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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: weaklink75 on May 17, 2010, 11:07:25 AM
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It's an hour-long called "Family Game Night"- I'm thinking this is the weekly one being talked about. No word on the Pictureka show that was in the works.
http://corporate.discovery.com/discovery-n...t-with-wave-of/ (http://\"http://corporate.discovery.com/discovery-news/the-hub-heads-into-advertiser-upfront-with-wave-of/\")
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[quote name=\'weaklink75\' post=\'240971\' date=\'May 17 2010, 10:07 AM\']It's an hour-long called "Family Game Night"- I'm thinking this is the weekly one being talked about. No word on the Pictureka show that was in the works.
http://corporate.discovery.com/discovery-n...t-with-wave-of/ (http://\"http://corporate.discovery.com/discovery-news/the-hub-heads-into-advertiser-upfront-with-wave-of/\")[/quote]
I'm looking forward to the Connect Four segment, presumably with checkers 3' in diameter and a 3-story-tall game board! Maybe in a 21st Century twist, opposing players will be on a narrow greased catwalk atop the board, each with a giant cushion to protect a column.
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Very OT: Per that press release, The Hub will also show Fraggle Rock. I'm more excited about that than Family Game Night.
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[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'240984\' date=\'May 17 2010, 04:11 PM\']Very OT: Per that press release, The Hub will also show Fraggle Rock. I'm more excited about that than Family Game Night.[/quote]
Fraggle Rock is why I'm "Uncle Traveling Matt" to some of my friends' children (most of whom are in college now...geez).
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'240979\' date=\'May 17 2010, 11:45 AM\']I'm looking forward to the Connect Four segment, presumably with checkers 3' in diameter and a 3-story-tall game board! Maybe in a 21st Century twist, opposing players will be on a narrow greased catwalk atop the board, each with a giant cushion to protect a column.[/quote]
Will celebs be involved in this? :) (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTKuSNM0BAM\")
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I want mega-size "Operation".
/is Hasbro "Guess Who" as well?
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'240987\' date=\'May 17 2010, 04:47 PM\']/is Hasbro "Guess Who" as well?[/quote]
Milton Bradley, not to be confused with the temperamental baseball player.
If anyone from The Hub is reading, I have some intriguing ideas for new Yahtzee and Taboo games, and make everyone forget about the Marshall and Wylde versions.
/Okay, they were ALREADY forgotten about
//Resume available upon request
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'240987\' date=\'May 17 2010, 04:47 PM\']I want mega-size "Operation".[/quote]
It was already done... (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxV6fA4NauM\")but it could work again (the thing is they have to figure out how to flow the games together to fit a GS format- but I trust Bob Boden and his crew can get it right). Just about any of the Parker Brothers/Milton Bradley line can be used (both owned by Hasbro)..
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'240988\' date=\'May 17 2010, 05:08 PM\'][quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'240987\' date=\'May 17 2010, 04:47 PM\']/is Hasbro "Guess Who" as well?[/quote]
Milton Bradley.[/quote]
Which, just so we're clear, is owned by Hasbro.
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[quote name=\'weaklink75\' post=\'240989\' date=\'May 17 2010, 05:17 PM\']the thing is they have to figure out how to flow the games together to fit a GS format- but I trust Bob Boden and his crew can get it right)[/quote]
Adapt maybe six or seven games, play with two teams. Each game is played each day. Winners stay on until defeated or win the rotation of games. Maybe at the end of the "season" you could have some sort of tournament of champions.
/Cubs fan, so I do know about "Milton Bradley"
EDIT: The video game "version" (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Game_Night\") includes Battleship, Boggle, Connect Four, Sorry!, Sorry! Sliders and Yahtzee (and Scrabble was in another version)...games that seem kind of adaptable to TV. I'd add Perfection to the rotation, too.
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Other Hasbro games I can think of:
Game of Life
Clue
Pictionary
Pay Day
Scattergories
Parcheesi
Twister
Magic 8 Ball
Ouija
Mystery Date - late nights for this one.
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[quote name=\'BillCullen1\' post=\'241006\' date=\'May 17 2010, 10:25 PM\']Other Hasbro games I can think of:
<snip>[/quote]
If I were in charge, I'd only want to have head-to-head games that could be completed in about 10 minutes and be visually interesting throughout. That takes out half your list, more or less.
My thinking was 4 families, low scorer eliminated after each game; winner goes to do some game of chance (like Yahtzee) for the major prize.
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[quote name=\'BillCullen1\' post=\'241006\' date=\'May 17 2010, 10:25 PM\']Other Hasbro games I can think of:
Game of Life[/quote]
To me, this has the same problem as Monopoly, too complex to play in 22 minutes.
Clue
With some creative liberties, it could make for a nice murder mystery...but with the same characters, it could get repetitive.
Pictionary
With the proper execution. I liked the Alan Thicke version, but it was a bit pedestrian at times. I guess there's only so much you can do with a drawing game show.
Pay Day
Haven't played in years, but with some modifications, it could have potential. However, it could also fall into the Life/Monopoly trap.
Scattergories
We agree here.
Parcheesi
Twister
Magic 8 Ball
Ouija
Don't know how any of these could translate to a game show.
Mystery Date - late nights for this one.
Perhaps.
Honestly, the ones I could see working are Yahtzee (if altered the way Scrabble was for TV), Taboo, Scattergories, and maybe a new Boggle, minus the touch-tone phone element.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'241014\' date=\'May 18 2010, 12:59 AM\']
Pictionary
With the proper execution. I liked the Alan Thicke version, but it was a bit pedestrian at times. I guess there's only so much you can do with a drawing game show.[/quote]
My biggest issue I had with the show was the rounds took way too long, which made the rather simplistic gameplay drag bad. Loved the bonus round though.
/Wasn't it also pretty much the only game show out there besides WOF, J! and TPIR in 1996 disregarding cable?
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[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'241015\' date=\'May 18 2010, 02:20 AM\']/Wasn't it also pretty much the only game show out there besides WOF, J! and TPIR in 1996 disregarding cable?[/quote]
'97, but there was also Dating, Newlywed, and on weekends Click and Peer Pressure.
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At least the Hub is off to a good start acquiring Family Game Night. Perfect for the Family Prime slot.
As for the games, I can visualize an oversized Twister gameboard with a giant Twister wheel. It's a fun party game if you don't mind bending over backwards. Operation might work, but with a few tweaks & modifications, it must be updated to today's standards, A giant Connect Four board may look interesting, but you need somebody on the catwalk to "drop" that 3' chip in place. It can get hectic sometimes so I probably wouldn't want that. A good quick starter game would be Perfection where it's a race against time. Yathzee is a good bonus game, but there was a board game version that uses cards. Can't remember what it was called(I played that version back in 1993 at the Jersey shore).
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Yathzee is a good bonus game, but there was a board game version that uses cards. Can't remember what it was called(I played that version back in 1993 at the Jersey shore).
Was it Showdown Yahtzee (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/1331/showdown-yahtzee)? It's the only one I can think of that uses cards, and was released in 1991 so it fits your timeframe. I actually thought the game went unreleased for many years, until I found a copy at a thrift store near my home around 2007-08.
It really amazes me what I've found at second-hand stores...
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[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'241022\' date=\'May 18 2010, 11:12 AM\']It really amazes me what I've found at second-hand stores...[/quote]
Look harder, maybe you'll find a copy of Life.
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[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'241022\' date=\'May 18 2010, 11:12 AM\']I also have a nearby library that also sells second-hand items. I've gotten The Singing Bee (unopened!) ...[/quote]
My local Goodwill has tons of these for sale at cut rate, along with a DVD Donnymid game.
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'241028\' date=\'May 18 2010, 09:31 AM\']Look harder, maybe you'll find a copy of Life.[/quote]
Honestly, I wouldn't even wish that on him...
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'241028\' date=\'May 18 2010, 12:31 PM\']Look harder, maybe you'll find a copy of Life.[/quote]Five points and a hearty "Way to go." :)
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'241014\' date=\'May 18 2010, 01:59 AM\'][quote name=\'BillCullen1\' post=\'241006\' date=\'May 17 2010, 10:25 PM\']Other Hasbro games I can think of:
Clue
With some creative liberties, it could make for a nice murder mystery...but with the same characters, it could get repetitive.
[/quote][/quote]
Well it did last in the UK for four seasons...admittedly they did change the core 6 characters every year. (http://\"http://ukgameshows.com/ukgs/Cluedo\")
Mousetrap could be good too... (http://\"http://ukgameshows.com/ukgs/Motormouth\")
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'241028\' date=\'May 18 2010, 12:31 PM\'][quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'241022\' date=\'May 18 2010, 11:12 AM\']It really amazes me what I've found at second-hand stores...[/quote]Look harder, maybe you'll find a copy of Life.[/quote]
... And what is that supposed to mean? Mocking me for scouring second-hand shops for board games?
Lots of cool and interesting things have been found/recovered in that manner. That long-since-destroyed show with both of its existing episodes held by UCLA? A third was found on a videotape bought at a consignment shop. Or at a garage sale. Or in a grandma's attic. Or in a dumpster. Or in an x-year-old VCR that was put on the side of the road because its cords were missing. Or in a batch of random videotapes sold on Ebay.
I can't always get to a big-time store, Mike (I walk everywhere I go), but manage to find some good deals at Second-Hand Warehouse. I don't know whether that was your intention, or whatever, but I shouldn't "earn" that sort of comment through anything I do -- least of all because most of my recent board-game acquisitions were through SHW.
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I have an idea for Twister that can be made into a game show...
\ minus the physical contact...
\\ and played with clothes...
\\\ I miss college already
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40 minutes and no whoosh yet?
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Then I would appreciate your explaining what you meant, Mike. How was I supposed to take "Maybe you'll find a copy of Life" without it meaning "Get a life", hm?
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One other game that would work well is Outburst. Perfect for two families to compete against each other.
Scrabble, Boggle, Trivial Pursuit, Yahtzee and Taboo have been done, but they can certainly be redone. Not sure if the word puzzle game Jumble is licensed by Hasbro.
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Well, I'm going to have to mea culpa and self-whoosh, because I didn't think you got the pun, but your second diatribe has proven me wrong...
...but...
The quip had nothing to do with board games. I have over 100 myself. Just had two things that stopped me: 1-moving (since that takes tons of boxes) and 2-seeing Matt's collection. I instantly knew I was never going to catch up.
Another board game to add to a reasonably good family game show would be Across Words. I'll still be holding out for the All New Diplomacy-Civilization Fortnight.
--Mike
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'240988\' date=\'May 17 2010, 05:08 PM\']If anyone from The Hub is reading, I have some intriguing ideas for new Yahtzee and Taboo games, and make everyone forget about the Marshall and Wylde versions.[/quote]
I don't think it's been mentioned yet but the brainchild who's been developing these programs is Mandel Ilagan. He was a terrific pickup for Hasbro's TV operation.
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Considering that Mandel's not only a huge game show fan (along with Boden) but also created Half Off, I suddenly feel a boost of confidence in Boden's new endeavor.
On a side note, a few people at BuzzerBlog were hoping that Scrabble (the game show) would be revived (preferably with no huge changes) for the new network. Should Hasbro be all for it and Fremantle doesn't try to screw yet another revival up -- in fact, Fremantle, just give the rights to Hasbro and go away. Don't interfere, don't suggest anything, don't even be within 300 miles of it.
Which reminds me -- what's Fremantle's reasoning for retooling formats that generally need little if any retooling?
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[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'241074\' date=\'May 18 2010, 07:33 PM\']Considering that Mandel is not only a huge game show fan (along with Boden), but also created Half Off, I suddenly feel a boost of confidence in Boden's new endeavor.[/quote] He's as big a fan as they come, but I would file Half-Off under 'minimally exceptional,' and I think I'm being very charitable in that.
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For the record, by "folks" he means around two or three commenters said it, not me or more than like one or two percent of the commenters. I'm staying far away from those comments since it's simply not going to happen and almost delusional to think so.
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[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'241074\' date=\'May 18 2010, 10:33 PM\']Which reminds me -- what is Fremantle's reasoning for retooling formats that needed zero retooling?[/quote]
It was because some people were trying to stroke their egos, by attempting to reinvent the wheel.
Card Sharks was a prime example from 2000-2001. With some of those who were caught in the crossfire of that production drama, it still lingers to this day.
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[quote name=\'dazztardly\' post=\'241110\' date=\'May 19 2010, 05:41 PM\']It was because some people were trying to stroke their egos, by attempting to reinvent the wheel.
Card Sharks was a prime example from 2000-2001. With some of those who were caught in the crossfire of that production drama, it still lingers to this day.[/quote]
And strangely enough, they manage to miss the small aesthetic things that don't absolutely no difference on the show, but wouldn't hurt either. A few examples: the bells on Feud signaling the #1 answer or when a family steals the bank, CG'g the amount of a prize on LMaD. Again, makes no difference on the final production, but it at least makes the show look a little more polished IMO.
And don't even get me started on the gratuitous applause over everything.
/Resume still available upon request
//I promise to treat your show as something more than just a quick paycheck
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[quote name=\'BillCullen1\' post=\'241006\' date=\'May 17 2010, 08:25 PM\']Other Hasbro games I can think of:
Game of Life
Clue
Pictionary
Pay Day
Scattergories
Parcheesi
Twister
Magic 8 Ball
Ouija
Mystery Date - late nights for this one.[/quote]
Going down the Ol' Parker Brothers road...
Risk (Leaning towards the Where In The World Is Carmen Sandiego geography angle rather than the war angle).
And of course, "Million Dollar Pit" :)
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'241119\' date=\'May 19 2010, 09:22 PM\']And of course, "Million Dollar Pit" :)[/quote]
They already tried "Set For Life" once.
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[quote name=\'dazztardly\' post=\'241110\' date=\'May 19 2010, 02:41 PM\']With some of those who were caught in the crossfire of that production drama, it still lingers to this day.[/quote]Wait, what? For a show that was finished ten years ago, there are still lingering anything? I don't buy it.
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'241111\' date=\'May 19 2010, 02:46 PM\']And strangely enough, they manage to miss the small aesthetic things that don't absolutely no difference on the show, but wouldn't hurt either.[/quote] But they would add something. I've been watching the episodes this season, and it seems like Number One is just another answer. The thing about the bell as a sound effect is that after watching a couple of times, you knew what had happened, whether it was winning the face-off, or a successful steal, or failing it at Fast Money. Now they have the horn section for the face off, that tension bed for Bullseye/Fast Money, and with just three questions, the game is over before you really have a chance to get into it. Whether or not they're just going through the motions to put out a product with as little effort as possible, it is less fun and exciting as the version I grew up with, which is too bad.
/Resume still available upon request
//I promise to treat your show as something more than just a quick paycheck
I swear, if I win the Mega Millions or equivalent, I'm going to build the game show equivalent of Revision3, and hire a bunch of really talented and competent people to put out some good content.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'241075\' date=\'May 18 2010, 09:38 PM\'][quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'241074\' date=\'May 18 2010, 07:33 PM\']Considering that Mandel is not only a huge game show fan (along with Boden), but also created Half Off, I suddenly feel a boost of confidence in Boden's new endeavor.[/quote] He's as big a fan as they come, but I would file Half-Off under 'minimally exceptional,' and I think I'm being very charitable in that.
[/quote]
Not that it'll sway your opinion or anything, but I remember reading somewhere that the original blueprint for this game had the contestant playing for a car , where one of the 16 boxes had the keys inside.
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[quote name=\'rollercoaster87\' post=\'241130\' date=\'May 19 2010, 09:42 PM\']Not that it'll sway your opinion or anything, but I remember reading somewhere that the original blueprint for this game had the contestant playing for a car , where one of the 16 boxes had the keys inside.[/quote]So, erm, yay? :)
My problems are that the play-in bit ranges from easy to laughable, that the opening of a box was neat on Treasure Hunt and I'm not really fond of it as a reveal here, and, well, they give someone who gets pricing decisions right but loses out on the $10k some consolation money, so they fixed that...
Again, bully for Mandel for developing a game and working with it through the production process, and finally being able to see it on TV and all. I'm just not fond of it. And Half Off is in plenty of company. There are probably a dozen or two games that I would cut and I don't think the show would suffer overmuch for it.
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[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'240986\' date=\'May 17 2010, 04:20 PM\'][quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'240979\' date=\'May 17 2010, 11:45 AM\']I'm looking forward to the Connect Four segment, presumably with checkers 3' in diameter and a 3-story-tall game board! Maybe in a 21st Century twist, opposing players will be on a narrow greased catwalk atop the board, each with a giant cushion to protect a column.[/quote]
Will celebs be involved in this? :) (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTKuSNM0BAM\")
[/quote]
heh I'm sure the intro would look more like this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDXw9SggErk...feature=related (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDXw9SggErk&feature=related\")
Buuuhhht. I prefer this theme.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oyfvj5rkteE...feature=related (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oyfvj5rkteE&feature=related\")
or this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2Q3C3apLpk (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2Q3C3apLpk\")
we can only wait!!
Edit Edit: there fixed it
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In Italy in the 90s we had a few gameshows for kids based on some Milton Bradley and Mattel boardgames.
They were giant-sized reproductions of the boardgames, with some rules changed.
A few I can remember are Hotel, Connect Four, Guess Who, Twister, Ready! Set! Spaghetti!, Splat!, Pirates' Gold (two versions) and at some point somehow they even did Barcode Battler °_°
unfortunately I cannot find any picture of them :(
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In Italy in the 90s we had a few gameshows for kids based on some Milton Bradley and Mattel boardgames. They were giant-sized reproductions of the boardgames, with some rules changed.
A few I can remember are [...] Connect Four,
A ready-made format for the American version, then.
Guess Who
I can kinda see how that could work.
and at some point somehow they even did Barcode Battler. °_°
Didn't that, like, fail six months after release? And tremendously suck?
Twister
There's no way I can figure this without going into the gutter, and even then the "game" is watching six pretty, flexible ladies touching each other for lengthy periods of time. Much like Playboy's game show efforts, really, all of which could've been called Small Game, Big Boobies.
/what?
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[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'241151\' date=\'May 20 2010, 11:25 AM\']/And adding "&feature=related" is not necessary, since it doesn't change the video or the output. This is a common mistake, but sometimes the full address view is obscured by the "related" tag.[/quote]And I don't think it hurts anything either, does it, Daniel?
For someone who has made a fair amount of bloopers in 222 posts, you're awful quick to jump on others too.
With some of those who were caught in the crossfire of that production drama, it still lingers to this day.
Wait, what? For a show that was finished ten years ago, there are still lingering anything? I don't buy it.
Nor do I. The show was gone in what, seven months? How could there possibly have been that much drama in such little time?
As far as 1/2 off goes; I like the pricing element of it and that's it. Don't like the fact that some assclown who gets 0 prizes right can still win more than the guy who nails all three.
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With some of those who were caught in the crossfire of that production drama, it still lingers to this day.
Wait, what? For a show that was finished ten years ago, there are still lingering anything? I don't buy it.
Nor do I. The show was gone in what, seven months? How could there possibly have been that much drama in such little time?
Seven months? You guys are giving Bullard's Card Sharks way too much -- it got canned after 17 weeks, although the last four were repeats.
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[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'241151\' date=\'May 20 2010, 09:25 AM\']Didn't that, like, fail six months after release? And tremendously suck?[/quote]
It was INSANELY popular in Japan (in fact, there was a shortage of a certain brand of ramen for a while when it was discovered that the barcode on it was incredibly powerful), and guilty of bad marketing in the US...it was marketed as an alternative to a Game Boy or a Game Gear, and 1) it wasn't even close, both in price and in functionality, and 2) going up against those in the 1991 handheld game climate was business suicide.
Whether it "sucked" or not is subjective. I always wanted one, personally, because the idea of pitting a box of Tide up against a can of Chunky Soup amused the hell out of me (you'd think it would be a natural for TPiR fans, too), but they were hard to find in my area. Barcode Beasties (http://\"http://www.barcodebeasties.com/\") is a similar game for Android, but I'd love to see someone do a straight port of the original Barcode Battler in the same vein as LED Football for the iTouch /iPhone.
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[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'241151\' date=\'May 20 2010, 12:25 PM\']
and at some point somehow they even did Barcode Battler. °_°
Didn't that, like, fail six months after release? And tremendously suck?
[/quote]
My niece came to work one day and was absolutely fascinated by my barcode scanner (I used to program software for barcode systems, so I had it for testing). That became the easiest Christmas present I ever bought. She ran around the house scanning everything.
--Mike
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Okay, that's adorable -- imagining a little girl running around pointing a barcode scanner at stuff and mimicking the "beep" sound is just too cute. Thanks for brightening up my day, Mike. :)
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[quote name=\'CeleTheRef\' post=\'241141\' date=\'May 20 2010, 07:26 AM\']In Italy in the 90s we had a few gameshows for kids based on some Milton Bradley and Mattel boardgames.
They were giant-sized reproductions of the boardgames, with some rules changed.
A few I can remember are Hotel, Connect Four, Guess Who, Twister, Ready! Set! Spaghetti!, Splat!, Pirates' Gold (two versions) and at some point somehow they even did Barcode Battler °_°[/quote]
Who knew Italy had such a rich game show history?
That's actually pretty cool.
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The last board game connection I remember concerning Jumble was with Cadaco. Not like Hasbro couldn't also latch onto rights for a new project.
I've had a BOGGLE tv game format sitting around for some time. Was ready to send it to Dan Enright before he passed. Mr. Boden - any interest, let me know.
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[quote name=\'The Ol' Guy\' post=\'241189\' date=\'May 21 2010, 03:33 AM\']The last board game connection I remember concerning Jumble was with Cadaco. Not like Hasbro couldn't also latch onto rights for a new project.
I've had a BOGGLE tv game format sitting around for some time. Was ready to send it to Dan Enright before he passed. Mr. Boden - any interest, let me know.[/quote]
Could be interesting to see it come back. Aside from our interactive version...I know Boggle was a popular format in The Netherlands from '89 to '96.
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[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'241153\' date=\'May 20 2010, 11:43 AM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'241152\' date=\'May 20 2010, 12:33 PM\']
With some of those who were caught in the crossfire of that production drama, it still lingers to this day.
Wait, what? For a show that was finished ten years ago, there are still lingering anything? I don't buy it.
Nor do I. The show was gone in what, seven months? How could there possibly have been that much drama in such little time?[/quote]
Seven months? You guys are giving Bullard's Card Sharks way too much -- it got canned in seventeen weeks (although the last four weeks were repeats).
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It was beyond the actual seventeen weeks, as to why it was bad behind the scenes.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'241014\' date=\'May 17 2010, 10:59 PM\']Game of Life
To me, this has the same problem as Monopoly, too complex to play in 22 minutes.[/quote] The problem for me is that Game of Life really isn't all that complex at all. Spin the wheel, move your Chevy Astrovan that many spaces, do what it says, and wake up the players.
I think the only choices are whether to buy stock when you get the chance, or whether to go to college/business school.
Clue
With some creative liberties, it could make for a nice murder mystery...but with the same characters, it could get repetitive.
Solve a Fame Game puzzle for the right to make a supposition or whatever allows you to peek at the hand of your opponents.
Pay Day
Haven't played in years, but with some modifications, it could have potential. However, it could also fall into the Life/Monopoly trap.
The problem I had with Pay Day is that it seems that there was never enough money. And the choices were limited to whether to going for the Deals that would pop up occasionally (Craigslist tie-in?) or whether to pay the insurance premium that would allow you to chuck the bills of a particular kind. Around our neighborhood, it became known as The Game of Life Isn't Fair.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'241244\' date=\'May 22 2010, 02:00 PM\'][quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'241014\' date=\'May 17 2010, 10:59 PM\']Game of Life
To me, this has the same problem as Monopoly, too complex to play in 22 minutes.[/quote] The problem for me is that Game of Life really isn't all that complex at all. Spin the wheel, move your Chevy Astrovan that many spaces, do what it says, and wake up the players.
I think the only choices are whether to buy stock when you get the chance, or whether to go to college/business school.
[/quote]May I suggest an alternative (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gospers_glider_gun.gif\"), then?
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'241244\' date=\'May 22 2010, 12:00 PM\']The problem I had with Pay Day is that it seems that there was never enough money.[/quote]
Isn't it always, my friend. Isn't it always.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'241268\' date=\'May 22 2010, 11:08 PM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'241244\' date=\'May 22 2010, 12:00 PM\']The problem I had with Pay Day is that it seems that there was never enough money.[/quote]
Isn't it always, my friend. Isn't it always.[/quote]Y'know, that's funny. I useta enjoy playing Pay Day, because it had to do with finances, and it was a game and so that was OK by me.
Little did I know that years later, I would be living it. I hate getting mail these days, because it is NEVER good. It is always someone who wants money. So Pay Day can go pound sand. :)
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[quote name=\''TLEberle'\']
Haven't played in years, but with some modifications, it could have potential. However, it could also fall into the Life/Monopoly trap.
The problem I had with Pay Day is that it seems that there was never enough money. And the choices were limited to whether to going for the Deals that would pop up occasionally (Craigslist tie-in?) or whether to pay the insurance premium that would allow you to chuck the bills of a particular kind. Around our neighborhood, it became known as The Game of Life Isn't Fair.
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I just skimmed over the rules on Wiki, and I think if the game were given a slight Press Your Luck treatment* (in selecting the day), it could work very well. Just have the players play to a goal (let's say $10,000), and make the game board a little more generic and not as specific. Maybe make two Fridays out the month the "Pay Day" for a set jackpot BUT you have to answer a question or two to win the jackpot. Even though it would be a generic month, the 13th could be the "unlucky" day where you forfeit your turn, O.S.I. Mondays could be the day where you have to forfeit money. Yes, I know it's derivative of Wheel, work with me here...maybe even have one of the restaurant chains sponsor "Ruby Tuesdays" or "TGI Fridays"...a show like this could go more in the Scrabble route with creativity, and less in the Monopoly route.
This is all off the top of my head, as it is late in my part of town. ;-)
*It would also be very similar to a Commodore 64 game I had as a child called "T.G.I.F.", which I'm guessing was similar to Pay Day, in which each player randomly selected a day of the week a la Press Your Luck, and each day of the week had a specific setting, i.e. Tuesday was a penalty, Wednesday was a bonus, Friday was the designated payday. However, I seem to remember on one day of the week, you could purchase a special prize with your money, a la old-school Wheel.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'241272\' date=\'May 22 2010, 11:36 PM\']
O.S.I. Mondays could be the day where you have to forfeit money.[/quote] I like what you did there.
...a show like this could go more in the Scrabble route with creativity, and less in the Monopoly route.
Oh, I think you absolutely have to do something like that. Since it is ten minutes into SNL here, I haven't given a whole lot of thought to it, I do think you have to say "OK, we're going to make a derivative product, how can we keep the spirit of the original there without being handcuffed to it?"
(Just because I'm here and I thought of it, I would have Task Days and Mail Days. Task Days allow you to "do" something to build up money, and "Mail Days" suck it away and whoever is closest to solvency at the end of the show wins the game.)
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'241270\' date=\'May 23 2010, 08:20 AM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'241268\' date=\'May 22 2010, 11:08 PM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'241244\' date=\'May 22 2010, 12:00 PM\']The problem I had with Pay Day is that it seems that there was never enough money.[/quote]
Isn't it always, my friend. Isn't it always.[/quote]Y'know, that's funny. I useta enjoy playing Pay Day, because it had to do with finances, and it was a game and so that was OK by me.
Little did I know that years later, I would be living it. I hate getting mail these days, because it is NEVER good. It is always someone who wants money. So Pay Day can go pound sand. :)
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In Italy we have had a PayDay-like gameshow in 1992 titled "Porca Miseria!" (an expression like "dammit!") and it lasted for two seasons.
Season 1 ran in the late night slot and every week there was one family playing the game. The family started with 2,447,000 lire (the average income of a family at the time) and used a spinner to determine how many spaces they moved (1 to 4) on a 30 spaces board. The Rischiatutto (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI2P4jA780c\") theme was played at every spin ^_^
Some spaces had bills to pay, others offered a chance to earn or save money.
Some of such opportunities required answering a question or completing a task (like "your daughter needs some extra math lessons. you can homeschool her if you tell me which of the following numbers is a prime number. otherwise, it's 150,000 lire for a private teacher")
Others involved a game of chance and usually questioned the morality of the family ("your dog is getting old and needs vet attention. the vet's fee is 200,000 lire. but you know what, I've got some poisoned dog food right here for just 10 thousand...")
After the choice was made, an assistant illustrated the probability of being caught doing something illegal and any applicable penalties, taking inspiration from real-life statistics.
Finally, he spun a carnival wheel with adjustable sections, to see if they did the right thing.
After the board was completed, if the family had still money left, they won that money and tried to answer a final question for a 15 million bonus. If they went broke, they still played the bonus but for just 3 million.
Season 2 aired in primetime and had a bigger budget. There were two competing families, and they went through all of the 30 spaces one at a time.
After every 5 spaces there was a special question. The family who answered it correctly added 30 million to their "bonus bank".
After board completion, each family was asked a batch of final questions. For each second spent in coming up with the answers, the family lost 1/60 of their bonus bank. When all the correct answers were given, the bonus bank was added to their regular score, and that was their final score. The family with the highest total score won the money.
To make things more complicated, one member of the audience was randomly drawn at the beginning of the show and awarded with 1 million. During the game, the family with the least money can ask that audience member to give them the million in excange of a share of their final winnings. If they really win, that's it ^_^
here's the show's cast with the "starting check"
http://data.kataweb.it/kpm2x/field/image/kpmimage/2321726 (http://\"http://data.kataweb.it/kpm2x/field/image/kpmimage/2321726\")
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Looks like The Hub just picked up Pictureka!
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2010/06.../20100603hub01/ (http://\"http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2010/06/03/the-hub-announces-additional-program-pick-ups-prepping-two-new-original-series-in-advance-of-networks-october-launch/20100603hub01/\")
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The Hub has updated their website with some photos of both FGN and Pictureka, and we have some timeslots...
Family Game Night (http://\"http://www.hubworld.com/family-game-night/shows/family-game-night/images/family-game-night-gallery-1\") (The Guesstures one looks good actually- they certainly aren't scrimping on set pieces...)
Pictureka (http://\"http://www.hubworld.com/pictureka/shows/pictureka/images/pictureka-gallery-1\") (appears to be Weekdays at 4pm Eastern)
Also some Video of Pictureka.. (http://\"http://www.hubworld.com/pictureka/shows/pictureka/videos/pictureka-hubworld-sneak-peek\")
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[quote name=\'weaklink75\' post=\'248372\' date=\'Sep 27 2010, 04:41 PM\']The Hub has updated their website with some photos of both FGN and Pictureka, and we have some timeslots...
Family Game Night (http://\"http://www.hubworld.com/family-game-night/shows/family-game-night/images/family-game-night-gallery-1\") (The Guesstures one looks good actually- they certainly aren't scrimping on set pieces...)
Pictureka (http://\"http://www.hubworld.com/pictureka/shows/pictureka/images/pictureka-gallery-1\") (appears to be Weekdays at 4pm Eastern)
Also some Video of Pictureka.. (http://\"http://www.hubworld.com/pictureka/shows/pictureka/videos/pictureka-hubworld-sneak-peek\")[/quote]
Also, Zap2It is showing that TLC will show a preview episode of Family Game Night on Saturday Oct 9 at 10am EDT.
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[quote name=\'weaklink75\' post=\'248372\' date=\'Sep 27 2010, 03:41 PM\']The Hub has updated their website with some photos of both FGN and Pictureka, and we have some timeslots...
Family Game Night (http://\"http://www.hubworld.com/family-game-night/shows/family-game-night/images/family-game-night-gallery-1\") (The Guesstures one looks good actually- they certainly aren't scrimping on set pieces...)
Pictureka (http://\"http://www.hubworld.com/pictureka/shows/pictureka/images/pictureka-gallery-1\") (appears to be Weekdays at 4pm Eastern)
Also some Video of Pictureka.. (http://\"http://www.hubworld.com/pictureka/shows/pictureka/videos/pictureka-hubworld-sneak-peek\")[/quote]
I like what they're doing with Guesstures, holding the players in the deep spots instead of cards, ala Russian Roulette. Actually, that's really good.
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I am extremely impressed by the pictures and will be looking forward to these games.
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A local ad for FGN ran here tonight. Definitely not doing this on the cheap.
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Pictureeka: Do we need an INYOURFACE-UPCLOSETOTHECAMERA! Singing with Guitar of the theme? I sure hope it's just a promo.
Other that that, it looks good.
/That's what I said about other things.....
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[quote name=\'William_S.\' post=\'248394\' date=\'Sep 28 2010, 02:23 AM\']Pictureeka: Do we need an INYOURFACE-UPCLOSETOTHECAMERA! Singing with Guitar of the theme? I sure hope it's just a promo.
Other that that, it looks good.[/quote]
I hope the closeups aren't a regular thing, but I think that is the actual theme, with the guitar player being a constant presence on the set. Not a big fan of that, but the game looks really fun. Who knows? Maybe Hub will convince Nickelodeon to put more eggs in their game show basket.
By the way, who is the host? I don't recognize him.
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My Comcast box is showing some data for The Hub into 10/10:
Family Game Night is airing at least on 10/10 at 7PM, repeating at midnight. Hour long. There are additional 1 hour slots open 7-8PM during the week, so I donno. TLC indeed is airing a preview 10/9 at 10AM.
Fraggle Rock at 8:30AM, 1:30PM, 2:00PM.
Pictureka! seems to be a daily at 4:00PM. Half hour.
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I think FGN is supposed to be a weekly show- Sundays at 7PM is probably when they eps debut, but it'll probably be rerun thru the week...
Edit: Yeah- titantv.com had "Honey I Shrunk The Kids: The Series" from 7-8pm weedays...
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Where I live, Pictureka! airs at 2PM, against LMAD and a Feud double run. Anyone live in an area where Pictureka! competes?
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Looking at the FGN pictures and website, here's what they've adapted so far:
-Yahtzee
-Connect 4
-Operation
-Bop it
-Twister
-Boggle
-Guesstures
-Monopoly (look at the background of the Guesstures pic- they have a "Crazy Cash Corner", which has to do with a Monopoly Junior version in the UK that has an ATM spewing out money- I guess they'll release that version here eventually)
(as an aside, they have a game on the hubworld.com site that beings up an old GS reference- I'll let you find that one)
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[quote name=\'weaklink75\' post=\'248465\' date=\'Sep 29 2010, 05:16 PM\']Looking at the FGN pictures and website, here's what they've adapted so far:[/quote]
Please be aware that the word "adapted" will be an understatement in most cases. Anybody expecting to see a bunch of board game classics recreated faithfully will be more than a little disappointed, as well as being more than a little naive. The famous brand names that Hasbro owns will be starting points for what, we can only hope, will be clever, fun and original TV games regardless of how much (or how little) they resemble their namesakes.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'248466\' date=\'Sep 29 2010, 05:26 PM\']The famous brand names that Hasbro owns will be starting points for what, we can only hope, will be clever, fun and original TV games regardless of how much (or how little) they resemble their namesakes.[/quote]
I got a chance to visit the set during three of the games -- from what I've seen, even the ones that have had their home game rules altered to varying degrees made for fun television. I was surprised at how compelling a game of Connect Four could be.
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[quote name=\'MSTieScott\' post=\'248476\' date=\'Sep 29 2010, 09:03 PM\']I was surprised at how compelling a game of Connect Four could be.[/quote]
Can't wait for the celeb version. (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTKuSNM0BAM\")
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Preview episodes of shows on The Hub are available on Comcast On Demand (including the games). Watching Family Game Night and I'm extremely impressed. Burton Richardson is your announcer. Five games are played plus a Guess Who fame game/toss up hybrid opening game. The Monopoly ATM thing is for cash awards for winning the games.
A broadcast network should pick this up for a summer run as well.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'248486\' date=\'Sep 30 2010, 10:55 AM\']Preview episodes of shows on The Hub are available on Comcast On Demand (including the games). Watching Family Game Night and I'm extremely impressed. Burton Richardson is your announcer. Five games are played plus a Guess Who fame game/toss up hybrid opening game. The Monopoly ATM thing is for cash awards for winning the games.
A broadcast network should pick this up for a summer run as well.[/quote]
Is there any kind of bonus round at the end?
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[quote name=\'golden-road\' post=\'248491\' date=\'Sep 30 2010, 02:25 PM\']Is there any kind of bonus round at the end?[/quote]
No. Just totaling up cash and awarding a bonus to the team with the highest cash total.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'248492\' date=\'Sep 30 2010, 02:39 PM\'][quote name=\'golden-road\' post=\'248491\' date=\'Sep 30 2010, 02:25 PM\']Is there any kind of bonus round at the end?[/quote]
No. Just totaling up cash and awarding a bonus to the team with the highest cash total.
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It sounds like "Family Challenge" with Hasbro corporate brand synergy, but all-in-all fun. It's great to see Todd Newton back in action, too.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'248492\' date=\'Sep 30 2010, 02:39 PM\'][quote name=\'golden-road\' post=\'248491\' date=\'Sep 30 2010, 02:25 PM\']Is there any kind of bonus round at the end?[/quote]
No. Just totaling up cash and awarding a bonus to the team with the highest cash total.
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I'm guessing all families keep their money regardless?
Sounds like a fun little effort, and based on your description, it would make for some awesome Saturday morning programming.
/Although it would kinda negate the title Family Game Night ;-)
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'248498\' date=\'Sep 30 2010, 04:29 PM\']I'm guessing all families keep their money regardless?
/Although it would kinda negate the title Family Game Night ;-)[/quote]
I'm pretty sure that's how it works (since there's the bonus). It wasn't entirely clear. Probably going to re-watch it later and post some sort of detailed recap.
I'm thinking this would work excellent as a pairing with Wipeout in the summer (if Wipeout could make it at 9).
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'248498\' date=\'Sep 30 2010, 03:29 PM\']I'm guessing all families keep their money regardless?[/quote]
Yes. He mentioned that several times.
It's not bad. Todd tried gamely to bring some personality out of the contestants but they didn't give him much time. The Cranium game was a boring time suck, and the format of the Scrabble variation made it slow and dull. Seems like they could use a good end game, but maybe they want to avoid ending on a sour note.
Cute show, though, especially once they figure out which games are better than others and if they give Todd a little space with the families.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'248499\' date=\'Sep 30 2010, 04:36 PM\'][quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'248498\' date=\'Sep 30 2010, 04:29 PM\']I'm guessing all families keep their money regardless?[/quote]
I'm pretty sure that's how it works (since there's the bonus). It wasn't entirely clear.[/quote]
I gathered that only the winning team kept the money. (Beat by Neumms.)
I agree with Brandon. This would be a great Saturday morning show. I say air it on Saturday mornings in spite of the name. It's always night somewhere in the world! ;-)
I was thoroughly impressed with FGN. Todd Newton works so well with kids and families, and he's not in super-hyper Whammy! mode. The games are creative and fun. It's an enjoyable way to spend an hour.
I'm watching Pictureka! as I type this. The Maze Craze round is reminiscent of The MoneyMaze, even though it's not a true maze.
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[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'248502\' date=\'Sep 30 2010, 03:54 PM\']I'm watching Pictureka! as I type this. The Maze Craze round is reminiscent of The MoneyMaze, even though it's not a true maze.[/quote]
The guitar guy in the video on the website; is he the actual host, or just the "house band"?
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'248501\' date=\'Sep 30 2010, 04:52 PM\']It's not bad. Todd tried gamely to bring some personality out of the contestants but they didn't give him much time. The Cranium game was a boring time suck, and the format of the Scrabble variation made it slow and dull. Seems like they could use a good end game, but maybe they want to avoid ending on a sour note.[/quote]
Cranium needs to be made into a carbon copy of Supermarket Sweep's round robin game. Speed it up a lot.
I found Scrabble to be one of the stronger parts - it moved along quickly enough and was a very interesting variant.
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[quote name=\'golden-road\' post=\'248506\' date=\'Sep 30 2010, 05:37 PM\']The guitar guy in the video on the website; is he the actual host, or just the "house band"?[/quote]
One-man house band.
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FGN isn't too bad- the mix of games will keep it fresh each week, and there are some good twists to them (I loved the Guesstures one). The final part is very Break The Bank '85-ish with the cash cards...and yes, a family could win the bonus trip even if they lose all of the rounds with a lucky choice at the beginning with their free card pick, but it's only a 1 in 21 shot (and the other family would have won 5 prizes plus the cash they got from their cards, so it still would be a good amount for them in total)..BTW, Buzzerblog tweeted that FGN has 26 eps to start, and Pictureka has 65 eps to start.
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I watched FGN on TLC today and it's a good show. I just wish the announcer would be more involved and Todd wouldn't have to do the prize plugs and the contestant plugs himself. I am old-fashioned when it comes to those things. But all in all it's a good thing the announcers hardly being involved is my one beef with game shows these days.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'248486\' date=\'Sep 30 2010, 10:55 AM\']Preview episodes of shows on The Hub are available on Comcast On Demand (including the games).[/quote]
Verizon, too. I was pleasantly surprised to see that the TLC episode of FGN was different (and imo a better episode).
FGN was good, even though there was plenty of stuff I found iffy (eg the crowd shots, low cash card amounts vis-a-vis very large top dollar) and Guesstures looked slow as all get out. It's really interesting to how badly a game of charades needs a floor.
Pictureka is a little too frenetic for my tastes, but damn if that's not one of the best sets I've ever seen.
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I like The Scrabble Cubes and Operation segments myself. The show seems to move at a good pace and Todd Newton did a good job as host (not too over the top). They advertised a new episode of FGN this Friday. I'm figuring they'll do different games on each show, a la TPIR.
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[quote name=\'Jamey Greek\' post=\'248941\' date=\'Oct 9 2010, 08:15 PM\']I just wish the announcer would be more involved and Todd wouldn't have to do the prize plugs and the contestant plugs himself.[/quote]
I was surprised about that, too, since there *is* an announcer. But that's a pretty slim quibble. This is a really charming idea for a show, and quite well executed. I thought playing five games in an hour would require padding, but the pacing was solid, and the games themselves provided a nice mix of playalong and "you have to just watch" varieties.
Nice work, Hubsters!
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I posted my mainly positive review (http://\"http://gameshows.about.com/b/2010/10/11/family-game-night-pictureka.htm\") this morning. I really liked them both and look forward to more episodes.
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'248945\' date=\'Oct 9 2010, 09:03 PM\']FGN was good, even though there was plenty of stuff I found iffy (eg the crowd shots, low cash card amounts vis-a-vis very large top dollar) and Guesstures looked slow as all get out. It's really interesting to how badly a game of charades needs a floor.[/quote]
It struck me as crazy that the "get lowered behind the wall" gimmick had nothing whatsoever to do with game play. Seems to me if you pass a family member, he or she should be out for the round (which means you can only pass twice, which seems reasonable). Or start them down below, so when you pass, there's a time penalty with the next one rising up.
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'249017\' date=\'Oct 11 2010, 01:38 PM\']It struck me as crazy that the "get lowered behind the wall" gimmick had nothing whatsoever to do with game play.[/quote]
But it has everything to do with the game. (For those unfamiliar with the board game, the clues are set on a prop clapboard and a timer drops the clues at regular intervals)
I agree that the implementation of the gimmick could've been better (maybe give each family member has 45 seconds to convey as many clues as possible before they drop), but I still think the major hindrances to the game are the lack of perceived urgency, and the harness system.
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[quote name=\'golden-road\' post=\'248443\' date=\'Sep 28 2010, 07:38 PM\']Where I live, Pictureka! airs at 2PM, against LMAD and a Feud double run. Anyone live in an area where Pictureka! competes?[/quote]
I know that Pictureka! competes against Feud in the Montgomery, AL TV market on WNCF 32 at 3:00 Central Time.
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A quick note: Two episodes of FGN and and one episode of Pictureka are available to watch at hubworld.com, the network's website.
I was afraid it would get stale quickly, but I like Pictureka- very Finders Keepers like, and the bonus round was like a cross between Keepers and the Mega Memory round from Get The Picture. Do the stunts change every episode? I saw a ball pit stunt in the promo, and I'm guessing that there may be a couple others. I'm not too keen on the improv guitarist though; it seems a little out of place.
Family Game Night was definitely worth waiting for. I like everything about the show with the exception of the Cash Card amounts. I wish there was a little less parity between the top dollar and the lower amounts, because although in one episode we do see a $5000 Cash Card , it seems that one team can dominate the whole show, yet still lose because the other family got lucky with their one pick at the start of the game.
All in all, a great job by both crews- if I had Hub, I'd probably have FGN recorded on my DVR every week, and I'd probably catch Pictureka a couple times each week. Hopefully they do well enough to convince Nick dust off Double Dare and give it another try.
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[quote name=\'Jeremy Nelson\' post=\'250028\' date=\'Nov 1 2010, 06:42 PM\']I was afraid it would get stale quickly, but I like Pictureka- very Finders Keepers like, and the bonus round was like a cross between Keepers and the Mega Memory round from Get The Picture. Do the stunts change every episode? I saw a ball pit stunt in the promo, and I'm guessing that there may be a couple others. I'm not too keen on the improv guitarist though; it seems a little out of place.[/quote]
The games don't rotate each episode. It appears there are two or three different games for each the third and fourth (final two) rounds. The guitarist annoys me a smidge, but (presumably) live music is a nice touch.
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I'm glad I'm not the only who gets vibes of Double Dare and Finders Keepers when watching these two shows. I entered both shows with moderately low expectations and am very pleasantly surprised by the presentations.
I won't go into details because I'm likely to repeat what has been said in this thread, but anyone who has the time to kick back and enjoy some family friendly television should watch these shows. It feels old school, yet very fresh at the same time.
And to think, I watched Hub primarily for the last hour of the "Huboom!" block - classic Transformers and G.I. Joe - HISTK the TV Show, The Wonder Years, and other classics, but the new material is just as engaging to me. Kudos to the Hub. Well done.
The Inquisitive One
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[quote name=\'TheInquisitiveOne\' post=\'250221\' date=\'Nov 3 2010, 10:15 PM\']HISTK[/quote]
Not familiar with this acronym.
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HISTK = Honey I Shrunk The Kids
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[quote name=\'jmenjes\' post=\'250223\' date=\'Nov 3 2010, 10:31 PM\']HISTK = Honey I Shrunk The Kids[/quote]
Thanks. I should have been more clear.
That show has one of the most overlooked TV moms in terms of hotness. No kidding. :)
The Inquisitive One
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Just curious - are these episodes only available in the US? ISTR that I was able to watch the sneak preview of Pictureka before. Only wondering if I'm doing something wrong.
Thanks,
Ryan.
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I just discovered the Hub. But it looks neat. Mainly because it is the only network that airs the classic 60's Batman series right now...ah memories. Now all they need is to get The Real Ghostbusters and Jem & the Holograms and we're in bidness.
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[quote name=\'TheInquisitiveOne\' post=\'250227\' date=\'Nov 3 2010, 10:21 PM\'][quote name=\'jmenjes\' post=\'250223\' date=\'Nov 3 2010, 10:31 PM\']HISTK = Honey I Shrunk The Kids[/quote]
Thanks. I should have been more clear.
That show has one of the most overlooked TV moms in terms of hotness. No kidding. :)
The Inquisitive One
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Considering that Barbara Alyn Woods also starred in some pay-cable softcore porn shows in the 80s (of which the titles I've forgotten)...
She worked in Chicago in the 80s before moving out to LA and did some plays (including the Marilyn Monroe role in "The Seven Year Itch"). Yes, she looked just as hot in person as on TV.
ObGameShow: What I've seen of "FGN," I've liked. "PicturEka," not as much, but I can understand the appeal.
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Speaking of "Honey, I Shrunk the Kids," I came across a somewhat tenuous game show connection, concerning a lawsuit over one of the movies (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honey,_I_Blew_Up_the_Kid#Lawsuit\"):
Disney would later find itself the subject of a lawsuit as a result of the film, brought on by a game show announcer who had also done screenplays and came up with the idea of an oversized toddler after babysitting his granddaughter and watching her topple over building blocks. His screenplay had been reviewed but never made into a movie, and it was titled "Now, That's a Baby!". Disney eventually settled out of court.
The citation is "Disney, the Mouse Betrayed" by Peter and Rochelle Schweitzer. Every discussion on the book I've seen so far has been chock-full of fundamentalist catchphrases like "gay agenda" and "satanic music," so I'm taking it with about a pound-and-a-half of salt, but would anyone have more info on this one?
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Not announcer -- producer -- Paul Alter. At least according to Variety in 1993. He won $300K from Disney.
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Here's the original article on Alter's courtroom victory, from the LA Times:
Jury Tells Disney to Pay $300K in 'Honey' Case Movies (http://\"http://articles.latimes.com/1993-11-13/entertainment/ca-56385_1_disney-film\")
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")