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Title: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on October 26, 2009, 04:23:57 PM
Does the unaired episode "Auld Lang Gone" circulate among collectors? Also, which season was it intended for?
Title: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: Allstar87 on October 26, 2009, 06:13:30 PM
[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'229245\' date=\'Oct 26 2009, 04:23 PM\']Does the unaired episode "Auld Lang Gone" circulate among collectors? Also, which season was it intended for?[/quote]

It doesn't seem to circulate; though there are many people with impressive Carmen Sandiego collections, I have yet to meet someone who has Auld Lang Gone.

It was intended for season 2.
Title: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: Kevin Prather on October 26, 2009, 06:16:17 PM
Assuming this indeed never aired, I'd be surprised if anybody had it, unless someone who actually worked for WGBH or whoever managed to sneak a copy.
Title: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: dazztardly on October 26, 2009, 08:28:00 PM
Auld Lang Gone? What was it about?
Title: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: Kevin Prather on October 26, 2009, 08:41:11 PM
The New Year's Eve ball was stolen. The big deal about the episode is 1) Marc Summers guest hosted, and 2) the winner broke her arm during the bonus round, and had to be replaced.
Title: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: JasonA1 on October 26, 2009, 09:40:54 PM
Where does this information come from? As far as I can tell, this message board thread (http://\"http://vileheadquarters.dreamhosters.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=859&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=\") seems to be the source, and I can't help but think "fan fiction." I'll be more than happy to be corrected, though.

-Jason
Title: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: dazztardly on October 26, 2009, 09:49:05 PM
I have to agree with Jason. The episode sounds bogus.
Title: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: rjaguar3 on October 26, 2009, 10:07:09 PM
I hate to be the one that spread this possible misinformation to the forums.

Tomorrow, I plan to verify whether the episode exists from WGBH and WQED, as far as is possible.
Title: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: Matt Ottinger on October 26, 2009, 10:09:40 PM
[quote name=\'dazztardly\' post=\'229262\' date=\'Oct 26 2009, 09:49 PM\']I have to agree with Jason. The episode sounds bogus.[/quote]
I went to the page, and it's remarkably elaborate, but remarkably bad fan fiction.  A lot of fans on the site were buying it, though, and hanging on every word.
Title: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: tvwxman on October 26, 2009, 11:41:43 PM
i have seen video where Marc hosts questions....but the arm breaking? pass.
Title: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: TLEberle on October 27, 2009, 12:03:28 AM
The whole thing just makes my head whang. If the contestant was eligible however many years ago, wouldn't he be able to write coherently by now, fifteen years later?

And who decided that round two would be dubbed The Jailtime Challenge? I surely don't remember it referred to as such on the air, but all the wikipedians who infest the show's page insist that It Is So.
Title: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: Sonic Whammy on October 27, 2009, 12:18:47 AM
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'229273\' date=\'Oct 27 2009, 12:03 AM\']And who decided that round two would be dubbed The Jailtime Challenge? I surely don't remember it referred to as such on the air, but all the wikipedians who infest the show's page insist that It Is So.[/quote]
I don't think they EVER gave it a name, actually. But considering the end result of winning the round, sounds like as viable a name for the round as any.

And... yeah... I never saw anyone even trip and fall during the bonus round. So for such a fall so spectacular that the person lands JUST right to break their arm... forget it.

I'm interested to see those Marc Summers clips, though.
Title: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: TLEberle on October 27, 2009, 12:34:11 AM
[quote name=\'Sonic Whammy\' post=\'229274\' date=\'Oct 26 2009, 09:18 PM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'229273\' date=\'Oct 27 2009, 12:03 AM\']And who decided that round two would be dubbed The Jailtime Challenge? I surely don't remember it referred to as such on the air, but all the wikipedians who infest the show's page insist that It Is So.[/quote]I don't think they EVER gave it a name, actually. But considering the end result of winning the round, sounds like as viable a name for the round as any.[/quote]Sure; if you want to give it an unofficial name like that, I have no beef. But the 'Pedians were representing as if Jailtime Challenge was the actual name of the round. I edit'd the article (at the very least, it could stand to be half or a quarter as long) and removed that. It was promptly returned.

I invoked the Cartman Clause, and that was the last time I ever edited anything on Wikipedia.
Title: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: aaron sica on October 27, 2009, 01:26:46 AM
[quote name=\'Sonic Whammy\' post=\'229274\' date=\'Oct 27 2009, 12:18 AM\']And... yeah... I never saw anyone even trip and fall during the bonus round. So for such a fall so spectacular that the person lands JUST right to break their arm... forget it.[/quote]

I do recall an episode where a child tripped and fell during the bonus round but was perfectly fine. Hopefully I'm not the only one who remembers this.
Title: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: Bill Neuweiler on October 27, 2009, 10:49:31 AM
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' post=\'229284\' date=\'Oct 27 2009, 01:26 AM\'][quote name=\'Sonic Whammy\' post=\'229274\' date=\'Oct 27 2009, 12:18 AM\']And... yeah... I never saw anyone even trip and fall during the bonus round. So for such a fall so spectacular that the person lands JUST right to break their arm... forget it.[/quote]

I do recall an episode where a child tripped and fell during the bonus round but was perfectly fine. Hopefully I'm not the only one who remembers this.
[/quote]

I think he was doing the map of the states and made a diving shot at the last answer but missed by a second or so.   It was really close.
Title: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: ChuckNet on October 28, 2009, 05:53:44 PM
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' post=\'229284\' date=\'Oct 27 2009, 01:26 AM\'][quote name=\'Sonic Whammy\' post=\'229274\' date=\'Oct 27 2009, 12:18 AM\']And... yeah... I never saw anyone even trip and fall during the bonus round. So for such a fall so spectacular that the person lands JUST right to break their arm... forget it.[/quote]

I do recall an episode where a child tripped and fell during the bonus round but was perfectly fine. Hopefully I'm not the only one who remembers this.
[/quote]

No you're not...I distinctly recall a contestant on the Asia map who brought the marker down a little too hard and not only took a fall, but actually succeeded in knocking off the top of the marker!

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
Title: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: Bill Neuweiler on October 29, 2009, 12:02:13 AM
[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' post=\'229371\' date=\'Oct 28 2009, 05:53 PM\'][quote name=\'aaron sica\' post=\'229284\' date=\'Oct 27 2009, 01:26 AM\'][quote name=\'Sonic Whammy\' post=\'229274\' date=\'Oct 27 2009, 12:18 AM\']And... yeah... I never saw anyone even trip and fall during the bonus round. So for such a fall so spectacular that the person lands JUST right to break their arm... forget it.[/quote]

I do recall an episode where a child tripped and fell during the bonus round but was perfectly fine. Hopefully I'm not the only one who remembers this.
[/quote]

No you're not...I distinctly recall a contestant on the Asia map who brought the marker down a little too hard and not only took a fall, but actually succeeded in knocking off the top of the marker!

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
[/quote]

or it could've been asia too!  'twas a long time ago....
Title: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: rjaguar3 on November 10, 2009, 12:00:21 PM
This e-mail came from WGBH today:

Quote
Thank you for your interest in WGBH. We always appreciate hearing from our viewers, listeners, and Web site visitors.

This particular episode never aired because the final contestant was injured during the taping. The Where in the World series was produced jointly by GBH and WQED in Pittsburgh. The WGBH Archives department is certain that they don’t have it in their files. WQED has quite a bit of this material but it is only partially cataloged. In the end, we would tend to believe that it exists and that if it does, it would probably be located at WQED. Unfortunately, we don’t have a contact person there to point you to, but here is the contact information:

Please contact:
WQED
4802 FIFTH AVENUE
PITTSBURGH, PA 15213
Phone: 412-622-1300
Email: WWW.WQED.ORG

We hope you continue to enjoy the terrific children's programs produced by WGBH like Arthur, Postcards from Buster, Between the Lions, Peep and the Big Wide World, Fetch! with Ruff Ruffman, Design Squad, and Curious George. Find out about all these great shows online at pbskids.org!

Please consider supporting the excellent children's programming produced by WGBH by calling us at 617-300-3300 (M-F, 9-5) - or at 800-492-1111 at other times - or pledging online at http://www.wgbh.org/pledge (http://\"http://www.wgbh.org/pledge\"). Visit wgbh.org for information about WGBH programs and services and to sign up for our free weekly e-newsletter, @gbh, which includes reminders of upcoming programs on WGBH 2, 44, 89.7, information on your favorite PBS sites, answers to your questions, and the latest WGBH news.

Sincerely,
WGBH Member Development and Services

EDIT:  My opinion is that there may actually be some truth to GameShowNetwork's claims, but it's not certain.  Also, special thanks to the people at WGBH for taking the time to investigate this.  I will be contacting WQED for more information.
Title: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: Jimmy Owen on November 10, 2009, 12:34:49 PM
Twenty years from now GSF members will be speaking fondly of "Fetch! with Ruff Ruffman," and wondering "Why didn't anybody record those?"
Title: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: chrisholland03 on November 10, 2009, 09:31:03 PM
Bawwwwww...Ruff is so cute :)

LOL
Title: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: Darion Blackwood Daniel on November 13, 2009, 02:40:46 PM
[quote name=\'chrisholland03\' post=\'230343\' date=\'Nov 10 2009, 08:31 PM\']Bawwwwww...Ruff is so cute :)

LOL[/quote]Oh, he sure is, but that is a whole other show.  

On the other hand, Carmen Sandiego had potential if they kept the format under control.
Title: Re: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: DoorNumberFour on August 23, 2020, 09:57:23 PM
Bumping an 11-year-old topic...

In my spare time for the past few weeks, and with the assistance of many people involved with the show's production, editing, and subsequent archival, I've been researching the existence of Auld Lang Gone. I'm happy to now be able to begin sharing the story of my endeavor. This is part one.

http://buzzerblog.com/2020/08/23/gone-but-not-forgotten-exploring-the-myth-of-the-lost-carmen-sandiego-part-1
Title: Re: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: TLEberle on August 23, 2020, 10:12:13 PM
Most of the time bumping a d3cade old topic would be cause for derision.

This is not one of those times.
Title: Re: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: PYLdude on August 24, 2020, 12:57:33 AM
I am intrigued. I must see how this played out.
Title: Re: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: Bobby B. on August 24, 2020, 12:24:55 PM
I am intrigued as well.  I’ve always figured that the arm-breaking incident did occur, but that all the details about it online were all the products of someone’s imagination.  I can’t wait to read part 2.
Title: Re: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: Mr. Matté on August 24, 2020, 12:29:38 PM
The old posts in this thread piqued my interest in seeing what the edits to the Wikipedia article were. Having viewed that and then having seen that a lot of the players from 2009 are still editing game show articles today, it reminds me why I stick to only editing road/highway articles.
Title: Re: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: DoorNumberFour on August 25, 2020, 02:46:35 PM
Part 2 is live.

http://buzzerblog.com/2020/08/25/the-loot-the-warrant-exploring-the-myth-of-the-lost-carmen-sandiego-part-2/
Title: Re: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: Loogaroo on August 25, 2020, 02:57:29 PM
Hiding this behind spoiler text because people should read the whole thing, but did anyone else internalize the sucker-punch Christian most certainly felt when they said they actually only had the Where in Time episode?
Title: Re: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: dazztardly on August 27, 2020, 05:31:29 PM
http://buzzerblog.com/2020/08/27/hope-that-answers-your-question-exploring-the-myth-of-the-lost-carmen-sandiego-part-3/

After reading this whole 3-part saga, the letter from WGBH which was posted here 10-years ago is nothing really but a load of bullcrap.

-Dan
Title: Re: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego question
Post by: rjaguar3 on August 28, 2020, 08:50:33 PM
http://buzzerblog.com/2020/08/27/hope-that-answers-your-question-exploring-the-myth-of-the-lost-carmen-sandiego-part-3/

After reading this whole 3-part saga, the letter from WGBH which was posted here 10-years ago is nothing really but a load of bullcrap.

-Dan

I can assure you the email is real; the sender must have been misinformed (as the article series illustrates).