boards tonight:
I thought we had a rule of not cross-posting stuff from other board sites. For the record, the moderator over there has bleeped out the names of the accused, AND posted a sharp smack-down of that post, pointing out that the accusations are entirely baseless.
His rant at GSN seems to be a direct response to this thread. Unless his posting privs were taken away here, it seems awfully spineless to lurk here and then post a response at GSN, thinking that he'd somehow be "protected" there.
I'll say no more. In fact if the mods yanked this thread entirely, I wouldn't mind. We should be better than this.
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Well, this started out as a pretty interesting and legitimate thread about the differences between our boards and the GSN boards in general. This Ken fellow ended up being used as a specific example and yeah, in retrospect, that probably was getting a little too personal. So let's go easy on naming names, OK gang?
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All three of these people are members of this board, and, AFAIK, members in good standing. He flat out states that he can't take a criticism, which is pretty sad for a 26 year old.
Yeah...I think the phrase "Don't dish it out if you can't take it" fits in quite nicely here.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Nov 24 2003, 11:24 AM\']
All three of these people are members of this board, and, AFAIK, members in good standing. He flat out states that he can't take a criticism, which is pretty sad for a 26 year old.
Yeah...I think the phrase "Don't dish it out if you can't take it" fits in quite nicely here.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby") [/quote]
As a final addendum:
The user discussed has since been banned from GSN.
But don't waste your time. When you see a thread titled "Pokemon Russian Roulette"; its just not worth it.
(Yet, why do I go back?)
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Dec 1 2003, 01:38 PM\'] But don't waste your time. When you see a thread titled "Pokemon Russian Roulette"; its just not worth it.
(Yet, why do I go back?) [/quote]
A most excellent question. I have the same problem, even though I have cut back on posting there in recent times.
It must be the weather there...
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As a followup, about 2 years later....things seem to be declining overall. One of most respected members here was called a "troll" by the moderator, and summarily banned. That member can identify him/herself if they choose to do so.
I'm glad we have this board...where "moron insurance" isn't offered. Thanks, Chris, Matt, and Dave. (Oh, and wouldn't that be a neat rock group too?)
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Aug 1 2005, 05:11 AM\']As a followup, about 2 years later....things seem to be declining overall. One of most respected members here was called a "troll" by the moderator, and summarily banned. That member can identify him/herself if they choose to do so.
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You neglected to mention that stalking (http://\"http://www.gsn.com/buzz/showthread.php?threadid=77134\") is now openly permitted on the GSN board. Two members of our group tried to tell the poster that it might not be a good idea to post that sort of thing. Both were reprimanded and their posts were deleted, while the stalking was allowed to continue.
And no, this isn't my way of saying "nyah nyah nyah our board is best." There are other game show sites that are worthwhile (hi Marc and John!); it's just sad, though (for several reasons) not surprising, to see what's happened on that particular one.
I'm glad we have this board...where "moron insurance" isn't offered. Thanks, Chris, Matt, and Dave. (Oh, and wouldn't that be a neat rock group too?)
Thanks, Mark, but those few members of this group who have heard me sing can attest to the fact that a rock group really isn't my place. :-)
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' date=\'Aug 1 2005, 06:17 AM\']You neglected to mention that stalking (http://\"http://www.gsn.com/buzz/showthread.php?threadid=77134\") [/quote]
I only skimmed it, and it looked scary as hell. If I was Geoff, I'd ask for an immediate restraining order.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Aug 1 2005, 08:21 AM\'][quote name=\'dzinkin\' date=\'Aug 1 2005, 06:17 AM\']You neglected to mention that stalking (http://\"http://www.gsn.com/buzz/showthread.php?threadid=77134\") [/quote]
I only skimmed it, and it looked scary as hell. If I was Geoff, I'd ask for an immediate restraining order.
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Not only is that scary as hell...but this person doesn't even have any talent. She can't even write a freakin' sentence properly.
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Another thing:
GSN recently opened up a store featuring GSN branded, and GSN related merchandise. If they don't have what you're looking for, you can Submit an Idea (http://\"http://gsn.shopthescene.com/productfinder.php?f=cantfindit\") . However, I see problems with this already. There's no disclaimer or anything attached to this form. If I saw one of my ideas being used following submission, I'd fully expect to be compensated for them.
Just one more example of how sloppy GSN's website is.
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I've only made 110-something odd posts in the last 2 years (and 3000+ in 3 years on the GSN boards), and while being here, I can say that this group is more organized and intelligent than the GSN boards. Even though I am a member of both boards, I can say that both boards have amounts of intelligent and insightful posts, GSN tends to have stalkers, trolls, and more idealist views. Now keep in mind, being an idealist isn't bad at all, but what separates this board from the GSN board is that this is more realistic and has much more substance in style.
And besides, who wouldn't want to read the witty banter that goes along here? A great laugh always happens every day here.
This board practically one-ups the GSN boards, but there's as much more [weirder] "stuff" on there as well.
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I will respond with the same words I used a couple of days ago when someone passed me a link to a GSN thread: Game Show Fan Fiction. There's a subforum dedicated to game show fan fiction. Because there's such demand to know how each individual author would imagine Chalupa from Sailor Trigun: Neon Genesis Dragonball Pantsu would handle being teamed up with his rival Gokugeeta Bu for a rousing game of The Magnificent Marble Machine / Bullseye Three-Quarter-Hour that it merited its own sub-forum.
I'm absolutely dumbfounded as to why such a demand exists, but I've got a running bet with another GSB member that massive head trauma comes into play somewhere along the line.
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Nov 23 2003, 01:16 PM\']Incidentally, the moderator told me that she read this thread on the board and is "slightly disheartened" that we refered to her as a babysitter.
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Wait, wait, lemme find where I put it.
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...And wouldn'cha know it, I just used my last box of sympathy yesterday. Maybe if she exercised some muscle in her moderating instead of, say, acting as host to a friggin' postcount party, I might understand her plight.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Aug 1 2005, 12:16 PM\']Another thing:
GSN recently opened up a store featuring GSN branded, and GSN related merchandise. If they don't have what you're looking for, you can Submit an Idea (http://\"http://gsn.shopthescene.com/productfinder.php?f=cantfindit\") . However, I see problems with this already. There's no disclaimer or anything attached to this form. If I saw one of my ideas being used following submission, I'd fully expect to be compensated for them.
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In fairness, there is a disclaimer here (http://\"http://www.gsn.com/corporate/terms.php\") that appears to cover any submissions. An excerpt:
If, at our request, you send or post certain specific submissions (e.g., via a message boards or contests) or, despite our request that you not send us any other creative materials, you send us creative suggestions, ideas, notes, drawings, concepts, or other information (collectively, the "Submissions"), the Submissions shall be deemed, and shall remain, the property of GSN.
Technically the page in question isn't at gsn.com, but one would think that somewhere in all of the legalese, GSN has covered itself with regard to its other sites as well.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Aug 1 2005, 05:11 AM\']As a followup, about 2 years later....things seem to be declining overall. One of most respected members here was called a "troll" by the moderator, and summarily banned. That member can identify him/herself if they choose to do so.[/quote]It was me. I'll give you guys a moment to pick up your lower jaw from the ground.
I took offense to the line the esteemed Mr. Zinkin has adopted as his sig and posted my thoughts on GSN's board. Several hours later, I received a private message from a certain narrow-minded, dimwitted "angel" on that board, in which she called me a troll. I told her what a troll was, how I wasn't a troll, and that she wouldn't know what a troll was if one bit her on the ass. (Confronting a mod--always a proposition that never ends in the aggressor's favor.) Then she threatened to remove my posting privileges. I told her to go for it, as I saw GSN's board as a cesspool for stupidity, trolling (real trolling, not "OMG, Klauss supports posting opinions which don't agree with the moderators'!" trolling), and non-dissenting opinions. I told this "angel" that there are numerous other boards full of intelligent discourse, specifically John Chartier's board. Oops, Chartier's board is full of discharge. :-) Don't revoke my membership, Dave. You knew it was a jo...
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[quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Aug 1 2005, 10:05 AM\']I told her what a troll was, how I wasn't a troll, and that she wouldn't know what a troll was if one bit her on the ass...Then she threatened to remove my posting privileges. I told her to go for it, as I saw GSN's board as a cesspool for stupidity, trolling...and non-dissenting opinions.[/quote]
*stands up and applauds*
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Aug 1 2005, 08:25 AM\']Not only is that scary as hell...but this person doesn't even have any talent. She can't even write a freakin' sentence properly.
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Be careful. I have found that even acknowledging this poster's existence is a good way to receive several rambling emails claiming vehemently that said poster is NOT a looney, when in fact said emails only cement the theory further.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Aug 1 2005, 03:17 PM\']
Be careful. I have found that even acknowledging this poster's existence is a good way to receive several rambling emails claiming vehemently that said poster is NOT a looney, when in fact said emails only cement the theory further.
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Agreed....I've gotten them too.
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One can spend too much time on game show discussion boards.
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I was a member of GSN's boards when they used to be....ummm....tamer. Ever since the trolling and flaming began, I left. That was in late 2002-early 2003, and I haven't been happier since.
Thanks again for this slice of game-show heaven :-).
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Now keep in mind, being an idealist isn't bad at all, but what separates this board from the GSN board is that this is more realistic and has much more substance in style.
That's definitely true. I think part of that, though, comes from the fact that, it's not that we don't have idealists here, but those who have stayed long enough know that a post like "I think GSN should get the rights to Name That Tune, Face the Music, and Scrabble" will usually be met with comments asking why the person thinks it's a good business decision for GSN to do so. Sometimes, it is nice to have the idealistic assumptions, yes, but many don't say so, instead claiming that it's a good business decision because they like the show (well, not in those words, but, essentially, that's what comes out!).
And besides, who wouldn't want to read the witty banter that goes along here? A great laugh always happens every day here.
Can't argue with that...:)
BTW, a question for myself: Who here does post semi-regularly or regularly on the GSN boards? I tend to lurk there to see "the dark side" of game show message boards (LOL), but I'm interested in seeing who provide the "sanity" factor over there.
Anthony
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Personally, I visit both boards equally. But with this one, when I first tried to access the boards, I had quite a whale of a time getting in. At the GSN boards, it's usually easier access, IMO.
Likewise, here, you guys have posts that take me to GS sites that I've never ever been to before, not to mention that you don't have a message length limit as is the case on GSN boards.
At the GSN boards, they originally locked up posts about credit crunches, but they seem to be a tad bit lax, now.
Overall, there's equal business going for both big boards.
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BTW, a question for myself: Who here does post semi-regularly or regularly on the GSN boards? I tend to lurk there to see "the dark side" of game show message boards (LOL), but I'm interested in seeing who provide the "sanity" factor over there.
Anthony
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I, for one, although my involvement is mainly limited to a post whenever the deuce I feel like posting.
And a follow-up question: When did the decline actually happen? I started posting Mid-April 2002, dropped off sometime in late 2003, and by the time I started posting again on a "frequent" basis (frequent = rare) which is around October 2004, the quality seemed to disappear...what happened?
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[quote name=\'beatlefreak84\' date=\'Aug 1 2005, 03:02 PM\']Sometimes, it is nice to have the idealistic assumptions[/quote]I don't know what "idealistic assumptions" are. All I remember was that GSN's boards were stuffed to the gills with incorrigible cretins who would insist on posting gems like "Everyone knows for a fact that the old Match Game set was better" and "I wish I was Richard Dawson's daughter" and long rants about "constitutional rights" to post such lunacy. Not to mention the everpopular "ILikeHideTheBaloneyCauseItWasACoolShow, CanSomeoneTellMeHowItWasPlayed."
But, those of us who tried to be voices of reason (i.e. "no, you shouldn't say 'we' when you mean "I"... "no, that's an opinion not a fact"... "no, the Founding Fathers didn't give you rights to babble at will on a private website") were the ones that Missy Moderator always decided to be snotty with. In effect she was endorsing the right of her monkeys to fling their crap at passers-by.
I think quite a few of us expressed our disgust - in private and in public - about the moderation practices. She knows what she's doing, and for some bizarre reason continues to keep her job.
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[quote name=\'melman1\' date=\'Aug 1 2005, 05:03 PM\']I think quite a few of us expressed our disgust - in private and in public - about the moderation practices. She knows what she's doing, and for some bizarre reason continues to keep her job.
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It's really simple, alas: There's more of them than there are of us. As a commercial entity, it's her job to make sure the GSN boards appeal to the largest possible audience, which means she has to side with the morons.
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I don't know what "idealistic assumptions" are.
I said that to mean those posters that may not be aware of what GSN can do business-wise, what GSN wants to do, and/or what shows can feasibly be retrieved from a vault (i.e., ones that weren't destroyed). The ones, under my definition, who make "idealistic assumptions" are those who write posts wanting GSN to get the rights to "Name That Tune" and Bill Cullen's "The $25,000 Pyramid," for example. We, as the "realists," know that the latter will never happen due to Viacom holding onto those, and the former because it is largely unknown that the show will make money to offset the probably HUGE cost GSN will incur to not only get the rights to the show, but also the numerous musical clearances. I simply wanted to state that, sometimes, idealistic assumptions are not necessarily a bad thing to have on a message board.
I am in no way defending posters who try to make their wants universal, of course, or those that claim their favorite shows will do ratings wonders for GSN with no good arguments to back them up, but I don't mind the occasional post of "Wouldn't it be nice if...?" I'm certainly not one who makes up dream GSN schedules in my spare time, but I don't mind if others do. I just don't like it when people who do make posts of the "Wouldn't it be nice if...?" type get flamed by everyone saying "It'll never happen; get over it" (that's the nice way...:) ). I think these posts are certainly good starting points for discussion in the place that they belong: a game show message board.
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[quote name=\'beatlefreak84\' date=\'Aug 1 2005, 05:18 PM\']I just don't like it when people who do make posts of the "Wouldn't it be nice if...?" type get flamed by everyone saying "It'll never happen; get over it" (that's the nice way...:) ).
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I don't mind it either. What I DO mind is, when they have it explained to them WHY it won't happen, they insist on pushing the issue. (I subject as Exhibit A, pyramid100's thread about "wouldn't it be great if I could leech shows off of BitTorrent?")
Would it be great? Yeah, it'd be great. Here's why it won't happen. "But...but...but, it would be great!" That's what USUALLY happens.
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[quote name=\'beatlefreak84\' date=\'Aug 1 2005, 08:18 PM\']I said that to mean those posters that may not be aware of what GSN can do business-wise, what GSN wants to do, and/or what shows can feasibly be retrieved from a vault (i.e., ones that weren't destroyed). The ones, under my definition, who make "idealistic assumptions" are those who write posts wanting GSN to get the rights to "Name That Tune" and Bill Cullen's "The $25,000 Pyramid," for example.
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I simply wanted to state that, sometimes, idealistic assumptions are not necessarily a bad thing to have on a message board.
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Idealistic assumptions are indeed a bad thing when the holder of said assumptions clings to them even after he is told what the facts are. This thread (http://\"http://www.gsn.com/buzz/showthread.php?threadid=75874\") is a classic example; a search for other posts by the Scrabble-Obsessed One reveals many other equally fact-free rants. Meanwhile, a search for other posts by the self-professed Grundy Expert in the same thread reveals that either he has more connections than Fred Wostbrock, Steve Beverly, Bob Boden, Steve Ryan, and David Schwartz combined, or he's making things up.
Here, Chris, Matt and I expect people who make claims of special knowledge to back up said claims -- and we take action against those who post without regard to accuracy. I couldn't imagine taking a laissez-faire attitude toward the truth... as David Brinkley put it in his book, "everyone is entitled to my opinion" but there's only one set of facts. :-)
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Idealistic assumptions are indeed a bad thing when the holder of said assumptions clings to them even after he is told what the facts are. This thread is a classic example; a search for other posts by the Scrabble-Obsessed One reveals many other equally fact-free rants.
Okay; I have to admit, I did get a laugh out of reading that thread! But, I feel I should clarify something:
My post on "idealistic assumptions" was in no way meant to be an all-encompassing blanket to defend everyone who doesn't know facts. I would take issue with this poster as well, especially since he tried to claim he knew some kind of special knowledge with no proof of where it came from.
I don't agree with posters who claim to know something with no proof. I don't agree with posters who try to force-feed me their ideas about things. And I'm not a fan of posters who whine when they're wrong and resort to childish comebacks. My only concern is that, even though there are many of these posters out there, there are still some who may bring up a thread like, "Wouldn't it be nice if GSN had Scrabble?" that don't violate the above. I don't mind threads like that, and I would hate to see people who do write threads like that be put in the same class as the "Scrabble-Obsessed One." That was my only concern.
And I can only imagine how hard it must be to be able to, as a moderator, discern these people from the "Scrabble-Obsessed Ones" out there. But, like I said, I would just like these people in the latter class to be able to avoid the label of those who can't seem to get the idea.
And, as I trip off my soapbox and fall on my rear end, I shall end this...:)
Anthony
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My take:
In today's world, I think the only way to have sane discussion on a topic is to have a moderated board.
Moderated doesn't mean censorship -- it's just asking for coherent, competent thoughts. If you're going to act like a fool, prepare to be banned.
My timeline with game shows and online has been atgs, then starting up GS-L, then being offline for awhile and coming back on here, if even only to lurk until recently. I've been on another board that's modded well, and I think that's the way to go.
I come back here for Matt and Lemon, the Mackey Brothers and Klauss, et. al., because I know who they are from years past. Not to take anything away from some of the newer people, but that's why I read them -- I can count on not seeing "Bob Barker Shits his Pants" from any of them... just actual discussion about game shows.
That's why, in summary, that you won't see me on a GSN board. Even if they ban Mike.
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[quote name=\'Strikerz04\' date=\'Aug 1 2005, 05:50 PM\'][quote name=\'beatlefreak84\' date=\'Aug 1 2005, 05:02 PM\']
BTW, a question for myself: Who here does post semi-regularly or regularly on the GSN boards? I tend to lurk there to see "the dark side" of game show message boards (LOL), but I'm interested in seeing who provide the "sanity" factor over there.
Anthony
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I, for one, although my involvement is mainly limited to a post whenever the deuce I feel like posting.
And a follow-up question: When did the decline actually happen? I started posting Mid-April 2002, dropped off sometime in late 2003, and by the time I started posting again on a "frequent" basis (frequent = rare) which is around October 2004, the quality seemed to disappear...what happened?
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Dave, my brutha, it's been going down for awhile.
But as most people know, I post both here and there. It allows me to vent about programming (mainly, how bad the new stuff is), and try out updated game show formats (like Card Sharks.......which Dave is currently losing $250-$0).
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[quote name=\'megamanj1986\' date=\'Aug 1 2005, 05:50 PM\']Personally, I visit both boards equally. But with this one, when I first tried to access the boards, I had quite a whale of a time getting in. At the GSN boards, it's
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Not sure if you knew or not, but you can always stayed logged in here as well, and just set a bookmark...and bam! You're here.
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The only place I visit the GSN boards is the Classic TV Board..And I only really post in the B@W Overnight thread..That particular thread seems to have the most coherent, interesting conversation about my biggest interest-Classic Game Shows. The whining about Credit crunches does get tiresome and You wish some that complain so much would get a life..So I stay away from most other topics.
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Think of Matt, Chris and David as Nanny Deb, Nanny Stella and Nanny Yvonne (but not necessarily in that order). There are parallels between the Game Show Forum and Nanny 911, believe me.
What's one of the first things Nanny does when she arrives at a new home? RULES! The Eligibility Requirements were very thoughtfully and carefully drafted before we opened up shop, and as much as feasible, members are expected to adhere to them. I firmly believe that is a major key to the success of this board.
Nowhere in the rules does it say we will sanction members for holiding a particular opinion or point of view. Nowhere does it say we will sanction members for being "stupid" or "annoying", because there is no objective standard for "stupid" or "annoying". What is "annoying" to one person might be "ho-hum" to another.
Some members generate a lot of heat and a lot of light, while some members generate more light than heat. It is the member who generates more heat than light who is most likely to hear from us. That said, it is a fine line which separates order on the board and the stifling of discussion.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Aug 1 2005, 11:25 AM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Aug 1 2005, 08:21 AM\'][quote name=\'dzinkin\' date=\'Aug 1 2005, 06:17 AM\']You neglected to mention that stalking (http://\"http://www.gsn.com/buzz/showthread.php?threadid=77134\") [/quote]
I only skimmed it, and it looked scary as hell. If I was Geoff, I'd ask for an immediate restraining order.
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Not only is that scary as hell...but this person doesn't even have any talent. She can't even write a freakin' sentence properly.
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UPDATE
In an e-mail received sometime overnight, Passepartout wrote the following:
Thanks you are an retard too!
Shelby, did it ever occur to you that by saying this, you're calling yourself a retard?
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Aug 2 2005, 11:47 AM\']UPDATE
In an e-mail received sometime overnight, Passepartout wrote the following:
Thanks you are an retard too!
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Steve (and anybody else who gets e-mails from Shelby),
Just ignore her. She has more issues than TV Guide. She's not willing to take the first step--admitting she has a problem. Don't waste your time and effort with her.
I can't wait to hear from you tonight, Shel!
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So, I was curious.
I had to see what crap Passepatoot was spewing on the GSN board about Geoff Edwards....so I searched for GEd....and found....
A 10 page fan fiction story about falling in love with Geoff. Ten Pages. Nursing him back to health. Holding his hand. Forbidden love.
Holy S#@&*(IT.
The worst part is , i'm not even sure it was passingtoots work. Which is even scarier, to know that there are two obsessive Geoff Edwards fans out there.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Aug 2 2005, 06:01 PM\']The worst part is , i'm not even sure it was passingtoots work. Which is even scarier, to know that there are two obsessive Geoff Edwards fans out there.
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No, Matt, that would be her work.
Even sadder that GSN doesn't have any problems with that, because I couldn't read very far into it without my stomach turning. Let's hope Mr. Edwards never comes across it.
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Aug 2 2005, 05:17 PM\'][quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Aug 2 2005, 06:01 PM\']The worst part is , i'm not even sure it was passingtoots work. Which is even scarier, to know that there are two obsessive Geoff Edwards fans out there.
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No, Matt, that would be her work.
Even sadder that GSN doesn't have any problems with that, because I couldn't read very far into it without my stomach turning. Let's hope Mr. Edwards never comes across it.
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Knowing that they're one and the same, what's the appropiate response here.....
I feel.....better?
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6. Harassment of Members
Harassment of board members via email or by any other means will be grounds for disciplinary action.
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I believe that this has gone on far enough as well.