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Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: TimK2003 on January 08, 2010, 08:54:27 PM
(Not that I would want to/care to see it happen, as the only thing I watch on NBC is/will be Conan's Show...)

...Will NBC tap DoND again to fill at least one of the hours temporarily?  

The set is still ready to use in Connecticut, the only thing they would need to do is to find about 2-dozen models.


But then again, this is NBC we're talking about -- the network that is rewarding Jay Leno for poor ratings by (per some early sources) giving him his old show back and the same network that also rewards the Today Show for less-than-stellar ratings by giving them more & more hours each day.
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: TLEberle on January 08, 2010, 08:55:52 PM
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'233908\' date=\'Jan 8 2010, 05:54 PM\']But then again, this is NBC we're talking about -- the network that is rewarding Jay Leno for poor ratings by giving him his old show back.[/quote]Because Tonight actually got decent ratings with Leno as host. The 10p show is a disaster, Tonight wasn't.
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: bandit_bobby on January 08, 2010, 09:08:07 PM
I think a new crime drama would work better instead of "Deal". Primetime network game shows just don't feel right regularly airing in a 10 PM EST timeslot.
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: BrandonFG on January 08, 2010, 09:14:23 PM
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'233908\' date=\'Jan 8 2010, 08:54 PM\'][T]he same network that also rewards the Today Show for less-than-stellar ratings by giving them more & more hours each day.[/quote]
Not quite; Today Show is the highest-rated morning show of the three. NBC might have low ratings in a lot of timeslots, but their mornings are fairly solid.
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: Joe Mello on January 08, 2010, 09:43:00 PM
Just to get me (and possibly others) up to speed, is there more to this than just Leno getting canned at 10?
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: chad1m on January 08, 2010, 09:44:42 PM
[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'233913\' date=\'Jan 8 2010, 09:43 PM\']Just to get me (and possibly others) up to speed, is there more to this than just Leno getting canned at 10?[/quote]Either way, it looks like Leno is back post-late news. Two biggest scenarios:

Leno at 11:35, O'Brien at 12:05, Fallon at 1:05
-or-
O'Brien leaves NBC, Leno at 11:35, Fallon at 12:35.

Source: TV By the Numbers (http://\"http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/01/08/tmz-nbc-to-conan-move-to-midnight-or-take-a-walk/38133\")
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: Hastin on January 08, 2010, 09:46:05 PM
These are the Rumors:

Basically, Leno WILL be moving back to 11:30. NBC has said that Conan could have the Midnight to 1AM block. He hasn't responded yet.

Ratings are sinking to no end, and somethings gonna happen fast. Scoop from TMZ: http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/08/conan-obrien...c-tonight-show/ (http://\"http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/08/conan-obrien-jay-leno-nbc-tonight-show/\")
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: Lirodon on January 08, 2010, 10:03:49 PM
Hey maybe they should move the NBC Nightly News up there...

well if I were them that's what I would have done. If primetime news works for Canada, it could work for you.
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: TimK2003 on January 08, 2010, 11:31:14 PM
[quote name=\'bandit_bobby\' post=\'233910\' date=\'Jan 8 2010, 07:08 PM\']I think a new crime drama would work better instead of "Deal". Primetime network game shows just don't feel right regularly airing in a 10 PM EST timeslot.[/quote]

Some of the other existing NBC primetime will probably shift from their current timeslots into those 10PM slots, but even though the Peacock has until the other side of the Olympics before the 10PM hour officially opens up, there will still be timeslots to fill as it's gonna take a lot to fill 33% of their weeknight schedule with somewhat decent programming.  

NBC/Universal/Comcast/Joe's Donut's & Laundromat/Etc... is in a dilemma right now.  Leno for only 30 minutes after the local news will be a disaster, and Conan's forced or voluntary departure from NBC Late Night will be a black eye for the Peacock however it shakes out, especially if Leno can't bring back the ratings he once had on The Tonight Show.  

With all of the bad raps Letterman has been getting from his misadventures in 2009, I would think the dark horse in all this would be that CBS would start thinking of "retirement" for Dave, naming Craig Ferguson as Dave's replacement @ 11:35, with the Conan taking the 12:35 slot.  Especially if NBC insists on a Leno/Fallon/Daly lineup, leaving Conan on the curb.

ObGS:  Jay Leno was a semi-regular on the Match Game/Hollywood Squares Hour.
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: J.R. on January 09, 2010, 12:33:59 AM
"The Conan Show coming up next on FOX..."
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: DjohnsonCB on January 09, 2010, 01:14:53 AM
Since Conan had to uproot his family to move to L.A., he deserves to get something for his trouble--maybe a once-a-week free form hour in prime time.  Jack Paar had one on Fridays in the early-to-mid '60s that did pretty well.  As for games, I could suggest a couple, but they'd never go for them.
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: Mr. Brown on January 09, 2010, 01:31:35 AM
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'233921\' date=\'Jan 8 2010, 10:31 PM\'][quote name=\'bandit_bobby\' post=\'233910\' date=\'Jan 8 2010, 07:08 PM\']I think a new crime drama would work better instead of "Deal". Primetime network game shows just don't feel right regularly airing in a 10 PM EST timeslot.[/quote]
With all of the bad raps Letterman has been getting from his misadventures in 2009, I would think the dark horse in all this would be that CBS would start thinking of "retirement" for Dave, naming Craig Ferguson as Dave's replacement @ 11:35, with the Conan taking the 12:35 slot.  Especially if NBC insists on a Leno/Fallon/Daly lineup, leaving Conan on the curb.
[/quote]

I'm going to have to repeat something Craig Ferguson brought up on last night's show - "Where is Carson Daly in all this?" Seriously, his show hasn't been mentioned at all in these discussions of NBC's scheduling shakeup. It wouldn't surprise me if they just kicked him to the curb completely, especially since his show has been degrading in quality every season (e.g. started live in front of an audience, now it's a ridiculous looking pre-taped, one-man production).

And speaking of Ferguson, who's to say he wants to take over for Letterman or even remain in late night TV? I thought he had made a comment at last year's TCA about not wanting to do this forever... then again, nothing Ferguson says can be taken seriously.
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: BrandonFG on January 09, 2010, 01:40:39 AM
[quote name=\'Mr. Brown\' post=\'233932\' date=\'Jan 9 2010, 01:31 AM\']"Where is Carson Daly in all this?" Seriously, his show hasn't been mentioned at all in these discussions of NBC's scheduling shakeup.[/quote]
I wondered that ever since Jimmy Fallon was given a show. That's not a slam on Jimmy Fallon mind you, but I found it odd that everyone else got upgraded slots, except Carson. Conan going to The Tonight Show was announced a couple of years into Carson's show, so I would've thought they would've groomed him for a 12:35 (12:37?) time slot.
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: chris319 on January 09, 2010, 01:47:14 AM
Two words:

Concentration Hour.
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: Jimmy Owen on January 09, 2010, 03:37:08 AM
Does this mean NBC's only current weekday game show "Poker After Dark" will move to 2:35?
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: mmb5 on January 09, 2010, 09:25:29 AM
[quote name=\'Mr. Brown\' post=\'233932\' date=\'Jan 9 2010, 01:31 AM\']I'm going to have to repeat something Craig Ferguson brought up on last night's show - "Where is Carson Daly in all this?" Seriously, his show hasn't been mentioned at all in these discussions of NBC's scheduling shakeup. It wouldn't surprise me if they just kicked him to the curb completely, especially since his show has been degrading in quality every season (e.g. started live in front of an audience, now it's a ridiculous looking pre-taped, one-man production).[/quote]

Since he recently took a full-time morning shift at an LA radio station, I believe Mr. Daly felt he was on the way out even before this.


--Mike
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: bwood on January 09, 2010, 10:13:03 AM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'233945\' date=\'Jan 9 2010, 09:25 AM\'][quote name=\'Mr. Brown\' post=\'233932\' date=\'Jan 9 2010, 01:31 AM\']I'm going to have to repeat something Craig Ferguson brought up on last night's show - "Where is Carson Daly in all this?" Seriously, his show hasn't been mentioned at all in these discussions of NBC's scheduling shakeup. It wouldn't surprise me if they just kicked him to the curb completely, especially since his show has been degrading in quality every season (e.g. started live in front of an audience, now it's a ridiculous looking pre-taped, one-man production).[/quote]

Since he recently took a full-time morning shift at an LA radio station, I believe Mr. Daly felt he was on the way out even before this.


--Mike
[/quote]

Carson appeared on Jimmy Kimmel last night in an audience bit where Jimmy took questions from the audience about the whole late night shakeup and late night in general. Eventually they came to one audience member and it was Carson Daly. Jimmy asked him if he had his immunity idol (which he did) when Carson asked "What about my show?". So, it looks like Carson isn't really taking it seriously (and doesn't really care) and figures he's on the chopping block.
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: Jimmy Owen on January 09, 2010, 10:30:31 AM
Cool that NBC allows one of its late night talk show hosts appear on an ABC late night talk show.   I say fire all of them and bring in Ryan Seacrest. :)  Seriously, though,  isn't Leno getting close to the age Johnny Carson was when he retired?
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: Matt Ottinger on January 09, 2010, 10:59:36 AM
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'233949\' date=\'Jan 9 2010, 10:30 AM\']Seriously, though,  isn't Leno getting close to the age Johnny Carson was when he retired?[/quote]
Several years away, actually.  Carson was 67 when he retired.  Leno will be 60 in April.

Wish I'd seen the Carson Daly thing on Kimmel.  I've never been a fan of Daly, and I'm too old to "get" Kimmel's show, but that sounds pretty inspired.
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: Fedya on January 09, 2010, 11:17:49 AM
Quote
Some of the other existing NBC primetime will probably shift from their current timeslots into those 10PM slots, but even though the Peacock has until the other side of the Olympics before the 10PM hour officially opens up, there will still be timeslots to fill as it's gonna take a lot to fill 33% of their weeknight schedule with somewhat decent programming.
How many hours of Dateline Perverts can they produce at short notice?
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: chad1m on January 09, 2010, 02:22:17 PM
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'233949\' date=\'Jan 9 2010, 10:30 AM\']Cool that NBC allows one of its late night talk show hosts appear on an ABC late night talk show.[/quote]They did a stunt a couple of years ago where Leno was on Kimmel's show the same night Kimmel was on Leno's show.
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'233951\' date=\'Jan 9 2010, 10:59 AM\']Wish I'd seen the Carson Daly thing on Kimmel.[/quote]Voila (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYzapxtLQbM\").
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: NickS on January 09, 2010, 02:36:30 PM
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'233921\' date=\'Jan 8 2010, 10:31 PM\']With all of the bad raps Letterman has been getting from his misadventures in 2009, I would think the dark horse in all this would be that CBS would start thinking of "retirement" for Dave, naming Craig Ferguson as Dave's replacement @ 11:35, with the Conan taking the 12:35 slot.[/quote]

I see Jon Stewart taking over for Letterman before Craig does, but that's just me.  Quite frankly, I don't think CBS has to do a thing as long as the bad press is going on regarding Late Night Wars II over at NBC.
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: rialtus on January 09, 2010, 02:37:16 PM
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'233949\' date=\'Jan 9 2010, 07:30 AM\']Cool that NBC allows one of its late night talk show hosts appear on an ABC late night talk show.[/quote]Those two in particular go way back though. Daly got started in the business working for Kimmel as an intern at KCMG-FM in Palm Springs before they both end up at KROQ-FM in Los Angeles. Reference: L. A. Times (http://\"http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-carson-daly2-2010jan02,0,6811290.story\")
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: DjohnsonCB on January 09, 2010, 02:59:18 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'233951\' date=\'Jan 9 2010, 11:59 AM\']Wish I'd seen the Carson Daly thing on Kimmel.  I've never been a fan of Daly, and I'm too old to "get" Kimmel's show, but that sounds pretty inspired.[/quote]
Chances are, the whole episode might be posted on the show's site.
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: Neumms on January 10, 2010, 02:43:03 PM
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'233935\' date=\'Jan 9 2010, 01:47 AM\']Two words:

Concentration Hour.[/quote]

You left out "$1,000,000 Concentration Hour." Not sure if "$1,000,000" counts as a word.
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: Mr. Bill on January 10, 2010, 05:11:36 PM
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'233938\' date=\'Jan 9 2010, 03:37 AM\']Does this mean NBC's only current weekday game show "Poker After Dark" will move to 2:35?[/quote]
"Poker After Dark" will be somewhere.  The new season just started this past week.

A thought:  Since it's always dark by 10 PM, move the poker to weeknights at 10 and leave the title as is because it will still be after dark.  I don't see how the ratings for that could be any lower than Jay's have been.`

Then Jay at 11:35 -- from what I understand, it will become just a monologue and a couple of comedy bits.  Move Conan to 12:05, putting him directly opposite Jimmy Kimmel.  Carson airs at 1:05 and could be extended to a full hour, allowing for more interviews and music.

Part of this may happen, but I'm pretty sure the poker will stay at 2:05 am..

Finally, I've heard Fox is waiting with an open checkbook to catch Conan if he chooses to bail out of NBC.
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: Don Howard on January 10, 2010, 05:28:49 PM
[quote name=\'Mr. Bill\' post=\'234036\' date=\'Jan 10 2010, 05:11 PM\']Jay at 11:35 -- from what I understand, it will become just a monologue and a couple of comedy bits.  Move Conan to 12:05, putting him directly opposite Jimmy Kimmel.  Carson airs at 1:05 and could be extended to a full hour, allowing for more interviews and music.[/quote]
Have you forgotten about Jimmy Fallon or does your scenario have him getting pink-slipped?
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: rwalker on January 10, 2010, 06:14:20 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100110/tv_nm/us_leno_2 (http://\"http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100110/tv_nm/us_leno_2\")

I think NBC is gonna pull DOND out of the mothballs at least for a few sweeps runs. They don't have a heck of alot to fill that slot, except for reruns. Aren't most of the Hollywood productions done for the season already?

I have a feeling we will also see some extra "Howie's Got Talent" also. That seemed to be a decent ratings thing for them

Roker Feud again maybe? Wouldn't doubt it!
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: J.R. on January 10, 2010, 09:57:01 PM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'234037\' date=\'Jan 10 2010, 04:28 PM\']Have you forgotten about Jimmy Fallon or does your scenario have him getting pink-slipped?[/quote]
That would honestly be a real shame. I'm just now beginning to appreciate Fallon's style.

He's learning and getting better, slowly, but he's getting there.
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: clemon79 on January 11, 2010, 02:40:18 AM
[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'234066\' date=\'Jan 10 2010, 06:57 PM\']That would honestly be a real shame. I'm just now beginning to appreciate Fallon's style.
He's learning and getting better, slowly, but he's getting there.[/quote]
I gave Fallon a game chance. I finally gave up and switched to Craig Ferguson. Fallon simply isn't funny.

I wish I'd done it years ago. Ferguson is a genius.
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: chris319 on January 11, 2010, 11:36:00 AM
[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'234017\' date=\'Jan 10 2010, 11:43 AM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'233935\' date=\'Jan 9 2010, 01:47 AM\']Two words:

Concentration Hour.[/quote]

You left out "$1,000,000 Concentration Hour." Not sure if "$1,000,000" counts as a word.[/quote]
Let's see -- nine dollar values ranging from $0.01 to $1,000,000:

$0.01

$0.10

$1

$10

$100

$1,000

$10,000

$100,000

$1,000,000

x 2 = 18 plus 2 takes, 2 forfeits and 3 wild cards = 25 squares. Yeah, it could work.
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Post by: RyanCDN on January 11, 2010, 11:41:34 AM
[quote name=\'DjohnsonCB\' post=\'233930\' date=\'Jan 9 2010, 12:14 AM\']Since Conan had to uproot his family to move to L.A., he deserves to get something for his trouble--maybe a once-a-week free form hour in prime time.  Jack Paar had one on Fridays in the early-to-mid '60s that did pretty well.  As for games, I could suggest a couple, but they'd never go for them.[/quote]


I agree about his troubles, but I don't think this will be a problem.  I think Conan is really in the driver's seat from all of this.  Me personally, I preferred his material when he was on at 12:30 (or 12:35) - I have no clue why, it just seemed better.

-Ryan
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: rugrats1 on January 11, 2010, 12:43:47 PM
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'234101\' date=\'Jan 11 2010, 11:36 AM\'][quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'234017\' date=\'Jan 10 2010, 11:43 AM\']
You left out "$1,000,000 Concentration Hour." Not sure if "$1,000,000" counts as a word.[/quote]
Let's see -- nine dollar values ranging from $0.01 to $1,000,000:

$0.01

$0.10

$1

$10

$100

$1,000

$10,000

$100,000

$1,000,000

x 2 = 18 plus 2 takes, 2 forfeits and 3 wild cards = 25 squares. Yeah, it could work.
[/quote]

I just hope this is the bonus round and not the main game.
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: Don Howard on January 11, 2010, 12:53:35 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'234088\' date=\'Jan 11 2010, 02:40 AM\']Ferguson is a genius.[/quote]
He is terrific, isn't he? I loved Tom Snyder at 12:37am yet couldn't stand Craig Kilborn, but I think Craig Ferguson is outstanding.
I'm happy to see CBS showing signs that it may be owning the late night hours.
As for the five hours to fill (so help me) one of the shows being heralded is an L.A.-based edition of Law & Order.
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: Mr. Bill on January 11, 2010, 01:38:06 PM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'234037\' date=\'Jan 10 2010, 05:28 PM\'][quote name=\'Mr. Bill\' post=\'234036\' date=\'Jan 10 2010, 05:11 PM\']Jay at 11:35 -- from what I understand, it will become just a monologue and a couple of comedy bits.  Move Conan to 12:05, putting him directly opposite Jimmy Kimmel.  Carson airs at 1:05 and could be extended to a full hour, allowing for more interviews and music.[/quote]
Have you forgotten about Jimmy Fallon or does your scenario have him getting pink-slipped?
[/quote]
Thanks for catching my blunder, Don.  I don't know what I was thinking -- if I was even thinking at the time.

OTOH, the latest news stories I've read pretty much confirm that Carson will be the one getting pink-slipped.
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: DealCrane on January 11, 2010, 04:16:05 PM
Well, since NBC has the 10PM slot empty..maybe they can switch a drama that is currently at 9 or 8 and put it at 10 for a good lead in to the news. Then they could bring back Deal or No Deal or Howie Do It.
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: Gus on January 11, 2010, 09:49:03 PM
[quote name=\'DealCrane\' post=\'234130\' date=\'Jan 11 2010, 03:16 PM\']Then they could bring back Deal or No Deal[/quote]
Already said they're not bringing it back.

[quote name=\'DealCrane\' post=\'234130\' date=\'Jan 11 2010, 03:16 PM\']or Howie Do It.[/quote]
DEAR GOD PLUCK OUT MY EYEBALLS NO.


FWIW, NBC's affiliate programming site still lists Leno at 10/9 after the Oly's, so they're still mulling over the replacements.
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: J.R. on January 11, 2010, 11:24:28 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'234088\' date=\'Jan 11 2010, 01:40 AM\']Fallon simply isn't funny.[/quote]
Well, I somewhat (but respectfully) disagree. He's no laugh riot, but he makes me chuckle. Good enough for me.

Different tastes, I suppose.
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Post by: Jay Temple on January 11, 2010, 11:26:26 PM
My wife had a good idea for Fallon: See if he'll come back to SNL.
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Post by: clemon79 on January 12, 2010, 01:42:01 AM
[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'234146\' date=\'Jan 11 2010, 08:24 PM\']Different tastes, I suppose.[/quote]
Absolutely. If we all agreed, I would have a lot of free time on my hands. :)

(Still, though, I urge you to give Ferguson a shot for a week or so, if you haven't already.)
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: dale_grass on January 12, 2010, 07:37:14 AM
[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'234147\' date=\'Jan 11 2010, 11:26 PM\']My wife had a good idea for Fallon: See if he'll come back to SNL.[/quote]
Eh... I never cared for him on SNL too terribly much (he had a few good skits, but was atrocious on Weekend Update).  Besides, Andy Samberg has more or less taken Fallon's 'role' on the show.
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Post by: Matt Ottinger on January 12, 2010, 10:10:43 AM
[quote name=\'Gus\' post=\'234140\' date=\'Jan 11 2010, 09:49 PM\'][quote name=\'DealCrane\' post=\'234130\' date=\'Jan 11 2010, 03:16 PM\']Then they could bring back Deal or No Deal[/quote]
Already said they're not bringing it back.[/quote]
Yeah, and NBC has SUCH a good track record for never, ever, ever changing their minds.
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: chad1m on January 12, 2010, 10:20:27 AM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'234155\' date=\'Jan 12 2010, 01:42 AM\'](Still, though, I urge you to give Ferguson a shot for a week or so, if you haven't already.)[/quote]Whole-heartedly agree. Anyone who can produce a coherent hour comedy talk show featuring nothing but puppets (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6mBnfrDGkY\") deserves that everyone give him a shot.
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Post by: tvmitch on January 12, 2010, 11:48:52 AM
I don't know what the big deal is for NBC to plug programming here. Law and Order repeats, or new episodes. Bring L&O: CI back to NBC. Bam, done, good ratings, happy affiliates.

I don't really see the lack of Leno at 10pm causing some big problem with NBC and finding additional programming. They have plenty to go around.
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Post by: Joe Mello on January 12, 2010, 11:59:41 AM
[quote name=\'tvmitch\' post=\'234168\' date=\'Jan 12 2010, 11:48 AM\']I don't really see the lack of Leno at 10pm causing some big problem with NBC and finding additional programming. They have plenty to go around.[/quote]
The password is "quality" *ding*

I don't think just putting a drama in the 10 slot will automatically mean restored ratings.  I think it'll have to be a new series.
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Post by: Don Howard on January 12, 2010, 01:07:03 PM
[quote name=\'tvmitch\' post=\'234168\' date=\'Jan 12 2010, 11:48 AM\']Bring L&O: CI back to NBC.[/quote]
This one I can see them doing. Jeff Goldblum completely phasing Vincent D'Onofrio out might bring fresh eyes to the show.
Heck, they can put the flagship show on one night, SVU another, their new LA edition on a third, CI on a 4th and that leaves a 5th for the redo of The Rockford Files the network is considering.
[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'234170\' date=\'Jan 12 2010, 11:59 AM\']The password is "quality" *ding*[/quote]
Precisely. Hopefully, NBC is aware of this.
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: rwalker on January 12, 2010, 08:08:26 PM
[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'234146\' date=\'Jan 11 2010, 11:24 PM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'234088\' date=\'Jan 11 2010, 01:40 AM\']Fallon simply isn't funny.[/quote]
Well, I somewhat (but respectfully) disagree. He's no laugh riot, but he makes me chuckle. Good enough for me.

Different tastes, I suppose.
[/quote]


I actually stayed up for this last night. Truth be told, I never knew what Fallon looked like, let alone, ever watched him. He looks like a young Gene Rayburn imho(from the one '62 episode of MG that does exist). He can improve, but I thought he was a heck of a lot better than Conan. Fallon isn't ready for the tonight snow seat, yet, but he'll be there one day

/if NBC doesn't totally fold on their late night gigs, that is
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: J.R. on January 13, 2010, 02:02:48 AM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'234155\' date=\'Jan 12 2010, 12:42 AM\'](Still, though, I urge you to give Ferguson a shot for a week or so, if you haven't already.)[/quote]
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'234165\' date=\'Jan 12 2010, 09:20 AM\']Whole-heartedly agree. Anyone who can produce a coherent hour comedy talk show featuring nothing but puppets (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6mBnfrDGkY\") deserves that everyone give him a shot.[/quote]
Well, I did indeed give Ferguson a try tonight...

I absolutely LOVED it. Had me in stitches throughout almost the entire show.

I'll need to watch a couple more to be sure, but I think you may have a convert here.

Thanks! :)
Title: 5 Hours to Fill
Post by: TimK2003 on January 13, 2010, 10:30:40 AM
FWIW, during last night's monologue, Conan had played a (cheesy) Deal or No Deal-type game with Howie Mandel.  Even Howie got into the peacock bashing when mentioning why the 6 models were not the real ones from his DoND show(s).  He said bluntly that they were all FIRED...But they'll be on later tonight.

As I have said to some of the younger generation:  Compare Letterman 2010 to Letterman 1980 (daytime) or Letterman 1983 (Late Night) and you'll see that Dave has lost a lot of his creativity & spontaneity.  He is now down to recycling older bits and is now just "phoning it in" (IMHO, half a monologue of "It was soooo ________ in NYC today" jokes is lame).   If you look at Conan's shtick, he started out doing pretty much the same things that Uncle Dave did in his early years and is still doing it.  Granted, Conan hasn't clicked with as many viewers as quickly as maybe Dave, Jay, or even Craig Ferguson, but he is still trying to be different and unpredictable.

One of the reasons why I can't stand Jay anymore is because most of the time I couldn't tell if he was delivering the monologue to the viewers, or if he was just talking to Kevin Eubanks -- The Human McKenzie laugh track machine.

/Anybody remember Letterman's first Late Night Show, when throughout the program they were showing different types of welding???
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Post by: Don Howard on January 13, 2010, 10:38:49 AM
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'234263\' date=\'Jan 13 2010, 10:30 AM\']One of the reasons why I can't stand Jay anymore is because most of the time I couldn't tell if he was delivering the monologue to the viewers, or if he was just talking to Kevin Eubanks -- The Human McKenzie laugh track machine.[/quote]
Oh, goodness, yes. Right on target, Tim.

By the by, if any of you caught Jimmy Kimmel Live! last night, were you cracking up as I was every time Jimmy (wearing a Leno wig and chin and sounding like Leno) said during his monologue, "Did you hear about this?" when going to a topical joke. My sides were literally aching.
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Post by: tpirfan28 on January 13, 2010, 10:44:42 AM
[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'234253\' date=\'Jan 13 2010, 02:02 AM\']Well, I did indeed give Ferguson a try tonight...
I absolutely LOVED it.[/quote]
Normally I'm not up at that time, so I recorded Ferguson last night.  That was brilliance.

And Tim nailed it about Leno - every night there's a punch about a Philly sports team (Phillies/Eagles/etc.).
/He's got fifteen jokes a night it seems
//Five "new", five of yesterday, five of "LOL gotta make the audience laugh".
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Post by: Joe Mello on January 13, 2010, 11:13:19 AM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'234176\' date=\'Jan 12 2010, 01:07 PM\'][quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'234170\' date=\'Jan 12 2010, 11:59 AM\']The password is "quality" *ding*[/quote]
Precisely. Hopefully, NBC is aware of this.[/quote]
Considering all of this nonsense is primarily NBC's handiwork, I highly doubt it.

[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'234253\' date=\'Jan 13 2010, 02:02 AM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'234155\' date=\'Jan 12 2010, 12:42 AM\'](Still, though, I urge you to give Ferguson a shot for a week or so, if you haven't already.)[/quote]
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'234165\' date=\'Jan 12 2010, 09:20 AM\']Whole-heartedly agree. Anyone who can produce a coherent hour comedy talk show featuring nothing but puppets (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6mBnfrDGkY\") deserves that everyone give him a shot.[/quote]
I absolutely LOVED it. Had me in stitches throughout almost the entire show.
I'll need to watch a couple more to be sure, but I think you may have a convert here.[/quote]
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'234265\' date=\'Jan 13 2010, 10:44 AM\']Normally I'm not up at that time, so I recorded Ferguson last night.  That was brilliance.[/quote]

Eeeeeeeexcellent.  Come to the dark side. >:)

/Was a fan since about '07
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Post by: TimK2003 on January 13, 2010, 05:33:53 PM
[quote name=\'tvmitch\' post=\'234168\' date=\'Jan 12 2010, 09:48 AM\']I don't know what the big deal is for NBC to plug programming here. Law and Order repeats, or new episodes. Bring L&O: CI back to NBC. Bam, done, good ratings, happy affiliates.

I don't really see the lack of Leno at 10pm causing some big problem with NBC and finding additional programming. They have plenty to go around.[/quote]


All Comcast has to do is pull some homemade shows from some of their cable coverage areas and call it "The Best Of Comcast Local Access Channel".  
Hey, some of those amateurish shows could probably do better in ratings than some of the shows already on NBC.


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One of the reasons why I can't stand Jay anymore is because most of the time I couldn't tell if he was delivering the monologue to the viewers, or if he was just talking to Kevin Eubanks -- The Guitar-Holding Human McKenzie laugh track machine.

Forgot about the guitar earlier...It's an important special effect.

/"Comcast Presents: The Search For The Next 'Wayne's World' -- NBC Friday".
//It's Comcastic!!!
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Post by: Fedya on January 13, 2010, 10:07:24 PM
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All Comcast has to do is pull some homemade shows from some of their cable coverage areas and call it "The Best Of Comcast Local Access Channel".
Anybody else remember PM Magazine (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PM_Magazine\")?
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Post by: Joe Mello on January 13, 2010, 10:25:24 PM
[quote name=\'Fedya\' post=\'234321\' date=\'Jan 13 2010, 10:07 PM\']
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All Comcast has to do is pull some homemade shows from some of their cable coverage areas and call it "The Best Of Comcast Local Access Channel".
Anybody else remember PM Magazine (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PM_Magazine\")?
[/quote]
Yes, but for unfortunate reasons (http://\"http://kdka.com/local/Yvonne.Zanos.remembered.2.1414813.html\")
/Evening Magazine was how she started
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Post by: Don Howard on January 14, 2010, 07:51:21 AM
[quote name=\'Fedya\' post=\'234321\' date=\'Jan 13 2010, 10:07 PM\']Anybody else remember PM Magazine (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PM_Magazine\")?[/quote]
Yes. In my town, Bowling For Dollars was canceled to make room for it.
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Post by: Mr. Armadillo on January 14, 2010, 09:24:41 AM
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'234263\' date=\'Jan 13 2010, 09:30 AM\']As I have said to some of the younger generation:  Compare Letterman 2010 to Letterman 1980 (daytime) or Letterman 1983 (Late Night) and you'll see that Dave has lost a lot of his creativity & spontaneity.  He is now down to recycling older bits and is now just "phoning it in" (IMHO, half a monologue of "It was soooo ________ in NYC today" jokes is lame).[/quote]
Is he still saying "Not a match, the board goes back" every time he says something stupid (ie, twelve times an episode)?  Haven't watched in a few years.

/Was a fan of Ferguson until early '08 or so
//Stupid day job
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Post by: Twentington on January 14, 2010, 12:18:37 PM
[quote name=\'Mr. Armadillo\' post=\'234338\' date=\'Jan 14 2010, 09:24 AM\']Is he still saying "Not a match, the board goes back" every time he says something stupid (ie, twelve times an episode)?  Haven't watched in a few years.[/quote]

No. I'm only a semi-regular watcher of his show, and I actually haven't heard him do a game show reference in a while. (I say semi-regular because it seems lately, two weeks out of three are repeats.)

/is another Craig Ferguson fan
//got a clue about him right on Jeopardy! last night
///none of the contestants knew it
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Post by: TimK2003 on January 15, 2010, 12:33:20 AM
And if anybody is looking for a near-mint condition talk show set, looks like Conan & Company have a deal for you... (http://\"http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/clt/1551463643.html\")


/Guess it's too small to fit Jay's current ego trip now that he whined his way back into The Tonight Show.