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Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: mmb5 on December 15, 2009, 10:28:57 PM
After wrestling back my content from an uncooperative Wiki, I've relaunched the site.  No more Wiki.  Plus 5 new pilot reviews!  And much more to come soon, now that free time has come back into my life after a six month hiatus.

http://www.usgameshows.net (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net\")


--Mike
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on December 15, 2009, 10:34:33 PM
I noticed that one of the new pilots you have up there is Spin-Off, which is not to be confused with the 1975 Jim Lange game show of the same name.

Speaking of the 1975 Spin-Off Mike, do you have any solid evidence, valid arguments, and valid points to prove that the tapes for that show have not been converted to a current tape format at all?

/Sorry if I come off as a broken record.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: JasonA1 on December 15, 2009, 11:20:40 PM
The stuff on American "Countdown" was great. I didn't follow from your article, though, how the scoring worked. What if one team had a 7 and 4 letter word, and the other team had two 6 letter words? Would the latter team get 12, because they had the higher total points? Or would team one get 11 because one team member had the longest word?

-Jason
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Matt Ottinger on December 16, 2009, 12:52:37 AM
[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'232380\' date=\'Dec 15 2009, 11:20 PM\']The stuff on American "Countdown" was great. I didn't follow from your article, though, how the scoring worked. What if one team had a 7 and 4 letter word, and the other team had two 6 letter words? Would the latter team get 12, because they had the higher total points? Or would team one get 11 because one team member had the longest word?[/quote]
It wasn't like the British version.  Both teams received the total combined points for both their words.  Longest word didn't matter, except for simply having a point or two more than the other team.

/Yes, I got to watch a lot of them with Mike.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: BrandonFG on December 16, 2009, 01:05:07 AM
And, even though I've read the pilot review a hundred times, I'm still incredibly thankful that Donnymid was not like the attempted pilot in 1996 or '97.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: ethanmx2 on December 16, 2009, 01:16:17 AM
Just read through some of the pilots... I'm amazed Countdown was attempted here way back when. Shocked it didn't get picked up. But, perhaps for the better, since the British version is way better than what I've read in the US pilot.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: mmb5 on December 16, 2009, 08:30:47 AM
[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'232376\' date=\'Dec 15 2009, 10:34 PM\']Speaking of the 1975 Spin-Off Mike, do you have any solid evidence, valid arguments, and valid points to prove that the tapes for that show have not been converted to a current tape format at all?

/Sorry if I come off as a broken record.[/quote]
No.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Twentington on December 16, 2009, 11:44:47 PM
You still have a few stray leftover (and dead) links from the wiki software. Most of these seem to occur on CamelCased words such as ViewMaster and McGraw.

Other than that, a very interesting read as always. Nice to finally see new stuff.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: golden-road on December 17, 2009, 12:39:52 AM
Question about the Countdown pilot: You said that the classic theme was retained, so I was wondering if the set was a copy of the original set, or a new one?
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: mmb5 on December 17, 2009, 09:07:50 AM
[quote name=\'golden-road\' post=\'232486\' date=\'Dec 17 2009, 12:39 AM\']Question about the Countdown pilot: You said that the classic theme was retained, so I was wondering if the set was a copy of the original set, or a new one?[/quote]
Very different.  Players were on one side, host had no podium, the two word authorities were in their own space, and the letter board resembled the one on Caesar's Challenge.


--Mike
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: aaron sica on December 17, 2009, 09:37:51 AM
Mike, I've read your descriptions for the MG90 pilots and I'm really intrigued...The most I ever saw was a clip from the pilot on one of the blooper specials..Any way any still pictures of the pilots can make their way to the page?
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: mmb5 on December 17, 2009, 12:05:27 PM
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' post=\'232493\' date=\'Dec 17 2009, 09:37 AM\']Mike, I've read your descriptions for the MG90 pilots and I'm really intrigued...The most I ever saw was a clip from the pilot on one of the blooper specials..Any way any still pictures of the pilots can make their way to the page?[/quote]
All I would be able to do is add stills from that clip, since that's all I have.  If it's a UCLA viewing (like MG90 was), I don't get to keep the media afterward.  Lord knows I tried to think of ways.


--Mike
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Fedya on December 17, 2009, 12:13:15 PM
Quote
If it's a UCLA viewing (like MG90 was), I don't get to keep the media afterward. Lord knows I tried to think of ways.
Point a cameraphone at the monitor.  ;-)
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: mmb5 on December 20, 2009, 09:45:44 PM
Four more:

Top Secret  (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=TopSecret&sort=1\")
Second Honeymoon (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=SecondHoneymoon&sort=1\") (unrelated to the eventual airing one)
Cosby's You Bet Your Life (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=YouBetYourLife1991&sort=1\")
Monopoly (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=Monopoly1987&sort=1\") (the Summers run-through)


--Mike
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: dazztardly on December 21, 2009, 02:45:09 AM
Thank you, Mike :)

-Dan
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: dazztardly on January 04, 2010, 05:26:22 AM
http://www.globaleffects.com/B_pages/09_Sets/monopol2h.JPG (http://\"http://www.globaleffects.com/B_pages/09_Sets/monopol2h.JPG\") - I found this photo as being used in a Monopoly pilot. Was this from the Marc Summers runthrough?
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: mmb5 on January 04, 2010, 09:42:22 AM
[quote name=\'dazztardly\' post=\'233515\' date=\'Jan 4 2010, 05:26 AM\']http://www.globaleffects.com/B_pages/09_Sets/monopol2h.JPG (http://\"http://www.globaleffects.com/B_pages/09_Sets/monopol2h.JPG\") - I found this photo as being used in a Monopoly pilot. Was this from the Marc Summers runthrough?[/quote]

Looks like it.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Clay Zambo on January 04, 2010, 11:16:34 AM
Now, that is one sweet Monopoly board.  It'd take up an awful lot of closet space between games, but worth it.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: mmb5 on January 05, 2010, 11:10:35 PM
Three more plus a special page:

Nothing But the Truth (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=NothingButTheTruth&sort=1\")
Temptation (1981) (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=Temptation1981&sort=1\")
Combination Lock (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=CombinationLock&sort=1\")
Bob Stewart Flow Chart (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=stewart_flow&sort=1\")
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Matt Ottinger on January 05, 2010, 11:15:54 PM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'233688\' date=\'Jan 5 2010, 11:10 PM\']Bob Stewart Flow Chart (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=stewart_flow&sort=1\")[/quote]
That there's genius, is what that is.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: mmb5 on January 05, 2010, 11:40:37 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'233689\' date=\'Jan 5 2010, 11:15 PM\'][quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'233688\' date=\'Jan 5 2010, 11:10 PM\']Bob Stewart Flow Chart (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=stewart_flow&sort=1\")[/quote]
That there's genius, is what that is.

[/quote]

And credit yourself for suggesting it.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Chief-O on January 05, 2010, 11:50:49 PM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'233688\' date=\'Jan 5 2010, 10:10 PM\']Three more plus a special page:
[snip]
Bob Stewart Flow Chart (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=stewart_flow&sort=1\")[/quote]

Wha??? "Decisions Decisions"???
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: trainman on January 06, 2010, 01:03:18 AM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'233688\' date=\'Jan 5 2010, 08:10 PM\']Bob Stewart Flow Chart (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=stewart_flow&sort=1\")[/quote]

I was laughing out loud by the time I got down to "Was he an eligible receiver?"
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Matt Ottinger on January 06, 2010, 10:28:29 AM
[quote name=\'Chief-O\' post=\'233693\' date=\'Jan 5 2010, 11:50 PM\']Wha??? "Decisions Decisions"???[/quote]
Not sure what you're asking with your "Wha???", but if you're trying to point out that Decisions, Decisions is not a Bob Stewart pilot, you would be correct.  Neither is 20 Questions, for that matter.  Even more confusing, the Twenty Questions pilot that Mike describes on his website is not the same as the 20 Questions pilot that he has on the Bob Stewart Flow Chart, which WAS hosted by Jack Clark and definitely had a Stewart-ish vibe to it, but in fact was produced by one of our Forum members.  (Hi, Ronnie!)

If your "Wha???" was a request for information about Decisions, Decisions, Mike has a page on it (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=DecisionsDecisions&sort=0\"), as does Adam Nedeff (http://\"http://www.gameshowutopia.net/decisions.htm\").
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: mmb5 on January 06, 2010, 11:09:52 AM
Mistakes were made.  I just searched for the name Stewart in all my pilots, and occasionally Jay Stewart came out as a false positive.


--Mike
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Chief-O on January 06, 2010, 12:03:46 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'233711\' date=\'Jan 6 2010, 09:28 AM\']Not sure what you're asking with your "Wha???", but if you're trying to point out that Decisions, Decisions is not a Bob Stewart pilot, you would be correct.[/quote]

Yes, that is what I meant.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: clemon79 on January 06, 2010, 01:49:01 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'233689\' date=\'Jan 5 2010, 08:15 PM\'][quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'233688\' date=\'Jan 5 2010, 11:10 PM\']Bob Stewart Flow Chart (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=stewart_flow&sort=1\")[/quote]
That there's genius, is what that is.[/quote]
Trying not to take away from the genius, but aren't the "yes" and "no" answers reversed in "Are there more celebrities than contestants?"

Absolutely, utterly, brilliant.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Fan4Sure on January 08, 2010, 03:41:06 PM
Hey, mmb5. Would I like to see more pilot pages, Please?
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: TLEberle on January 08, 2010, 06:56:18 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'233887\' date=\'Jan 8 2010, 12:41 PM\']Hey, mmb5. Would I like to see more pilot pages, Please?[/quote]That's an excellent question, but you're asking the wrong person.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on January 08, 2010, 11:05:44 PM
Hey, three and a half weeks.  I think that's a record!
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Twentington on January 09, 2010, 12:40:11 AM
I agree, that flowchart's brilliant.

Also, Mike, you've still got a ton of broken links all over your pages. Mind if I shoot you an e-mail of which pages have 'em so you can clean up as necessary?

(Oh, and why isn't fan4sure banned yet? I swear, all he's ever done is beg Mike for more pilots.)
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Allstar87 on January 09, 2010, 02:38:05 AM
[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'233927\' date=\'Jan 9 2010, 12:40 AM\']Oh, and why isn't fan4sure banned yet?[/quote]

My guess is that he's kept around here just for comic relief.

I am stunned at how unable/unwilling he is to grow a clue; he's been pulling this crap for almost 2 years now. (He's one of the very few I've banned from my YouTube page.)
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: clemon79 on January 09, 2010, 03:43:15 AM
[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'233927\' date=\'Jan 8 2010, 09:40 PM\']Oh, and why isn't fan4sure banned yet?[/quote]
Irony, thy name is Twentington.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Don Howard on January 10, 2010, 10:40:22 AM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'233688\' date=\'Jan 5 2010, 11:10 PM\']Temptation (1981) (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=Temptation1981&sort=1\")[/quote]
So potentially the show on a single episode could be awarding 100 trips to Rome and/or 200 cars?
No one thought this through during the run-through?
I suspect Jed had a day off from his role as Don Craig on Days Of Our Lives that day and figured this pilot was gonna tank, but he'd do his best and accept the $$$ while waiting for his next residual check from the reruns of Lassie.
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'233939\' date=\'Jan 9 2010, 03:43 AM\'][quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'233927\' date=\'Jan 8 2010, 09:40 PM\']Oh, and why isn't fan4sure banned yet?[/quote]
Irony, thy name is Twentington.
[/quote]
Indeed. I'm off to Wikipedia to read about the history of Game Show Congress. Oh, yeah. Can't do that. Thanks, buddy boy.
[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'233927\' date=\'Jan 9 2010, 12:40 AM\']What do you want from me anymore?[/quote]
Sufficiently covered elsewhere.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Allstar87 on January 10, 2010, 04:57:44 PM
[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'233927\' date=\'Jan 9 2010, 12:40 AM\']Bobby freakin' Peacock[/quote]

Ya know, ever since you started signing your posts "Bobby", I had an inkling that's who you were.

[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'233927\' date=\'Jan 9 2010, 12:40 AM\']What do you want from me anymore?[/quote]

I'd like to know how you managed to get back in here.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: JasonA1 on January 10, 2010, 09:41:05 PM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'233995\' date=\'Jan 10 2010, 11:40 AM\']So potentially the show on a single episode could be awarding 100 trips to Rome and/or 200 cars?[/quote]

That's popular logic on this pilot, but Mike in fact mentioned something Jed said as an aside - the final round for the cars was only for one person. The pilot had a situation where only one player got the penultimate question right, so we never saw what would happen to whittle down the remainder to one.

-Jason
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Twentington on January 10, 2010, 09:48:56 PM
[quote name=\'Allstar87\' post=\'234035\' date=\'Jan 10 2010, 04:57 PM\'][quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'233927\' date=\'Jan 9 2010, 12:40 AM\']Bobby freakin' Peacock[/quote]

Ya know, ever since you started signing your posts "Bobby", I had an inkling that's who you were.

[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'233927\' date=\'Jan 9 2010, 12:40 AM\']What do you want from me anymore?[/quote]

I'd like to know how you managed to get back in here.
[/quote]

I'm starting to think I shouldn't even be "back in here." Yelling at the admins, then insisting that Matt ban my TenPoundHammer name because I felt I had nothing to contribute... only to change my mind a few days later and sneak back in -- yeah, easily one of the biggest eff-ups I've committed in this any forum.

But even after I started putting "Bobby" as my sig on this account, I felt that I was starting to turn a corner. Then I suddenly found myself moderated again, with Matt even saying something to the effect of "You were banned, that doesn't mean you get to come back -- but I thought I'd be generous and let you stay here, moderated."

And now, here I am. Even under moderation, I still seem to have an abysmal signal-to-noise ratio, not to mention a reputation barely above that of Zach Horan.

I don't get it. Why is it that I only ever get a blatant case of stupid on this individual forum and absolutely no other? Even other communities that I've been in for as long, or nearly as long?
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: J.R. on January 10, 2010, 09:54:29 PM
[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'233927\' date=\'Jan 8 2010, 11:40 PM\'](Oh, and why isn't fan4sure banned yet? I swear, all he's ever done is beg Mike for more pilots.)[/quote]
While all you do is beg for removing Wikipedia articles.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: TLEberle on January 10, 2010, 10:11:52 PM
[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'234064\' date=\'Jan 10 2010, 06:48 PM\']I don't get it. Why is it that I only ever get a blatant case of stupid on this individual forum and absolutely no other? Even other communities that I've been in for as long, or nearly as long?[/quote]Why don't you? You could, if you wanted, contribute in meaningful ways. You could be funny, charming, clever, or other adjectives I can't recall. But you aren't. You just kinda exist, get in the way, and so on.

I'm not much for new year's resolutions, but I think you ought to consider doing a 180. Not many people have been able to pull it off, so you'd be in small company, but your presence would be far more appreciated.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Twentington on January 10, 2010, 10:13:40 PM
[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'234065\' date=\'Jan 10 2010, 09:54 PM\'][quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'233927\' date=\'Jan 8 2010, 11:40 PM\'](Oh, and why isn't fan4sure banned yet? I swear, all he's ever done is beg Mike for more pilots.)[/quote]
While all you do is beg for removing Wikipedia articles.
[/quote]

Yes, you're absolutely right. I paid a bunch of buddies to agree with me and ensure that Game Show Congress will never have an article on Wikipedia again. I even showed it to Jimbo Wales, and he said, "you're right, it's about as deserving of a Wikipedia article as is my big left toenail. If anyone even tries to create an article on it, I will block them indefinitely, then hunt them down and smash their computer and modem. All hail TenPoundHammer, deletionist extraordinaire. Let him always have his way." </sarcasm>
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Matt Ottinger on January 10, 2010, 10:44:35 PM
[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'234064\' date=\'Jan 10 2010, 09:48 PM\']I don't get it. Why is it that I only ever get a blatant case of stupid on this individual forum and absolutely no other?[/quote]
Well, that's not really accurate, is it?  You've given yourself a pretty bad reputation on the Jeopardy board too.
   
[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'234070\' date=\'Jan 10 2010, 10:13 PM\']Yes, you're absolutely right. I paid a bunch of buddies to agree with me and ensure that Game Show Congress will never have an article on Wikipedia again. I even showed it to Jimbo Wales, and he said, "you're right, it's about as deserving of a Wikipedia article as is my big left toenail. If anyone even tries to create an article on it, I will block them indefinitely, then hunt them down and smash their computer and modem. All hail TenPoundHammer, deletionist extraordinaire. Let him always have his way." </sarcasm>[/quote]
You've been told, directly and specifically, how to improve your reputation both here and on the Jeopardy board.  As I recall, responding to legitimate criticism from game show fans with ugly sarcasm was not one of the options presented to you.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: chad1m on January 10, 2010, 10:50:09 PM
[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'234064\' date=\'Jan 10 2010, 09:48 PM\']Why is it that I only ever get a blatant case of stupid on this individual forum and absolutely no other?[/quote]It's not that your stupidity is only confined to this forum, it's that we're less discreet and comforting in calling you out for it. Trust me, I've been on the Jeopardy! boards two years longer than you have and I've seen your stupidity (hey, your word, not mine) spill over there many a time too.

[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'234070\' date=\'Jan 10 2010, 10:13 PM\']Yes, you're absolutely right. I paid a bunch of buddies to agree with me and ensure that Game Show Congress will never have an article on Wikipedia again.[/quote]Well, when you yourself admitted that you used a friendship with an administrator at the site to further your own agenda of deleting articles with you and your clique's definition of game show notability, that statement isn't too far off.

(For those who don't understand the Wikipedia references, feel free to check out this thread (http://\"http://boards.sonypictures.com/boards/showthread.php?t=43510\") at the Jeopardy! forums.)

/Wishes a Book of Logic would hit you like a ten pound hammer.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: CarbonCpy on January 10, 2010, 11:06:35 PM
[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'234070\' date=\'Jan 10 2010, 10:13 PM\']Yes, you're absolutely right. I paid a bunch of buddies to agree with me and ensure that Game Show Congress will never have an article on Wikipedia again. I even showed it to Jimbo Wales, and he said, "you're right, it's about as deserving of a Wikipedia article as is my big left toenail. If anyone even tries to create an article on it, I will block them indefinitely, then hunt them down and smash their computer and modem. All hail TenPoundHammer, deletionist extraordinaire. Let him always have his way." </sarcasm>[/quote]

As someone who bore witness to a two-month-long pissing match over whether or not the article on crucifixion should have an exhaustive list of anime episodes that used it as a plot device, you're doing a good job of maintaining the stereotype of wikipedia editors being a bunch of insufferable, thin-skinned sperglords to ever game a nomic to their own POV.

EDIT:  And this is coming from someone who's pretty sure his signal-to-noise ratio has to be expressed as an imaginary number.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: BrandonFG on January 10, 2010, 11:08:02 PM
[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'234070\' date=\'Jan 10 2010, 10:13 PM\']Yes, you're absolutely right. I paid a bunch of buddies to agree with me and ensure that Game Show Congress will never have an article on Wikipedia again. I even showed it to Jimbo Wales, and he said, "you're right, it's about as deserving of a Wikipedia article as is my big left toenail. If anyone even tries to create an article on it, I will block them indefinitely, then hunt them down and smash their computer and modem. All hail TenPoundHammer, deletionist extraordinaire. Let him always have his way." </sarcasm>[/quote]
That'll really help your case. </sarcasm>

Plain and simple, it was a dick move. You can justify it all you want, but your attempts to decide what was or was not Wiki-worthy was, again, a dick move. You sound like the type who gets butthurt because someone dares to try and add something relevant to an already existing article {Nasally voice} "Narrr, how dare you! Only I can add facts to the Thundercats* page!!1!"{/Nasally voice}. You need to get outside the house more.

*Apologies to any Thundercats fans or anyone with a nasally voice.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Matt Ottinger on January 10, 2010, 11:10:31 PM
[quote name=\'CarbonCpy\' post=\'234077\' date=\'Jan 10 2010, 11:06 PM\']As someone who bore witness to a two-month-long pissing match over whether or not the article on crucifixion should have an exhaustive list of anime episodes that used it as a plot device, you're doing a good job of maintaining the stereotype of wikipedia editors being a bunch of insufferable, thin-skinned sperglords to ever game a nomic to their own POV.[/quote]
For the record, the discussion over whether the Game Show Congress article should be retained came down to a Wiki regular saying that the legitimate points being made for keeping the article could be ignored, because they didn't come from Wiki regulars.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: CarbonCpy on January 10, 2010, 11:43:37 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'234079\' date=\'Jan 10 2010, 11:10 PM\']For the record, the discussion over whether the Game Show Congress article should be retained came down to a Wiki regular saying that the legitimate points being made for keeping the article could be ignored, because they didn't come from Wiki regulars.[/quote]
Yep, and that was the argument being made by the solitary voice in favor of keeping the anime list in crucifixion, among other such gems as accusing people of having anti-Japanese bigotry.  He ended up just waiting till the heat died down and then reverted the article back.  It finally took spinning off a "Crucifixion in Art" article before the argument entered an uneasy truce.

You know, I've heard someone compare Wikipedia to the world's most boring MMORPG.  The only differences being there's only there's one character class, people camp the "recently changed articles" page instead of spawn points, the battles take forever, and apparently leveling up is determined on how well you've passed yourself off as a PhD.  

The more I think about it, the more I agree with them.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: dale_grass on January 11, 2010, 12:12:05 AM
[quote name=\'CarbonCpy\' post=\'234077\' date=\'Jan 10 2010, 11:06 PM\']And this is coming from someone who's pretty sure his signal-to-noise ratio has to be expressed as an imaginary number.[/quote]
Two-thirds of a pun: P-U. ;)
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: DoorNumberFour on January 11, 2010, 04:15:29 AM
Forgive me, but I just caught up on all of this.

From reading what went down on the Jeopardy board, it seems like TPH/Twentington/Bobby is just a nerd who's found something to control, since it doesn't seem like he's made much of a social dent in these forums otherwise.

It was rather painful reading what happened on the Jeopardy boards, mainly because--obscure or not--someone actually took the time to write those articles about things they're interested in or involved in. It's a great deal of hard work, done with good intentions, gone to waste. As someone who enjoys writing very much, I do not appreciate the work of passionate individuals belittled. And when you read a post like this (http://\"http://boards.sonypictures.com/boards/showthread.php?t=43510&page=3#44\")...I mean, really? There's something wrong.

In the case of the GSC article...the Game Show Congress is a very real, very relevant pillar of our genre as it stands today. We're a bunch of people who maintain an interest in old game shows. They are a facet of broadcasting that the major media players have refused to acknowledge more and more as time goes on. The GSC is really one of the last vestiges of a time when a great deal of people, whether in the TV business or not, appreciated the genre and its qualities as much as we do today. It's done immeasurable good for so many former stars, producers, contestants, and fans like us. It is symbolic of our collective passion, and our drive to preserve what's left of what we love. It's worth a damn Wikipedia article. Read about past events, guests, awards!

The GSC is worth a lot more than you may think, and in the long run, it will be more relevant in the genre's history than any little bullshit squabble about its Wikipedia article.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: mmb5 on January 11, 2010, 09:02:23 AM
Since this has devolved...

To Twentington:  I will admit at first I was ignoring your pleas because frankly last year, at a time when I needed as little BS in my life as possible, you added to it.  Admittedly, a Wiki page is not something to get overly upset about, but you hurt a friend of mine who has devoted a significant amount of resources both financial and personal to a project other people enjoy.  And because of your actions, you not only cost me and others grief, you cost the Wikimedia Foundation itself, because I declined to donate this year because I could not support a group that condoned your behavior.

Let me tell you this personally but I hope others who are in a similar boat see the same message.  Being sarcastic, petty and pedantic will hurt you in the long run.  I have lost friends, missed professional opportunities and hurt others because at one time this is the way I acted.  It is only recently that I have truly seen some of the actions of 10-25 years ago can still have ramifications today.  It will put you in a place you do not want to be in, and it will be much harder to crawl out of the longer you stay.

When the GSC page was put up for deletion, and I had to quickly learn about the process, I figured to myself what would be a convincing way to prove its "worthiness", even though I really shouldn't have had to.  I figured I would research other fan-based "con" conventions, specifically ComicCon.  The 70s version of ComicCon is probably where the GSC is today.  And then I stumbled across this page (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_science_fiction_conventions\"), a list of science fiction conventions, some of which haven't been held for 20 years.  I figured that would be enough to seal the deal.

However, being a neophyte to the system, it wasn't, and the GSC page was deleted.  Now, the old me would have then put up every single comic-book con page up for deletion, all the way up to ComicCon.  However, being older and wiser (mostly older), I just said fine and moved on.  It obviously means something to someone, and I shouldn't hurt anyone else out of pettiness.  Somebody worked hard on those pages, and it shouldn't be my call on whether those pages live or die.

It's a shame, really, because Wikipedia could be something really special.  Instead, it's become a haven for pedantic politics and certain pet hobbies over others.  TV station pages littered with effluvia over theme packages, logos and horror hosts.  A place where the information about the TV series Angel (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_%28TV_series%29\") has more depth than the actual historical concept of an angel (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel\").  And just plain creepiness (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Charles_DeChant&oldid=239184860\").  It would be nice to actually one day use Wikipedia as a bona-fide source of information, but we're nowhere near that yet.

Basically, Bobby, if you want to be liked around here, and it's obvious that is very important to you, think positively, and don't take it the wrong way if nobody responds.  Not everything ever said here or anywhere else requires responses.


--MIke
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: mmb5 on January 11, 2010, 09:04:41 AM
And to revolve it...

I should have more in the next couple of days.  Spent waaay to much time researching one of them, but that's part of the fun.


--Mike
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: clemon79 on January 11, 2010, 11:58:59 AM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'234092\' date=\'Jan 11 2010, 06:02 AM\']Basically, Bobby, if you want to be liked around here, and it's obvious that is very important to you, think positively, and don't take it the wrong way if nobody responds.[/quote]
One more thing, kid:

You've burned an assload of bridges. You're not going to win everyone back, and you have nobody to blame for that but yourself. So when you find out that some people aren't going to turn around on the subject of Bobby Peacock (and I'll give you three guesses as to who is right at the head of that list), you're just gonna have to deal with it. Trying's just gonna make it worse.

I'm reading a Cory Doctorow book right now where the main currency of the society is your esteem in the eyes of others. He calls it, for no reason at all that I've discerned yet, "Whuffie." As in "I pinged his Whuffie and was surprised to find it was off the charts."

Yours is negative.

I really do think you would be best served here just by moving on. As, to someplace else. Seriously. Start fresh with other people. Maybe you'll learn from the mistakes you've made here. I doubt it, but maybe you'll prove me wrong.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Twentington on January 11, 2010, 11:16:41 PM
Okay, first off, my sarcasm was uncalled for.

I have been trying to gather sources to rebuild the article on the Game Show Congress. However, I can't find much of anything other than a.) self-published press releases and b.) articles that say "Game show personality X won the Y award at this year's Game Show Congress" without mentioning GSC anywhere else in the article. But wait, what's this (http://\"http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-135287627.html\")? Where was that last time? What about the mention in Bob Harris' book? That might be useful!

Oh yeah, and there's this (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2010_January_12#12_January_2010\"). Deletion review. Actual effort from me to see if we've got enough to call for an un-deletion. I think it actually has a chance, myself, but I'm taking it to deletion review so it can be restored to its last form before deletion, and then built onto from there.

TLEberle -- I actually have tried being witty on this very forum before. Nearly every single time, the responses were along the lines of "You just don't know how to be funny, do you?" I'm really not that different in real life than I come across on the forum: constantly cracking "jokes" about everything, spewing sarcasm whether or not it's called for, and usually when it's not. As I said, I'm really no different on any other forum, but just because everyone else tolerates me doesn't mean that this forum is to blame.

Clemon79 -- you have a point. It's obvious that even when I make what I consider a "good" post, it doesn't really go over well at all. So maybe what I need to do is just stick to reading posts unless I have something really important to say. For instance, I tried out for Wheel of Fortune back in November; when I get on the show, of course I'm going to make a post about it here.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: TLEberle on January 12, 2010, 12:18:11 AM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'234103\' date=\'Jan 11 2010, 08:58 AM\']He calls it, for no reason at all that I've discerned yet, "Whuffie." As in "I pinged his Whuffie and was surprised to find it was off the charts."[/quote]The 'Pedia article (oy, the coincidence!) says that it is in fact a made up word.

But we all have a Whuffie-meter for every person we contact. If someone on the board is funny, thought-provoking and insightful, the whuffie flows like coins from a slot machine. If they ramble, can't cut/paste properly, overdose on the punctuation or S P O I L E R  S P A C E, or are generally a pain in the buttocks, their-W count drops like a rock. And I do treat people differently depending on my perception of them at that particular moment. I do it with people in my off-board life too. I think each of us does.

I don't think there is enough time in the universe for Mr. Peacock to dig himself out of the hole, and that doesn't even take into account that I think he should lose 2x the whuffie for continuing the hissy fit after we all told him how to get back on the straight and/or narrow.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: clemon79 on January 12, 2010, 01:44:26 AM
I am amazed (but unsurprised) that "Whuffie" has its own Wiki entry. :)

/which I only glossed over - I don't want to have it spoil something in the book
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: mmb5 on January 12, 2010, 08:36:32 AM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'234156\' date=\'Jan 12 2010, 01:44 AM\']I am amazed (but unsurprised) that "Whuffie" has its own Wiki entry. :)

/which I only glossed over - I don't want to have it spoil something in the book[/quote]

The irony of having a Wiki page about a fictional concept by a minor science fiction writer in one book as opposed to tangible event that occurred seven times (GSC) or over 1,000 times (Quizbusters).


--Mike
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: clemon79 on January 12, 2010, 12:08:10 PM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'234162\' date=\'Jan 12 2010, 05:36 AM\']The irony of having a Wiki page about a fictional concept by a minor science fiction writer in one book as opposed to tangible event that occurred seven times (GSC) or over 1,000 times (Quizbusters).[/quote]
And yet, he's still here.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Don Howard on January 12, 2010, 12:31:08 PM
[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'234145\' date=\'Jan 11 2010, 11:16 PM\']Oh yeah, and there's this (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2010_January_12#12_January_2010\"). Deletion review. Actual effort from me to see if we've got enough to call for an un-deletion. I think it actually has a chance, myself, but I'm taking it to deletion review so it can be restored to its last form before deletion, and then built onto from there.[/quote]
.....until someone rubs you the wrong way again. I must confess, I'm way skeptical about your seeming attitude change taking root. I hope I'm mistaken.
In the meantime, until the Congrefs page is restored, be reminded of what you've done every time you see my sig in a posting of mine on this forum and within the Jeopardy! Forum.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Matt Ottinger on January 12, 2010, 01:24:12 PM
[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'234145\' date=\'Jan 11 2010, 11:16 PM\']I have been trying to gather sources to rebuild the article on the Game Show Congress. However, I can't find much of anything other than a.) self-published press releases and b.) articles that say "Game show personality X won the Y award at this year's Game Show Congress" without mentioning GSC anywhere else in the article. But wait, what's this (http://\"http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-135287627.html\")? Where was that last time? What about the mention in Bob Harris' book? That might be useful![/quote]
As I've told you before, the fact that you are uninterested in or incapable of finding sources really shouldn't be the determining factor on deletion.  Meanwhile, you seem to already have forgotten about this one (http://\"http://www.westword.com/2004-10-14/news/daily-double/\").  And there have been others.  How many more do you need before your answer is no longer "just need one more"?

[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'234145\' date=\'Jan 11 2010, 11:16 PM\']Oh yeah, and there's this (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2010_January_12#12_January_2010\"). Deletion review. Actual effort from me to see if we've got enough to call for an un-deletion. I think it actually has a chance, myself, but I'm taking it to deletion review so it can be restored to its last form before deletion, and then built onto from there.[/quote]
The main problem, of course, is that all of this would have been unnecessary if you had behaved like a game show fan in the first place.  Rather than asking for suggestions or help, which you would have gotten, you took unilateral action and even went out of your way to try and circumvent the usual process so that it would happen faster.  

It's sad that the two of you who instigated this, and now have the most control over it, both insist that the criticisms are coming from people who don't understand how Wikipedia works.  We understand it just fine.  We simply know how screwed up it is.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: chad1m on January 12, 2010, 02:33:32 PM
[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'234145\' date=\'Jan 11 2010, 11:16 PM\']I tried out for Wheel of Fortune back in November; when I get on the show, of course I'm going to make a post about it here.[/quote]When? Maybe it's just me but the use of that word seems to continue this vibe I get from you that, for some reason, you have this sense of entitlement with so much. If you acted at the audition the way you act on the internet (which, by your own admission, seems to be the case), you'll be lucky if you don't get a ban from Sony Pictures Raymond-style.

Then again, Wheel has always seemed to be the show most interested in the assclown type so maybe you're perfectly qualified.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Don Howard on January 12, 2010, 02:49:46 PM
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'234183\' date=\'Jan 12 2010, 02:33 PM\'][quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'234145\' date=\'Jan 11 2010, 11:16 PM\']I tried out for Wheel of Fortune back in November; when I get on the show, of course I'm going to make a post about it here.[/quote]When? Maybe it's just me but the use of that word seems to continue this vibe I get from you that, for some reason, you have this sense of entitlement with so much.
[/quote]
He's entitled to a foot inside his ass and nothing more or less.
There's a quote closely associated with Anne Robinson and with George Gray, Bobby. It applies to you. Shame on you.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Twentington on January 12, 2010, 03:53:26 PM
My use of "when" instead of "if" wasn't intended to come off as entitlement, but rather as optimism. Is it wrong to feel confident about my chances?

And as I've indicated, almost no one that I know of has ever referred to my real-life behavior with "obnoxious" or any synonym of the same. And it's not like I'm going to pull a Raymond Taylor and demand that Vanna put those L's up there, scream each puzzle answer as if I were Gerard "This! Is! SPARTA!!" Butler, then spend every waking hour hanging around Culver City, trying to get into the studio.

Matt O -- I knew you had dug up a source, but I couldn't find where you had shown it to me, and couldn't find it myself amid all the Google hits. That one is particularly convincing; among it, Bob Harris' book and a couple other sources I found, we've actually got something now. Since it's currently at deletion review, I have asked the voters in that discussion what they think of the draft (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TenPoundHammer/Game_Show_Congress\") I'm working on. One user has already said that my draft looks good, and the article should be re-created. So yes, I am working not just on getting the GSC article back, but also on improving it.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Matt Ottinger on January 12, 2010, 04:21:17 PM
[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'234190\' date=\'Jan 12 2010, 03:53 PM\']Matt O -- I knew you had dug up a source, but I couldn't find where you had shown it to me, and couldn't find it myself amid all the Google hits. That one is particularly convincing; among it, Bob Harris' book and a couple other sources I found, we've actually got something now. Since it's currently at deletion review, I have asked the voters in that discussion what they think of the draft (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TenPoundHammer/Game_Show_Congress\") I'm working on. One user has already said that my draft looks good, and the article should be re-created. So yes, I am working not just on getting the GSC article back, but also on improving it.[/quote]
This is a good and valiant step in the right direction, and even though I don't know how Wikipedia works, I stumbled through enough to say so on your discussion page.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: clemon79 on January 12, 2010, 04:46:10 PM
[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'234190\' date=\'Jan 12 2010, 12:53 PM\']And as I've indicated, almost no one that I know of has ever referred to my real-life behavior with "obnoxious" or any synonym of the same.[/quote]
Your real-life behavior is not at all relevant to what we think of you here.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Don Howard on January 12, 2010, 04:49:33 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'234197\' date=\'Jan 12 2010, 04:46 PM\'][quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'234190\' date=\'Jan 12 2010, 12:53 PM\']And as I've indicated, almost no one that I know of has ever referred to my real-life behavior with "obnoxious" or any synonym of the same.[/quote]
Your real-life behavior is not at all relevant to what we think of you here.
[/quote]
Truth. Bobby, why don't you invite your real-life buds into this forum sometime and have 'em get a gander at your cyber-colors?
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: mmb5 on January 12, 2010, 10:13:18 PM
Four more:

ABC Carinval 74 (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=ABCCarinval74&sort=0\")
The Confidence Game (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=ConfidenceGame&sort=0\")
A Question of Scruples (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=QuestionOfScruples&sort=0\")
The Waiting Game (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=TheWaitingGame&sort=0\")


Enjoy -- Mike
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Blanquepage on January 13, 2010, 12:34:54 AM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'234243\' date=\'Jan 12 2010, 10:13 PM\']The Confidence Game (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=ConfidenceGame&sort=0\")



Enjoy -- Mike[/quote]

A million thank yous for posting information on The Confidence Game with Jim MacKrell! As luck would have it, that pilot was one that I was specifically trying to get more information on. Count me as surprised to see yet another unsold Jim Peck pilot with The Waiting Game. Didn't even know there was such a pilot (then again, how many people DID?)

Great stuff as always, Mike!

--Jamie
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Mr. Matté on January 13, 2010, 10:26:06 AM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'234243\' date=\'Jan 12 2010, 10:13 PM\']The Waiting Game (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=TheWaitingGame&sort=0\")[/quote]

Ironically, Fan4Sure was somehow able to be a contestant on this show...
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Twentington on January 13, 2010, 11:36:59 AM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'234243\' date=\'Jan 12 2010, 10:13 PM\']Four more:

ABC Carinval 74 (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=ABCCarinval74&sort=0\")
The Confidence Game (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=ConfidenceGame&sort=0\")
A Question of Scruples (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=QuestionOfScruples&sort=0\")
The Waiting Game (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=TheWaitingGame&sort=0\")


Enjoy -- Mike[/quote]

Good stuff. I especially enjoy your obscure references, like the Donato's Pizza having a home game. Overall, I'm amazed that you can still find all these pilots to dig up and summarize.

Oh, and one last bout of off-topic-ness from me: The Game Show Congress article is back in business!
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Matt Ottinger on January 13, 2010, 04:02:04 PM
Quote
GAME SHOW CONGRESS MOMENT:
August 15th 2004
Matt Ottinger meets Don Howard
Certainly a highlight of my game show fandom.

And well done, Bobby.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Bob Zager on January 13, 2010, 08:38:29 PM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'234243\' date=\'Jan 12 2010, 10:13 PM\']ABC Carinval 74 (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=ABCCarinval74&sort=0\")[/quote]

I remember a few times seeing Tom Kelly subbing for Monty Hall on Let's Make a Deal around the same year this pilot was taped.

I wonder if "The Beautiful Barbara," was Barbara Lyons, who filled in for Carol Merrill on LMAD (I'd only seen one episode like that, on GSN.)
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: calliaume on January 13, 2010, 11:09:16 PM
[quote name=\'Jimmy Fiono Coyne\' post=\'234247\' date=\'Jan 13 2010, 01:34 AM\'][quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'234243\' date=\'Jan 12 2010, 10:13 PM\']The Confidence Game (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=ConfidenceGame&sort=0\")[/quote]

A million thank yous for posting information on The Confidence Game with Jim MacKrell! As luck would have it, that pilot was one that I was specifically trying to get more information on.[/quote]
This helps put some pieces together.  10 years ago, Jim MacKrell was nice enough to take an hour or more of his time to chat with me (he had seen my Celebrity Sweepstakes site and was very definitive the celebrities were not fed the answers in advance).  He noted he knew that Sweepstakes was coming to a close when he was offered this pilot (which, you'll notice, taped the same week Sweepstakes ended).  It was not good news, as he and his wife had just bought a new and larger house under the assumption the show would be running awhile longer.

Next answer:  no, we've lost touch.  Exchanged a few e-mails after that, but I think his wife took ill and he was spending most of his time with her.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Fan4Sure on January 19, 2010, 05:44:16 PM
Hey, mmb5. Are you willing to post "Evesdroppers", Yet?
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: TimK2003 on January 20, 2010, 10:13:33 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'234582\' date=\'Jan 19 2010, 03:44 PM\']Hey, mmb5. Are you willing to post "Evesdroppers", Yet?[/quote]


Why??? What have you heard???
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: rjaguar3 on January 20, 2010, 10:56:59 PM
I should learn by now that posts that seem to be parodying Fan4Sure posts are, in fact, posts by said user, not posts by other users making fun of him.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: TLEberle on January 20, 2010, 11:31:24 PM
[quote name=\'rjaguar3\' post=\'234682\' date=\'Jan 20 2010, 07:56 PM\']I should learn by now that posts that seem to be parodying Fan4Sure posts are, in fact, posts by said user, not posts by other users making fun of him.[/quote]who still hasn't posted any videos to Youtube, by the way.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Loogaroo on January 21, 2010, 08:09:19 AM
I just find it amazing that after Mr. Burger goes to the trouble of updating this site, ostensibly satisfying the list of shows Fan4Sure was itching to read about, that his response isn't "Thank you!" or "Great work!", but "I want this show next."

Mr. 4Sure, there is a word (http://\"http://bit.ly/79yGOo\") to describe you.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Don Howard on January 21, 2010, 09:06:35 AM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'234582\' date=\'Jan 19 2010, 05:44 PM\']Hey, mmb5. Are you willing to post "Evesdroppers", Yet?[/quote]
I can't speak for Mike, but I submit that I'm willing to post pilot information for Fan4Sure Is The Pinata. The members of The Game Show Forum are the contestants, who will NOT be blindfolded. If Mike is willing to host, he is welcome to do so.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Matt Ottinger on January 21, 2010, 09:28:43 AM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'234723\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 09:06 AM\']If Mike is willing to host, he is welcome to do so.[/quote]
Sorry, once again you've overstepped your bounds.  I have an exclusive first-look agreement with Mr. Burger.  We were negotiating an end to the deal when I told him I wouldn't put any of his shows on before midnight (not even Fan4Sure is the Pinata), but it all fell apart over the non-disparagement clause.  I wanted the right to talk bad about him after he was gone.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Don Howard on January 21, 2010, 10:11:36 AM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'234726\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 09:28 AM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'234723\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 09:06 AM\']If Mike is willing to host, he is welcome to do so.[/quote]Sorry, once again you've overstepped your bounds.
[/quote]Not so fast this time, General. I have a handshake arrangement with Jeff Zucker on this project.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: TimK2003 on January 21, 2010, 10:25:56 AM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'234729\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 08:11 AM\'][quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'234726\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 09:28 AM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'234723\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 09:06 AM\']If Mike is willing to host, he is welcome to do so.[/quote]Sorry, once again you've overstepped your bounds.
[/quote]Not so fast this time, General. I have a handshake arrangement with Jeff Zucker on this project.
[/quote]

Just make sure after a few months, you replace Fan4Sure with Jay Leno.  :)
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Don Howard on January 21, 2010, 12:26:47 PM
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'234730\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 10:25 AM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'234729\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 08:11 AM\'][quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'234726\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 09:28 AM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'234723\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 09:06 AM\']If Mike is willing to host, he is welcome to do so.[/quote]Sorry, once again you've overstepped your bounds.
[/quote]Not so fast this time, General. I have a handshake arrangement with Jeff Zucker on this project.
[/quote]Just make sure after a few months, you replace Fan4Sure with Jay Leno.  :)
[/quote]No, no. Jay's safe at 11:35 for two years. Promise.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Matt Ottinger on January 21, 2010, 12:30:50 PM
BTW, just to completely blow whatever might exist of Fan4Sure's mind, I happen to know that Eavesdroppers is one of the pilots that Mike does in fact have access to.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: mmb5 on January 21, 2010, 01:05:42 PM
[font=\"Verdana\"]ĄFan4Sure Is the Pińata!

Producer: Don Howard Productions/Good Productions
Host: Jim McKrell
Announcer: Randy West
Taping Info: January 21, 2010 at WKAR Studio #2 in East Lansing, MI for Telemundo
Other Pilots: Not yet
Made It to Air: Not in the United States, but ĄAficionados seguros es la pińata hoy se presenta para Goya! has been airing on Televisa in Mexico and other Latin American countries since 2002.

As the 2000s progressed, the bottom lines of traditional broadcast networks began to lose ground to both cable and the internet.  Instead of trying to emulate or adapt their success to the broadcast model, the networks instead tried making cheaper fare, hoping to reap the same kind of gross income as they were currently receiving, but improving their net profit because the costs were lower.  One trend in that area was to try bringing in foreign stunt shows and translating them for American audiences.  One attempt was tried by Don Howard in 2010 with a Mexican show, but introducing a special twist.  Jim McKrell is your host.

Unlike the Mexican counterpart, which brought new contestants every day, this version had a singular returning contestant.  Also, instead of traveling to local villages to allow townspeople a crack at whacking the contestant, this version promised a panel of "Whacking Wizards", who would rotate in and out of the "Hitting Heptagon", trying to win prizes for home viewers.  The "Whacking Wizards" on this pilot included game show legend Matt Ottinger, [/font]radio personality T. Jay Dexter and JoAnne Worley.

The prize structure for the game may have been too generous.  On his first hit, Matt Ottinger won $2,500 for his home viewer, and the other panelists quickly followed suit, causing the total amount of prizes given to cross the $2 million mark.  During one of the commercial breaks, the producers replaced the cricket bat with a swimming noodle, which seemed to lessen the bleeding (both monetarily and contestant-wise) somewhat, but the producers could not be happy with the amount of money they were going to lose.

Although an exciting show to watch, it may suffer from the "what can you do next" syndrome.  Although Mel Brooks is right that comedy is tragedy happening to someone else, without some variance, the show will likely get stale fast.  One idea would be to allow the panelists to choose a new pińata.  Other ideas include extra money for hitting the "secret organ", or allow the pińata to earn money for a home viewer by not screaming in agony, much like Make Me Laugh.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Don Howard on January 21, 2010, 01:06:06 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'234745\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 12:30 PM\']BTW, just to completely blow whatever might exist of Fan4Sure's mind, I happen to know that Eavesdroppers is one of the pilots that Mike does in fact have access to.[/quote]Oh, how delicious. I wouldn't want to be in his mother's shoes when she's doing his laundry next load.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: mmb5 on January 21, 2010, 01:08:21 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'234745\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 12:30 PM\']BTW, just to completely blow whatever might exist of Fan4Sure's mind, I happen to know that Eavesdroppers is one of the pilots that Mike does in fact have access to.[/quote]

But to be fair, it's just a bunch of roofing contractors dropping parts off a roof.  It's much more of a show like America's Funniest Home Videos than a true game show.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: clemon79 on January 21, 2010, 02:00:45 PM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'234747\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 10:06 AM\']I wouldn't want to be in his mother's shoes when she's doing his laundry next load.[/quote]
Oh, like she's never cleaned THAT out before...
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Don Howard on January 21, 2010, 02:17:12 PM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'234746\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 01:05 PM\']ĄFan4Sure Is the Pińata![/quote]How marvelous. Looking forward to those fat royalty checks.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Matt Ottinger on January 21, 2010, 02:18:46 PM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'234766\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 02:17 PM\'][quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'234746\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 01:05 PM\']ĄFan4Sure Is the Pińata![/size][/quote]How marvelous. Looking forward to those fat royalty checks.[/quote]
Dammit, all I get is residuals.  Stupid handshake deals.

BTW, it's studio "B", not studio "2".
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: chad1m on January 21, 2010, 02:53:51 PM
Should've been Wayne Cox.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Don Howard on January 21, 2010, 02:55:05 PM
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'234770\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 02:53 PM\']Should've been Wayne Cox.[/quote]Chad and Tammy sittin' in a tree.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: MikeK on January 21, 2010, 04:21:57 PM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'234723\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 09:06 AM\']I can't speak for Mike, but I submit that I'm willing to post pilot information for Fan4Sure Is The Pinata.[/quote]
I call shenanigans.  There is room for only one pinata around here.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Fan4Sure on January 21, 2010, 04:37:38 PM
Actually the pilot was hosted by Tom Kennedy. But it wasn't picked up. Anybody got a gameplay of an unsold pilot of "Evesdroppers"?
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: tpirfan28 on January 21, 2010, 04:58:24 PM
Woosh, wow, facepalm.

/want a videoclip of ĄFan4Sure Is the Pińata!
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Fedya on January 21, 2010, 04:58:49 PM
I'd bet Matt Ottinger has the Eavesdroppers home game.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Matt Ottinger on January 21, 2010, 04:59:46 PM
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'234784\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 04:58 PM\']Woosh, wow, facepalm.[/quote]
Thing is, though, he's right.  He knows about this stuff.  I'm fascinated by someone so clearly clueless and knowledgeable at the same time.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Fedya on January 21, 2010, 05:02:48 PM
Matt Ottinger wrote:
Quote
Dammit, all I get is residuals. Stupid handshake deals.
You mean they never picked up Whistle or Lose It (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=11184&view=findpost&p=128139\")?
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: golden-road on January 21, 2010, 06:07:32 PM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'234746\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 02:05 PM\']Unlike the Mexican counterpart, which brought new contestants every day, this version had a singular returning contestant.  Also, instead of traveling to local villages to allow townspeople a crack at whacking the contestant, this version promised a panel of "Whacking Wizards", who would rotate in and out of the "Hitting Heptagon", trying to win prizes for home viewers.  The "Whacking Wizards" on this pilot included game show legend Matt Ottinger, [/font]radio personality T. Jay Dexter and JoAnne Worley.

Although an exciting show to watch, it may suffer from the "what can you do next" syndrome.  Although Mel Brooks is right that comedy is tragedy happening to someone else, without some variance, the show will likely get stale fast.  One idea would be to allow the panelists to choose a new pińata.  Other ideas include extra money for hitting the "secret organ", or allow the pińata to earn money for a home viewer by not screaming in agony, much like Make Me Laugh.[/quote]

And this right here is why I actually like when Fan4Sure posts, as it becomes fodder for some of the most creative putdowns I've ever read in my life.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: TimK2003 on January 21, 2010, 06:36:02 PM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'234748\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 11:08 AM\']But to be fair, it's just a bunch of roofing contractors dropping parts off a roof.[/quote]

Oh, I thought it was the pilot for the DIY Channel in which a contestant picks one house out of 4 or 5 on a cul-de-sac, and won whatever they found in that house's gutters.  

IIRC, it was in the 3rd pilot that was shot that the contestant took the $250 'safe bet' after being told it was only an "old baseball" that was in the gutter.  It wasn't until after the contestant locked in his choice when they revealed that it was a baseball signed by Micky Mantle, Willie Mays AND Babe Ruth that was valued at over $100K.  

I think the DIY pilot's working title was "Downspout You Go".
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: TimK2003 on January 21, 2010, 06:42:25 PM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'234744\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 10:26 AM\'][quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'234730\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 10:25 AM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'234729\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 08:11 AM\'][quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'234726\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 09:28 AM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'234723\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 09:06 AM\']If Mike is willing to host, he is welcome to do so.[/quote]Sorry, once again you've overstepped your bounds.
[/quote]Not so fast this time, General. I have a handshake arrangement with Jeff Zucker on this project.
[/quote]Just make sure after a few months, you replace Fan4Sure with Jay Leno.  :)
[/quote]No, no. Jay's safe at 11:35 for two years. Promise.
[/quote]

Don, I think you misunderstood.  I didn't mean replace the show with a whole different show hosted by Leno, I meant to say replace the Fan4Sure Pinata with a Jay Leno Pinata (the "weak spot" would be in the chin).  The ratings will soar as viewers will watch Leno bashers lining up for a chance at fabulous cash & prizes.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Strikerz04 on January 21, 2010, 07:07:25 PM
Quote
ĄFan4Sure Is the Pińata!

I call dibs to host the pilot if Fox picks up an English-speaking version.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Joe Mello on January 21, 2010, 07:15:09 PM
Through what letter(s) in the logo will the camera zoom through?  

Hurry up, will ya?  If you don't tell me I'll have to throw my computer out in a rage.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: BrandonFG on January 21, 2010, 07:47:16 PM
[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'234801\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 07:15 PM\']Through what letter(s) in the logo will the camera zoom through?[/quote]
The tilde.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Adam Nedeff on January 21, 2010, 08:15:49 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'234786\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 04:59 PM\']Thing is, though, he's right.  He knows about this stuff.  I'm fascinated by someone so clearly clueless and knowledgeable at the same time.[/quote]
It almost makes you wonder if a career in talk radio is in the cards for him.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: aaron sica on January 21, 2010, 10:12:43 PM
[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'234801\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 07:15 PM\']Hurry up, will ya?  If you don't tell me I'll have to throw my computer out in a rage.[/quote]

Watch out for Karlberg's flying TV...
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Mr. Armadillo on January 22, 2010, 11:09:33 AM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'234782\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 03:37 PM\']Actually the pilot was hosted by Tom Kennedy. But it wasn't picked up. Anybody got a gameplay of an unsold pilot of "Evesdroppers"?[/quote]
Well, it begins with twenty-six models wearing nothing but a fig leaf walking out on stage...
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: MikeK on January 22, 2010, 11:34:59 AM
[quote name=\'Mr. Armadillo\' post=\'234830\' date=\'Jan 22 2010, 11:09 AM\'][quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'234782\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 03:37 PM\']Actually the pilot was hosted by Tom Kennedy. But it wasn't picked up. Anybody got a gameplay of an unsold pilot of "Evesdroppers"?[/quote]
Well, it begins with twenty-six models wearing nothing but a fig leaf walking out on stage...[/quote]
And the dropping part involves those fig leaves mysteriously disappearing?  I'd watch it.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: WhammyPower on January 22, 2010, 12:01:26 PM
[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'234831\' date=\'Jan 22 2010, 10:34 AM\'][quote name=\'Mr. Armadillo\' post=\'234830\' date=\'Jan 22 2010, 11:09 AM\'][quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'234782\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 03:37 PM\']Actually the pilot was hosted by Tom Kennedy. But it wasn't picked up. Anybody got a gameplay of an unsold pilot of "Evesdroppers"?[/quote]
Well, it begins with twenty-six models wearing nothing but a fig leaf walking out on stage...[/quote]
And the dropping part involves those fig leaves mysteriously disappearing?  I'd watch it.
[/quote]Approves (http://\"http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_J5VGni0FulQ/SJjCZSoe-II/AAAAAAAAABM/0qDv_teKwwo/s400/hititBobBarker.jpg\").
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: dale_grass on January 23, 2010, 12:23:39 PM
[quote name=\'WhammyPower\' post=\'234832\' date=\'Jan 22 2010, 01:01 PM\'][quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'234831\' date=\'Jan 22 2010, 10:34 AM\'][quote name=\'Mr. Armadillo\' post=\'234830\' date=\'Jan 22 2010, 11:09 AM\']Well, it begins with twenty-six models wearing nothing but a fig leaf walking out on stage...[/quote]And the dropping part involves those fig leaves mysteriously disappearing?  I'd watch it.[/quote]Approves (http://\"http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_J5VGni0FulQ/SJjCZSoe-II/AAAAAAAAABM/0qDv_teKwwo/s400/hititBobBarker.jpg\").[/quote]
Seconded. (http://\"http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q438/dale_grass/hitthat.jpg\")  (The older the Barker, the creepier the sentiment.)
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Don Howard on January 23, 2010, 04:09:29 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'234782\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 04:37 PM\']Actually the pilot was hosted by Tom Kennedy. But it wasn't picked up. Anybody got a gameplay of an unsold pilot of "Evesdroppers"?[/quote]Chris Lemon, do you still have that screen grab which exclaims, "You win the prize!!"? Thank you.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: clemon79 on January 23, 2010, 05:07:19 PM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'234891\' date=\'Jan 23 2010, 01:09 PM\']Chris Lemon, do you still have that screen grab which exclaims, "You win the prize!!"? Thank you.[/quote]
My pleasure is to serve. (http://\"http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/7726/youwintheprize.jpg\")
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: BrandonFG on January 24, 2010, 04:57:51 AM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'234782\' date=\'Jan 21 2010, 04:37 PM\']Actually the pilot was hosted by Tom Kennedy. But it wasn't picked up. Anybody got a gameplay of an unsold pilot of "Evesdroppers"?[/quote]
It featured three celebrities and a civilian. The episode I saw had guest stars John Ritter and Joyce DeWitt discussing a certain scenario with their civilian contestant. The third celeb, Norman Fell, overhears everything, and must then put 2+2 together based on his misinformation. In this episode, Mr. Rop...I mean Norman, overhears that Joyce the florist was growing a rare plant that he thought was marijuana. It was a laugh riot!
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Fan4Sure on January 25, 2010, 04:05:01 PM
It also has three civilian contestants, Where they score points.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Matt Ottinger on January 25, 2010, 05:09:55 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'234939\' date=\'Jan 25 2010, 04:05 PM\']It also has three civilian contestants, Where they score points.[/quote]
OMG, he's trying!
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Sodboy13 on January 25, 2010, 05:29:54 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'234942\' date=\'Jan 25 2010, 04:09 PM\']OMG, he's trying![/quote]

Very.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: clemon79 on January 25, 2010, 05:34:13 PM
[quote name=\'Sodboy13\' post=\'234944\' date=\'Jan 25 2010, 02:29 PM\'][quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'234942\' date=\'Jan 25 2010, 04:09 PM\']OMG, he's trying![/quote]
Very.[/quote]
Your freshly-won Intarnets, let me show it to you.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Fan4Sure on January 26, 2010, 08:03:17 PM
It was hosted by Tom Kennedy, And it was produced by Wink Martindale Enterprises through Access Syndication.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: WarioBarker on January 27, 2010, 09:08:11 PM
Getting back to something resembling a legit discussion on the topic, Brian Aronson (who introduced a 1978 Fleming Jeopardy! episode to the world) told me that he tried out for the unsold 1979 pilot Pandemonium (http://web.archive.org/web/20031217095729/http://www.mikeklauss.com/whew/PandemoniumRodeo.html), hosted by Steve Edwards.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: dazztardly on January 28, 2010, 07:46:02 PM
I have a correction for Run for the Money...

According to a former Grundy staffer, it was not shot in the UK. It was filmed in Los Angeles. This pilot is what ultimately launched "Going For Gold" in the UK and "Question Pour Un Champion" out in France.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Fan4Sure on February 13, 2010, 09:16:59 PM
Hey, Mike. Can you post more game show pilots on your web site, Please?
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: clemon79 on February 13, 2010, 10:22:04 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'235856\' date=\'Feb 13 2010, 06:16 PM\']Hey, Mike. Can you post more game show pilots on your web site, Please?[/quote]
YES WANT MOAR GET TO WORK SLACKER
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: J.R. on February 13, 2010, 10:26:42 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'235856\' date=\'Feb 13 2010, 08:16 PM\']Hey, Mike. Can you post more game show pilots on your web site, Please?[/quote]
Shut up. (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtr2rmR3PK4#t=1m57s\")
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: TimK2003 on February 15, 2010, 09:57:36 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'235856\' date=\'Feb 13 2010, 07:16 PM\']Hey, Mike. Can you post more game show pilots on your web site, Please?[/quote]


Most game show hosts were not pilots, so pretty much what is now on the site are all the hosts who flew planes...

/Please drive up to the second window for your total...Thank you.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: BrandonFG on February 15, 2010, 10:13:27 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'235861\' date=\'Feb 13 2010, 10:22 PM\'][quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'235856\' date=\'Feb 13 2010, 06:16 PM\']Hey, Mike. Can you post more game show pilots on your web site, Please?[/quote]
YES WANT MOAR GET TO WORK SLACKER
[/quote]
At least he learned how to say "Please".
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: TLEberle on February 15, 2010, 10:55:27 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'235962\' date=\'Feb 15 2010, 07:13 PM\']At least he learned how to say "Please".[/quote]And yet, still no videos.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: rjaguar3 on February 16, 2010, 01:30:03 AM
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'235970\' date=\'Feb 15 2010, 09:55 PM\'][quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'235962\' date=\'Feb 15 2010, 07:13 PM\']At least he learned how to say "Please".[/quote]And yet, still no videos.
[/quote]

When I asked him when he'd be posting videos, he replied "Sir, I don't time to argue with you, I;m getting a little stressed right now, So lave me alone!" [sic]

Source:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3YgVcKsWHA (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3YgVcKsWHA\")
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: TLEberle on February 16, 2010, 01:41:24 AM
[quote name=\'rjaguar3\' post=\'235977\' date=\'Feb 15 2010, 10:30 PM\']When I asked him when he'd be posting videos, he replied "Sir, I don't time to argue with you, I;m getting a little stressed right now, So lave me alone!" [sic]

Source:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3YgVcKsWHA (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3YgVcKsWHA\")[/quote]Of course he doesn't have time to argue with you, he's pestering people to post pages about pilots.

/will be traveling to Vancouver on Wednesday by train, not plane
//see what I did there?
///I encourage everyone to post about the game show where contestants would try to land a Boeing 747 without stuffing it up.
////Winner gets a pair of plastic wings and a packet of honey roasted peanuts.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Joe Mello on February 16, 2010, 10:44:33 AM
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'235978\' date=\'Feb 16 2010, 01:41 AM\']///I encourage everyone to post about the game show where contestants would try to land a Boeing 747 without stuffing it up.[/quote]
I hear Robert Hays was a celebrity for that one.  Alas, it never got off the ground.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on February 16, 2010, 11:11:34 AM
[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'235862\' date=\'Feb 13 2010, 10:26 PM\'][quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'235856\' date=\'Feb 13 2010, 08:16 PM\']Hey, Mike. Can you post more game show pilots on your web site, Please?[/quote]
Shut up. (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtr2rmR3PK4#t=1m57s\")[/quote]What ever happened to that Penn Gilette graphic with him mouthing STFU?
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: BrandonFG on February 16, 2010, 11:39:19 AM
[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'235990\' date=\'Feb 16 2010, 11:11 AM\'][quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'235862\' date=\'Feb 13 2010, 10:26 PM\'][quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'235856\' date=\'Feb 13 2010, 08:16 PM\']Hey, Mike. Can you post more game show pilots on your web site, Please?[/quote]
Shut up. (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtr2rmR3PK4#t=1m57s\")[/quote]What ever happened to that Penn Gilette graphic with him mouthing STFU?
[/quote]
Right here. (http://\"http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitter_production/profile_images/117015214/pennSTFU_normal.gif\")
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Fan4Sure on March 13, 2010, 09:39:37 PM
Has any one got "Puzzlers", an unsold game show pilot with Pat Sajak, Yet?
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on March 14, 2010, 11:12:24 AM
Yeah, I've got puzzlers for you, right here. (http://\"http://www.toyarchive.com/STAForSale/NEW2001+/Gobots/MOSC/PuzzlerBoxed2a.jpg\")
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on March 14, 2010, 11:40:46 AM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'237534\' date=\'Mar 13 2010, 10:39 PM\']Has any one got "Puzzlers", an unsold game show pilot with Pat Sajak, Yet?[/quote]
I'm curious...is there a reason you feel the need to capitalize the word "yet" and set it off from the rest of the sentence with a comma when you conclude a thought with it?

/I use the term "thought" loosely.
//It's also not the only thing about this guy I'm curious about, but I figure I'm even less likely to get an answer about any of the others.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Fan4Sure on March 14, 2010, 01:53:23 PM
No, An unsold pilot with Then-"Wheel Of Fortune" Pat Sajak as a host!
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: BrandonFG on March 14, 2010, 03:49:36 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'237534\' date=\'Mar 13 2010, 10:39 PM\']Has any one got "Puzzlers", an unsold game show pilot with Pat Sajak, Yet?[/quote]
You know, there's a way to look for this stuff yourself, instead of pestering everyone else and demanding that Mike updates his page. But since you think everyone else is obligated to give in to your demands, there's a post on Puzzlers.  (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=8389&view=findpost&p=90987\") There's some good info from those two posts to shut you up for a second.

Oh look, I even found a pic! (http://\"http://steveryangames.com/Television/television%20photos.htm\") It's near the end of the page, on the right hand side.

You're welcome.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Lirodon on March 14, 2010, 03:53:08 PM
Malcom needs a review. Seriously.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: MikeK on March 14, 2010, 05:46:43 PM
[quote name=\'Lirodon\' post=\'237554\' date=\'Mar 14 2010, 03:53 PM\']Malcom needs a review. Seriously.[/quote]
You.  I like the cut of your jib.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: chrisholland03 on March 14, 2010, 09:52:08 PM
Malcolm's in the middle of a review...
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Fan4Sure on June 28, 2010, 04:16:00 PM
Rats! Still no updates at this time.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: TLEberle on June 28, 2010, 11:54:04 PM
That's right! You haven't uploaded any video updates.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on June 29, 2010, 03:05:52 AM
This just goes to prove yet again that every time I think to myself, "Gee, such-and-such fruitcake hasn't posted in a really long time," said fruitcake inevitably shows up within the next two days.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: clemon79 on June 29, 2010, 04:23:47 AM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'243222\' date=\'Jun 28 2010, 01:16 PM\']Rats! Still no updates at this time.[/quote]
*sigh* (http://\"http://trollcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/son_i_am_disappoint_trollcat.jpg\")
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: mmb5 on June 29, 2010, 09:02:47 AM
Updates?  You want updates?  Fine.


I hope that is sufficient.


--Mike
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Fan4Sure on June 29, 2010, 12:30:17 PM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'243272\' date=\'Jun 29 2010, 09:02 AM\']Updates?  You want updates?  Fine.


I hope that is sufficient.


--Mike[/quote]





They're not game show pilot additions. They're a list of jokes. May I see some updates on The Game Show Pilot Light, Please?
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: chrisholland03 on June 29, 2010, 01:19:30 PM
Which reminds me...I still have some fruitcake in the fridge...
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: BrandonFG on June 29, 2010, 02:47:01 PM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'243272\' date=\'Jun 29 2010, 09:02 AM\']I hope that is sufficient.[/quote]
No!1 How dare you have a life!!1 Get back to that server and give me updates on The Letter Machine post haste!!!1!
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Joe Mello on June 29, 2010, 02:52:21 PM
I will just (try to) politely point out that the page for Going, Going, Gone (http://\"http://www.usgameshows.net/x.php?show=GoingGoingGone&sort=0\") is mistitled.  Fix at your own leisure.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on June 29, 2010, 08:20:12 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'243280\' date=\'Jun 29 2010, 12:30 PM\']They're not game show pilot additions. They're a list of jokes. May I see some updates on The Game Show Pilot Light, Please?[/quote]
Holy good Lord are you dense.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Jimmy Owen on June 29, 2010, 08:24:05 PM
If Fan4Sure is autistic, he may not be aware he's doing anything wrong.  If he isn't, well then he's having a fine old time being annoying.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: BrandonFG on June 29, 2010, 08:26:03 PM
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'243311\' date=\'Jun 29 2010, 08:24 PM\']If Fan4Sure is autistic, he may not be aware he's doing anything wrong.[/quote]
Yes, but he has been told on a number of occasions to stop pestering Mike for updates. Now, Mike posts his valid reasons about how has a life, and this twit still has the nerve to be a dick about it. Not cool.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Allstar87 on June 29, 2010, 08:36:46 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'243280\' date=\'Jun 29 2010, 12:30 PM\']They're not game show pilot additions. They're a list of jokes. May I see some updates on The Game Show Pilot Light, Please?[/quote]

Those are very valid reasons for not updating, and you consider them "jokes"? Good grief.

Just because you have no life doesn't mean you should pester others for having one.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: TLEberle on June 29, 2010, 08:56:32 PM
[quote name=\'Allstar87\' post=\'243313\' date=\'Jun 29 2010, 05:36 PM\']Those are very valid reasons for not updating, and you consider them "jokes"? Good grief.[/quote]It is possible that Fan4Sure is referring to the pictures of airplane pilots, and not to the list of what Mr. Burger has been up to that precludes him from updating a for-free website.

[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'243311\' date=\'Jun 29 2010, 05:24 PM\']If Fan4Sure is autistic, he may not be aware he's doing anything wrong.[/quote]Too bad. I don't care about any conditions, or predilections or behaviors. I've managed to go this long without being a dink when asking someone to update their website. If I can do it, anyone can.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: mmb5 on June 29, 2010, 08:58:48 PM
And sadder, this is one of the rare times I was not joking.  I may have been a little sarcastic, but life is life.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Fan4Sure on June 29, 2010, 09:18:50 PM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'243315\' date=\'Jun 29 2010, 08:58 PM\']And sadder, this is one of the rare times I was not joking.  I may have been a little sarcastic, but life is life.[/quote]


Ah, I see that. But Is there reason to add a page of "Trivial Pursuit" and others soon?
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: tpirfan28 on June 29, 2010, 09:23:42 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'243320\' date=\'Jun 29 2010, 09:18 PM\']Ah, I see that. But Is there reason to add a page of "Trivial Pursuit" and others soon?[/quote]
I am utterly speechless.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: NickS on June 29, 2010, 10:29:51 PM
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'243314\' date=\'Jun 29 2010, 07:56 PM\']Too bad. I don't care about any conditions, or predilections or behaviors. I've managed to go this long without being a dink when asking someone to update their website. If I can do it, anyone can.[/quote]

Wow.  For someone who has a custom of "crusader for the little guy," you sure contradicted yourself there, didn't you?
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Twentington on June 29, 2010, 10:30:09 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'243280\' date=\'Jun 29 2010, 12:30 PM\']They're not game show pilot additions. They're a list of jokes. May I see some updates on The Game Show Pilot Light, Please?[/quote]

[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'243320\' date=\'Jun 29 2010, 09:18 PM\']Ah, I see that. But Is there reason to add a page of "Trivial Pursuit" and others soon?[/quote]

And the award for "person who clearly doesn't get it and never will" goes to...
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: TLEberle on June 29, 2010, 10:38:17 PM
[quote name=\'TeppanYaki\' post=\'243334\' date=\'Jun 29 2010, 07:29 PM\']Wow.  For someone who has a custom of "crusader for the little guy," you sure contradicted yourself there, didn't you?[/quote]I don't think so at all. I don't like picking on people who don't deserve it. I believe everyone ought to have some time to get a feel for the board without being run out of town on a rail.

How many free spins does Fan4Sure get, then?
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on June 29, 2010, 10:39:23 PM
[quote name=\'TeppanYaki\' post=\'243334\' date=\'Jun 29 2010, 10:29 PM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'243314\' date=\'Jun 29 2010, 07:56 PM\']Too bad. I don't care about any conditions, or predilections or behaviors. I've managed to go this long without being a dink when asking someone to update their website. If I can do it, anyone can.[/quote]Wow.  For someone who has a custom of "crusader for the little guy," you sure contradicted yourself there, didn't you?[/quote]
There's a fine line between "little guy" and "annoying dumbass who everyone wishes would shut up."  Fan4Sure is several miles on the wrong side of it.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Jimmy Owen on June 29, 2010, 10:44:54 PM
Somebody like Fan4Sure doesn't care about others feelings, wants, wishes or desires.  There is no point to belittle him.  He wants pilots, plain and simple.  His posts are here for our amusement, but if he's not autistic, maybe the joke's on us.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: J.R. on June 29, 2010, 10:53:27 PM
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'243338\' date=\'Jun 29 2010, 09:39 PM\']"annoying dumbass who everyone wishes would shut up."[/quote]
You're being far too kind on F4S.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: NickS on June 29, 2010, 11:14:26 PM
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'243337\' date=\'Jun 29 2010, 09:38 PM\'][quote name=\'TeppanYaki\' post=\'243334\' date=\'Jun 29 2010, 07:29 PM\']Wow.  For someone who has a custom of "crusader for the little guy," you sure contradicted yourself there, didn't you?[/quote]I don't think so at all. I don't like picking on people who don't deserve it. I believe everyone ought to have some time to get a feel for the board without being run out of town on a rail.

How many free spins does Fan4Sure get, then?
[/quote]

Fair enough point; fair question in return, though - how many passes did you give Mr. Benfield?  Not condoning what F4S' done but I agree with Jimmy's take.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: TLEberle on June 29, 2010, 11:21:24 PM
[quote name=\'TeppanYaki\' post=\'243345\' date=\'Jun 29 2010, 08:14 PM\']Fair enough point; fair question in return, though - how many passes did you give Mr. Benfield?  Not condoning what F4S' done but I agree with Jimmy's take.[/quote]I don't know. This wasn't the first place I had encountered him, though.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: dale_grass on June 29, 2010, 11:35:03 PM
I get the reading that F4S and the guy who translated Zero Wing are of the same ilk.  Consider:

Ah, I see that. But Is there reason to add a page of "Trivial Pursuit" and others soon?

     vs.

Somebody set up us the bomb.  We get signal.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Matt Ottinger on June 29, 2010, 11:43:15 PM
All your pilots are belong to us.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: TLEberle on June 29, 2010, 11:45:55 PM
I need to find a really good picture of my dad next to his Air Force plane.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: TimK2003 on June 30, 2010, 12:45:33 AM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'243272\' date=\'Jun 29 2010, 07:02 AM\']Updates?  You want updates?  Fine.


I hope that is sufficient.[/quote]

Don't forget to sort the sock drawer, defrost the refrigerator, and rewind the cassette tapes...
...those priority should have updates over!!!
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: chrisholland03 on June 30, 2010, 08:51:47 AM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'243348\' date=\'Jun 29 2010, 10:43 PM\']All your pilots are belong to us.[/quote]

Time to snuff out the Pilot Light?

LOL
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Ian Wallis on June 30, 2010, 12:11:06 PM
Quote
Don't forget to sort the sock drawer, defrost the refrigerator, and rewind the cassette tapes...
...those priority should have updates over!!!

It's a good thing the Stanley Cup playoffs are over!
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: mmb5 on August 16, 2010, 11:23:54 PM
Six new ones (thank you long plane ride):
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: DrBear on August 17, 2010, 09:50:19 AM
More Pilots. (http://\"http://seattlepilots.com/\")
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: DoorNumberFour on August 17, 2010, 11:18:09 AM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'246026\' date=\'Aug 16 2010, 11:23 PM\']Six new ones (thank you long plane ride):
[/quote]
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Your site always makes for fascinating, entertaining reading. Excellent work.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: MikeK on August 17, 2010, 11:32:29 AM
[quote name=\'DrBear\' post=\'246048\' date=\'Aug 17 2010, 09:50 AM\']More Pilots. (http://\"http://seattlepilots.com/\")[/quote]
At least those Pilots lasted one season, which is longer than at least 80% of the stuff on Mike's page.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: mmb5 on August 17, 2010, 01:53:35 PM
[quote name=\'DrBear\' post=\'246048\' date=\'Aug 17 2010, 09:50 AM\']More Pilots. (http://\"http://seattlepilots.com/\")[/quote]
Unnecessary Fact: The answer of "Sicks Stadium" (the Pilots home) was the final and victorious answer for my team in a two-day trivia tournament I played in a few years ago.  They will always have a place in my heart.


--Mike
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: clemon79 on August 17, 2010, 02:11:34 PM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'246056\' date=\'Aug 17 2010, 10:53 AM\']Unnecessary Fact: The answer of "Sicks Stadium" (the Pilots home) was the final and victorious answer for my team in a two-day trivia tournament I played in a few years ago.  They will always have a place in my heart.[/quote]
More Unnecessary Fact: The site of Sicks Stadium is now a Lowe's. But it's marked up to show where the bases and the pitchers mount were. Nice touch.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on August 17, 2010, 02:57:29 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'246058\' date=\'Aug 17 2010, 01:11 PM\'][quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'246056\' date=\'Aug 17 2010, 10:53 AM\']Unnecessary Fact: The answer of "Sicks Stadium" (the Pilots home) was the final and victorious answer for my team in a two-day trivia tournament I played in a few years ago.  They will always have a place in my heart.[/quote]
More Unnecessary Fact: The site of Sicks Stadium is now a Lowe's. But it's marked up to show where the bases and the pitchers mount were. Nice touch.[/quote]The Mall of America did something similar when they took over the old downtown stadium--home plate remains, as does one lone chair where a notable home run was hit.  You get a nice close view of said chair while on the roller coaster.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: TLEberle on August 18, 2010, 01:48:18 AM
"For $1,024,000; name the inaugural breakfast meals of the six most recent presidents. You have 30 seconds to think about it. Good luck."

I can't imagine that lasting terribly long if it got to series.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: BrandonFG on August 19, 2010, 01:07:50 PM
With the $64K Question, you mention a contestant who bombed out at the $64K level. Did they "go home" with the $8,000 from the qualifying round, or a lower amount?

If the former, that reeks to CS01 levels, in which the $2,100 won in the maingame was carried over to the Money Cards, but on three separate levels. Therefore, if you bust on the MC, then tough cookies pal (Pearson's words, not mine).
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: mmb5 on August 19, 2010, 08:59:48 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'246123\' date=\'Aug 19 2010, 01:07 PM\']With the $64K Question, you mention a contestant who bombed out at the $64K level. Did they "go home" with the $8,000 from the qualifying round, or a lower amount?

If the former, that reeks to CS01 levels, in which the $2,100 won in the maingame was carried over to the Money Cards, but on three separate levels. Therefore, if you bust on the MC, then tough cookies pal (Pearson's words, not mine).[/quote]
I believe the $8K carried, but I can't remember for sure.


--Mike
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Fan4Sure on September 12, 2010, 01:04:12 PM
Anybody know about "Fun For The Money"?
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: chrisholland03 on September 13, 2010, 01:37:07 PM
I'm always looking for a cheap date...the most bang for the buck.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Mr. Armadillo on September 13, 2010, 02:11:07 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247341\' date=\'Sep 12 2010, 12:04 PM\']Anybody know about "Fun For The Money"?[/quote]
No, but considering this forum is free, this thread usually delivers a fairly high fun quotient for my money.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: BrandonFG on September 13, 2010, 04:01:32 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247341\' date=\'Sep 12 2010, 01:04 PM\']Anybody know about "Fun For The Money"?[/quote]
Wait for it...wait for it. Okay now. (http://\"http://www.hollow-hill.com/sabina/images/aw-jeez.jpg\")
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on September 13, 2010, 04:20:01 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247341\' date=\'Sep 12 2010, 12:04 PM\']Anybody know about "Fun For The Money"?[/quote]I heard a guy named Fan4Sure was a contestant.  He won $0 and no parting gifts.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: parliboy on September 14, 2010, 12:22:32 AM
[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'247421\' date=\'Sep 13 2010, 03:20 PM\']I heard a guy named Fan4Sure was a contestant.  He won $0 and no parting gifts.[/quote]
Not even Lots of Love?
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Fan4Sure on September 14, 2010, 04:08:44 PM
[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'247421\' date=\'Sep 13 2010, 04:20 PM\'][quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247341\' date=\'Sep 12 2010, 12:04 PM\']Anybody know about "Fun For The Money"?[/quote]I heard a guy named Fan4Sure was a contestant.  He won $0 and no parting gifts.
[/quote]


What? Me? I guess you're joking. Right?
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Don Howard on September 14, 2010, 05:25:58 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247541\' date=\'Sep 14 2010, 04:08 PM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'247421\' date=\'Sep 13 2010, 04:20 PM\'][quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247341\' date=\'Sep 12 2010, 12:04 PM\']Anybody know about "Fun For The Money"?[/quote]I heard a guy named Fan4Sure was a contestant.  He won $0 and no parting gifts.[/quote]What? Me? I guess you're joking. Right?[/quote]Nope. Not joking at all. It wasn't the Bob Hilton-hosted pilot but the short-lived series for GSAS Productions hosted by Travis Schario and announced by me. After the taping, he and I and the models were in the hot tub and had a hearty laugh about your dreadful performance.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: uncleplinko on September 14, 2010, 06:48:23 PM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'247553\' date=\'Sep 14 2010, 05:25 PM\'][quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247541\' date=\'Sep 14 2010, 04:08 PM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'247421\' date=\'Sep 13 2010, 04:20 PM\'][quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247341\' date=\'Sep 12 2010, 12:04 PM\']Anybody know about "Fun For The Money"?[/quote]I heard a guy named Fan4Sure was a contestant.  He won $0 and no parting gifts.[/quote]What? Me? I guess you're joking. Right?[/quote]Nope. Not joking at all. It wasn't the Bob Hilton-hosted pilot but the short-lived series for GSAS Productions hosted by Travis Schario and announced by me. After the taping, he and I and the models were in the hot tub and had a hearty laugh about your dreadful performance.
[/quote]

Ah, what an evening.  I still have the Polaroids.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Adam Nedeff on September 15, 2010, 03:58:56 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247541\' date=\'Sep 14 2010, 04:08 PM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'247421\' date=\'Sep 13 2010, 04:20 PM\'][quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247341\' date=\'Sep 12 2010, 12:04 PM\']Anybody know about "Fun For The Money"?[/quote]I heard a guy named Fan4Sure was a contestant.  He won $0 and no parting gifts.
[/quote]


What? Me? I guess you're joking. Right?
[/quote]
Yeah, seriously, you don't remember? It's all over the trading circuit. Maybe you should ask people on YouTube to post more videos. I'm sure somebody there has it.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: golden-road on September 15, 2010, 05:54:31 PM
[quote name=\'parliboy\' post=\'247481\' date=\'Sep 14 2010, 12:22 AM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'247421\' date=\'Sep 13 2010, 03:20 PM\']I heard a guy named Fan4Sure was a contestant.  He won $0 and no parting gifts.[/quote]
Not even Lots of Love?
[/quote]

Only to himself ;)
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Fan4Sure on September 15, 2010, 06:56:31 PM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'247553\' date=\'Sep 14 2010, 05:25 PM\'][quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247541\' date=\'Sep 14 2010, 04:08 PM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'247421\' date=\'Sep 13 2010, 04:20 PM\'][quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247341\' date=\'Sep 12 2010, 12:04 PM\']Anybody know about "Fun For The Money"?[/quote]I heard a guy named Fan4Sure was a contestant.  He won $0 and no parting gifts.[/quote]What? Me? I guess you're joking. Right?[/quote]Nope. Not joking at all. It wasn't the Bob Hilton-hosted pilot but the short-lived series for GSAS Productions hosted by Travis Schario and announced by me. After the taping, he and I and the models were in the hot tub and had a hearty laugh about your dreadful performance.
[/quote]


Actually, The clip was posted on YouTube it was Bob Hiton.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Don Howard on September 15, 2010, 11:55:01 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247649\' date=\'Sep 15 2010, 06:56 PM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'247553\' date=\'Sep 14 2010, 05:25 PM\'][quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247541\' date=\'Sep 14 2010, 04:08 PM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'247421\' date=\'Sep 13 2010, 04:20 PM\'][quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247341\' date=\'Sep 12 2010, 12:04 PM\']Anybody know about "Fun For The Money"?[/quote]I heard a guy named Fan4Sure was a contestant.  He won $0 and no parting gifts.[/quote]What? Me? I guess you're joking. Right?[/quote]Nope. Not joking at all. It wasn't the Bob Hilton-hosted pilot but the short-lived series for GSAS Productions hosted by Travis Schario and announced by me. After the taping, he and I and the models were in the hot tub and had a hearty laugh about your dreadful performance.
[/quote]Actually, The clip was posted on YouTube it was Bob Hilton.[/quote]Not of our show it wasn't. Yes, your sad gameplay will never be forgotten, bub. As I recall, you lost badly to someone named Iris.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Steve_Bier on September 16, 2010, 12:24:57 AM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'247683\' date=\'Sep 15 2010, 11:55 PM\']As I recall, you lost badly to someone named Iris.[/quote]

He lost so badly, he didn't even get a lousy copy of the home game....
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: vtown7 on September 16, 2010, 07:43:54 AM
[quote name=\'Steve_Bier\' post=\'247686\' date=\'Sep 15 2010, 11:24 PM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'247683\' date=\'Sep 15 2010, 11:55 PM\']As I recall, you lost badly to someone named Iris.[/quote]

He lost so badly, he didn't even get a lousy copy of the home game....
[/quote]

I suppose that means he doesn't get to come back tomorrow...
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Jimmy Owen on September 16, 2010, 07:57:15 AM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247649\' date=\'Sep 15 2010, 06:56 PM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'247553\' date=\'Sep 14 2010, 05:25 PM\'][quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247541\' date=\'Sep 14 2010, 04:08 PM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'247421\' date=\'Sep 13 2010, 04:20 PM\'][quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247341\' date=\'Sep 12 2010, 12:04 PM\']Anybody know about "Fun For The Money"?[/quote]I heard a guy named Fan4Sure was a contestant.  He won $0 and no parting gifts.[/quote]What? Me? I guess you're joking. Right?[/quote]Nope. Not joking at all. It wasn't the Bob Hilton-hosted pilot but the short-lived series for GSAS Productions hosted by Travis Schario and announced by me. After the taping, he and I and the models were in the hot tub and had a hearty laugh about your dreadful performance.
[/quote]


Actually, The clip was posted on YouTube it was Bob Hiton.
[/quote]
Fan4Sure, can you please put up that clip of you on "Fun For The Money."  Today, please.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Mr. Armadillo on September 16, 2010, 09:37:28 AM
[quote name=\'vtown7\' post=\'247708\' date=\'Sep 16 2010, 06:43 AM\'][quote name=\'Steve_Bier\' post=\'247686\' date=\'Sep 15 2010, 11:24 PM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'247683\' date=\'Sep 15 2010, 11:55 PM\']As I recall, you lost badly to someone named Iris.[/quote]

He lost so badly, he didn't even get a lousy copy of the home game....
[/quote]

I suppose that means he doesn't get to come back tomorrow...
[/quote]
Please tell me we won't be seeing him next weekend on The Price is Right...
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Fan4Sure on September 16, 2010, 04:28:28 PM
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'247709\' date=\'Sep 16 2010, 07:57 AM\'][quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247649\' date=\'Sep 15 2010, 06:56 PM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'247553\' date=\'Sep 14 2010, 05:25 PM\'][quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247541\' date=\'Sep 14 2010, 04:08 PM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'247421\' date=\'Sep 13 2010, 04:20 PM\'][quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247341\' date=\'Sep 12 2010, 12:04 PM\']Anybody know about "Fun For The Money"?[/quote]I heard a guy named Fan4Sure was a contestant.  He won $0 and no parting gifts.[/quote]What? Me? I guess you're joking. Right?[/quote]Nope. Not joking at all. It wasn't the Bob Hilton-hosted pilot but the short-lived series for GSAS Productions hosted by Travis Schario and announced by me. After the taping, he and I and the models were in the hot tub and had a hearty laugh about your dreadful performance.
[/quote]


Actually, The clip was posted on YouTube it was Bob Hiton.
[/quote]
Fan4Sure, can you please put up that clip of you on "Fun For The Money."  Today, please.
[/quote]


That's all ready on YouTube!
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Allstar87 on September 16, 2010, 09:40:08 PM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247737\' date=\'Sep 16 2010, 04:28 PM\']That's all ready on YouTube![/quote]

No, silly! We want to see YOUR appearance on Fun for the Money!

And get to it. You're still at 0 videos!
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Strikerz04 on September 17, 2010, 01:51:51 AM
[quote name=\'Steve_Bier\' post=\'247686\' date=\'Sep 15 2010, 11:24 PM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'247683\' date=\'Sep 15 2010, 11:55 PM\']As I recall, you lost badly to someone named Iris.[/quote]

He lost so badly, he didn't even get a lousy copy of the home game....
[/quote]

On the show, the parting gift was a swift kick in the head. The show saw amazing ratings thereafter.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: urbanpreppie05 on September 17, 2010, 09:20:27 AM
[quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247737\' date=\'Sep 16 2010, 04:28 PM\'][quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'247709\' date=\'Sep 16 2010, 07:57 AM\'][quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247649\' date=\'Sep 15 2010, 06:56 PM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'247553\' date=\'Sep 14 2010, 05:25 PM\'][quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247541\' date=\'Sep 14 2010, 04:08 PM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'247421\' date=\'Sep 13 2010, 04:20 PM\'][quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247341\' date=\'Sep 12 2010, 12:04 PM\']Anybody know about "Fun For The Money"?[/quote]I heard a guy named Fan4Sure was a contestant.  He won $0 and no parting gifts.[/quote]What? Me? I guess you're joking. Right?[/quote]Nope. Not joking at all. It wasn't the Bob Hilton-hosted pilot but the short-lived series for GSAS Productions hosted by Travis Schario and announced by me. After the taping, he and I and the models were in the hot tub and had a hearty laugh about your dreadful performance.
[/quote]


Actually, The clip was posted on YouTube it was Bob Hiton.
[/quote]
Fan4Sure, can you please put up that clip of you on "Fun For The Money."  Today, please.
[/quote]


That's all ready on YouTube!
[/quote]

Alright, the madness must stop.

Stop asking for particular pilots to be posted on this and any other page. People either a, have lives, b, don't have them, or c, don't have the time. They will post these pilots when they feel like it. Continually asking for more is being rude and demanding, and makes you look stupid.
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: Fan4Sure on September 17, 2010, 01:25:47 PM
[quote name=\'Allstar87\' post=\'247752\' date=\'Sep 16 2010, 09:40 PM\'][quote name=\'Fan4Sure\' post=\'247737\' date=\'Sep 16 2010, 04:28 PM\']That's all ready on YouTube![/quote]

No, silly! We want to see YOUR appearance on Fun for the Money!

And get to it. You're still at 0 videos!
[/quote]


I didn't appeared in that pilot! It was the one on the clip with the unicycler Dan Ryzerz!
Title: Pilot Light Relaunch #3
Post by: BrandonFG on September 17, 2010, 06:35:24 PM
[quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' post=\'247760\' date=\'Sep 17 2010, 09:20 AM\']Stop asking for particular pilots to be posted on this and any other page. People either a, have lives, b, don't have them, or c, don't have the time. They will post these pilots when they feel like it. Continually asking for more is being rude and demanding, and makes you look stupid.[/quote]
We've tried that route, to no avail. He only responds by asking if we know anything about {insert obscure 1986 pilot}. But I agree with your comment 100%, it is beyond rude and inconsiderate.