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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: cmjb13 on July 03, 2008, 04:10:34 PM
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You'll hear about it soon enough. I just got the news. This is big...
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' post=\'189521\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 04:10 PM\']
You'll hear about it soon enough. I just got the news. This is big...
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Let's just hope it doesn't start with "Roger Dobkowitz" and end with "left Price is Right".
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If this news means that Syd Vinnedge ends up taking over the day-to-day producing duties of the show, we're doomed.
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' post=\'189521\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 03:10 PM\']
You'll hear about it soon enough. I just got the news. This is big...[/quote]Well, Roger is technically the only "producer", right? Everyone else is above or below him...
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I don't know if this is related or simply coincidental, but when I accessed Golden-Road.net (http://\"http://www.golden-road.net\") [after reading this thread], the front page simply said:
"We have reached the end of the Golden Road."
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[quote name=\'pianogeek\' post=\'189526\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 05:04 PM\']
I don't know if this is related or simply coincidental, but when I accessed Golden-Road.net (http://\"http://www.golden-road.net\") [after reading this thread], the front page simply said:
"We have reached the end of the Golden Road."
[/quote]The header says "Maintenance Mode", so I can only assume it's offline for a bit while they do some changes and tweaks... hopefully?
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I don't know what's going on here.
But I know what it pretty much has to be, and it ain't good.
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I don't much care for the "You'll hear soon enough stuff", nor do I much care for the cryptic messages like the offline message currently adorning Golden-Road.net; if someone knows something, then there's no sense beating around the bush with it - say it.
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i just got reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally nervous
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It's true...it's all true.
Two very reliable sources have made this true.
Everyone who loves this show needs to say a prayer for it's "taking a different direction" future.
EVERYONE
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[quote name=\'FPGWillyT\' post=\'189531\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 04:27 PM\']
It's true...it's all true.
Two very reliable sources have made this true.
Everyone who loves this show needs to say a prayer for it's "taking a different direction" future.
EVERYONE
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Somthing is obviously going on, because golden-road.net isn't accessible. Can someone just tell us what's going on?
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Man, I really shouldn't have made one last check of g-r before leaving work for the day. Now this is gonna bug me for hours before I can get home and check this out more thoroughly.
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Jesus. The last original member of the show is gone? Roger is at least half the reason why TPiR has lasted for 36 years.
The show's going in a different direction, all right. Straight down.
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Wonder why?
I guess we'll find out from an official source soon enough...
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I'm home crying right now. I just saw that man less than two weeks ago...
That's for all of you first graders who needed it spelled out in detail for you.
Man, you're home crying about a TV program that isn't even canceled and you want to call everybody else "first graders". That's bound to get this thread off to a good start.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'189542\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 04:44 PM\']
I'm home crying right now. I just saw that man less than two weeks ago...
That's for all of you first graders who needed it spelled out in detail for you.
Man, you're home crying about a TV program that isn't even canceled and you want to call everybody else "first graders". That's bound to get this thread off to a good start.
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QFT.
Still a shame in any case.
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'189546\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 05:49 PM\']
QFT.
Still a shame in any case.
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Agreed. I am very sorry to read that.
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Holy cow, Syd defeats the Dob by a final score of More to Less!
(as Marv Albert) YEESSS!
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I guess it's true that these days, competent employees aren't allowed to work on game shows.
Dumbest. Decision. Ever. And I mean that. I'll be happy to eat crow if I'm proven wrong.
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[quote name=\'FPGWillyT\' post=\'189531\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 05:27 PM\']
It's true...it's all true.
Two very reliable sources have made this true.
Everyone who loves this show needs to say a prayer for it's "taking a different direction" future.
EVERYONE
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And what are those sources?
Golden Road is down for the count it seems. The messages are contradicting though. It says "Maintenance Mode" but then it says "We have reached the end of the Golden Road."
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[quote name=\'JIANORAN\' post=\'189550\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 04:57 PM\']
Holy cow, Syd defeats the Dob by a final score of More to Less!
(as Marv Albert) YEESSS!
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No.
I really don't understand what the big deal is.
The show's still on. The show's still a hit.
Relax, guys. It's not as big a deal as certain people are making it out to be.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'189557\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 06:26 PM\']The show's still on. The show's still a hit.[/quote]
Really? It's getting beaten by The View.
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'189557\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 06:26 PM\']Relax, guys. It's not as big a deal as certain people are making it out to be.[/quote]
From what little I've heard so far, I wouldn't bank on that.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'189559\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 05:30 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'189557\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 06:26 PM\']The show's still on. The show's still a hit.[/quote]Really? It's getting beaten by The View.[/quote]
Doesn't mean anything. Has CBS given the slot back to its affiliates yet? Is the show still drawing viewers?
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'189557\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 06:26 PM\']Relax, guys. It's not as big a deal as certain people are making it out to be.
From what little I've heard so far, I wouldn't bank on that.
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Well, it really isn't a big deal. So The Price is Right is losing its producer. Big friggin' deal.
People aren't going to suddenly stop watching the show because of a new producer or a new way of doing things. Last I checked, Wheel's been on the air for 25 years in syndication, no? And is STILL the most popular syndie offering, no?
It doesn't make a difference. The people who are still watching are still going to watch.
If anything's going to kill the show, it's going to be Drew Carey. Most of us like him, but this is just a message board group. Who's to say that people weren't turned off by him who aren't us (not saying that he isn't immune to criticism)? Who's to say that he's going to keep the audience over time?
It's not going to be the producer who kills TPIR. It's going to be the presenter every time, IMO.
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Will someone please explain to me why Roger goes and Syd and Bart stay?
Roger has given so much to the show in his 36 years there. He will turn 63 later this month. How tacky to give him the boot now. They could easily have let him continue another two years and let him retire in dignity at age 65. Syd certainly doesn't have a track record of creativity in the field of game shows.
I can't help but wonder if Drew had anything to do with this development. Now Fremantle can take the show in the same direction as two of their previous successes: Match Game '98 and Card Sharks 2001.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'189561\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 03:40 PM\']
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'189559\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 05:30 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'189557\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 06:26 PM\']The show's still on. The show's still a hit.[/quote]Really? It's getting beaten by The View.[/quote]
Doesn't mean anything. Has CBS given the slot back to its affiliates yet? Is the show still drawing viewers?
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'189557\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 06:26 PM\']Relax, guys. It's not as big a deal as certain people are making it out to be.
From what little I've heard so far, I wouldn't bank on that.
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Well, it really isn't a big deal. So The Price is Right is losing its producer. Big friggin' deal.
People aren't going to suddenly stop watching the show because of a new producer or a new way of doing things. Last I checked, Wheel's been on the air for 25 years in syndication, no? And is STILL the most popular syndie offering, no?
It doesn't make a difference. The people who are still watching are still going to watch.
If anything's going to kill the show, it's going to be Drew Carey. Most of us like him, but this is just a message board group. Who's to say that people weren't turned off by him who aren't us (not saying that he isn't immune to criticism)? Who's to say that he's going to keep the audience over time?
It's not going to be the producer who kills TPIR. It's going to be the presenter every time, IMO.
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The point you're missing is the part about Fremantle taking the show in a "new direction".
I'm willing to bet the show still makes a tidy sum for Fremantle and CBS. Maybe not as much as when Barker was at the helm or as much as in the '70s and '80s, but it's still nothing to sneeze at. Based on my understanding of what they make/made, they could have saved a bundle when Barker left but instead agreed to a contract in which Drew is way, way overpaid, especially considering how lackluster his performances have been in the last year. IOW Barker was costing way too much, but they turned around and agreed to pay Drew way too much.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'189562\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 05:44 PM\']
I can't help but wonder if Drew had anything to do with this development. Now Fremantle can take the show in the same direction as two of their previous successes: Match Game '98 and Card Sharks 2001.
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Okay, I give up. You guys wanna be harbingers of doom, you go right ahead.
If I couldn't convince you that you're all overreacting before, I'm never going to.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'189562\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 06:44 PM\']I can't help but wonder if Drew had anything to do with this development. Now Fremantle can take the show in the same direction as two of their previous successes: Match Game '98 and Card Sharks 2001.[/quote]
I can think of no reason why Drew would be involved in Roger leaving the show.
And I still haven't seen any confirmation as to whether his departure was voluntary or mandatory.
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The point you're missing is the part about Fremantle taking the show in a "new direction".
That's what worries a lot of people, especially with the changes they wanted to make in the first place.
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I still haven't seen any confirmation that he's leaving in the first place...
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[quote name=\'CJBojangles\' post=\'189567\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 03:48 PM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'189562\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 06:44 PM\']I can't help but wonder if Drew had anything to do with this development. Now Fremantle can take the show in the same direction as two of their previous successes: Match Game '98 and Card Sharks 2001.[/quote]
I can think of no reason why Drew would be involved in Roger leaving the show.
And I still haven't seen any confirmation as to whether his departure was voluntary or mandatory.
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I saw Roger a month ago today and he gave no indication of leaving or wanting to leave or in any way being disillusioned with his job.
I don't know about his relationship with Drew so I can't even begin to speculate on their relationship.
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[quote name=\'CJBojangles\' post=\'189567\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 06:48 PM\']And I still haven't seen any confirmation as to whether his departure was voluntary or mandatory.[/quote]
Mandatory.
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It's a shame that Roger had to go in this fashion. But, I look at it this way... if there is a radical shift in the show, I can just simply ignore what it might become and remember the show for what it was. No emotional baggage attached.
Getting fired is the nature of the biz, folks. It happens in any corporate structure. You don't perform or you slip against competition, someone gets the heave-ho. You feel bad for the man who lost his job. I'm not saying I support Fremantle (actually, I don't, but that's another can of worms.)
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'189561\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 06:40 PM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'189559\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 05:30 PM\'][quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'189557\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 06:26 PM\']The show's still on. The show's still a hit.[/quote]Really? It's getting beaten by The View.[/quote]Doesn't mean anything. Has CBS given the slot back to its affiliates yet? Is the show still drawing viewers?[/quote]
A show getting beaten in its time slot by another show doesn't mean anything? Someone should tell the producers of the 100s of shows that have been cancelled for that very reason. Sure, it doesn't mean everything, but it does matter.
And wow, you swerved from "it's still a hit" to "it's drawing viewers" in a hurry. Infomercials for the Ronco Flimaflam that air at 4:30 AM on the Minnesota Curling cable channel draw viewers.
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There is no rationalizing this. The only silver lining is that the show is in the very capable hands of recently-promoted Kathy, Stan and Sue, but I don't look for any of them to be promoted to full producer.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'189522\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 04:15 PM\']
[quote name=\'cmjb13\' post=\'189521\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 04:10 PM\']
You'll hear about it soon enough. I just got the news. This is big...
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Let's just hope it doesn't start with "Roger Dobkowitz" and end with "left Price is Right".
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yes it does.. it was confirmed by reliable sources.
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Eddie!
Are we getting together next month?
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'189580\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 07:08 PM\']
There is no rationalizing this. The only silver lining is that the show is in the very capable hands of recently-promoted Kathy, Stan and Sue, but I don't look for any of them to be promoted to full producer.
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you really think any of them are safe if a new "outside" producer (hint less $$) is being brought in???
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Why should Roger go?
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'189583\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 07:13 PM\']
Eddie!
Are we getting together next month?
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yes though given events the venue may have to change..
i didn't realize my itinerary had been circulating round town hahahaha
but yes..
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[quote name=\'JIANORAN\' post=\'189550\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 05:57 PM\']
Holy cow, Syd defeats the Dob by a final score of More to Less!
(as Marv Albert) YEESSS!
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hmm hes only been waiting to do this oh since what 1995 when the company he had partial ownership in acquired the show... sigh...
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'189577\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 06:06 PM\']
And wow, you swerved from "it's still a hit" to "it's drawing viewers" in a hurry. Infomercials for the Ronco Flimaflam that air at 4:30 AM on the Minnesota Curling cable channel draw viewers.
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That's a straw man if ever there was one.
Temptation draws viewers too. Doesn't mean it's a hit.
I didn't "swerve" into anything. Note I haven't backtracked on my point.
I know, never let facts get in the way of your dislike of someone...
EDIT: Perhaps I omitted some words I should've said, like "a lot of" before viewers. But still, as far as I'm concerned the point is the same.
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Also the Golden Road FAQ is still functional, maybe Steve or somone can provide an update there?
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Oh boy. Another TPIR roller coaster ride...one year after the first one ended.
This sucks.
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[quote name=\'abba\' post=\'189592\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 07:33 PM\']Also the Golden Road FAQ is still functional, maybe Steve or somone can provide an update there?[/quote]
There's an update from Marc on the site. I think it sums things up pretty well.
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Mark Odor and PYLDude are the voices of reason in this thread.
<Allen Ludden>Think about it...</AL>
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As long as they don't replace Drew Carey with Joe Pasquale, I think I'm going to be just fine.
I like Drew Carey and think he's doing a great job on TPIR.
I really don't understand why some people here dislike him so much. Seriously, what did he do?
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He became the host, and apparently that's enough for some.
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[quote name=\'JRaygor\' post=\'189604\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 07:10 PM\']
I really don't understand why some people here dislike him so much. Seriously, what did he do?
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For most of those that do, I'm willing to bet the common answer is "he took over for Bob Barker."
(For the record, I'm not in that group. I think he's doing the best he can and doing pretty good so far.)
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I'm sure a lot of you are hoping Drew Carey won't be replacing Roger as producer; if that's the case somehow, things could really get interesting.
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[quote name=\'bandit_bobby\' post=\'189613\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 05:28 PM\']
I'm sure a lot of you are hoping Drew Carey won't be replacing Roger as producer[/quote]
I'm gonna go ahead and guess that nobody even remotely thought of that scenario, including Drew Carey.
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There has to be some middle ground between "The Sky is Falling" and "What Problem?"
Is this a cause for concern? Probably. How big of a problem is it really? Probably not all that much.
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[quote name=\'ewalker3\' post=\'189584\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 04:15 PM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'189580\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 07:08 PM\']
There is no rationalizing this. The only silver lining is that the show is in the very capable hands of recently-promoted Kathy, Stan and Sue, but I don't look for any of them to be promoted to full producer.
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you really think any of them are safe if a new "outside" producer (hint less $$) is being brought in???
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Then why would they have been promoted when Barker left? Somebody has to perform the grunt work of putting on the show, and they know that aspect of it. Personally I think it will be Syd, Kathy, Stan and Sue and that's all.
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[quote name=\'ewalker3\' post=\'189588\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 04:17 PM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'189583\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 07:13 PM\']
Eddie!
Are we getting together next month?
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yes though given events the venue may have to change..
i didn't realize my itinerary had been circulating round town hahahaha
but yes..
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Email me please.
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I am going to keep an open mind for this, but this is worrying to some of us. Particularly for these two reasons.
1. Fremantle's credo of "change for change's sake".
2. Never learning from their past mistakes (or taking a really long time to fix them, e.g. 7 years for the current Family Feud).
I can already image the thread comparing the new PIR producer to Harry "Never met a gimmick he didn't like" Friedman.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'189591\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 07:31 PM\']I know, never let facts get in the way of your dislike of someone...
EDIT: Perhaps I omitted some words I should've said, like "a lot of" before viewers. But still, as far as I'm concerned the point is the same.[/quote]
I had a response, but it's not worth it. Shouldn't have said anything in the first place. Carry on.
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I can't tell if this will put an end to the ridiculous "the dob" worshiping or if this will just further solemnify his status among the gods.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'189559\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 05:30 PM\'] It's getting beaten by The View.
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I had a feeling that "The View" is beating "The Price Is Right" among Women 18-49, but what about overall viewers?
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Now I know why I don't post to this site.
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[quote name=\'FPGWillyT\' post=\'189671\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 09:02 AM\']
Now I know why I don't post to this site.
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Because we don't take insults well? The confirmation of what happened was welcome, calling us "first-graders" wasn't.
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[quote name=\'FPGWillyT\' post=\'189671\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 09:02 AM\']
Now I know why I don't post to this site.
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"...And nothing of value was lost..."
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Yeah, it's clear the admins over at GR did not take the news well. To call it an overreaction would be an understatement. I'd advise anyone who is panicking over there (or here for that matter) to take a deep breath and just wait and see. There's no way to know that these changes will be for good or for ill. We just don't have enough information.
Now I can understand people being upset. People seemed to have a genuine affection for Roger and I think his sacking bites, but the show goes on. This fall, we find out if we get a Platinum, Silver or Brass road to replace the Golden one.
In one aspect, I think it's kind of exciting. I mean, TPiR making changes? That's a topic worth debate. If only there were a TPiR-centric message board in which to discuss the changes...
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ClockgameJohn posted this to the one topic at gr.net:
"Look for a video wall at the beginning of Season 37. Expect possible changes to the six pricing game format. Don't be surprised if the "Come on Down" format is changed."
The Video wall isn't that bad of an idea but where do you put it? Ditch the turntable? One of the big doors?
Less than 6 PGs? Could be due to time cuts from CBS rather than Fremantle.
CoD format? Shades of TNPiR94?
As I said in someone else's blog "It's gonna be a looooong 2 weeks of hand-wringing and wild speculation. That will be promptly followed by 2 months(?) of "This is gonna suuuuck!"" (Which applies to any fandom, not just this one.)
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[quote name=\'inturnaround\' post=\'189677\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 09:27 AM\']
Yeah, it's clear the admins over at GR did not take the news well. To call it an overreaction would be an understatement.[/quote]
Keep in mind that a good friend of Marc and John had just been fired (probably unfairly in their minds) after 36 years of loyalty and hard work with his now-previous employer. I'd say a minor over-reaction on Marc's part is understandable, especially in regards to a fan site he's maintaining for fans of said now-previous employer.
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Shades of TNPiR94?
You hit the nail right on the head. Look for daytime TPIR to take on the attributes of TPIR '94. Consider that by eliminating One Bid and an act they make a big dent in the prize budget. The video wall means they don't have to pay for huge RVs and the like to be delivered to TV City. They didn't have to fire Roger to achieve these things but doing so made a dent in Fremantle's above-the-line budget.
It is possible that Drew's high-seven-figure salary comes directly out of CBS' pocket. If so, it doesn't directly affect Fremantle's take.
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Doug's Price is Right was killed pretty quickly. Why would Fremantle want to emulate a version of the show that performed poorly?
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[quote name=\'Mr. Armadillo\' post=\'189683\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 12:02 PM\']Keep in mind that a good friend of Marc and John had just been fired (probably unfairly in their minds) after 36 years of loyalty and hard work with his now-previous employer. I'd say a minor over-reaction on Marc's part is understandable, especially in regards to a fan site he's maintaining for fans of said now-previous employer.[/quote]
I completely understand why Marc and John in particular - two guys who have a lot more than a passing relationship with Roger -- would be devastated by this news. Shutting down their board over it is, nevertheless, an overreaction at a time when their members needed that board the most. "Minor" overreactions are posts that people are making here and elsewhere about the news. Shutting down the board is a "major" overreaction, and as I said on G-R, a largely symbolic move that only hurts their fellow fans.
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[quote name=\'Frank15\' post=\'189685\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 11:26 AM\']Why would Fremantle want to emulate a version of the show that performed poorly?[/quote]Didn't the OJ Simpson trial, along with poor timeslots have something to do with it?
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I just don't see how anyone in their right minds can look at a format that's been successful for 36 years, look at one that failed after one season, and think somehow the latter was superior.
However, is it a budget issue, a timing issue, or both?
Many of us commented this season on how rushed the show has become. It's now painfully obvious that increased commercial time appears to be a major enemy of TPiR, and most of the classic formats, for that matter.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'189687\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 12:27 PM\'][quote name=\'Frank15\' post=\'189685\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 11:26 AM\']Why would Fremantle want to emulate a version of the show that performed poorly?[/quote]Didn't the OJ Simpson trial, along with poor timeslots have something to do with it?[/quote]
It's one of the reasons. Barker wouldn't allow the Davidson show to air before 3 PM, to prevent the syndie version to air against the daytime show.
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[quote name=\'Mr. Armadillo\' post=\'189683\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 12:02 PM\']
Keep in mind that a good friend of Marc and John had just been fired (probably unfairly in their minds) after 36 years of loyalty and hard work with his now-previous employer. I'd say a minor over-reaction on Marc's part is understandable, especially in regards to a fan site he's maintaining for fans of said now-previous employer.
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First, no one is an active fan of Fremantle. People are a fans of the show and, I would venture to guess, the talent on the show.
I think when you're at the head of a community (like a message board), you probably shouldn't be the first out of the chute yelling that the sky is falling. It's just not responsible. Besides, even if the future is crap (which there's no guarantee of), there's still much to be discussed about the past.
I don't begrudge them their disappointment or concern for their friend. But to yank almost the entire board and declare it the end? Well, that's overkill.
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After taking a day to think about things, it's not the end of the world. Not even close. Is it sad that a long time game show employee, whose roots are tied with one program, was fired? Yes. But it'll go on.
I'm kind of excited for some new changes. A video wall could work if used properly (ie Boden doesn't need the Clock Game prop too). Personally, I'd then ditch the big wheel, and have all (X) contestants participate in The Price was Right. I liked the idea of using more pricing skill than a random chance wheel. Probably not a popular idea, but YMMV.
Just remember...it's still going to be based on the pricing of merchandise, and there's still going to be wonderful awards for those smart shoppers. Just going to look and act a little different.
/fail pix winners go to MattO for bluebox $25K fail
//also to NJ137 for Donnymid
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[quote name=\'JayDLewis\' post=\'189681\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 11:50 AM\']
The Video wall isn't that bad of an idea but where do you put it? Ditch the turntable? One of the big doors?
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I saw the video wall being demonstrated during a visit last month. They tested it in door #2 and while big, didn't take up as much space as I thought it would.
The idea is also to shoot cars/vans on the lot and show the video footage on the wall.
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' post=\'189693\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 01:21 PM\']
[quote name=\'JayDLewis\' post=\'189681\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 11:50 AM\']
The Video wall isn't that bad of an idea but where do you put it? Ditch the turntable? One of the big doors?
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I saw the video wall being demonstrated during a visit last month. They tested it in door #2 and while big, didn't take up as much space as I thought it would.
The idea is also to shoot cars/vans on the lot and show the video footage on the wall.
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This would save money, wouldn't it?
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' post=\'189693\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 12:21 PM\']
I saw the video wall being demonstrated during a visit last month. They tested it in door #2 and while big, didn't take up as much space as I thought it would.
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So.. it was behind/framed by Door #2?
I'm sure having cars/RVs/etc delivered to the studio is a pain but doesn't that take away the excitement a bit?
Host: You've won a picture of a Mustang! Go on over to the video wall and check it out.
Oh...and this:
http://www.qwizx.com/shh/tpir_sb.jpg (http://\"http://www.qwizx.com/shh/tpir_sb.jpg\")
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You know, if it means more time for contestant interaction and casual fooling around, I wouldn't mind a reduction in pricing games.
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If anyone still has footage of the NBC 2003 ill-fated primetime revival of "Let's Make a Deal", fast forward to any "Big Deal of the Night" and you'll see how the prizes that were on video while behind the opened door were presented. At least you will have some sort of a general idea.
/They weren't using a video wall. But it looked like they added or enhanced it in post-production. (Chroma-key?)
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Surely this doesn't mean the removal of models?
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I doubt they'll get rid of the Showcase Showdown. It's a cheap way to fill airtime owing to the fact that there are no prizes involved and the cash bonuses aren't won every time. Also, it can be used to stretch if the show is under or played quickly if the show is over, but that assumes you have an emcee who has some concept of time.
OK, enough with the "Why You Fail" graphics.
Can we get some sort of policy on this? That's the freakin' reason this thread is 16 pages long.
OK, here is the policy: No more graphics in this thread.
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[quote name=\'JayDLewis\' post=\'189698\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 01:38 PM\']
I'm sure having cars/RVs/etc delivered to the studio is a pain but doesn't that take away the excitement a bit?
[/quote]
Well, the viewer at home is already watching a video of a car. What does it matter to me if I'm watching a video of a video? The audience in the studio screams pretty much on cue. The person who could win it is likely going crazy as soon as they heard "A NEW!".
Don't make no never mind to me.
As for what they'll show on it, I suspect it'll be beauty shot footage from the automaker of the car driving around in beautiful vistas.
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Jay D Lewis wrote:
Host: You've won a picture of a Mustang! Go on over to the video wall and check it out.
No worse than winning a flat with a bunch of stereotypical French/Italian/[insert nationality here] images as a representation of that trip to Europe.
And if it saves them enough money that they can install a trap door in the floor for contestants that go over a dollar in the Showcase Showdown, I wouldn't mind seeing that. :-)
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[quote name=\'Fedya\' post=\'189716\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 02:23 PM\']
And if it saves them enough money that they can install a trap door in the floor for contestants that go over a dollar bid $420[/quote]
Fixed that for you.
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WOF has used B-roll of Vanna showing cars in exterior locations to great effect for a long time. It could work for TPIR too if done right. For Lucky Seven they still need to drive the car onstage.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'189720\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 06:03 PM\']For Lucky Seven they still need to drive the car onstage.[/quote]
Or push a 52" plasma out on a wagon with a real long cord.
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Or change the reveal completely.
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Or play the game on the video wall instead of using physical sliding panels.
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In terms of time, just eliminating One Bids would save, what, a good four or five minutes per show? That would give Drew more time to interact with the contestants, which is one of his greatest strengths IMO. Plus you no longer have "contestants not appearing on stage" sitting and moping because all their excitement led them straight to some commemorative plates.
Regarding "fail" graphics, I find them interesting if they are A) well-done and B) used sparingly. Using them every single time someone says or does something that might merit one gets tedious in a hurry.
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[quote name=\'CX360\' post=\'189702\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 02:14 PM\']
Surely this doesn't mean the removal of models?
[/quote]
We can't put anything past them.
/And stop calling me Shirley.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'189724\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 07:52 PM\']
In terms of time, just eliminating One Bids would save, what, a good four or five minutes per show? That would give Drew more time to interact with the contestants, which is one of his greatest strengths IMO. Plus you no longer have "contestants not appearing on stage" sitting and moping because all their excitement led them straight to some commemorative plates.
[/quote]
That may seem alright, but then it begs the question of who will be picking the contestants. Because contestant's row can act as a barrier for some really obnoxious contestants making it onto the stage. Remember this guy (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUyk6DQWryk\")
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[quote name=\'rebelwrest\' post=\'189729\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 08:14 PM\']That may seem alright, but then it begs the question of who will be picking the contestants. Because contestant's row can act as a barrier for some really obnoxious contestants making it onto the stage. Remember this guy (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUyk6DQWryk\")[/quote]
Well, yes, but I'd call that an argument for doing a better job at picking contestants, not an argument (in and of itself) for keeping Contestant's Row.
(And it raises the question--begging the question is circular reasoning. Sorry, pet peeve.)
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'189724\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 04:52 PM\']
In terms of time, just eliminating One Bids would save, what, a good four or five minutes per show? That would give Drew more time to interact with the contestants, which is one of his greatest strengths IMO.[/quote]
Not to mention there would be six fewer prizes offered, and that's $$$. Plus, no more of contestants consulting the audience for 30 seconds before placing a bid.
I don't know if CBS can squeeze any more commercial inventory into the show. They're up to what, 7.5 minutes per half hour now? Back in the day it was 6 commercial minutes per half hour.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'189734\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 08:59 PM\']
Not to mention there would be six fewer prizes offered, and that's $$$. Plus, no more of contestants consulting the audience for 30 seconds before placing a bid.
I don't know if CBS can squeeze any more commercial inventory into the show. They're up to what, 7.5 minutes per half hour now? Back in the day it was 6 commercial minutes per half hour.
[/quote]
Taking in order...roughly averaging $8,000/show on bidder's row, that's $40k/wk, or $1.36 million over 170 shows. (Jeesh. That's a TON of guaranteed stuff out the door.) Not to mention $500 bonuses would be gone too.
I'm thinking commercial time is 8 min/half-hr. Might clock it with Monday's ep.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'189735\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 09:06 PM\']Taking in order...roughly averaging $8,000/show on bidder's row, that's $40k/wk, or $1.36 million over 170 shows. [/quote]
Over 190 shows (like this season), that's over $1.5 million, about 10% of what will be given away this year (extrapolating from GSNN's stats).
10% is not insignificant, and would probably be my first choice to cut if I wanted to save money.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'189734\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 08:59 PM\']
I don't know if CBS can squeeze any more commercial inventory into the show. They're up to what, 7.5 minutes per half hour now? Back in the day it was 6 commercial minutes per half hour.
[/quote]For what it's worth, the complete episodes available online through CBS.com regularly run anywhere from 38 to 39 minutes long.
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Mind you, prizes come from CBS, so this is CBS money being saved.
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So letting this news settle in for a day, I've been able to come to terms with it.
There are a few changes I could live with....
-A video wall.... even play a few games using it (eg Lucky Seven, Money Game) and displaying some prizes on there
-Australian showcase rules (one showcase, alternating bids until hit on the nose)
-Reduction to 5 PG (or even as far as 4) if it means more time to play instead of a constant hurry like it is now
Somethings I don't want to see....
-Elimination of SCSD
-Elimination of Contestant's Row (see TNPIR 94)
-All digitalized games
I see this move as more of an evolution and not a total reinvention of the wheel. Just like Bob said on day 1, "it's still your favorite game based on the pricing of merchandise".
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[quote name=\'MitchJoseph2004\' post=\'189752\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 11:27 PM\']
-Australian showcase rules (one showcase, alternating bids until hit on the nose)
[/quote]
You can live with this? I don't know if word of an overhaul in the Showcase rules has even been uttered, but to me, changing the Showcase rules seems too radical. To change SO much about a game that's remained basically the same for almost 40 years would mean alienating a large part of the audience.
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yeah, I can live with this, that's why I said it :-)
No, that change hasn't been uttered. But I've long preferred the 1 showcase, 2 bidders method. Seems more competitive and fun to me.
I know, probably I'm in the vast minority with what I would change about the show really.
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Why in the world would you want them to play Double Bullseye every day? Double Bullseye was boring as hell!
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[quote name=\'MitchJoseph2004\' post=\'189752\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 08:27 PM\']-Elimination of Contestant's Row (see TNPIR 94)[/quote]Of the things you listed, I have the least problem getting rid of this. The "strategy" was stale from the second month in. If it means we get more time for the good parts, that's fine. I also wouldn't be heartbroken to see the Big Wheel become a door stop, but the Wheel allows a degree of flexibility that isn't present in the other parts of the show.
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The Video wall I can live with- you could come up with some cool games using it probably. Everything else should stay.
Let's see what happens when the new season starts up and we get some taping reports...then we can panic more..
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'189684\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 11:09 AM\']
Shades of TNPiR94?
You hit the nail right on the head. Look for daytime TPIR to take on the attributes of TPIR '94.
[/quote]
This REALLY worries me. Is there a G-T format that is (supposedly) fool-proof that Pearson/Freemantle cannot find some way to royally screw up against all possible odds?
OK, OK, the fact is that we're panicking over rumour and innuendo, however reliable the sources of these might be. Having said that and bearing in mind Davidson's dud from '94, I'm not about to hold my breath over the success of a revamped daytime format that would emulate it. By the same token, I'm not going to judge it until I've seen it. I would implore that Freemantle bear in mind what the fans want when tinkering with 36 years of stable television. (No, I don't expect them to bring back Barker, and I do support Drew and the great job he's done, IMHO.)
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If it was really a cost cutting/budget issue, would it make any sense to just return the show to a half hour format? If it meant keeping the show in the "classic format" without changing it completely, I don't see it as that bad of an idea.
As far as the second half hour goes they could go ultra cheap and just show O'Hurley Feud (and even show a previous season's eps so not to interfere with the first run episodes of the syndicated run).
But, from a realistic standpoint, we'll just have to wait and see what happens.
I think a video wall would be cool too. It would also be cool if the "hypercloid?" panels on the turntable area could be embedded video walls, that just look normal when not in use.
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[quote name=\'bwood\' post=\'189771\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 11:29 PM\']
If it was really a cost cutting/budget issue, would it make any sense to just return the show to a half hour format?[/quote]
Since that half-hour would go back to the affiliates, and the network would go from making *some* money to making *no* money, no, that would not make one single bit of sense.
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[quote name=\'Mr. Armadillo\' post=\'189630\' date=\'Jul 3 2008, 09:44 PM\']We just got word that the driving force behind keeping one of the last great game shows from going into the crapper gets fired, and all you can do is discuss the merits of the latest 'FAIL' graphic?
[/quote]
Hi, I've been registered on your website for awhile but this is the first time I've posted. This is a super long thread and I haven't read every post yet, but I was just wondering if there are people here who think that Roger getting fired is a good thing?
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I don't like the sound of Double Bullseye in the Showcase. However, I have seen a suggestion I like in that each player write down their bid on the showcase. Or dial it in on a keypad on the podium.
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How about this:
Four or five games and have all contestants play one Showcase Showdown?
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There isn't one episode ot PIR that goes by where they can't edit out at least a minute of airtime..be it contestant stalling for a one bid, cutting time in games, or reading copy faster. Hell, make the intro to the show faster for all I care.
One minute per show at $8-10000 per ad, adds 80-100K per week, or 5 million per year to the coffers.
The answer : Hire an editor.
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IIRC there are some CBS affiliates whose after-Price newscasts are their highest rated due to the lead-in from TPIR (which I think helps explain why we never got same-day replays on GSN). I'd like to know if they are partly responsible for the upcoming changes, or if they are as concerned as we are about the new direction.
As for me, a video wall is fine (I'm surprised they waited this long); and eliminating CR is okay too (that went south when people went on "dollar bid overkill"). Lose the wheel, but don't change the showcase procedure. I think all will be fine.
I wish Roger nothing but the best. He deserved to go out better, but it ceased being "old school TPIR" when Rich stopped saying "This has been a Mark Goodson television production" IMO.
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I would vote strongly (were this a voting matter) for keeping the Showcase Showdown and the big wheel. I think it's a big draw for a lot of people--just notice how many contestants, after they lose their pricing game, say "I still get to spin the wheel!"
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[quote name=\'JRaygor\' post=\'189776\' date=\'Jul 5 2008, 06:58 AM\']How about this:
Four or five games and have all contestants play one Showcase Showdown?[/quote]And have the top two advance to the showcase -- with the top score HERE getting the bid/pass option?
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If we're looking at these moves as clear cost-cutting measures, doesn't that put the kibosh on the plans Drew mentioned (when he got the job) of taking the show on the road?
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The problem with having two people from the same SCSD play is dealing with ties for second. (For example, you might end up giving those two players an extra shot at $1,000 when the first-place spinner doesn't.)
Possible solution: The top winner after five pricing games gets an automatic pass to the showcase but also gets a free spin of the wheel.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'189780\' date=\'Jul 5 2008, 09:42 AM\']
I would vote strongly (were this a voting matter) for keeping the Showcase Showdown and the big wheel. I think it's a big draw for a lot of people--just notice how many contestants, after they lose their pricing game, say "I still get to spin the wheel!"[/quote]
To whatever degree I'm really concerned about all of this (which isn't nearly as much as most of you), I fear it's exactly this sort of thing that will be lost. One of my favorite things about this show is all the little, subtle, almost elegant ways that the structure of it holds up so well. And when you start messing with the structure, it can fall apart in ways you really hadn't considered. That's what I think is going to start happening here.
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I personally have been wanting to see digital scoreboards for a long time on this show.
If the potential new Showcase format means we'll have much nicer prizes offered, I'm in for it. If possible, I would like to see Austrailia's Showcase endgame where you have to put the prizes in order from least to most expensive come to America.
The "Come on Down" phrase MUST be kept in some way, shape, or form. We have to stick to tradition somewhere.
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[quote name=\'DoorNumberFour\' post=\'189754\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 11:37 PM\']
[quote name=\'MitchJoseph2004\' post=\'189752\' date=\'Jul 4 2008, 11:27 PM\']
-Australian showcase rules (one showcase, alternating bids until hit on the nose)
[/quote]
You can live with this? I don't know if word of an overhaul in the Showcase rules has even been uttered, but to me, changing the Showcase rules seems too radical. To change SO much about a game that's remained basically the same for almost 40 years would mean alienating a large part of the audience.
[/quote]
Actually, a full implementation of the Aussie Showcase would likely be a huge budget saver... at least on the episodes I've seen, how it works is that Double Bullseye (with a preset range) is played until we have a winner, and at that point the winner then must play an additional game where they rank the prizes in the showcase from cheapest to most expensive (with the two extremes already given to the contestant). They only win the actual showcase if they accomplish this successfully. Maybe this would turn off a portion of the audience, people who are used to seeing a BIG WINNER!! almost every day... they could possibly increase the value of the showcase to compensate, and the decrease in total winners would more than offset that additional cost.
I'd watch it. It'd make a great device for future Million Dollar Spectaculars (offer the cash prize to showcase winners only, no more of this "Million Dollar Pricing Game" nonsense).
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'189797\' date=\'Jul 5 2008, 11:37 AM\']
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'189780\' date=\'Jul 5 2008, 09:42 AM\']
I would vote strongly (were this a voting matter) for keeping the Showcase Showdown and the big wheel. I think it's a big draw for a lot of people--just notice how many contestants, after they lose their pricing game, say "I still get to spin the wheel!"[/quote]
To whatever degree I'm really concerned about all of this (which isn't nearly as much as most of you), I fear it's exactly this sort of thing that will be lost. One of my favorite things about this show is all the little, subtle, almost elegant ways that the structure of it holds up so well. And when you start messing with the structure, it can fall apart in ways you really hadn't considered. That's what I think is going to start happening here.
[/quote]
This pretty much echoes my sentiments. I don't understand all of the No Dob = End Of Show hyperbole, but maybe that's because the backstage doesn't interest me as much as what I see presented to me on the TV. But when I start hearing things like "Video Wall" and "No Contestant's Row," rumors though they may be at this point, that's where I start feeling a little bit of concern. There's nothing wrong, per se, with adding a video wall to the show. I do, however, take issue with using it to replace established elements. There have been discussions in the past ("Bingo America" is the most recent one which comes to mind) about how the use of a large screen can cheapen the feel of the proceedings, and even bring the game's legitimacy into question, to one degree or another. The Bingo America bonus round just doesn't feel right, because there isn't that tactile flip of, say, the Gambit or $OTC bonus boards. Waiting for the reveal on a 100-inch monitor isn't the same as hitting the big red button or pulling the lever. Good TV game shows aren't just about the games themselves; they're about flashing lights and smartly-designed, larger-than-life props. Oddly enough, as computer technology has advanced, the impact of such props, IMO, has increased. Any one of us can, with a quick download, re-create the set pieces of several game shows in our homes in rather stunning detail. But if Drew's up on stage telling a contestant, "Now, point your Wiimote at the screen and drag your chip to the top of our virtual Plinko board," then the vast majority of excitement and allure of the game has just been sucked away.
Taking away Contestant's Row and/or the Showcase Showdown would be huge mistakes. Changes in appearance and presentation are one thing; scrapping integral elements of the show which have been around over 30 years is a whole different story. That's removing parts of the show which have become ingrained in the pop culture lexicon: even someone who doesn't watch the show probably knows the $1 bid shtick and the Big Wheel. Get rid of that, and suddenly the whole "The show's just not what it used to be" argument gains legitimate traction.
For comparison's sake, I give you Wheel of Fortune, the other modern-day brightly-colored game show stalwart. There's been a lot of crazy crap added to that show over the years, both for better and for worse. And yet, the only significant, long-standing game play element that's been given the hook is shopping for prizes - which dragged the show's pace down to a crawl, and was really only a necessary evil to keep the show's budget down. Once all-cash in the front game was viable, the shopping got junked ASAP. Despite all the goofy tacked-on chrome, Wheel of Fortune is still spin wheel, guess letter, buy vowel, solve puzzle. Changing TPIR from its tried and true of bid on small prize, get up on stage to win larger prize, spin wheel for chance at even more prizes, opens things up to disaster way more than should ever be considered by anyone interested in keeping the show on-air.
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If I haven't already, let me point out that I too am not terribly invested in The Price Is Right. It's a pretty well-done show, and enjoyable to watch, but if they made an announcement on Monday that it was canceled, I would not be distraught.
I do wonder why I consider the Showcase Showdown to be a much more integral part of the game than Contestant's Row. I think maybe the latter just encapsulates all of the stuff about the show that I like the least: dumb contestants (being dumb over and over), delaying the game, more wild guesses than the average pricing game, and three losers at the end.
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[quote name=\'SteveR\' post=\'189795\' date=\'Jul 5 2008, 11:32 AM\']
If we're looking at these moves as clear cost-cutting measures, doesn't that put the kibosh on the plans Drew mentioned (when he got the job) of taking the show on the road?
[/quote]
Here's another, more basic question:
If cost-cutting moves are needed, then why do all these MDS shows this summer? It strikes me as a major paradox. Could someone who's an insider or more of an expert explain this?
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[quote name=\'DrJWJustice\' post=\'189811\' date=\'Jul 5 2008, 05:36 PM\']If cost-cutting moves are needed, then why do all these MDS shows this summer? It strikes me as a major paradox. Could someone who's an insider or more of an expert explain this?[/quote]
Every MDS aired since the start of May was a rerun.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'189797\' date=\'Jul 5 2008, 11:37 AM\']
One of my favorite things about this show is all the little, subtle, almost elegant ways that the structure of it holds up so well. And when you start messing with the structure, it can fall apart in ways you really hadn't considered. That's what I think is going to start happening here.
[/quote]
Me, too. If the problem is budget, there are ways to lower it without upsetting the apple cart--do a car game in only one half and the cash game in the other. Cheaper showcases. Cheaper IUFB's. Stop giving away millions on the specials.
If time is the problem, then do as the other Matt suggested--hire an editor!
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[quote name=\'DrJWJustice\' post=\'189811\' date=\'Jul 5 2008, 05:36 PM\']If cost-cutting moves are needed, then why do all these MDS shows this summer? It strikes me as a major paradox. Could someone who's an insider or more of an expert explain this?[/quote]
I'm hardly an insider or expert, but from what I understand, The Price is Right and The Price is Right Million Dollar Spectacular are two separate productions, with two separate budgets. How much is given away on the nighttime show has no impact on the budget of the daytime show.
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With Roger gone, who is the most senior staffer now?
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Most senior would be Kathy "Fingers" Greco. She is being elevated to Producer.
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[quote name=\'Sodboy13\' post=\'189804\' date=\'Jul 5 2008, 01:39 PM\']
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'189797\' date=\'Jul 5 2008, 11:37 AM\']
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'189780\' date=\'Jul 5 2008, 09:42 AM\']
I would vote strongly (were this a voting matter) for keeping the Showcase Showdown and the big wheel. I think it's a big draw for a lot of people--just notice how many contestants, after they lose their pricing game, say "I still get to spin the wheel!"[/quote]
To whatever degree I'm really concerned about all of this (which isn't nearly as much as most of you), I fear it's exactly this sort of thing that will be lost. One of my favorite things about this show is all the little, subtle, almost elegant ways that the structure of it holds up so well. And when you start messing with the structure, it can fall apart in ways you really hadn't considered. That's what I think is going to start happening here.
[/quote]
This pretty much echoes my sentiments. I don't understand all of the No Dob = End Of Show hyperbole, but maybe that's because the backstage doesn't interest me as much as what I see presented to me on the TV. But when I start hearing things like "Video Wall" and "No Contestant's Row," rumors though they may be at this point, that's where I start feeling a little bit of concern. [/quote]
The short answer is that Fremantle has wanted to monkey with the show to this extent for a few years now, but Roger was the driving force saying "No, that won't work, we'll keep it as is." When Fremantle goes to the extra effort to fire Roger, it looks pretty blatant that it was done just so they can make all the changes 'Market Research' think will raise ratings by X percent.
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Roger was the driving force saying "No, that won't work, we'll keep it as is."
I think Bob Barker had something to do with those decisions.
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On the golden-road thread (http://\"http://www.golden-road.net/index.php?topic=7666.msg107743#msg107743\"), here some more changes that are allegedly coming:
1. Only one showcase (which both contestants will bid on)
2. 4 pricing games per show instead of 6.
3. No more use of the phrase "Come on down". (!)
4. A new pricing game called "Gas Money" (which is actually good news)
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[quote name=\'Casey Buck\' post=\'189821\' date=\'Jul 5 2008, 08:19 PM\']
On the golden-road thread (http://\"http://www.golden-road.net/index.php?topic=7666.msg107743#msg107743\"), here some more changes that are allegedly coming:
[/quote]
It bears noting that these "alleged changes" came from some one who had never posted to gr.net before and got the info from a "reliable source" in a chat room. And as we all know, everyone in chat rooms are EXACTLY who they say they are.
Please...let's not spread unsubstantiated rumors.
/Why don't you have a seat over there...
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'189820\' date=\'Jul 5 2008, 08:51 PM\']
Roger was the driving force saying "No, that won't work, we'll keep it as is."
I think Bob Barker had something to do with those decisions.
[/quote]
One of the few times I will say "Bob Barker: It's a Good Thing."
Since Syd was EP, why didn't he overrule Roger and do it anyway?
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[quote name=\'Casey Buck\' post=\'189821\' date=\'Jul 5 2008, 06:19 PM\']
1. Only one showcase (which both contestants will bid on)[/quote]
One wonders, if this is true, if they are adopting the Australian format, or if they have indeed thought this cunning plan all the way through, since there are precisely two logical bids in the second chair in this case: one buck over the other guy, and $1.
If they're just turning the Showcase into a One-Bid, that could be the most anticlimactic finale since Dick & Danielle faced off on Big Brother.
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[quote name=\'JayDLewis\' post=\'189822\' date=\'Jul 5 2008, 09:23 PM\']It bears noting that these "alleged changes" came from some one who had never posted to gr.net before and got the info from a "reliable source" in a chat room. And as we all know, everyone in chat rooms are EXACTLY who they say they are.[/quote]
The most hilarious part is the people responding "you're right, it's just rumors, but OMG 4 pricing games never watching again!!!"
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Interesting link...any truth to this? (http://\"http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/Tvscums-Blog/American-Institution-Dead/800042711\")
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[quote name=\'JayDLewis\' post=\'189822\' date=\'Jul 5 2008, 08:23 PM\']
[quote name=\'Casey Buck\' post=\'189821\' date=\'Jul 5 2008, 08:19 PM\']
On the golden-road thread (http://\"http://www.golden-road.net/index.php?topic=7666.msg107743#msg107743\"), here some more changes that are allegedly coming:
[/quote]
It bears noting that these "alleged changes" came from some one who had never posted to gr.net before and got the info from a "reliable source" in a chat room. And as we all know, everyone in chat rooms are EXACTLY who they say they are.[/quote]
That 'reliable source' is the same guy who's gotten in trouble with Roger for 'helping too many contestants' over the last few months, to boot.
However...he does have some connections with people would would be in a position to know things...I'd be inclined to believe Voltron at this point, but we have no proof, so take all of this as you will.
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the write ups over at Buzzerblog really are great! If you haven't yet, be sure to check them out!
Way to sum it all up guys!
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[quote name=\'MitchJoseph2004\' post=\'189837\' date=\'Jul 5 2008, 11:48 PM\']the write ups over at Buzzerblog really are great! If you haven't yet, be sure to check them out!
Way to sum it all up guys![/quote]
I thought we were going to cut down on the Buzzerblog advertisements?
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That wasn't something I was aware of. Their write up caught my eye, so I posted my thoughts on it in an appropriate thread. Sorry if it was something I should not have done.
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I had to chuckle at this passage from the link that urbanpreppie05 posted:
This was to make room for her pet project, "Jackpot", which she considered the new breed of shows, hosted by "young studs."
Geoff Edwards was a young stud?
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I know this isn't "big news", but has anyone else noticed they've added a sponsor to Drew's closing remarks? (9Lives pet food I believe)
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'189842\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 01:13 AM\']
I had to chuckle at this passage from the link that urbanpreppie05 posted:
This was to make room for her pet project, "Jackpot", which she considered the new breed of shows, hosted by "young studs."
Geoff Edwards was a young stud?
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At the time, yes. The Lin Bolen ideal of emcee was youngish looking, more hair than you'd expect (think early Alex Trebek), maybe a mustache, and open shirts with leisure suits. Except for the mustache, Geoff Edwards fit the bill in 1974.
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[quote name=\'davemackey\' post=\'189853\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 03:24 AM\']
[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'189842\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 01:13 AM\']
I had to chuckle at this passage from the link that urbanpreppie05 posted:
This was to make room for her pet project, "Jackpot", which she considered the new breed of shows, hosted by "young studs."
Geoff Edwards was a young stud?
[/quote]
At the time, yes. The Lin Bolen ideal of emcee was youngish looking, more hair than you'd expect (think early Alex Trebek), maybe a mustache, and open shirts with leisure suits. Except for the mustache, Geoff Edwards fit the bill in 1974.[/quote]
Then she turned around and hired Allen Ludden. I can tell you how much of a stud he was.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'189855\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 07:26 AM\']
Then she turned around and hired Allen Ludden. I can tell you how much of a stud he was.
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Dear God, G-T had a casting couch? I feel so sorry for you.
--Mike
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'189858\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 06:24 AM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'189855\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 07:26 AM\']
Then she turned around and hired Allen Ludden. I can tell you how much of a stud he was.
[/quote]
Dear God, G-T had a casting couch? I feel so sorry for you.
[/quote]
Mike, I have a story I will tell you the next time I see you in person.
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'189842\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 01:13 AM\']
Geoff Edwards was a young stud?
[/quote]
Right you are!
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Okay, I can live with a single Showcase that both contestants bid on -- it shaves off a couple of minutes and it could lead to better showcases (creativity- & value-wise).
I can also live with a few less pricing games -- if it means that there will be more legitimate branded prize sponsors, instead of these "Your family will be getting their vitamins by enjoying canned corm" statements.
But the Big Wheel and the phrase "Come On Down" are as much an institution and an integral part of the show as the Daily Double and the "What Is" phrasing on J!. Take either of those 2 factors away, and it will be more than just the fanboiz that will be making noise.
TPiR is Fremantle's mothership: They cause this show to crash and burn because of changes, then all that will be left to "tinker" with will be American Idol -- And yet they be damned if they were to even think of touching that format!
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'189865\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 09:42 AM\']I can also live with a few less pricing games -- if it means that there will be more legitimate branded prize sponsors, instead of these "Your family will be getting their vitamins by enjoying canned corm" statements.[/quote]
What's the big deal with generic non-sponsored prize plugs, anyway? I don't see why reducing the number of games from 6 to 4 is better than the generic non-sponsored prize plugs at all.
If the show reduces the number of games from 6 to 4, it will have a ton of time they'll have to kill. Does anyone really want to see the show moving at Deal or No Deal's pace?
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[quote name=\'Frank15\' post=\'189881\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 12:11 PM\']
If the show reduces the number of games from 6 to 4, it will have a ton of time they'll have to kill. Does anyone really want to see the show moving at Deal or No Deal's pace?
[/quote]
For $1,000, and a chance at $2,000, are the Snack Cakes 99 cents?...Find out right after THIS, you're watching The Price is Right on CBS!
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I'm hoping for a return to the Cullen "Gosh, that area rug would look great in my den" format.
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' post=\'189882\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 12:28 PM\']
[quote name=\'Frank15\' post=\'189881\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 12:11 PM\']
If the show reduces the number of games from 6 to 4, it will have a ton of time they'll have to kill. Does anyone really want to see the show moving at Deal or No Deal's pace?
[/quote]
For $1,000, and a chance at $2,000, are the Snack Cakes 99 cents?...Find out right after THIS, you're watching The Price is Right on CBS!
[/quote]
What frightens me -- and after reading a few of these blogs, and they're all moving in the same direction -- is that this really could happen. TPiR has always prided itself on being the fastest-paced show in daytime. That pace kept it watchable, if not interesting.
Lemme ask something else: Why is CBS allowing this to happen? Do they have the means to putting the kibosh on this?
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Man this thread is like a roller coaster...
One page, it has me rofl-ing, the next page is so depressing it's like I need to watch a Lucinda Bassett commercial on "Attacking Anxiety and Depression." A bipolar game show fan would go SQUEEEE! and get a chubby going through this thread...
Anyhow, I'm very sorry to hear Dob is being let go, truly. When a person works for the same institution for that long, it's sad to hear that they're leaving on terms not by their own accord. I hope we see him in the production chair for another show very soon. He kept TPIR going strong through some tough times and ratings fluxes most producers couldn't have...
As for rumors, I won't believe anything until I see it in person. I mean, when a clip of "TNPIR 08" appears online, a commercial disclosing such events, or when I watch the season premiere in a couple months, then I'll believe the changes. If they are what the rumors are proposing, only then will I comment on what I see. I recommend others should do the same.
As for time limits, a proposition I've made before *and will likely be met with scorn*: have 5 pricing games, the one directly after the 1st SS being a 2 player game. Example? 2-player Bullseye from 197x.
This allows a number of possibilities. More pricing games can be developed (some could take the LMAD pricing game route or similar, which I think would be excellent), with some very novel and unique concepts resulting. If I've thought of a number of games that could work like this, there's no reason the TPIR crew couldn't.
This measure would also cut time by eliminating what it would take to do one full-pricing game, *do two IUFB's, then go to commercial, then bring the show back with intro-ing the prize then the game* which would be just enough time so Drew won't have a coronary from moving a mile a minute. The budget would be cheaper: only 1 prize given away instead of 2, potentially. Plus, this might allow it so that, depending on how it could be worked, at least one pricing game is won every show. OTOH, depending on how they wanna play it, they might get a pricing game with 2 winners, one a "moderate" winner, and one a "big" winner (also like LMAD), or a pricing game with 2 losers *cue a doubly-loud audience "AWWWWW"*. The same basic pacing of the show would still be very much the same...
I'm also interested to see what the CBS people and Moonves has to say on this. Others can provide more insight, but if CBS isn't happy with some of the stuff Fremantle is doing, can't they step in, themselves, and say "hell no?" It's airing on their network after all, and IF *only if* Fremantle wants the show to continue to air on CBS, they can't tick them off too badly. Don't bet either that if Fremantle tries to shop and sell the show to another network, if they disillusion CBS enough, that it'll get picked up just like that. About their only hope would be syndication...
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[quote name=\'Frank15\' post=\'189881\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 01:11 PM\']If the show reduces the number of games from 6 to 4, it will have a ton of time they'll have to kill. Does anyone really want to see the show moving at Deal or No Deal's pace?[/quote]Hey, it's better than what we have now, where Drew has to rush through a second half filled with dull one-prize games and yet another playing of Money Game. If there's anything that this show needed to get better, it's more time. More time for better, longer games. More time for interaction. When Barker said, "This is the fastest moving game show on television," he knew he wasn't true. Sure, it moved fast...until he met a contestant and had a long conversation about their unique name or whether he could guess their occupation or not. Everyone had a nice laugh, then back to action. That's why I find Adam Nedeff's posting of the "Salute to Roger Dobkowitz" Showcase so ironic. It's 3 1/2 minutes long. The show can't have any 3 1/2 minute long Showcases because of the time constraints making the format the staff clings to increasingly unsustainable.
As for changing the look, I say that it's been a long time coming. The show should have done a better job with updating the look of the props and set. I saw an MDS in HD, and it's just pathetic how old everything looks. Scratched. Worn. Faded. Deserving of the wrecking ball. I wouldn't be surprised if the staff's downright blinkered resistance to change led to the show's downfall in the near future, but I'd take no joy in it, because at the end of the day it doesn't really matter to me. Even if I find out tomorrow that this is all a hoax, and everything will go back to the same-ol' same-ol', I'll still watch. I don't watch game shows specifically for sets or music or models or announcers or contestants, or even hosts. I watch them for the same reason I started watching them when I was 7: because they make me happy. I get to watch an average person step up on a stage and have some fun and possibly change their lives. That's why even though I might stop watching DOND and Wheel for a while because I get tired of the gimmicks or Jeopardy and TPIR because they feel repetitive, I keep coming back to the genre. This is the only kind of programming that consistently puts a smile on my face. That's all I ask for.
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I rarely post here. I am a lurker. But I think a lot of the posts here are really jumping the gun. We don't know what the changes are going to be or how drastic they will be. I think people are over-reacting. I think we should wait before we panic. It's possible the changes are going to be minor. On the other hand, some of the posts here about the video wall, four pricing games, eliminating the big wheel, no contestants row, etc. may be correct. I'm going to wait for more information before I panic. I'm going to get flamed for this, but I always found the Big Wheel kind of boring. I always fast forward through it.
Justin
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[quote name=\'Justin Dyer\' post=\'189896\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 03:40 PM\']
I'm going to get flamed for this, but I always found the Big Wheel kind of boring. I always fast forward through it.
Justin
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And maybe that's part of the problem. Not so much one person FFwding, but many people channel surfing during "dull parts" of TPIR (i.e. the Big Wheel). The View is the only network competition, and it's done live AFAIK. What is stopping the line producer, for example, of deliberately putting "controversial moments" against, say, a dull TPIR game. So that something catches your eye while you surf during the dull part.
Before some of you dismiss this idea, (and to use a TV wrestling example) this is how Eric Bischoff competed with the WWE in the early days of the "Monday Night Wars". WWE was on tape against live WCW Nitro and Bischoff would, as they said, "book on the fly", changing sometimes entire episodes to counter whatever WWE had taped.
We knew TPIR might lose a little audience with a host change (some only want Barker, go figure!). If TPTB are changing everything for that reason, they are jumping the gun!
One last question (and I could start a new thread if needed): If the show had gone off the air when Barker retired, stayed off for say two years, and came back with Drew and any, or all of these changes; would we be as up in arms as we are right now?
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[quote name=\'Justin Dyer\' post=\'189896\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 02:40 PM\']
I rarely post here. I am a lurker. But I think a lot of the posts here are really jumping the gun. We don't know what the changes are going to be or how drastic they will be. I think people are over-reacting. I think we should wait before we panic. It's possible the changes are going to be minor. On the other hand, some of the posts here about the video wall, four pricing games, eliminating the big wheel, no contestants row, etc. may be correct. I'm going to wait for more information before I panic. I'm going to get flamed for this, but I always found the Big Wheel kind of boring. I always fast forward through it.
Justin
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Justin, you are correct that these are only rumors regarding the changes. As I posted earlier, we've hit the panic button over this, and we do need to calm down. A lot can happen in the next few weeks, and I reiterate that CBS ought to have some sort of power of veto here (no BB reference intended) if changes are indeed in the works. I am also playing the wait-and-see game, but there is a relatively consistent trend of information off this board on what might be happening. While those posts are rumor-based, their consistency has fueled the panic in here.
If these are untrue rumors, it would be good if CBS would come out as soon as possible to debunk them. If there is truth behind them, I do wish CBS would consult the fans over what is to come.
For what it's worth, if a massive format change is on the way, it wouldn't be the first time TPiR went through one. Anybody remember 1972?? It survived that one. Then again, Cullen's version didn't run 36 years, either, nor would there be a hiatus of several years between the original and Barker/Carey's version to possibly soften the blow.
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[quote name=\'joker316\' post=\'189902\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 03:29 PM\']
One last question (and I could start a new thread if needed): If the show had gone off the air when Barker retired, stayed off for say two years, and came back with Drew and any, or all of these changes; would we be as up in arms as we are right now?
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We were up in arms over the 90s/2000s revivals of Match Game, Card Sharks, Family Feud, To Tell The Truth, and I've Got a Secret.
I suggested in my last post that time could soften the blow, and it might. I hope we don't have cause to find out. However, a hiatus between series doesn't excuse screwing up a format into something unwatchable. I'd say Feud is still on because it moved back toward its roots, but look at the rest of them. TTTT wasn't too bad with O'Hurley in charge, but -- and this is strictly my own opinion -- the celebrity panel lacked the chemistry of the Colyer/Moore/Garagiola versions.
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[quote name=\'DrJWJustice\' post=\'189905\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 04:53 PM\']
[quote name=\'joker316\' post=\'189902\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 03:29 PM\']
One last question (and I could start a new thread if needed): If the show had gone off the air when Barker retired, stayed off for say two years, and came back with Drew and any, or all of these changes; would we be as up in arms as we are right now?
[/quote]
We were up in arms over the 90s/2000s revivals of Match Game, Card Sharks, Family Feud, To Tell The Truth, and I've Got a Secret.
I suggested in my last post that time could soften the blow, and it might. I hope we don't have cause to find out. However, a hiatus between series doesn't excuse screwing up a format into something unwatchable. I'd say Feud is still on because it moved back toward its roots, but look at the rest of them. TTTT wasn't too bad with O'Hurley in charge, but -- and this is strictly my own opinion -- the celebrity panel lacked the chemistry of the Colyer/Moore/Garagiola versions.
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In reading your reply, I was reminded of the fact that there was a seven year lull between the Cullen TPIR and Barker's version. And while time can soften the blow, there also were no VCRs, DVRs or GSN to see the originals long after they were cancelled. We have the ability to see the "real thing" practically anytime we want. Sort of like, if we don't like the "new" Match Game, we can still see the "old" Match game on GSN, DVD, etc. No, TPIR isn't on GSN, but we have the DVDs, our personal libraries, You Tube, etc. Please understand, I am as concerned about the changes as all of you are. I would like to know if the ready availability of "old school" TPIR may be tempering our feelings.
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[quote name=\'joker316\' post=\'189902\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 03:29 PM\']
Before some of you dismiss this idea, (and to use a TV wrestling example) this is how Eric Bischoff competed with the WWE in the early days of the "Monday Night Wars". WWE was on tape against live WCW Nitro and Bischoff would, as they said, "book on the fly", changing sometimes entire episodes to counter whatever WWE had taped.
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And remind me again, exactly when is the next WCW pay-per-view again? TV broadcast?
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' post=\'189915\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 05:38 PM\']
[quote name=\'joker316\' post=\'189902\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 03:29 PM\']
Before some of you dismiss this idea, (and to use a TV wrestling example) this is how Eric Bischoff competed with the WWE in the early days of the "Monday Night Wars". WWE was on tape against live WCW Nitro and Bischoff would, as they said, "book on the fly", changing sometimes entire episodes to counter whatever WWE had taped.
[/quote]
And remind me again, exactly when is the next WCW pay-per-view again? TV broadcast?
[/quote]
I just used it as an example. It was a good idea at the time. When WWE went live (among other things) the ratings turned in their favor.
My point is that many, if not most, of today's audiences have the attention span of a houseplant; and if they channel surf during commercials they're probably doing it during "dull parts" of TPIR.
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[quote name=\'wheelloon\' post=\'189890\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 03:19 PM\']Don't bet either that if Fremantle tries to shop and sell the show to another network, if they disillusion CBS enough, that it'll get picked up just like that. About their only hope would be syndication...
[/quote]
Though if that ever does happen, it will have to face tough competition, since TPIR would now be seen anytime during the day. The Kennedy and Davidson versions were crippled by the fact that they were limited to nighttime hours only, meaning that they had to compete against Wheel and Jeopardy, as well as Oprah (in the case of Davidson) -- as viewership in those shows were still quite strong, TPIR did not survive at night. This was the case here in Tampa Bay -- in 1985-1986, WTVT carried Price at 7:30PM, opposite Jeopardy on, at the time, WXFL (now, again, WFLA). And in 1994, WFLA showed Price at 4PM, opposite Oprah, which, at the time, was on WTVT (it's now on WFLA).
If Price does go into syndication, not only will it have to face the usual heavyweights, depending on where it's seen, it also has to compete with network soaps and Regis & Kelly, as well as other gamers such as the Feud. Price succeeded over the years, as its steady time slot and network carriage guaranteed them being at the top of the ratings. If they take the syndie route, it'll become a different game altogether -- in more ways than one.
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[quote name=\'joker316\' post=\'189913\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 04:32 PM\']
I would like to know if the ready availability of "old school" TPIR may be tempering our feelings.
[/quote]
I don't know about that, but it will keep the show we've come to know and love still available to us, if only in bits and pieces.
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[quote name=\'DrJWJustice\' post=\'189922\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 06:30 PM\']
[quote name=\'joker316\' post=\'189913\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 04:32 PM\']
I would like to know if the ready availability of "old school" TPIR may be tempering our feelings.
[/quote]
I don't know about that, but it will keep the show we've come to know and love still available to us, if only in bits and pieces.
[/quote]
And thank goodness for that!
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If Price does go into syndication, not only will it have to face the usual heavyweights, depending on where it's seen, it also has to compete with network soaps and Regis & Kelly, as well as other gamers such as the Feud. Price succeeded over the years, as its steady time slot and network carriage guaranteed them being at the top of the ratings. If they take the syndie route, it'll become a different game altogether -- in more ways than one.
I think this can be a success in syndication - if it eventually went that route. It's still a strong show and very well loved. It has succeeded in syndication before - granted it was a different time back then, but the Dennis James version lasted 8 years (the last 3 with Barker). Maybe part of the reason Kennedy's wasn't successful because people knew they could watch an hour of it every morning. Take it off the network and leave syndication as the only option and I think people will still find it. WWTBAM is seen during the daytime in several big cities, right? That seems to be doing quite well, after originally being a prime-time only show. Who knows...maybe some CBS affiliates will pick it up and slot it right at 11 AM!
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[quote name=\'rugrats1\' post=\'189920\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 05:21 PM\']
[quote name=\'wheelloon\' post=\'189890\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 03:19 PM\']Don't bet either that if Fremantle tries to shop and sell the show to another network, if they disillusion CBS enough, that it'll get picked up just like that. About their only hope would be syndication...
[/quote]
Though if that ever does happen, it will have to face tough competition, since TPIR would now be seen anytime during the day. The Kennedy and Davidson versions were crippled by the fact that they were limited to nighttime hours only, meaning that they had to compete against Wheel and Jeopardy, as well as Oprah (in the case of Davidson) -- as viewership in those shows were still quite strong, TPIR did not survive at night. This was the case here in Tampa Bay -- in 1985-1986, WTVT carried Price at 7:30PM, opposite Jeopardy on, at the time, WXFL (now, again, WFLA). And in 1994, WFLA showed Price at 4PM, opposite Oprah, which, at the time, was on WTVT (it's now on WFLA).
If Price does go into syndication, not only will it have to face the usual heavyweights, depending on where it's seen, it also has to compete with network soaps and Regis & Kelly, as well as other gamers such as the Feud. Price succeeded over the years, as its steady time slot and network carriage guaranteed them being at the top of the ratings. If they take the syndie route, it'll become a different game altogether -- in more ways than one.
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Maybe if TPIR switches to syndication please stay at WFLA as rugrats1 mentioned, while right here in San Francisco please air it on KGO (ABC 7) because they carried Tom Kennedy's Price is Right in 1985-1986 at 11:30am following ABC7 News at 11:00am, if this happens KGO will force Who Wants to be a Millionaire to 7:00pm following Wheel of Fortune (in which on Season 26 will give away $1,000,000 at 7:30pm), and put Jeopardy at 12:30pm
If not Keep TPIR at 11:30 am than WWTBAM at 12:30 pm, and J!/WOF at 7-8pm.
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[quote name=\'Mr. Armadillo\' post=\'189835\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 12:07 AM\']
[quote name=\'JayDLewis\' post=\'189822\' date=\'Jul 5 2008, 08:23 PM\']
[quote name=\'Casey Buck\' post=\'189821\' date=\'Jul 5 2008, 08:19 PM\']
On the golden-road thread (http://\"http://www.golden-road.net/index.php?topic=7666.msg107743#msg107743\"), here some more changes that are allegedly coming:
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It bears noting that these "alleged changes" came from some one who had never posted to gr.net before and got the info from a "reliable source" in a chat room. And as we all know, everyone in chat rooms are EXACTLY who they say they are.[/quote]
That 'reliable source' is the same guy who's gotten in trouble with Roger for 'helping too many contestants' over the last few months, to boot.
However...he does have some connections with people would would be in a position to know things...I'd be inclined to believe Voltron at this point, but we have no proof, so take all of this as you will.
[/quote]
These changes sans the videowall seem as likely as the famous "changes" someone spoke of on alt.tv.game-shows prior to season 28, where all 9 contestants would be called at once, but they would be called by their priority number instead of their name. Does it seem likely to you that the number of games will be reduced for more contestant interaction? Come on, how much more interaction does there need to be? Do we really need to hear the life story of every college student on spring break, every senior citizen who trecked across the country, or illiterate piece of trailer trash that wants to bid 420? No, doesn't seem likely to me. Do you really think they're going to stop using the phrase "come on down?" It's synonymous with the show title. Believe nothing until someone goes to a taping and reports such changes or wait for a press release.
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[quote name=\'Card Shark\' post=\'189944\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 10:18 PM\']These changes sans the videowall seem as likely as the famous "changes" someone spoke of on alt.tv.game-shows prior to season 28, where all 9 contestants would be called at once, but they would be called by their priority number instead of their name. Does it seem likely to you that the number of games will be reduced for more contestant interaction? Come on, how much more interaction does there need to be? Do we really need to hear the life story of every college student on spring break, every senior citizen who trecked across the country, or illiterate piece of trailer trash that wants to bid 420? No, doesn't seem likely to me. Do you really think they're going to stop using the phrase "come on down?" It's synonymous with the show title. Believe nothing until someone goes to a taping and reports such changes or wait for a press release.[/quote]
Adam, never underestimate the power of stupidity...especially when the person being stupid is Syd Vinnedge.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'189945\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 10:28 PM\']
[quote name=\'Card Shark\' post=\'189944\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 10:18 PM\']These changes sans the videowall seem as likely as the famous "changes" someone spoke of on alt.tv.game-shows prior to season 28, where all 9 contestants would be called at once, but they would be called by their priority number instead of their name. Does it seem likely to you that the number of games will be reduced for more contestant interaction? Come on, how much more interaction does there need to be? Do we really need to hear the life story of every college student on spring break, every senior citizen who trecked across the country, or illiterate piece of trailer trash that wants to bid 420? No, doesn't seem likely to me. Do you really think they're going to stop using the phrase "come on down?" It's synonymous with the show title. Believe nothing until someone goes to a taping and reports such changes or wait for a press release.[/quote]
Adam, never underestimate the power of stupidity...especially when the person being stupid is Syd Vinnedge.
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True, I have underestimated too many times...like in November 2000 and November 2004. And no, I don't care if I'm banned for that comment or spend x number of days/weeks in the isolation booth because heaven forbid I offended someone with that. Do what you must.
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First post here...
Anyway, FWIW, we have only two weeks to find out how "horrible" the show has become. I, for one, want to know what changes there are, if any. Two weeks is a relatively short time to make anything drastically different. Besides, they have just added an extra wall near the producers that resembles the turntable. Why would they do this with 10 shows if they are ultimately going to scrap that in place of a video wall? By the way, who will be attending the S37 premiere?
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Well, who's to say they won't change the contestant selection process to limit it to pre-tested people, like every other game show.
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First, they're not going to implement all of the changes you anticipate they will in two weeks.
Second, how do you suppose they would test, score and rank 300 audience members, and then match the test results with the interviews? It would sooooo complicate the selection process.
Everybody go find a hot tub and sit in it.
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Aren't contestants "pre-screened" anyway? That's Stan's job. It is not and never has been a random selection.
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[quote name=\'bandit_bobby\' post=\'189801\' date=\'Jul 5 2008, 01:38 PM\']
I personally have been wanting to see digital scoreboards for a long time on this show.
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No. Absolutely not. Call me a purist, but the one thing I love about TPiR is the fact that they are one of the only current game shows (daytime, primetime, or syndicated) that does not resort to some sort of television monitor for its scoring displays. It's one thing that helps keep the retro kitsch alive without being TOO kitschy.
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[quote name=\'Card Shark\' post=\'189944\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 10:18 PM\']
Do we really need to hear the life story of every college student on spring break, every senior citizen who trecked across the country, or illiterate piece of trailer trash that wants to bid 420?
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Fixed.
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[quote name=\'PIR85\' post=\'189969\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 07:19 AM\']
Aren't contestants "pre-screened" anyway? That's Stan's job. It is not and never has been a random selection.
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There's a monumental difference between the quickie interview process that Price uses vs. the casting agency-style of, say, Deal or No Deal.
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' post=\'189978\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 08:55 AM\']
[quote name=\'PIR85\' post=\'189969\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 07:19 AM\']
Aren't contestants "pre-screened" anyway? That's Stan's job. It is not and never has been a random selection.
[/quote]
There's a monumental difference between the quickie interview process that Price uses vs. the casting agency-style of, say, Deal or No Deal.
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Besides that, Deal uses how many contestants per week? Compare that to a potential 30 on Price. It is outlandish to think TPiR would do any Deal-esque contestant screening.
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[quote name=\'PIR85\' post=\'189969\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 07:19 AM\']
Aren't contestants "pre-screened" anyway? That's Stan's job. It is not and never has been a random selection.
[/quote]
The draw of The Price is Right is that anyone can show up at the studio (well, with a ticket) and win big prizes. You select your contestants more than an hour or so in advance and that's pretty much dead. And I really hope Fremantle knows better than to kill the main draw of the show.
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[quote name=\'PIR85\' post=\'189979\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 10:18 AM\']Besides that, Deal uses how many contestants per week? Compare that to a potential 30 on Price. It is outlandish to think TPiR would do any Deal-esque contestant screening.[/quote]
From everything I'm hearing, "outlandish" is really an irrelevant concept. A relevant concept is that modern game show producers like to control as many aspects of their shows as they can within (and I mean just barely within) the laws and regulations covering this stuff. With those brief in-line interviews, and for that matter, the whole Contestant Row bidding process, contestant selection is one of the things that has always been a TPIR wild card. I would not be at all surprised if, at the very least, they're planning on longer and more in-depth interviews with the people who show up. And casting people in advance? Wouldn't put it past them. At all.
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What I am wondering about is if they might be making slight changes to make the show more suitable for Drew's talents. Drew has done a fine job of making TPIR his own show, but I am wondering if Freemantle is just trying to slowly and gradually take away some of the "Barker" elements of TPIR (prize music, maybe remodeling the pricing games and the big wheel, redoing the set, and maybe even a new theme... but let's hope that doesn't happen. Of all the previous mentioned, I think the one element of TPIR that absolutely NOT be changed is the theme music.)
In any case, if Fingers is now the producer, that MIGHT be a good thing, someone that's had a long association with the show is still producing, so she may not make any drastic changes that would make TPIR unrecognizable and alienating so many fans.
I wouldn't be too surprised if the video wall is used for the new pricing games, but it should NOT replace any of the existing pricing games (a la Clock Game for Davidson's TPIR) It could also be used to announce Plinko (imagine a computer generated version of the classic Plinko sign)
They could also reintroduce elements of TPIR that have been lacking, like giving Rich more face time.
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[quote name=\'whewfan\' post=\'190021\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 02:21 PM\']
They could also reintroduce elements of TPIR that have been lacking, like giving Rich more face time.
[/quote]
Only if they use subtitles for the single-syllable words that he adds two additional syllables to.
/Like a NUU-EU CAW-HH-RRR!
//I keed.
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And casting people in advance? Wouldn't put it past them. At all.
Are you kidding? One of the biggest trademarks of TPIR is surprising people in the studio audience with the call of "Come on down!" and getting them pumped up to play the game. Every time I've seen the show in Las Vegas, where there is no screening and the contestants really are chosen at random, the number of dull contestants far outweighs the number of what we would consider good contestants. The Las Vegas show really is a testament to the skill of the people who pick the contestants in line outside studio 33. Not only do you want contestants who are lively and wear their emotions on their faces, you want contestants who have some idea of what to do if they win One Bid and not just stand there disoriented, or who won't bid four hundred ninety eight dollars and seventy five cents on an item. Yeah, Stan needs to get better at filtering out the "420" jokers, but there is still a night-and-day difference between the TV show and the Las Vegas show.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'189988\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 10:15 AM\']I would not be at all surprised if, at the very least, they're planning on longer and more in-depth interviews with the people who show up. And casting people in advance? Wouldn't put it past them. At all.[/quote]
I don't know about advanced casting, but I can definitely see the interview process being formalized...and of course videotaped for insertion in the show when the contestant's name is called. I can also see post-game/"backstage" interviews with winners and losers being taped and added before commercial breaks. Bottom line, I suspect the whole "as-live" style will be all but gone.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'190041\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 05:12 PM\']
And casting people in advance? Wouldn't put it past them. At all.
Are you kidding? One of the biggest trademarks of TPIR is surprising people in the studio audience with the call of "Come on down!" and getting them pumped up to play the game. Every time I've seen the show in Las Vegas, where there is no screening and the contestants really are chosen at random, the number of dull contestants far outweighs the number of what we would consider good contestants. [/quote]
You're preaching to the choir, and if anything I said made you believe they would go to a more random selection process, then I didn't make myself clear. I'm saying that it wouldn't surprise me at all for Fremantle to take much greater pains to make sure they get the type of contestants they want, up to and maybe even including advance tryouts. *I* know and *you* know and everybody here knows it's a ludicrous notion. But it's how every other game show gets its players. Can we be absolutely sure that Fremantle wouldn't consider it?
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'190047\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 05:24 PM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'190041\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 05:12 PM\']
And casting people in advance? Wouldn't put it past them. At all.
Are you kidding? One of the biggest trademarks of TPIR is surprising people in the studio audience with the call of "Come on down!" and getting them pumped up to play the game. Every time I've seen the show in Las Vegas, where there is no screening and the contestants really are chosen at random, the number of dull contestants far outweighs the number of what we would consider good contestants. [/quote]
You're preaching to the choir, and if anything I said made you believe they would go to a more random selection process, then I didn't make myself clear. I'm saying that it wouldn't surprise me at all for Fremantle to take much greater pains to make sure they get the type of contestants they want, up to and maybe even including advance tryouts. *I* know and *you* know and everybody here knows it's a ludicrous notion. But it's how every other game show gets its players. Can we be absolutely sure that Fremantle wouldn't consider it?
[/quote]
If Fremantle goes the "casting route", and does it the same way they cast players on the last two MDPs, then God help us all!!
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I'm saying that it wouldn't surprise me at all for Fremantle to take much greater pains to make sure they get the type of contestants they want, up to and maybe even including advance tryouts. *I* know and *you* know and everybody here knows it's a ludicrous notion. But it's how every other game show gets its players. Can we be absolutely sure that Fremantle wouldn't consider it?
They may be dumb but they're not stupid. If they cast TPIR the same way as other game shows, you might as well start the show with four contestants on stage seated behind a desk. Heck, they've already got an emcee who looks like a rotund Bill Cullen.
All facetiousness aside, if they did away with the surprise contestant selection (and CBS allowed it) they'd basically be throwing out the baby with the bath water. It's such an integral part of the show that it would require a major lapse of sanity and judgement to the point where I really, really doubt they would do it. It would not surprise me in the least if they considered contestant selection one part of the show that ain't broke, so don't fix it.
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A couple of points here:
TPIR is going HD in the fall. I think we all know it. The MDS were definately tests of the HD waters.
TPIR as we knew it ended when Bob retired.
Drew's era was going to bring on change. Everyone, including us and CBS knew it!
Drew has come along way in a year.
Nothing lasts forever. Nothing.
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[quote name=\'Terry K\' post=\'190099\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 08:27 PM\']
A couple of points here:
TPIR is going HD in the fall. I think we all know it. The MDS were definately tests of the HD waters.
TPIR as we knew it ended when Bob retired.
Drew's era was going to bring on change. Everyone, including us and CBS knew it!
Drew has come along way in a year.
Nothing lasts forever. Nothing.
[/quote]
Thanks for adding rumor and opinion. In other words, nothing.
/Xanadu is forever. So there.
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[quote name=\'Terry K\' post=\'190099\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 07:27 PM\']TPIR as we knew it ended when Bob retired. [/quote]So, what do you call the episodes we saw this year with contestants, pricing games, and the showcases?
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'190101\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 05:38 PM\']
Thanks for adding rumor and opinion. In other words, nothing.[/quote]
Where's the rumor? Hasn't it been positively confirmed that the show will be HD in the fall? I thought it had.
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[quote name=\'Terry K\' post=\'190099\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 07:27 PM\']
TPIR is going HD in the fall.
[/quote]
Duh.
And all of television goes digital by February. Have you seen all those ads advising people with analog sets to get digital converter boxes?
Back to our rumour-ridden thread ....
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'190103\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 08:53 PM\']
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'190101\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 05:38 PM\']
Thanks for adding rumor and opinion. In other words, nothing.[/quote]
Where's the rumor? Hasn't it been positively confirmed that the show will be HD in the fall? I thought it had.
[/quote]
I hadn't heard official confirmation. Hell, even the poster wrote "I think we all know it"...
Panel?
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Yes, Price is going HD in the fall. Oddly enough, it's been taping in HD since last Wednesday's show, but is still airing in SD (intentionally, I guess).
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'190113\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 09:33 PM\']
Yes, Price is going HD in the fall. Oddly enough, it's been taping in HD since last Wednesday's show, but is still airing in SD (intentionally, I guess).
[/quote]
Has anyone come up with a concrete reason for doing this, other than to further distinguish Seasons 36 & 37?.. They certainly didn't wait for a new season to implement many of the recent changes. I don't see the point in shooting in HD only to turn around and show it in SD.
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[quote name=\'CJBojangles\' post=\'190120\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 09:53 PM\']
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'190113\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 09:33 PM\']
Yes, Price is going HD in the fall. Oddly enough, it's been taping in HD since last Wednesday's show, but is still airing in SD (intentionally, I guess).
[/quote]
Has anyone come up with a concrete reason for doing this, other than to further distinguish Seasons 36 & 37?.. They certainly didn't wait for a new season to implement many of the recent changes. I don't see the point in shooting in HD only to turn around and show it in SD.
[/quote]
I would guess they would show those in repeats in HD eventually. As others have speculated, the changes may not all occur at the same time.
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[quote name=\'CJBojangles\' post=\'190120\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 09:53 PM\']
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'190113\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 09:33 PM\']
Yes, Price is going HD in the fall. Oddly enough, it's been taping in HD since last Wednesday's show, but is still airing in SD (intentionally, I guess).
[/quote]
Has anyone come up with a concrete reason for doing this, other than to further distinguish Seasons 36 & 37?.. They certainly didn't wait for a new season to implement many of the recent changes. I don't see the point in shooting in HD only to turn around and show it in SD.
[/quote]
Simple: "Practice."
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'190102\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 07:50 PM\']
[quote name=\'Terry K\' post=\'190099\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 07:27 PM\']TPIR as we knew it ended when Bob retired. [/quote]So, what do you call the episodes we saw this year with contestants, pricing games, and the showcases?
[/quote]
My point was the tone of the show and the direction changed the minute Bob stepped off the stage for the last time.
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[quote name=\'Terry K\' post=\'190141\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 10:40 PM\']
[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'190102\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 07:50 PM\']
[quote name=\'Terry K\' post=\'190099\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 07:27 PM\']TPIR as we knew it ended when Bob retired. [/quote]So, what do you call the episodes we saw this year with contestants, pricing games, and the showcases?
[/quote]
My point was the tone of the show and the direction changed the minute Bob stepped off the stage for the last time.[/quote]Ah yes. To a show that became fun again, had a friendly host, and was stripped of some of its politics (such as not offering foreign cars). Why is that a bad thing?
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[quote name=\'DrJWJustice\' post=\'190110\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 08:26 PM\']
[quote name=\'Terry K\' post=\'190099\' date=\'Jul 7 2008, 07:27 PM\']
TPIR is going HD in the fall.
[/quote]
Duh.
And all of television goes digital by February. Have you seen all those ads advising people with analog sets to get digital converter boxes?
Back to our rumour-ridden thread ....
[/quote]
Digital television in 2009 has NOTHING to do with high definition. First of all, digital TV is simply a way of receiving input, as opposed to analog broadcast. Cable companies already provide this, so if you are getting cable, do not fall into that myth and go get a new flat screen HDTV, because it ain't necessary.
Furthermore, not all shows will be taping in HD come 2009. Again, it doesn't matter, because HD is not a necessary requirement for digital TV.
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I'm getting a Strange Magic from this thread.
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Apologies for interrupting this journey into melody by drifting back on-topic, but when is the first taping date of the 37th season? And is it known when the new season of shows is slated to begin airing? Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'190189\' date=\'Jul 8 2008, 07:27 AM\']
Apologies for interrupting this journey into melody by drifting back on-topic, but when is the first taping date of the 37th season? And is it known when the new season of shows is slated to begin airing? Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere.[/quote]
Next TPIR tapings: July 20 - 22. Yes, they will be taping on a Sunday.
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Variety picked it up for a brief article (http://\"http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117988591.html?categoryid=14&cs=1&query=price+is+right\")
Very little Variety-ese in there.
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How refreshing to read an account of Roger's departure written by someone who isn't on the verge of a nervous breakdown.
In other news, Mark Burnett is being sued for $70 million.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'190234\' date=\'Jul 8 2008, 01:38 PM\']
Variety picked it up for a brief article (http://\"http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117988591.html?categoryid=14&cs=1&query=price+is+right\")
Very little Variety-ese in there.
[/quote]
Excuse me for being cynical, but that looked like a traditional "we-fired-him-and-now-we're-saving-face" press release.
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[quote name=\'DrJWJustice\' post=\'190236\' date=\'Jul 8 2008, 02:54 PM\']
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'190234\' date=\'Jul 8 2008, 01:38 PM\']
Variety picked it up for a brief article (http://\"http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117988591.html?categoryid=14&cs=1&query=price+is+right\")
Very little Variety-ese in there.[/quote]
Excuse me for being cynical, but that looked like a traditional "we-fired-him-and-now-we're-saving-face" press release.[/quote]
Well what were they supposed to say, "Thank God that old fart is gone. Now we can tear down the show and rebuild it in our own image. Mwahahahaha."?
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'190238\' date=\'Jul 8 2008, 02:08 PM\']
[quote name=\'DrJWJustice\' post=\'190236\' date=\'Jul 8 2008, 02:54 PM\']
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'190234\' date=\'Jul 8 2008, 01:38 PM\']
Variety picked it up for a brief article (http://\"http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117988591.html?categoryid=14&cs=1&query=price+is+right\")
Very little Variety-ese in there.[/quote]
Excuse me for being cynical, but that looked like a traditional "we-fired-him-and-now-we're-saving-face" press release.[/quote]
Well what were they supposed to say, "Thank God that old fart is gone. Now we can tear down the show and rebuild it in our own image. Mwahahahaha."?
[/quote]
Reading between the lines, that's exactly what they said. Only I'm not laughing.
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Gawd, I remember seeing the trailer for Xanadu and the audience pretty much laughed through the whole thing.
As for TPIR...I'm going to be Mr. Blue Sky here. By now, we'd have heard of ultra-radical moves - not that firing Dobkowitz isn't one, but I mean what's seen on screen, which is what's going to bring an audience in the end. So I don't see Drew coming out on a slick black floor to point at prizes on a 575-foot jumbotron. Yet. But I just see tweaks. We've seen Fremangle tear apart remakes, but TPIR won't be a remake immediately. They have to keep some connections with the old.
And frankly, there are some parts of the set and games that could use some fixing up. But if they're smart*, I think they can make changes without making the audience Turn to Stone.
*yeah, I know they aren't. But there's a chance.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'190245\' date=\'Jul 8 2008, 03:01 PM\']
[quote name=\'DrBear\' post=\'190243\' date=\'Jul 8 2008, 03:56 PM\']
Gawd, I remember seeing the trailer for Xanadu and the audience pretty much laughed through the whole thing.
[/quote]
Exactly. If you're laughing, you're enjoying yourself. Precisely the spirit behind the "please laugh at us" Broadway version that completely flew over the heads of several serious New York critics. I'm not saying the original movie people were that meta-clever -- the film is really, really bad, and anyone who says otherwise is lying -- I'm just saying it's fun to watch.
[/quote]
Suddenly, I don't need the answers. I'm ready to take all my chances with Drew.
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[quote name=\'entguy1\' post=\'190249\' date=\'Jul 8 2008, 04:28 PM\']
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'190245\' date=\'Jul 8 2008, 03:01 PM\']
[quote name=\'DrBear\' post=\'190243\' date=\'Jul 8 2008, 03:56 PM\']
Gawd, I remember seeing the trailer for Xanadu and the audience pretty much laughed through the whole thing.
[/quote]
Exactly. If you're laughing, you're enjoying yourself. Precisely the spirit behind the "please laugh at us" Broadway version that completely flew over the heads of several serious New York critics. I'm not saying the original movie people were that meta-clever -- the film is really, really bad, and anyone who says otherwise is lying -- I'm just saying it's fun to watch.
[/quote]
Suddenly, I don't need the answers. I'm ready to take all my chances with Drew.
[/quote]
...but will the wheels still be in motion?
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'190251\' date=\'Jul 8 2008, 04:42 PM\']
...but will the wheels still be in motion?
[/quote]
And will it still be $1,000 for $1.00 in one spin or a combination of two spins, and $10,000 for another $1.00?
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' post=\'190253\' date=\'Jul 8 2008, 04:52 PM\']
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'190251\' date=\'Jul 8 2008, 04:42 PM\']
...but will the wheels still be in motion?
[/quote]
And will it still be $1,000 for $1.00 in one spin or a combination of two spins, and $10,000 for another $1.00?
[/quote]
No, Fremantle's plan is to make it both a spin of a wheel and a game of definitions. There will be one question, only one strike, the answer will likely be sexual, and whoever gets the most correct from a bunch of video clips will win one million dollars. (insert rambunctious hooting and hollering)
/Since Roger's gone, they'll do whatever the hell they want
//Yes, I know, definitions wasn't Fremantle's fault
///Don't sit here thinking about it, just keep reading on.
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[quote name=\'Gerald78\' post=\'190207\' date=\'Jul 8 2008, 11:24 AM\']
BTW, for those interested I just notice that the Golden Road site is back up after after a brief "mourning period"
[/quote]
They claim they were down for "site upgrades." Funny, I didn't notice any difference.
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[quote name=\'TheLastResort\' post=\'190256\' date=\'Jul 8 2008, 04:31 PM\']
They claim they were down for "site upgrades." Funny, I didn't notice any difference.
[/quote]
Not to be an apologist, but generally upgrades are behind-the-scenes stuff. (Not always)
You'd never notice if I upgraded my site from Wordpress 2.2 to 2.5 but the stuff I see as admin...MAJOR changes. Might be software tweaks and whatnot.
Also, FWIW, they didn't say they were down for upgrades but that they used the opportunity to do upgrades.
/Still not kosher
//Slashies disapprove
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[quote name=\'JayDLewis\' post=\'190258\' date=\'Jul 8 2008, 04:52 PM\']Not to be an apologist, but generally upgrades are behind-the-scenes stuff. (Not always)[/quote]
I get what you're saying, but generally upgrades are announced in advance if it's going to mean down time. Of course, we're not exactly dealing with professionals here...
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[quote name=\'NewJersey137\' post=\'190255\' date=\'Jul 8 2008, 05:24 PM\']
No, Fremantle's plan is to make it both a spin of a wheel and a game of definitions. There will be one question, only one strike, the answer will likely be sexual...
[/quote]
...and will almost always be an answer that you can't say on TV.
[quote name=\'TheLastResort\' post=\'190268\' date=\'Jul 8 2008, 06:46 PM\']
I get what you're saying, but generally upgrades are announced in advance if it's going to mean down time. Of course, we're not exactly dealing with professionals here...
[/quote]
Personally, the unannounced "upgrade" came at a time when Dob was fired, which would ring bells on the suspicion meter.
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I'm gonna try to get this back on topic----
With the other changes we fear Fremantle is going to pull, I hope Fingers can be a Sweet Talkin' Woman and urge them to leave the rest of the show alone.
/yeah, I know....laaaaame
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Yeah, as long as they don't mess with the Showcase "Showdown."
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Maybe she can Shine A Little Love on the show.......as opposed to that other one that just gives away Lotsa Love.
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Come on, y'all. We have to let evolution take its course.
TPIR: "It's a livin' thing."
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[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'190358\' date=\'Jul 9 2008, 09:28 AM\']
TPIR: "It's a livin' thing."
[/quote]
...a terrible thing to lose, still.
Getting to the Point...I'm not gonna let Every Little Thing I've heard rumors about bug me until I see them on Video! But if they screw too much up, it'll be time to ship the Fremantle bigwigs away on the Last Train to London.
/Do Ya see what I did there
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'190367\' date=\'Jul 9 2008, 10:22 AM\']
The creativity of this thread has just about reached its twilight.
[/quote]
And yet, I can see it going on for many more pages and weeks.
I wonder. If Jonathan Goodson had held onto the company, in what shape would it be in as opposed to now under Fremantle's regime?
By the way, The Everlasting Dobstopper sig one of you has is quite the clever.
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'190367\' date=\'Jul 9 2008, 10:22 AM\']
The creativity of this thread has just about reached its twilight.
/At least none of us used "Telephone Line" somewhere--as tempting as it might have been.
[/quote]
You don't want TPIR to bring back the "Phone Home Game"?
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[quote name=\'Fedya\' post=\'190371\' date=\'Jul 9 2008, 09:36 AM\']
You don't want TPIR to bring back the "Phone Home Game"?
[/quote]
Not what I was driving at. But good try.
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Just as many were "up in arms" last year about Drew taking over the show, I'm taking a "wait & see" attitude.
I watched the very first show back on Labor Day 1972, 2 days before I started Kindergarten.
I'm 41 now, and I guess I'm in what is known as "middle age" syndrome. Game shows once had a very big allure for me. Now, not so much I guess. I do care about the show, but I do not live and die with it any longer as I did in my younger years. Likewise with sports and sports teams.
I will be curious to see what changes the show makes, but I must confess I am not very confident about the future of this program, or game shows as a whole any longer. Jeopardy has added bells & whistles a bit, but overall I seldom watch the program. Wheel of Fortune I used to watch more in the 80s & 90s, but I'll watch the first day or week's worth of programs to see what changes they made.
I even hosted online games briefly, for about a year, and it was ok, but very slow moving. I'd prefer to host my own live action game. I guess because I work during the daytime now, and am not home much anymore during the day, I don't miss game shows. I do miss those times though when game shows were on often in the 80s and 90s. I've become somewhat nostalgic over the 70s, 80s, and even the 90s somewhat now. But life goes on and I feel badly for Roger more than all of us. Knowing Roger, he feels badly for us, the fans. Let's see where this goes. Good or bad, we game show fans are in this together.
Regards,
Bill
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'190367\' date=\'Jul 9 2008, 10:22 AM\']
The creativity of this thread has just about reached its twilight.[/quote]
I only meant to stay a while.
/okay, now I'll stop
You know, for all the changes there may or may not be, it would be funny if Fremantle actually got people to understand the difference between the Showcase and the Showcase Showdown
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'190380\' date=\'Jul 9 2008, 12:03 PM\']
[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'190367\' date=\'Jul 9 2008, 10:22 AM\']
The creativity of this thread has just about reached its twilight.[/quote]
I only meant to stay a while.
/okay, now I'll stop
You know, for all the changes there may or may not be, it would be funny if Fremantle actually got people to understand the difference between the Showcase and the Showcase Showdown
[/quote]
Oh, do you think that would reduce the "Confusion" ???
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'190380\' date=\'Jul 9 2008, 11:03 AM\']
[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'190367\' date=\'Jul 9 2008, 10:22 AM\']
The creativity of this thread has just about reached its twilight.[/quote]
I only meant to stay a while.
/okay, now I'll stop
You know, for all the changes there may or may not be, it would be funny if Fremantle actually got people to understand the difference between the Showcase and the Showcase Showdown
[/quote]
The only way they could accomplish that would be to eliminate the Showcase Showdown completely. Which I wouldn't put past them.
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Back on topic...
I stumbled across a thread on one of the other boards.
The poster seemed all giddy that the pricing games on one particular day spelled out "THE DOB" based on the first letter of each game.
Give me a break.