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Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Don Howard on April 11, 2009, 10:51:58 AM
Since I don't get to see The Price Is Right very often, I'll ask you all.
The last few times I've hit and skipped on TPiR, I've seen a tieless Drew Carey with unkept hair.
Has this been his regular wardrobe and hair style of choice for a good while?
Whatever happened to that jolly fellow with the crew cut and suit and tie we fell for?
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Millionaire81 on April 11, 2009, 12:11:08 PM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'212685\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 09:51 AM\']
Whatever happened to that jolly fellow with the crew cut and suit and tie we fell for?
[/quote]


He was overanalyzed and ripped to pieces by uber-fans.  This is his replacement.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Jimmy Owen on April 11, 2009, 12:18:21 PM
That's what happens when you go to a wedding reception prior to taping.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: DJDustman on April 11, 2009, 12:25:15 PM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'212685\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 10:51 AM\']
Since I don't get to see The Price Is Right very often, I'll ask you all.
The last few times I've hit and skipped on TPiR, I've seen a tieless Drew Carey with unkept hair.
Has this been his regular wardrobe and hair style of choice for a good while?
Whatever happened to that jolly fellow with the crew cut and suit and tie we fell for?
[/quote]

It's 50/50, he'll have a tie one day, and no tie the next. This is has been going since DiPirro took over?
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Clay Zambo on April 11, 2009, 12:39:36 PM
I haven't been watching regularly enough to notice a pattern; I was thinking it was some sort of TPiR "Casual Friday."  I just wish he'd lose the ridiculous soul patch.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Chief-O on April 11, 2009, 01:06:19 PM
I can't speak for the unkempt hair part of things, but I've definitely noticed the more modern glasses [as opposed to his trademark round-ish frames] and the soul patch. Perhaps he's trying to redefine himself; trying to shed the image of "Drew Carey the comedian" and taking on the image of "Drew Carey the game show host".

/but the comedian part of him still comes through on air
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: clemon79 on April 11, 2009, 02:44:04 PM
[quote name=\'Millionaire81\' post=\'212694\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 09:11 AM\']
He was overanalyzed and ripped to pieces by uber-fans.  This is his replacement.[/quote]
You. I like you.

I haven't seen TPiR in a looooong time (but now y'all have me curious), but I know when he's been up here for Sounders FC games, he's very much in his non-TV-star mode: no glasses, no crewcut.

(I'm goin' to the game today, and I plan to get there as early as the Sharks and Bruins will let me. Who knows, maybe I'll see 'im.)
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: TroubadourNando on April 11, 2009, 08:07:12 PM
[quote name=\'Millionaire81\' post=\'212694\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 12:11 PM\']
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'212685\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 09:51 AM\']
Whatever happened to that jolly fellow with the crew cut and suit and tie we fell for?
[/quote]


He was overanalyzed and ripped to pieces by uber-fans.  This is his replacement.
[/quote]

I'm glad to know that's what you call asking for decent hosting (which, ironically enough, began happening more often once he lost the usual glasses)
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: PYLdude on April 11, 2009, 08:37:19 PM
[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'212746\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 07:07 PM\']
[quote name=\'Millionaire81\' post=\'212694\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 12:11 PM\']
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'212685\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 09:51 AM\']
Whatever happened to that jolly fellow with the crew cut and suit and tie we fell for?
[/quote]


He was overanalyzed and ripped to pieces by uber-fans.  This is his replacement.
[/quote]

I'm glad to know that's what you call asking for decent hosting (which, ironically enough, began happening more often once he lost the usual glasses)
[/quote]

What? He's kinda right, considering certain fans' reactions...
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: chad1m on April 11, 2009, 08:49:51 PM
[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'212746\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 08:07 PM\']I'm glad to know that's what you call asking for decent hosting (which, ironically enough, began happening more often once he lost the usual glasses)[/quote]"Nando", may I ask what game show hosts you do like?
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: CarShark on April 11, 2009, 09:58:34 PM
I mean...we can't even discuss Drew having a tie now? Really? To me, it's just him transitioning from Drew Carey: Fictional Character to Drew Carey: How He Really Is, running parallel to the show becoming more casual and party-like.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on April 11, 2009, 10:07:12 PM
I don't get why there's even a debate about this.  As long as Drew hosts the show decently (which he is about half the time lately), who cares whether or not he's got a tie on?
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: PYLdude on April 11, 2009, 10:14:19 PM
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'212755\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 09:07 PM\']
I don't get why there's even a debate about this.  As long as Drew hosts the show decently (which he is about half the time lately), who cares whether or not he's got a tie on?
[/quote]

I think the OP was being sarcastic, honestly.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: pentellit on April 11, 2009, 10:31:43 PM
Hi, I’ve been a member here for awhile but this is my first posting.  I am looking for a safe place to;  Like this new Price, like Drew (and his non-traditional wardrobe!), be glad that Barker-Roger-Bart got booted, and be able to post so without some fanbois getting hysterical.  g-r.net is alot of Drew bashing, bash changes, bitterness now.

I like this new Price, I like Drew, people who work the show are happy for the first time in ages, Drew is finding his rhythm and I think the April Fools show was the best Price in a decade. Is it ok to say that here?
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: PYLdude on April 11, 2009, 10:37:54 PM
[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'212759\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 09:31 PM\']
Hi, I’ve been a member here for awhile but this is my first posting.  I am looking for a safe place to;  Like this new Price, like Drew (and his non-traditional wardrobe!), be glad that Barker-Roger-Bart got booted, and be able to post so without some fanbois getting hysterical.  g-r.net is alot of Drew bashing, bash changes, bitterness now.

I like this new Price, I like Drew, people who work the show are happy for the first time in ages, Drew is finding his rhythm and I think the April Fools show was the best Price in a decade. Is it ok to say that here?
[/quote]

Let's put it this way...it won't get you banned here.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Matt Ottinger on April 11, 2009, 10:40:11 PM
[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'212759\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 10:31 PM\']
Hi, I’ve been a member here for awhile but this is my first posting.  I am looking for a safe place to;  Like this new Price, like Drew (and his non-traditional wardrobe!), be glad that Barker-Roger-Bart got booted, and be able to post so without some fanbois getting hysterical.  g-r.net is alot of Drew bashing, bash changes, bitterness now.[/quote]
I'll tell you right now, you'll have a lot easier time posting your comments if you can avoid bashing other forums.  Clearly, if you've been here for awhile, you know that the whole Drew thing is a sensitive topic, but yes, you're probably not as outnumbered here as you would be there.  Still, at least try not to make it personal.  Newcomers' posts are filtered, and not everything you say will automatically get through.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: BrandonFG on April 11, 2009, 10:40:56 PM
[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'212759\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 10:31 PM\']
Is it ok to say that here?
[/quote]
It's perfectly normal. I don't frequent g-r enough to base a comparison, but you're not required to agree with everyone here...although if you make an unpopular opinion (i.e. Drew hosts circles around Barker), you might get ragged on a bit. ;-)

Seriously, it's a pretty fun and open environment, even with the sometimes heated debates.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: pentellit on April 11, 2009, 10:46:08 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'212763\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 07:40 PM\']
I'll tell you right now, you'll have a lot easier time posting your comments if you can avoid bashing other forums.[/quote]
Should I modify my original post?  Can I?
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: chad1m on April 11, 2009, 10:49:25 PM
[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'212765\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 10:46 PM\']Should I modify my original post?  Can I?[/quote]You can by clicking the "edit" button, but it'll look silly now that it has been pointed out what you did, not to mention the original is quoted by Matt O.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Matt Ottinger on April 11, 2009, 10:50:58 PM
[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'212765\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 10:46 PM\']
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'212763\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 07:40 PM\']
I'll tell you right now, you'll have a lot easier time posting your comments if you can avoid bashing other forums.[/quote]
Should I modify my original post?  Can I?[/quote]
Anyone can edit their own posts, but I don't think that's absolutely necessary here, especially since others have already quoted you, and your editing won't change those.  Still, it sounds like you understand my point, and that's all I need to hear.  Carry on, and hopefully you'll enjoy your time with us!
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: pentellit on April 11, 2009, 10:53:57 PM
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'212766\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 07:49 PM\']
[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'212765\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 10:46 PM\']Should I modify my original post?  Can I?[/quote]You can by clicking the "edit" button, but it'll look silly now that it has been pointed out what you did, not to mention the original is quoted by Matt O.
[/quote]
Ok then, Thanks!
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: TroubadourNando on April 11, 2009, 11:14:35 PM
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'212749\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 08:49 PM\']
[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'212746\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 08:07 PM\']I'm glad to know that's what you call asking for decent hosting (which, ironically enough, began happening more often once he lost the usual glasses)[/quote]"Nando", may I ask what game show hosts you do like?
[/quote]

I realize I'm probably walking into a very obvious trap, but I'll answer you anyway:

Gene Rayburn
Ray Combs
Bill Cullen
Geoff Edwards
Tom Kennedy
Marc Summers
Regis Philbin
Garry Moore
Chuck Woolery
John O'Hurley
Peter Tomarken

....to name a few. I'm on the fence with a number of others, namely Ross Shafer, Alex Trebek, and surprisingly enough, Drew Carey.

I just don't like what I've been seeing a lot of lately, and what I'm seeing is the attitude that there's no middle ground: either you love Drew and everything that's happened this season, or you're a "fanboi" who "craps himself" on the "sight of Bob Barker." It's friggin ridiculous.

EDIT: Forgot to put Monty Hall and Dick Clark on that list.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: NickS on April 11, 2009, 11:19:25 PM
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'212755\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 09:07 PM\']
I don't get why there's even a debate about this.  As long as Drew hosts the show decently (which he is about half the time lately), who cares whether or not he's got a tie on?
[/quote]

Now Steve, hold on here:

A) It is different to see Drew with the longer hair/casual dress.  I actually don't mind it at all; I think for all the changes he might as well make his own identity.  Compared to the PR pic that still has him from his first real season, if he's loosening up the hope is that it'll make for a better show.

B) You're coming from a board that dissects minutae of the show and asking why we're talking about Drew loosening up?  C'mon.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: TroubadourNando on April 11, 2009, 11:25:44 PM
[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'212759\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 10:31 PM\']
people who work the show are happy for the first time in ages
[/quote]

I only just noticed this, otherwise I'd have stuck it in my other post.

Are you absolutely sure about that? I've been given the exact opposite impression - it's pretty clear to me that a lot of people are fearful for their employment right now. Hardly qualifies as "happy." (Unless, of course, you're talking about the fact that the models get named on air again)
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on April 11, 2009, 11:34:22 PM
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'212760\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 10:37 PM\'][quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'212759\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 09:31 PM\']Hi, I’ve been a member here for awhile but this is my first posting.  I am looking for a safe place to;  Like this new Price, like Drew (and his non-traditional wardrobe!), be glad that Barker-Roger-Bart got booted, and be able to post so without some fanbois getting hysterical.  g-r.net is alot of Drew bashing, bash changes, bitterness now.

I like this new Price, I like Drew, people who work the show are happy for the first time in ages, Drew is finding his rhythm and I think the April Fools show was the best Price in a decade. Is it ok to say that here?[/quote]Let's put it this way...it won't get you banned here.[/quote]
And unless something's changed in the past week, it hasn't gotten her banned from Golden-Road, either.

Oh, and should we also be glad that, off the top of my head, Jeff Thisted, Sharon O'Daniel, and Dana Zlotky got booted?  They've all been fired in the last few months for no apparent reason -- not something that strikes me as characteristic of a work environment in which people are "happy for the first time in ages."

[quote name=\'TeppanYaki\' post=\'212773\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 11:19 PM\']B) You're coming from a board that dissects minutae of the show and asking why we're talking about Drew loosening up?  C'mon.[/quote]
I've said over there that I think it's goofy, too.  There's a lot more important things to worry about on the show this year -- how many games are still in the rotation, who the next person to get fired is going to be, whether or not Drew is going to act like he gives a damn about the whole thing when I turn on the next episode -- than whether or not the host has a piece of silk draped in front of his shirt.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: PYLdude on April 11, 2009, 11:34:57 PM
[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'212776\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 10:25 PM\']
[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'212759\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 10:31 PM\']
people who work the show are happy for the first time in ages
[/quote]

I only just noticed this, otherwise I'd have stuck it in my other post.

Are you absolutely sure about that? I've been given the exact opposite impression - it's pretty clear to me that a lot of people are fearful for their employment right now. Hardly qualifies as "happy." (Unless, of course, you're talking about the fact that the models get named on air again)
[/quote]

I'd sure like to know where you got that from considering that most of the news coming out of TPIR (from my hearings) is that Drew doesn't treat the employees as shabbily as Barker did.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: pentellit on April 11, 2009, 11:40:13 PM
[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'212776\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 08:25 PM\']
[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'212759\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 10:31 PM\']
people who work the show are happy for the first time in ages
[/quote]

I only just noticed this, otherwise I'd have stuck it in my other post.

Are you absolutely sure about that? I've been given the exact opposite impression - it's pretty clear to me that a lot of people are fearful for their employment right now. Hardly qualifies as "happy." (Unless, of course, you're talking about the fact that the models get named on air again)
[/quote]
Hi TNando, yes you're right that there are some staffers who are fearful for their jobs, with reason.  But staffers know the reason Barker-Roger-Bart were booted, and those staffers who have no reason to fear are cautiously enjoying working on Price now.  The crew is just plain happy because they really like Drew and the new "let's have some fun on this show" atmosphere on the set.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: TroubadourNando on April 11, 2009, 11:40:34 PM
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'212780\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 11:34 PM\']

I'd sure like to know where you got that from considering that most of the news coming out of TPIR (from my hearings) is that Drew doesn't treat the employees as shabbily as Barker did.
[/quote]

You have to take that thought very carefully around the guy who made the initial comment about people being 'happy.' It IS true that Drew probably isn't doing the things Bob did, however, to that person, that's a substitute for 'happy' - notice all the vitrol being thrown at GR.net over the Dobkowitz debacle? Go look on GSN and you'll see this guy doing the exact same thing over the firings of a couple models over the past 15 years.

The source I've gotten this from is someone with connections to CBS who is familiar with the situation at the show; he was the first to report at least two firings as I recall (Jeff Thisted and Bart Eskander) and has said at least twice that there is an environment of fear in the staff over who will be terminated next.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Millionaire81 on April 11, 2009, 11:42:32 PM
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'212780\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 10:34 PM\']
I'd sure like to know where you got that from considering that most of the news coming out of TPIR (from my hearings) is that Drew doesn't treat the employees as shabbily as Barker did.
[/quote]

As usual, the mysterious "unnamed sources."
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: NickS on April 11, 2009, 11:45:13 PM
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'212779\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 10:34 PM\']I've said over there that I think it's goofy, too.  There's a lot more important things to worry about on the show this year -- how many games are still in the rotation, who the next person to get fired is going to be, whether or not Drew is going to act like he gives a damn about the whole thing when I turn on the next episode -- than whether or not the host has a piece of silk draped in front of his shirt.
[/quote]

What I'm saying, though, Steve, is that how you dress in your workplace *can* make a difference in morale and how you come off.  Might be good, might be bad but it still makes a difference.

I mean, don't you think that there's a logical correlation that if Drew feels more comfortable, his hosting skills are better off?

Sarcasm or not intended in the OP, it's a completely valid discussion IMO.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: PYLdude on April 11, 2009, 11:47:01 PM
[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'212782\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 10:40 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'212780\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 11:34 PM\']

I'd sure like to know where you got that from considering that most of the news coming out of TPIR (from my hearings) is that Drew doesn't treat the employees as shabbily as Barker did.
[/quote]

You have to take that thought very carefully around the guy who made the initial comment about people being 'happy.' It IS true that Drew probably isn't doing the things Bob did, however, to that person, that's a substitute for 'happy' - notice all the vitrol being thrown at GR.net over the Dobkowitz debacle? Go look on GSN and you'll see this guy doing the exact same thing over the firings of a couple models over the past 15 years.

The source I've gotten this from is someone with connections to CBS who is familiar with the situation at the show; he was the first to report at least two firings as I recall (Jeff Thisted and Bart Eskander) and has said at least twice that there is an environment of fear in the staff over who will be terminated next.
[/quote]

But last I checked Drew is not the executive producer of the show and therefore has no say in who's hired or fired...
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: NickS on April 11, 2009, 11:54:08 PM
[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'212782\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 10:40 PM\']
there is an environment of fear in the staff over who will be terminated next.
[/quote]

Tell me where that doesn't happen in today's economy.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Millionaire81 on April 12, 2009, 12:02:52 AM
[quote name=\'TeppanYaki\' post=\'212786\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 10:54 PM\']
[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'212782\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 10:40 PM\']
there is an environment of fear in the staff over who will be terminated next.
[/quote]

Tell me where that doesn't happen in today's economy.
[/quote]

That's true.  We don't even know why these people were canned.  It was just assumed because of Drew not perhaps a bad economy and no one does anything to stop the conversation and say "Hey, we don't know for sure that's why they were let go."  No the dissemination of misinformation is allowed because it fits the "agenda."
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on April 12, 2009, 12:12:39 AM
[quote name=\'Millionaire81\' post=\'212783\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 11:42 PM\'][quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'212780\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 10:34 PM\']I'd sure like to know where you got that from considering that most of the news coming out of TPIR (from my hearings) is that Drew doesn't treat the employees as shabbily as Barker did.[/quote]As usual, the mysterious "unnamed sources."[/quote]
Actually, they were posted on the G-R forums by a CBS staffer in Television City and someone who works in Fremantle's offices -- not that you're in a position to know that.

[quote name=\'TeppanYaki\' post=\'212784\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 11:45 PM\']I mean, don't you think that there's a logical correlation that if Drew feels more comfortable, his hosting skills are better off?[/quote]
That's a good point.  I noticed, too, that the first three sets of shows with Rich DiPirro directing were some of the best episodes Drew's ever done, which makes me wonder if that had anything to do with why he got rid of Bart Eskander.  (As I've said before, Bart's was the one firing this year that deserved to happen.)

[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'212785\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 11:47 PM\']But last I checked Drew is not the executive producer of the show and therefore has no say in who's hired or fired...[/quote]
Drew has every bit as much power at that show as Bob Barker did.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: PYLdude on April 12, 2009, 12:18:11 AM
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'212789\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 11:12 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'212785\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 11:47 PM\']But last I checked Drew is not the executive producer of the show and therefore has no say in who's hired or fired...[/quote]
Drew has every bit as much power at that show as Bob Barker did.
[/quote]

Do you have any named sources that can back up that statement?
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: chad1m on April 12, 2009, 12:19:41 AM
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'212789\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 12:12 AM\']not that you're in a position to know that.[/quote]I really cannot be the only one who is tired of seeing the oft-low-key "Heyyy, look at me, I say I've got Price contacts and you don't!" flaunting.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on April 12, 2009, 12:21:41 AM
[quote name=\'Millionaire81\' post=\'212787\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 12:02 AM\']That's true.  We don't even know why these people were canned.  It was just assumed because of Drew not perhaps a bad economy[/quote]
Well, that certainly isn't why Dana was fired -- she was replaced by two new people.  And it's been stated flat-out that "Drew fired the director," and it's not really his job to worry about the budget.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on April 12, 2009, 12:29:24 AM
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'212792\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 12:18 AM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'212789\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 11:12 PM\']Drew has every bit as much power at that show as Bob Barker did.[/quote]Do you have any named sources that can back up that statement?[/quote]
I would certainly think the Fremantle employee who came onto G-R and posted, "Drew fired the director," qualifies, even though I don't know what his or her actual name is.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on April 12, 2009, 12:44:13 AM
[quote name=\'Millionaire81\' post=\'212802\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 12:41 AM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'212801\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 11:39 PM\'][quote name=\'Millionaire81\' post=\'212800\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 12:36 AM\']You aren't the only one with sources my friend.  If you only knew what the Price production thought of you.[/quote]And what, pray tell, do they think?[/quote]I couldn't possibly compromise my sources.[/quote]
Fair enough.  You'll forgive me, though, if I don't believe you any more than PYLdude believes me.

(Interestingly, though, if you are telling the truth, you've just proven that Price's staff is more interested in what G-R thinks than you are.)

EDIT:  Come to think of it, I've spent most of the past year ridiculing various idiotic things Price's staff has done.  You don't exactly need connections there to figure out that any of them who've bothered to look at who I am probably aren't crazy about me.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Millionaire81 on April 12, 2009, 12:56:14 AM
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'212803\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 11:44 PM\']
[quote name=\'Millionaire81\' post=\'212802\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 12:41 AM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'212801\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 11:39 PM\'][quote name=\'Millionaire81\' post=\'212800\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 12:36 AM\']You aren't the only one with sources my friend.  If you only knew what the Price production thought of you.[/quote]And what, pray tell, do they think?[/quote]I couldn't possibly compromise my sources.[/quote]
Fair enough.  You'll forgive me, though, if I don't believe you any more than PYLdude believes me.

(Interestingly, though, if you are telling the truth, you've just proven that Price's staff is more interested in what G-R thinks than you are.)
[/quote]

Trust me.  I know you're not an idiot because you do put some well devised arguments together at times, but you can't deny the fact they don't care what you think.  In many cases they've done the exact opposite of your site's suggestions demands.  Again, trust me, they aren't listening.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: PYLdude on April 12, 2009, 12:56:58 AM
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'212798\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 11:29 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'212792\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 12:18 AM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'212789\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 11:12 PM\']Drew has every bit as much power at that show as Bob Barker did.[/quote]Do you have any named sources that can back up that statement?[/quote]
I would certainly think the Fremantle employee who came onto G-R and posted, "Drew fired the director," qualifies, even though I don't know what his or her actual name is.
[/quote]

In other words, no. Thank you, all I needed to know.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on April 12, 2009, 12:59:34 AM
[quote name=\'Millionaire81\' post=\'212806\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 12:56 AM\']Trust me.  I know you're not an idiot because you do put some well devised arguments together at times, but you can't deny the fact they don't care what you think.  In many cases they've done the exact opposite of your site's suggestions demands.  Again, trust me, they aren't listening.[/quote]
Actually, there've been several times this year where we've complained about things, and a month or two down the road, they did change them.  So I'm more inclined to believe that yeah, they are listening.

[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'212807\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 12:56 AM\']In other words, no. Thank you, all I needed to know.[/quote]
I've got to know -- what is it that causes you to automatically decide that anything I try to tell you isn't true?
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: PYLdude on April 12, 2009, 01:15:19 AM
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'212809\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 11:59 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'212807\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 12:56 AM\']In other words, no. Thank you, all I needed to know.[/quote]
I've got to know -- what is it that causes you to automatically decide that anything I try to tell you isn't true?
[/quote]

Your bias against me and your unwilligness to answer my questions, for two.

Steve, if your information was true then you shouldn't have any problem telling me who gave it to you. You cite these sources at Fremantle...I doubt they're sworn to secrecy.

(Sorry, Joe. Really.)
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on April 12, 2009, 01:18:09 AM
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'212815\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 01:15 AM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'212809\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 11:59 PM\']I've got to know -- what is it that causes you to automatically decide that anything I try to tell you isn't true?[/quote]Your bias against me and your unwilligness to answer my questions, for two.[/quote]
So in other words, nothing that's got anything to do with whether or not I'm right.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: PYLdude on April 12, 2009, 01:20:19 AM
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'212816\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 12:18 AM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'212815\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 01:15 AM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'212809\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 11:59 PM\']I've got to know -- what is it that causes you to automatically decide that anything I try to tell you isn't true?[/quote]Your bias against me and your unwilligness to answer my questions, for two.[/quote]
So in other words, nothing that's got anything to do with whether or not I'm right.
[/quote]

If you're not gonna answer a simple question without a runaround, it tells me that your information is wrong.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on April 12, 2009, 01:25:24 AM
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'212817\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 01:20 AM\']If you're not gonna answer a simple question without a runaround, it tells me that your information is wrong.[/quote]
Or that I could get people fired if I tried to explain it -- as I've tried to explain to you a number of times, and still with no success.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: PYLdude on April 12, 2009, 01:27:17 AM
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'212819\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 12:25 AM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'212817\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 01:20 AM\']If you're not gonna answer a simple question without a runaround, it tells me that your information is wrong.[/quote]
Or that I could get people fired if I tried to explain it -- as I've tried to explain to you a number of times, and still with no success.
[/quote]

Well, if there's such a problem, why do you even bother relaying said information in the first place?
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on April 12, 2009, 01:29:29 AM
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'212821\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 01:27 AM\']Well, if there's such a problem, why do you even bother relaying said information in the first place?[/quote]
Because I would prefer not to have people spreading information that isn't true.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: PYLdude on April 12, 2009, 01:32:35 AM
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'212822\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 12:29 AM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'212821\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 01:27 AM\']Well, if there's such a problem, why do you even bother relaying said information in the first place?[/quote]
Because I would prefer not to have people spreading information that isn't true.
[/quote]

Yet no one can verify your stories because of your unwillingness to reveal your sources.

Either say who you got the info from or don't bother posting it. You're not doing yourself or your source any favors.

Chances are you're probably gonna get said source fired no matter what you do.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on April 12, 2009, 01:37:25 AM
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'212823\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 01:32 AM\']Yet no one can verify your stories because of your unwillingness to reveal your sources.

Either say who you got the info from or don't bother posting it. You're not doing yourself or your source any favors.[/quote]
Dude, it doesn't matter who I got the info from -- it's already been stated publicly that Drew can and does fire people.  The fact that you don't want to believe that either isn't really my problem.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: PYLdude on April 12, 2009, 01:39:25 AM
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'212824\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 12:37 AM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'212823\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 01:32 AM\']Yet no one can verify your stories because of your unwillingness to reveal your sources.

Either say who you got the info from or don't bother posting it. You're not doing yourself or your source any favors.[/quote]
Dude, it doesn't matter who I got the info from -- it's already been stated publicly that Drew can and does fire people.  The fact that you don't want to believe that either isn't really my problem.
[/quote]

And when said information comes in without a source, according to you I'm instantly supposed to give it credence. Okay.

You keep on giving out information without revealing your source. I'll just file it as being full of blankety blank and we'll all move on, deal?
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on April 12, 2009, 01:45:59 AM
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'212825\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 01:39 AM\']You keep on giving out information without revealing your source. I'll just file it as being full of blankety blank and we'll all move on, deal?[/quote]
You must have an absolute ball watching the news.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: pentellit on April 12, 2009, 01:46:59 AM
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'212824\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 10:37 PM\']
 -- it's already been stated publicly that Drew can and does fire people. [/quote]
Hi, where was that stated publicly and by whom?
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: PYLdude on April 12, 2009, 01:50:56 AM
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'212826\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 12:45 AM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'212825\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 01:39 AM\']You keep on giving out information without revealing your source. I'll just file it as being full of blankety blank and we'll all move on, deal?[/quote]
You must have an absolute ball watching the news.
[/quote]

The difference is most of the stuff on the news can be verified.

[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'212827\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 12:46 AM\']
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'212824\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 10:37 PM\']
 -- it's already been stated publicly that Drew can and does fire people. [/quote]
Hi, where was that stated publicly and by whom?
[/quote]

Steve's "source." And if Steve's "sources" say it, even though no one can verify, it MUST be true!
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on April 12, 2009, 01:52:36 AM
[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'212827\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 01:46 AM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'212824\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 10:37 PM\'] -- it's already been stated publicly that Drew can and does fire people. [/quote]Hi, where was that stated publicly and by whom?[/quote]
Right here (http://\"http://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,9988.msg145355.html#msg145355\").  I'm surprised you didn't see it.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on April 12, 2009, 01:55:42 AM
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'212828\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 01:50 AM\']The difference is most of the stuff on the news can be verified.[/quote]
Well, then I apologize for the major news organizations not covering The Price Is Right as closely as you might like.  Golden-Road's about the best source of info you're gonna find on it, and it's not really our fault if you choose not to believe us.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: pentellit on April 12, 2009, 01:56:49 AM
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'212829\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 10:52 PM\']
[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'212827\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 01:46 AM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'212824\' date=\'Apr 11 2009, 10:37 PM\'] -- it's already been stated publicly that Drew can and does fire people. [/quote]Hi, where was that stated publicly and by whom?[/quote]
Right here (http://\"http://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,9988.msg145355.html#msg145355\").  I'm surprised you didn't see it.
[/quote]
No, I mean where was it stated publicly in a valid news/news media forum with a named quoted source.  Please give a link to that.
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on April 12, 2009, 02:00:47 AM
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'212832\' date=\'Apr 12 2009, 01:58 AM\']Can you cite the specific confirmation message? I'm not gonna take the word of someone just making statements to make them.[/quote]
That is the confirmation message.  Nanny works at Fremantle and has a history of posting things like this before anyone else knows about them.

EDIT:  And, uh, deleting that post so you could replace it with some snark edited into the one farther up the page turned out to be kinda pointless, didn't it?
Title: Hey, Buddy, Where's Your Tie?
Post by: Matt Ottinger on April 12, 2009, 02:19:17 AM
Guys, I work for a school district.  Some of us are happy with our jobs.  Some of us are afraid we're going to get fired.  Some of us like our superintendent.  Some of us liked it better when our old superintendent was in charge.  Some of us can't believe what an idiot school board we have.  Some of us consider ourselves lucky that we have such a great school board looking out for us.  And some of us tell a lot of this to our friends and even to acquaintances we don't know that well.  And of course, when we DO tell an outsider, we tell our stories from our personal points of view, which may not match someone else's.

It's called a workplace.  I hear there are a lot of them out there.  Surely I can't be the only one to figure out that maybe SOME people at Price are fearful for their jobs and SOME people at price are happy because Drew makes the place so much fun and SOME people miss the way Barker used to run things and SOME people think it's never been better and SOME people think it's never been worse and some people are just happy to be getting a paycheck and leave the drama for Guiding Light. (Whoops, bad example...)

I'm sorry, but every single one of you needs to grow up a little.  And this is coming from a 48-year-old man-child who has nothing better to do at two in the morning than wade through this crap, so I know what I'm talking about.